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>Fast vertical movement
>No regenerating health
>No cinematic QTE cutscene filler
>FoV and other PC settings
>Unlinear maps with many secrets to explore
>Endless fun with snapmap
Why does /v/ hate this game?
>>337472446
Because Denuvo
>slow
>series of samey arenas interconnected by hallways
>weapons aren't powerful
>enemies blend with the environment
>upgrade tree
>finishing moves
>finishing moves that make you invulnerable while they're playing out
>cliffhanger ending
>>337472446
>secrets
That's pushing it.
It's just vents in plain sight.
No moving wall or anything.
>FoV and other PC settings
Top fucking kek you console faggot. If this WASN'T there it would be an outrage. It isn't a good thing that it has an FoV slider it should be accepted.
>>337472626
>it just came out
Its fucking shit
>story is literally more intrusive than half life 2s story.
Im not even kidding theres 5 minute sections where you sit and listen to your robot guide narrate the horrendous fucking story
>glory kills are required to maintain health and ammo
Even though the glowing enemies can be turned off, you're still required to glory kill them
>devs lied about linearity
OLD LEVEL DESIGN IS NOT BACK. Its just as linear as your cods and halos
>mp sucks
Need I say more?
>snap map is less than basic
It's literally more basic than the fucking lbp editor, and they thought this was an ok replacement for mod tools. THERE WILL BE NO ABILITY TO MOD THE NEW DOOM
>season pass multiplayer dlc packs
AAA shit
>>337473508
I want none of those games and i don't even pirate stuff.
>>337473957
Forgot to mention upgrade trees and the fact that everyone is claiming to beat the spider mastermind on the first try.
Its ridiculously easy and the weapons feel like shit. They're incredibly unsatisfactory, take for example the triple burst shot gun, it only makes up for how nerfed the sg is in the first place, and its extremely slow, the animation is literally nothing, and the sound design is shit. This can be said for p much every weapon. They're all completely forgettable
>>337472446
Because
>$80 base game + $60 season pass + tax
Being Canadian is suffering.
>>337472446
I've seen plenty of footage indicating that the AI is basicly there to pretend that it poses a threat, it just stands there eating bullets or is flinchlocked from even the smalles firearm constantly ready to be "press X to watch shitty canned cutscene for epic execution while you are in godmode".
So literally made for controller using brainded faggots.
>>337474549
only on easiest difficulty
>>337476146
The number of modern AAA games where difficulty influences AI is literally zero.
>>337474549
This, part of the reason why I laughed at people enthusiastic about Halo 5 was the abysmal AI of grunts.
It was glaringly obvious they disregarded good taste in the environment and enemy movement.
Principal is the same here. Even Destiny irked the shit out of me, but that's mostly due to low variety of enemies.
>>337472446
It's mediocre and doesn't try anything new.
>>337476146
Artificial hit point scaling you mean, perception to danger doesn't change in these games or improved maneuvers / flanking AI.
Just because they hit harder doesn't mean they make use of their environment from normal cover shooting.
>>337472446
It looks like shit and plays like shit
pandering to people without any taste
like majority of "gaymirs".
typical cashgrab
What's your Favorite DOOM Wads, lads
>>337472446
>An all-purpose
>An all
>Anal
>>337477323
Doom 1
Going Down
Doom 1 and 2 the Way Id Did
Putrifier
Sunlust
UAC Ultra
>>337474361
#Whitepeopleproblems
>>337473508
>implying i can't buy these games with all the money i saved pirating all of them
>>337477323
Been playing Going Down with Polished Skull recently. It's really good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yYp8ZeQ-I8
sure op
>>337472767
Fucking this. I expected they would stay true to Doom 1 and do an after credits or something. It was just stupid for an ending.
>>337473957
Anon, literally every single point you made is completely opposite of TB and I'm more inclined to believe him since he actually played it, plus the fact that there are gameplay videos that shows you're fucking wrong.
Either you're lying out of the ass or you're omitting a lot of info here just for the sake of shitposting.
Does the MP have a lasting experience?
>>337476146
all higher difficoulty does is give enemies more health and damage and spawns some more.
instead of taking 6 hits on normal difficulty you are almost oneshot on nightmare and ultra-nightmare.
>>337472446
popular
>>337479726
>console gamers
>>337477323
UAC ultra, serana, succubus queen 1&2, dtwid, project brutality and /pol/.wad.
currently playing ancient ayyliens.
its great so far.
SP is great, I have no idea why id was scared not to give review copies.
>>337472446
>>Fast vertical movement
muh mustard master race bullshit. games in 2016 are designed around the idea of being played with a controller. adding artificial complexity is nothing but a waste and makes its gunplay way more annoying than fun
>>No regenerating health
why even go back to such archaic mechanics like med packs that fuck over your action focused pacing by wasting time searching for magic bandage packages
>>No cinematic QTE cutscene filler
whats wrong with immersion and at least a tiny feeling of where and why? one arena shootout after another makes doom to some special kind of soulless game.
>>FoV and other PC settings
doesnt change the GAME itself at all
>>Unlinear maps with many secrets to explore
game focuses very much on fast action why would you take the risk of confusing your players by letting them explore areas with nothing to do that adds nothing at all to the gameplay experience at all?
>>Endless fun with snapmap
wow cant wait for generic square looking map no 54
>>337473957
>>mp sucks
>Need I say more?
Yes, you do, I'm having a blast playing the MP.
>>337480867
>muh mustard master race bullshit. games in 2016 are designed around the idea of being played with a controller. adding artificial complexity is nothing but a waste and makes its gunplay way more annoying than fun
>game focuses very much on fast action why would you take the risk of confusing your players by letting them explore areas with nothing to do that adds nothing at all to the gameplay experience at all?
>>337472446
None of those things except unlinear maps with many secrets to explore is what made the original great.
Even then it isn't the same in the new DOOM and level design in old DOOM was hugely important factor.
>>337480912
Thanks for reinforcing casual gaming.
>>337472446
Once beat the 2nd wave of enemies in hell the metal starts to die down and dark souls music starts to play. What the fuck. It sets the mood so perfectly
>>337480072
Totalbiscuit has only played 3 hours and he didn't address any of the points I made
>>337480507
theres no aim assist so it cant be console, also they are paid to play video games
The entire game is linear pipes connecting monster arenas. Im not even sure I can call this level design
settle it here everyone
>>337480621
>>337472446
Wish I fucking knew if ps plus was needed for snapmap.
how can a game be good if it has no animu panty shots?
>>337472767
>slow
I fucking hate this meme.
>series of samey arenas interconnected by hallways
What? There are pretty big areas where you get to explore a little after you kill some demons.
>weapons aren't powerful
????
>enemies blend with the environment
Okay, I agree with this.
>upgrade tree
And that's a bad thing?
>finishing moves that make you invulnerable while they're playing out
They're like, only a fucking second long.
>cliffhanger ending
>implying the original Doom didn't have this too
In fact, it was even worse in Doom 1. It made you feel like shit.
Love the OST. Gordon is the shit.
>>337472446
Generic fps of the month now with more demons and even more casual friendly.
>>337472446
Can you make splitscreen games on snapmap?
>>337481649
>It's n-not slow! I play Arma all the time and this is a rollercoaster ride of thrills!
>>337481649
>slow
>I fucking hate this meme.
Because you can't refute it?
It's established that /v/ hates everything. Why haven't we learnt this?
>>337482145
over half of /v/ likes overwatch
>>337481649
>upgrade tree
>"And that's a bad thing?"
What does a supposedly fast skill-based shooter gain from an upgrade system?
>>337481270
One thing about glory kills is it isn't required. But it quickens the flow of the game. Because enemies die more from a punch to the head than a shotgun to the back for some reason.
One thing TB didnt noticed at all is the mechanic revolves on how much health points you have. You get back more health points depending on the status of your health points. If you're low on health the the next few enemies you kill either with or without glory killing them gushes out around 40 health points to keep you fighting. But if you spam glory kills when you have around 60 or 70 points you only get back 3 health points. If you take down a higher rank than you get back somewhere between 10-20 health points back.
>>337481649
>>upgrade tree
>And that's a bad thing?
its dat boi
The game is not slow. This is not up for debate
Maybe those who hate doom 4 have a stone age toaster that simply can't run it
Fuck I ran into my first Bethesda Bug. I pushed in a skull in hell and the door it opens won't open.
>>337481649
>In fact, it was even worse in Doom 1. It made you feel like shit.
>Doom 1
>go to hell and kick everyone's ass
>defeat the demon responsible for invading mars
>feel good you got your revenge
>discover the demons have started to invade earth as well
>get ready to kick some more ass and save earth
>game ends
>Doom 4
>go to hell and kick everyone's ass
>defeat the demon responsible for invading mars
>before you can take a moment and feel good, a robot appears and starts acting allmighty
>get a lot of condesending dialogue thrown in your face
>robot leaves
>game ends
YES, I really want to play the sequel to Doom 4 more than I did Doom 1.
>>337472626
>denuvo meme
there's no proof to any of the claims about this software, retards just spout it because they heard someone say it was bad on /v/
>>337483698
>get ready to kick some more ass and save earth
They never implied that you're going to save earth. It ends with this fucking picture. If this was the ending D44M, /v/ would've fucking raged to no end. D44M's ending is really shitty though. I really do agree.
>>337476569
the amount of times i've been flanked on nightmare is fucking absurded
>>337472446
Gen Z hate it. It's something they've never seen or heard about before. They miss killstreaks and quickscoping so much their minds melt.
>>337472446
it seems the devs took the term "arena fps" literary, instead of interesting level design with exploration and enemies in varied environments you are just running from the next locked monster room to the next.
>>337485283
agreed, i really don't like the fact that each level has only about 10 secrets to find in between each Q3A style enemy room
oh, wait, just kidding. that's exactly what i wanted
>>337482017
>Because you can't refute it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwAVoaZcN6Y
The original DOOM never was that fast anyway. Seriously.
>tfw had to restart on Nightmare 3 hours in because Ultra-Violence was too easy
HOLY FUCK!NG SH!T.. this game looks AMAZEBALLS.. PC gaming is back from the brink baby..! Visceral gameplay, HD graphics, hella sick
>>337485728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pQ0oO_cDE
obligatory
>>337481364
except its not. It has monster arenas but it isn't linear at all.
There's a lot of exploration.
>>337485881
Holy shit my sister plays better than this.
>>337486121
he is right in the fact that each demon room is designed well enough to pass as a section in multiplayer. the only arenas i don't like are the rectangular, non vertical rooms where they love to spam pinkies. the one right before the cyberdemon is the perfect example of what i'm talking about
>>337486370
these are the people who review your video games.
these are the people who are mad at id for not giving them an early copy of the game.
ummm... can you even play a female in this game? no? uhhh...
Where can I find more pictures of semen demons?
>>337485849
nice bait
>>337486535
And apparently this are the people this game was specifically tailored for, since they can beat it with no problems instead of getting their ass handed to them so hard they can't progress.
The AI is so shit it can't even harm a toddler mashing buttons randomly on his controller.
>>337485881
every fucking time man
>>337487029
the person died in the first level of the game on the easiest difficulty.
where can i see your nightmare gameplay? i got past the cyberdemon on nightmare a few hours ago and wouldn't call it "easy"
wolfenstein on uber was easy. doom on nightmare has been a fucking struggle
>>337485881
>can't move and shoot at the same time
what is this goldeneye
Is the season pass seriously just MP only shit? What the fuck.
>No cinematic QTE cutscene filler
are you serious? there's like 5 of them in the first few minutes, not to mention all that tutorial shit. You can't go 10 seconds without doing some lame ass "melee skill kill" and wondering why you aren't in control.
Here's a bump for your shitty ass marketing you're gonna need it.
Anyone else feel like that no matter how shit a video game is, developers will still make a profit because idiots eat up the game no matter what? You just can't even stop it at this point.
>>337487832
I doubt Battleborn will ever turn a profit
>>337487736
you're going to get destroyed if you glory kill an enemy in the middle of the fight. glory kills, at least on an actual difficulty, are just used to guarantee health drops, which can be as little as 5hp, and it causes you to stand still. any time you're standing still, you're probably dead. glory kills should only be used in desperate situations.
so this game is pretty much meant to be played on Nightmare right
everything else is way too easy
Am I the only one here who liked Doom 3? Gameplay was decent, story and characters were barebones but passible, there was at least stuff to discover via PDAs and what not. bit of exploration. Loved those PDAs and the computers and stuff
>>337480072
>TB hasn't played the game fully
>TB is known to be a shill at times
BUT HIS OPINIONS ARE SO CLOSE TO /v/!
>TB actually liked the new Thief game, a game that pretty much everyone thought was shit
Just get off TB's ass guys. Gamergate has been dead for months, and we all thought he was shit until he started pushing for it. With GG being dead, there's no reason to support him anymore.
>>337488268
I miss the spookiness in doom 4
Doom 4 looks way too plain without the devilish ambiance
>>337485036
It literally prevents modding, you fucking idiot.
>>337474361
Isn't the season pass 40 bucks in canada too?
>>337488268
I can see why fans of the doom series wouldn't like doom 3, but as a standalone first person shooter/horror game it was fun as fuck and spooked the hell out of me with some of the settings and jump scares.
Simple question /v/: Is this on par/close to/better than The New Order?
>>337488268
Doom 3 had great atmosphere and I loved the pda stuff as well. It's the shame the environments were so samey and the lack of enemy variety. All I remember fighting were imps.
>>337488597
New order at x5 speed and with shitload of enemies.
>>337488661
I'm sold. Carry on.
>>337477323
E1M1
>>337485881
>mfw switched to this video immediately after watching draqu play it on nightmare for a bit
>>337479726
How, how is someone that bad at aiming
>>337473508
this senpai
/v/ hates what they can't steal
>>337485881
This is the target audience of nuDoom
>>337472626
first post greatest post
>>337473508
why would i want any of those games?
>>337473508
You can keep your console shooters
>>337487282
"Buh-buh- where you gaemplay at"
Butthurt Polycuck detected.
>>337479474
>implying someone who steals games has any actual income to save
I'm playing this on hard right now. How the fuck are console players playing this with a pitiful controller? Are the enemies scaled for the slow combat?
>>337487282
Playing on a higher difficulty won't make the game any less shit but keep trying marketer
>>337489440
No but their parents do.
>>337473508
I miss this meme.
>>337489530
>game is too easy
>raising the difficulty won't change anything
>>337489269
>denial
Anyone has that screenshot posted yesterday where someone found a dragonborn with an arrow in the knee Doom?
pls post it i need it.
>>337489176
Denuvo sucks even for customers that paid the game. It prevents modding and also ruins hardware since it does, on average, 10,000 more read/write per hour than a regular game. It slowly kills your SSD/HDD.
>>337485881
>>337486370
>>337487149
>>337487407
>>337488881
>>337489252
>posts unrelated video to distract from the fact the other person proved it was still fast in >>337485728
/v/ is so stupid
>>337472626
>5 threads on the frontpage screaming "/v/ was wrong" "doom is a masterpiece" "y /v/ hates gaem"
sounds like /v/ doesn't hate the game senpai, so maybe chill with the threads?
Also
I see the real value of denuvo
Every time your game is shit, you get to call everyone complaining a poorfag who hasn't played it.
Thus you can masterfully deflect all criticism with ease.
>>337474361
This. Vidya is really expensive here.
>>337490104
Fuck off marketer
>>337485881
They were playing bad on purpose there right? Right??
>>337490313
>M-marketer
Good argument
>>337490614
Fuck you Todd I'm not buying your shit game
>>337490089
please?
>>337490789
Don't buy it then. Just sit around on /v/ and call everyone a marketer. It's cool.
I just have one question: PSQuad or PCMasterrace? The graphics don't see to different much across platforms.
>>337481649
Cliffhangers in a good game is fine. Cliffhangers in a bad game (D44M) is not fine.
>>337472446
/v/ don't hate this game, you memeing fuck. New doom is great
>>337491104
Keep shitposting on /v/ instead of playing the $60 game you just bought
>>337491357
>Shitposting
>Kettle black
ur cute anon
>>337491471
You obviously want to stay here an shitpost instead of playing Todd's masterpiece
>>337477323
Only ones I played were /pol/ and Grezzo 2.
>>337472767
>enemies blend with the environment.
Fucking this. I can barely see the imps most of the time. That, combined with the speed of their projectiles being even faster than with the fast enemies option on the originals, can lead to some frustrating moments and shitty deaths.
>>337491602
Isn't that what you're doing?
Does anyone want to talk about how fucking shitty the snapmap editor is?
You cant even change simple weapon stats like damage or attack speed.
And who thought it was a good idea to make a controller based editor when the modding community is on PC.
>>337491169
xboneseriously though is that even a question?
To anyone who has played, how is the multiplayer?
>>337477323
demonsteele
https://youtu.be/RElfXigIe4c
>>337480867
reverse shilling?
That's a new thing, right? Where you pretend to hate the game but your points are all fucked up so it makes the game look better?
>>337491915
Well yeah, multiplayer to me usually dies on PC cuz of hax or just general low population. I've really had few good experiences with PC fps multi. At least on cansole I can probably have decent matches.
Because /v/ has shit tastes.
>>337472626
>Work at a store
>Lock our beer cooler after a round of thefts
>Angry thieves complain that they can't steal anymore
>Say they'll never come back
>"Okay"
That's pirates
>>337489909
Damn...
DOOM is fucking dead.
Death by memes
>>337492183
The MP in this game is average as fuck and it'll probably die out on all platforms quickly
this game is only worth checking out for the SP which you can get cheap enough on PC
>>337491838
I'm not fucking buying your game Todd we went over this
>>337472446
No couch coop main campaign
>>337489909
>>337492437
Fucking this. No main coop campaign at all.
Why?
>>337491880
>And who thought it was a good idea to make a controller based editor when the modding community is on PC.
That's because snapmap is just a shitty forge clone and no modding tool
>>337491880
snapmap is modding tools for consoles
I sure hope to god id smarten up and release mod tools for PC DOOM
>>337492345
Guess I won't be playing anytime soon, 63 dollars is too much for a 12 hour todd campaign with a bleeding multiplayer.inb4 pirating
>>337491104
>He paid 60 shekels for a new game but still defends garbage on /v/ for free instead
>That feel when John Romero released a new map some months ago
https://youtu.be/ao9GiD9AiCc
>>337492497
Wow fuck the maymay, that geography is FUCKED. It looks like a goddamn PS2 game jesus fucking christ id.
>>337492569
Why would they? Console players are the primary target audience and the game is probably selling really well
>>337489909
Why do you need a shitty meme almost as old as Borat again?
>>337492734
>geography
>>337492806
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>>337492497
>literal arrow to the knee joke
Why couldn't they just put the helmet there, instead of memeing this hard
>>337493076
If I was a developer, I would deliberately put this stuff in my game just to piss /v/ off.
>>337472446
single player looked decent, actually
gonna pirate soon
>>337485728
That's not fast. That's high FOV. The fact that you can't tell the difference shows how much you know about Doom.
>>337480867
>FOV
>Doesn't change the GAME at all
>AT ALL
Buddy...let me tell you something, son.
Are you that fucking retarded?
Even as a console fag, I want FOV options.
>>337493076
don't forget this one
>>337493837
this is a reference tho
There's a difference between a reference and a meme
a meme would put a literal terminator knockoff dying in lava and doing the thumbs up
your character doing a thumbs up while dying in lava is not the same.
Which is why it would be okay to simply have a skyrim helmet in that same place, but adding a skelleton with a literal arrow in the knee pushes it from "oh look a reference" to "FUNNY MEEM LOL"
Duke nukem going "that's one DOOMed space marine" was also shit, they should have just have the body there with no comment
>>337472446
>No cinematic QTE cutscene filler
>>337477323
H-Doom
>>337485881
Welp that's it, I just saw a video of someone playing a game the worst possible way, I'm not buying this game, it's probably literal trash too, thank you based retard.
