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Don't worry, loves! Calvary's comin' a day early!
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I would care if i didn't have battleborne too play bet then again I don't pre order sorry for bringing any substance to this thread
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>>337470034
fuck off shill
can you at least include the word "overwatch" somewhere in the post so that my filter picks it up
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>>337470034

I'm a retard so wait, so you get it a day early but servers don't come online until the 24th anyway so what's the point?
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>>337470427
Haha ebin shetpoost xdd
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>>337470427
Daww poor baby
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Here's a list of auto-aims in Overwatch.

Soldier 76 ultimate
Mccree ultimate
Reaper ultimate
Winston primary gun
Symmetra primary gun & turrets
Torbjorn turret
Roadhog chain (aim assist)


Here's a list of attacks which aren't auto-aim but you essentially cannot miss with them no matter how bad you are.

Bastion turret gun
Reaper primary guns
Tracer primary guns
Reinhardt primary melee
Zenyatta orb of discord
Winston ultimate
Pharah ultimate
Roadhog primary
Roadhog ultimate
Zarya ultimate
Tracer ultimate
Mei primary
Mei ultimate
Genji ultimate
D.Va primary
D.Va ultimate

Additionally, almost every character has a skill that negates all positional mistakes. For example: caught on the ground as the rocketess Pharah? No problem, just press this easy button and you're instantly in the sky, where you're most effective.

Ran yourself into a bad spot as the fragile Tracer? No problem, just press this button and you're instantly back where you were before.

Got caught in the open as the close-range Reaper? Just press your invulnerability button and float over to a healthkit. You get this and many other movement tools completely free, there's nothing you give up for them, like sacrificing health with a rocket-jump.


The tools Overwatch gives you to solve problems are contained in a single button rather than a complex and difficult set of movements and/or offensive measures. The entire game revolves around identifying the correct rock-paper-scissors situation to press your button, then pressing it. There is no serious skill of any kind involved. You're going through the motions of what you think a video game entails.

The miniscule difference between a week-old Overwatch player and a year-old Overwatch player is lost in the cloud of instakill ultimates, teleports and AOE abilities. This game is transcendentally shit and there is no escape from it. This is the very profitable future of FPS. Hell. Population: you.

REMINDER TO PASTE THIS INTO EVERY OVERWATCH SHILL THREAD
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>>337470034
>get it one day early
>still can't play til next day
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>>337470796
>>337470990
Are you kids retarded? It's so retail peole can play alongside the digital people when the serves go up. How hard is this to figure out?
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>>337470898

literally no one cares
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>>337470034
Something about Tracers butt being prominently displayed in that ad and also my daughter who plays Blizzard games.
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>>337470898
If you want hardcore, high-skill gameplay, why are you here?
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>>337470898
So?
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>>337470898
>mercy
>cold
Kill yourself my man
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>Overwatch may be boring and shallow as an FPS game on account of all of the 'canned skill' abilities eliminating the impact of mechanical skill, but as a strategy game it's good! Just look at how many characters there are, and how many abilities! Surely that leads to good strategy gameplay.

This argument makes sense until you remember that Overwatch is trying to pretend it's an FPS game, not a strategy game. All of the ways in which Overwatch is different from other real time strategy games (the camera, the pace, the lack of resources to fight over) are flaws.

Let's consider Overwatch's strategy merit compared to another the-player-controls-one-unit strategy game like DOTA. Each player has ~3 skills and an ultimate, so there's parity there.

The camera perspective isn't top-down, it's first person. This makes zero sense for a strategy game and inhibits the player's ability to get an overall picture of what's going on. The controls also make it impossible for the player to ever control more than one unit, like they can in DOTA.

There are no map resources to fight over - as a strategy game, the only strategic element is the win condition.

Overwatch is shit as either an FPS game or a strategy game. So it won't sell by its quality.

The only option they have to sell it is manipulative marketing. Here you can see a streamer who was critical of World of Warcraft talk about how he was denied Beta access: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqpBhtq6cHE

Here you can see three TF2 YouTube celebrities are flown to Activision-Blizzard's office free of charge, given a full tour, and hundreds of dollars in merchandise + games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7omcfb5Ttf0

And remember, straight from the lips of Jeff Kaplan, lead producer for Overwatch:

"Actually, Overwatch wasn't ported to console at some point down the line, we've been focusing mainly on it from day 1."
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>>337470898
>Medic OR Mercy
>Cold
The person who wrote this didn't play Overwatch or TF2.
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>I am a proud Blizzard fan and I could care less about the quality of the figurine; in fact, I like that it's low quality because that means my money went to improving the game for everyone to enjoy instead of being put into working on my little piece of plastic. As far as I'm concerned I made a $150 donation and Blizzard spent it wisely.
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Why does this game trigger /v/ so much? Stop taking the bait, ignore the shitposters, and just talk about the game.
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>>337471658
>I am a proud Blizzard fan and I could care less about the quality of the figurine; in fact, I like that it's low quality

Literally 'actiblizzard fans.txt'
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>>337470796
Basically it works like this -

>Stores allowed to sell game on the 23rd
>People wanting physical copies go to the store and get the copy/pick up preorders
>insert disc in to gaming medium of choice
>download game
>wait until midnight
>everyone gets to play at the same time

Now had the game launched a day early I might have actually taken work off.
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>>337471658

>they had issues with the mold the first time they made the statues
>let customers return them to get remade molds
>announced that all future statues would use the new mold

We just need a Mercy statue with a fat ass, now.
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>>337470427
>literally can't handle seeing something that triggers him
Tumblr more your speed?
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>>337470898
I'm getting tired of this pasta.
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>>337472387

If this game actually gave a shit about having complex, interesting gameplay the mobility wouldn't be a single prepackaged skill that just takes you from point A to point B, it would be a set of things. Surfing, bunnyhopping, projectile jumping, grappling hooking, skiing (tribes-esque), walljumping, etc.

But retarded console kids can't grasp any of this, so we get 'Press X to teleport away'.

Did you guys know the general consensus in neuroscience is that humans' brains evolved to their unprecedented relative size and complexity because of movement? Simply because bipedal movement is tough and you need a lot of computation to do it efficiently. That's why we have the most efficient gait in the animal kingdom and can run for longer distances than any other animal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting#Persistence_hunting_in_human_evolution

Fun fact - brains in general evolved for the sake of movement. There is a species of mollusk which has a brain. It swims through a river until it finds a rock it likes, attaches itself permanently to the rock, then digests its brain because it has no use for it any more, being immobile. https://www.ted.com/talks/daniel_wolpert_the_real_reason_for_brains?language=en -

We're the only animal that practices recreational, unconventional movement just because we enjoy experimenting with new ways to move. Dancing, it's called. And ActiBlizzard gives us a button to press that just teleports us to where our class is supposed to be. It's all about the destination, not the journey. The fleeting satisfaction of correctly placing yourself in the best location without any of the forethought, work and expertise required to get there safely and quickly. There is nothing but the button. Press it, monkey.
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>>337472497
>>337470898

Just accept that your game is dying and stop shitposting, Gabe.
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>>337470898
>There is no serious skill of any kind involved
perfect console fps game for me, fun and laid back, thanks anon will defo buy
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>>337471528
Also

>Gun

It's a fucking staff that also gives a damage buff.

And Reaper can be unmasked. And he isn't the same level as psychotic as Pyro.

Whoever made that picture is a fucking moron
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>>337473706
No whoever made that image was baiting.
And you know what? You bit like the fucking moron you are.
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>>337473943
Isn't it instinct to bite bait? Just trying to right the wrongs.

Lol
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>>337473065

Iactually like laid back casuals playing console FPS games because then I just clean up even more
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>>337470898
Ok

But what is your point?
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what the fuck happened bros?
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>>337474824
Your bad attempt at shitposting I assume?
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>>337474824
I dunno bro, what happened?
http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/988683-battleborn-performed-borderlands-2

>Gearbox's MOBA infused FPS Battleborn appears to be struggling on PC, with it even failing to pull in the same amount of numbers as the developer's previous game Borderlands 2. Meanwhile, Blizzard has announced that the recently concluded Overwatch beta managed to attract a whopping 9.7 million players over the course of the week it was online.
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>>337472497
>can run for longer distances than any other animal.
You got memed, friend.
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>>337470034
I bought Doom instead because it took an assload more skill then Overwatch.
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>>337475523
>MUH SKILL
This is how you spot the child.
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>>337475320
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting#Persistence_hunting_in_human_evolution
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>>337474824

Watching streaming shit is for niggers.
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>>337475578
>I dislike Overwatch because it requires no skill to play and is shallow.
>U BAD!!!!!

There's only one child here, and it's you.
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>>337475578
>He wants a game he can just faceroll on the keyboard to win

I bet you hate overcoming obstacles in vidya.
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>>337475523
just play higher skilled opponents then? It will have ranked mode. It still is a shooter so aim matters for most chars
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>>337475682
no u
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>>337475682
And yet, you don't explain why you think it's shallow and takes no skill. You just whine, like a child.
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>>337474824
The complete lack of anyone actually being able to play the game at the moment?
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This is the only reason people play this game don't try and say otherwise.

https://youtu.be/wDfPCxVMrY4?t=9
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>>337475812

but he did

>>337470898
>>337471571
>>337472497
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>>337475849
D.va single handedly sold me on the game I love her pouty face it fills my heart with joy
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>>337475910
Looks more like a shitposting kid to me.

If you hate the game so much, why even bother crying about it? Just ignore it bro.
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The gameplay in Overwatch is incredibly shallow, there is no depth or versatility to any of the heroes, they literally only function at one thing.

And every TF2 counter-part in the game is literally that class for retards.

Game is running entirely on waifu power.
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>>337476078
i think it upsets you that you have no reply to the argument
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>>337476130
And you're running on copypasta power. You must feel so special.
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>>337475523
>Hit F when blinky - never die - much skill
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>>337476153
There's no argument though.
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>>337476076
>tfw d.va was my waifu until I saw mercy, but d.va was the reason I decided to buy the game
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>>337476205
>And you're running on copypasta power

???

I literally typed that shit out and it's my opinion, if you want me to elaborate I will.
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>>337476289

yeah there is

see:

>>337470898
>>337471571
>>337472497

this is like when a child spills something and is so upset they just pretend it doesn't exist.
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>>337476294
I'm glad you like Mercy so much because then I have D.VA more to myself!!
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>>337470898
>cannot miss
>D.Va ultimate
it's literally the worst ultimate in the game

the chargeup is retardedly long and you can just hide behind a telephone pole and not take any damage
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>>337470898
nigga they all got funny accents
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>>337476448
Nice analogy newfag. This your first day here? Because thinking copypasta counts as an argument is hilarious.
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>>337476634
>i was troling the whole time guys
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>>337476684
Who are you quoting? Go outside and get some fresh air, then come back and try again.

You never explained why you don't like OverWatch. You used a shitpost to try and prove your point, and you apparently can't think for yourself.
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>>337475320
>Doggos which literally have to run with their mouths open and tongues out so they don't die of overheating
>Doggos which have been selectively bred by humans specifically to hunt with
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>>337476903
>mom look i'm doing the troleing
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>>337476903
How is it a shitpost if it's true though?
The game is over simplified and made for people that don't want to think while playing.
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>>337477043
>troleing
Wanna try this again kiddo?
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>>337470898
wew autism
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>>337477092
And how is "over simplified"? Did you even play the beta? Or do you just listen to everything /v/ says?
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>>337472497
>But retarded console kids can't grasp any of this, so we get 'Press X to teleport away'.


As someone who has played Titanfall on consoles I just want to ask of you know what you're talking about, faggot.
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>>337470898
Great post that sums up everything I didn't like in the beta.
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>>337470898
Mfw tf2 fags are mad everyone is tired of their old shitty game, and OW is getting really popular
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>>337477262
>And how is "over simplified"?

>>337470898
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>>337477262
Yeah I played the beta from friday to monday because friends made me make a battle.net account just for it.

It's an alright game, but you can see how the game mechanics doesn't favor people with skill from people that just press a button at a convenient time, literall wallhacks and the auto aim/lack of aim needed in many of the weapons make it so a minimal effort is needed to land your shots on the enemy.
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>>337477687
IT'S OVERSIMPLIFIED

>needs to write an essay on an anime imageboard to explain why
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>>337477325
>As someone who has played Titanfall on consoles

Titanfall, with it's dumbed down wallrunning, wow so impressive. It's like Mirror's edge, but in mirrors edge at least you had to press 2 buttons and not just one.
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>>337477828
I didn't write it faggot, it's just a good explanation.
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>>337477981
why not actually play the game first before believing what random people write on the internet
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What time are the servers going live?
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>>337477861
>guys, I'm mad I never got gud

I bet you're one of those people that needed a nice, long flat wall to wallrun because the idea of chaining and bunny-hopping were too complex for you. Just walking around, wallrunning for two seconds, then just falling down and trying to do it again.
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>>337477092
Its not oversimplified just simple. Not everyone wants to learn rocket jumping when you can just push a button instead
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>>337476457
>you will never molest her in her sleep
Sucks being a somnophile.
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>>337478067
But it's true the game has aim support, auto aim, and also many weapons with spread shots to make aiming not really necessary, worst offender is probably Torbjorn, his weapon deals a great amount of damage for one whose's shots are so spread.
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>>337478525
only on console

you aren't going to play on console are you anon...?
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>>337470898
>Valve still thinks they are relevent
Fuck off Gaben, I'm gonna buy it and you can't do jack shit!
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>>337471658
At least it's not Battleborn quality, right?
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>>337478461
>oversimplified just simple.

Man, games like TF2 and COD are already pretty casuals by themselves, Overwatch takes it up a notch, I played the game, and I enjoyed it, but it's really not a game that requires effort to play at all.
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>>337477262
I'm not him, but I'll explain why I think the game is too simple.

I'll just ignore the obvious 'ultimates that rape everybody on screen and require no skill to use other than timing' and go a little deeper.

A nice way to do this is look at the TF2 counter parts.

Tracer = Scout: positioning doesn't matter for her, doesn't need to rely on moving intelligently to dodge attacks when she has a blink ability and a literal 'press this button to undo your fuck-up', also aiming is easy as shit with your only one weapon choice (not including ultimate).

Torj = Engineer: has only ONE building to manage which gets upgraded to max level 5 seconds. Resource management on him is virtually non-existent compared to the TF2 Engineer, all you use it for in Overwatch is the one upgrade for your one building and shitting out armour for teammates, repairing and building the sentry is free.

Pharah = Soldier: You don't need any skill in rocket jumping, you have a button that does it for you on top of being able to hover / ascend moreso with a jetpack. Your rocket has 6 rockets loaded and are much easier to hit than Soldier's. It's also your only weapon other than that displacing shot.

Junkrat = Demoman: Your explosives have an overly generous AOE and are easier to hit anyway, you can only place one remote mine every 8 seconds for jumping or damaging enemies and you have an immobilizing trap if aiming becomes too difficult.

Mercy = Medic: Has a Medigun and Kritzkrieg in one, can literally revive teammates she fails at healing with her ult and the only other thing she can do is shoot people with a pistol. The flying ability to stay glued to teammates is bretty cool though.
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>>337478632
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This..is actually pretty cool. Coming home from work hype as fuck with a new game just to wait an hour for it to install updates is the worst.
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>>337470898
So your saying Rat is high skill?
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>>337478632
kek
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>>337478698
>Junkrat = Demoman: Your explosives have an overly generous
That's so wrong
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>>337478525
OW has way more precise ranged attacks than TF2, pretty much every weapon except the sniper ones are designed to work terribly beyond mid-range.
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>>337470034
WOW 1 fuckign day, just fucking release it already dick heads.
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After playing the beta, every single criticism I've read on here is saying that the parts that make it fun are too fun, and need to be less fun.

I'm so glad that /v/ isn't making this game, or else it would just blend in with all the Call of Duty, Battlefield, and Halo clones.

Sent from my iPhone
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>>337470034
so you can't even play it early? what's the point then?
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>>337475849
But that's not grizzled rocket hammer Sigfried
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>>337478837

to be fair

junkrats nades have a GIGANTIC collision hitbox
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>>337474824
What the fuck, who the hell is watching a game no one can play.
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>>337470034
Neat. Gonna pre-order next week.
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>>337479121
You got me there, plus you really should have brought up the infinite ammo. Everyone else whatever, but the fucking demoman with infinite ammo and a short reload time? Fuck man.
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>>337470898

(You)
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>>337478698
>>>/vg/
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>>337478698
confirmed for not having played the beta
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And people say there's no shilling here. I can respect shills who aren't obvious about it, this is a good place to advertise, but come on, at least try to be subtle.
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>>337479203
I'm watching vods of good players to learn some tricks so I can git gud.
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>>337479342
word

tf2 retards are so obvious
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>play the beta
>had fun
>check /v/

I just wanted to talk about vidya.
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>>337470898
DELETE THIS
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>>337478632
wait, what the hell is that ?
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What is the overwatch equivalent of random crits
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>>337479287
>>337479316
No counter-points?
Green Text?

Yep feels like I'm having an argument on 4chan alright.
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>>337479506

every character's auto-aim ability
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>Month/Day/Year

Fucking 'Murricans.
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>>337478698

>Tracer
Outside of being a very mobile flanker she isn't the same as bonk.

>Torj

Unlike the engineer he needs to actually fight and not take care of his work.
>Pharah

But Pharah isn't soldier the only similarities is her e being a rocket jump but also pushes people away and she shoots rockets.

>Junkrat
Outside of his main weapon he isn't demoman stop projecting your game onto others

>Mercy
Again she has a healing gun but outside of that she isn't the medic

Will you people just stop comparing them when they aren't suppose to be the same. Sure there are little similarities but it doesn't mean they're suppose to be 100% the same.
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>>337479558
there are only two auto-aim abilities in the game
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>>337470034
*Cavalry

Calvary is where Jesus Died
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>>337479669
Except that's a lie >>337470898
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>>337478096
Whenever it is, it won't be soon enough
Can't believe we still have 11 days of this shit
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>>337479672
No, the first time was correct.
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>yfw all the posting and threads on /v/ and the shit storm when the game is dead on arrival
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>>337479424
Me too.
9.7 Million people had a good time.
We can find our place to talk about it when the game's out.
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>>337479669
>Two

You haven't even played this game shut up.
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>>337478698
I think the design philosphy is that when everyone requires no skill, everyone requires more skill. I had fun playing in the beta because it isn't difficult or clunky just to play as a character, but the skill comes from knowing other characters and how to defeat their easiness with your easiness.
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>>337479839

yeah sure

and 11 million people beta tested HotS, too, right? despite its sub-5000 playercount now? and 45 million people play hearthstone despite how you run into the same people over and over in matchmaking, right?
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>>337470898
>Roadhog Chain is aim assist

I thought it was just hit scan? It's doesn't move like a proper projectile, that's for sure.
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>>337479718
most of those abilities are no worse than most weapons from TF2
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>>337479718
aoe, cone fire, and turrets aren't the same as autoaim
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>>337479983
I think he's confused because the hook model snaps onto the enemy as long as it hit
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>>337479506
Ultimates, you get them even if you're a shitter that did fuck all the entire round.
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>>337472497
That's great and all but how about you increase your brain size by moving out of your mum's basement.
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>>337471954
>>insert disc in to gaming medium of choice
>>download game
Then why even buy physical, tiptopkek
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>>337480147
and chances are you are gonna completely waste them if you are this bad
>JUSTICE RAINS FROM A-AAARRGHH
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wow a 4 year old game already had every OW character in it
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>>337472497
>console strawman
>even blops 3 has some of the most dynamic movement system in an fps
>cs go, the most popular pc shooter has literally zero mobility options other than finicky jumps
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>>337472081
I want, I need.

My wife gonna be angry when she find out.
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>>337480009

>aoe

autoaim that hits multiple people

>cone fire

same

>turret

auto-aim that your minion does rather than you yourself
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>>337480275

Of course the most popular shooter won't have interesting mobility, you retard.

Casuals don't like when people can train for years and do stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNvDUO42Hys
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>>337480314
I need it to make me feel heated
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>>337480323
So turrets of any kind, any kind of shotgun, and anything but pistols are "auto-aim"?
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>>337480418
I already know what it is without clicking
>THROUGH IVY
>OUT CONNECTOR!!!
>LIKE A SPEED DEMON!!!!!

The video which triggers consolebabs 100% of the time because there is no dimension in which that gameplay is possible on consoles.
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>>337480323
autoaim implies you're aiming a gun in the first place

if the only abilities were guns you might as well play csgo instead
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>>337480256
If you fuck up your ultimate you start again with 50% charge.
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>>337480263
None of those characters play the same
>needing to combine two characters to compare them to a character from an older game
That is the biggest stretch you can make
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>>337479949
I don't know any of those things or care
I don't give a shit about blizzard post-D3
This game is the one good thing they've done in years and I want to talk about it you fucking faggot
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>>337480525
I love that part so much.
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>>337470898
(You)
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I'm going to enjoy Overwatch and you can't stop me
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>>337480418
>Oh my god. Report.
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>>337480532
and you will be shutdown again if you are such a shitter.
What you are implying is that the ults are always this big game changer, when only one in like 5 games tops will be game winningly important
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>>337470898
.
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>>337475170

I feel so bad for Battleborn. It was just horrible timing releasing it at this time when the Overwatch hype was so high. Timing is everything and they really screwed up.
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>>337480532
I've been hooked like two seconds into roadhog ulti and lost all charge
it's probably only for a select few, like high noon
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>>337480808
It's survival of the hypest
The law of the market
Out here only the marketed survive
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>>337480418
Was it hacks?
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>>337480690
That's like saying random crits are fine because shit players never hit anything
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>>337480263
wow i didn't know blizzard is stealing stuff to make their games, the next thing you want to tell me is that warcraft and starcraft have stolen character designs,too!
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>>337476470
You mean the best ultimate. It turns you into a more fragile Mercy without her medigun or dash or revive. But at least you're not stuck with ineffectual popguns anymore!
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>>337480847
High Noon intentionally has a cancel button, RMB, so that when you activate it you can save the ult for a better time, but it reduces you to 50%.
Happens on death mid-ult too.

Nobody else has that luxury as far as I know.
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>>337480847
I'm pretty sure it's only for things that have some sort of startup to them, a kind of pre-phase.
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>>337470427

Don't you have a weekend Nintendo post to get to?
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>>337480947

There is some debate that the aim part could have been, he made some weird deagle shots in there

The bunnyhopping part wasn't hacks, Phoon was a quake vet who bought a 260hz CRT monitor (insanely rare, you can't even get them any more) and trained for like ~8 years his bunnyhopping.
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>>337480987
Could you explain why? I mean, I don't see the connection between a completely random element that does not in any way reward decision making reaction time or positioning but just happens to abilities with a long cooldown that can be, if used wrong, be completely shut down or do absolutely nothing
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Why is everybody mad that Overwatch is fun? Is it because Blizzard made it and you'd hate to support activision? Lel grow up.
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>>337479657
>Overwatch basically ripped half of its mechanics from TF2
>you think they wouldn't copy its classes too

???

>Outside of being a very mobile flanker she isn't the same as bonk.

That is literally their primary function other than rushing objectives. They both use their mobility to beat stronger opponents which is a fuck-ton easier to do on Tracer who also has an inbuilt ctrl+Z button.

>Unlike the engineer he needs to actually fight and not take care of his work.

Engineer can do a lot more than just turtle, shotgun and pistol are just at good at fighting as Torj's weapon which is literally a pistol + shotgun built into one.

The fact that Torj doesn't have to manage his buildings at all because his sentries are so disposable is just as retard friendly as it gets.

>But Pharah isn't soldier the only similarities is her e being a rocket jump but also pushes people away and she shoots rockets

So the literal whopping 3 things Pharah can do outside of her aforementioned 'no skill rape everyone on screen' ultimate, Soldier in TF2 can do 2 of them and more, yet you're not saying they're similar? They literally have the same playstyle.

>Outside of his main weapon he isn't demoman

He has a remote mine that lets him jump and setup traps, but only one of them every 8 seconds compared to Demoman's more spammable sticky bomb launcher. The only unique thing he has outside of Demoman is his immobilizing trap and ult.

>Again she has a healing gun but outside of that she isn't the medic

How isn't she the medic? Their mediguns function exactly the same except she gets two of them in one (read: retard friendly), being able to resurrect dead players is just a retarded mechanic that doesn't belong in an FPS.

If you honestly believe that TF2 wasn't Overwatch's primarily influence then you are pretty much delusional.
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>>337480418

>4:43

those are some console tier hitboxes for sure.
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>>337479480
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O V E R S H I L L

V

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When will TF2 autists stop bursting into tears at the first mention of Overwatch? Does the thought of their game dying and their $1000 hats being worth nothing trigger them?
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>>337481423
>not even 7k players
>not even 20 games you can join if you put MMR + Regions + Singeplayernumbers into account

no thanks
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>>337481393
If you have to keep saying something is fun over and over to convince people you obviously don't think it is and are insecure about something you like not being fun so you try force it hopes others will listen but in truth we couldn't give a shit.
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>>337480945
RULES OF MARKET

AND WE SELL WHEN THE PRICE GOES UP

WITH OUR HYPE ON THE LINE

ONLINE

FOR A FISCAL QUARTER

MORE CHOICE

GOTTA FOLLOW THE TRENDS OF THE WORLD

ONLINE

WITH THEIR SALES ON THE LINE

OUR CHOICE

OUT HERE ONLY HYPE MARKETING SURVIVES
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>type reaper linkin park into youtube expecting a bunch of parody videos
>instead it's people actually taking him seriously
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>>337481393
i grew up thats why i dont like blizzard anymore :^) and now a new gen of kids can pretend they like blizzshit before growing up :^= )
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Do you guys think Overwatch keys will be available for ~$30 anywhere before release?
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>>337478632
Holy shit, that looks horrible.

A 5 year old could make something better with a bunch of clay.
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>>337481168
I completely fucked up pharahs ult once.
JU-AAUUGH
I respawned with 50%, I want to say it was more but I wasn't paying attention.

>>337481302
No, not really.
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>>337480541
Unlike you I played SMNC (cuz mnc was good) ya, they are the same fag pitgirl does make multiple turrets gunner does deploy into turret mode pharah clone is a mobile rocketeer roadhog clone does have a hook the reinhardt clone is for close range and does have a charge
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>>337481396
Not that guy but lets not pretend tf2 somehow requires more skill than ow. Theyre both casual to the core.
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>>337481528

>You're not actually having fun!

I love this argument because it outs autistic kids right away
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>>337470034
>limited to stock on hand
>digital product
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>>337480180
This. Are console users literal retards?
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>>337479121
>>337479220
Honestly, that doesn't bother me. The only thing I hate about Junkrat is the size of his Ult's blast radius, and that there is not damage falloff. I should not be hit by a tiny tire pop when I'm 20 feet away, and die as a tank. I moved back and shot to avoid it, and a pop from across the screen killed me. On, son.
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>>337481703
Tf2 has higher requirements in both aim and movement, and fewer 'q' abilities to get you out of bad positioning.
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>>337481409

it's a 16tick demo of a 128tick game

by the way, overwatch is 20tick
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>>337481547
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlS-VtssopY
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>>337481841
To be fair it has less health than a tracer, and the loudest announcement.
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>TF2 invented generic character archetypes like the burly heavy machine gunner or fast character with a funny voice
>they also invented class based gameplay

wew lad. i've got thousands of hours on tf2 like everyone else and you guys are fucking bonkers.
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>>337481867
And its still a casual hat collector. Theyre both easy and are meant to be easy to pick up and play.
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>>337470034
<citation needed>
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>>337480808
>Lets fuse the two most popular genres, FPS and MOBA, it will print cash!
>Don't even bother with asking how the MOBA and FPS will work together which ends up making the FPS part of the game total shit, and the MOBA part of the game not fun just because of how shit of an FPS it is.

I don't feel bad at all, they took a calculated risk and they are bad at math. Games shit because they fused what's popular instead of what would work.

Titanfall is as MOBA as an FPS should get, because it is allowed to actually be a good FPS.
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>>337481867
>"q" abilities
>helping with positioning
yeah sure becoming immobile on pharah sure helped me dodge all that shit when i mispositioned once
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>>337481867
you forgot to download LMAO box.
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>>337470427
Oh gee, why didn't they think of that? Wait, they did. They even bypassed the cavalry wordfilter by spelling it wrong.
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>>337480525
I'm not seeing what isn't possible on consoles. I watched about half of it and got bored. What am I looking for here?
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>>337481396
junkrat feels a bit different from demo because his grenade launcher is just much faster, bouncier and spammier with always-on player collision
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>>337481705

They mean the physical copies, retard.
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>>337480314
She'll get over it, anon. Just don't tell your wife's son.
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>>337481997
I don't think anyone says they created anything. But, they did popularize it and pioneered the industry standard of it. TF2 has been a significant influence on many other team-oriented games, FPS or not.
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>>337481396
>Tracer who also has an inbuilt ctrl+Z button.
You know that anyone decent just follows tracer as she blinks and recalls, right?
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>>337481703
TF2's skill cap is significantly higher considering you don't have all of these abilities that save you from shitty positioning and you need to actually know how to aim.

No hero in Overwatch compares to the skill ceiling of Sniper, Scout and Soldier
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>>337481396
>except she gets two of them in one (read: retard friendly)
how is having to determing when to heal and when to damage boost more retard friendly than just using healing all of the time
>being able to resurrect dead players is just a retarded mechanic that doesn't belong in an FPS
it's literally fine
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GUYS TF2 IS TOTALLY DEAD OVERWATCH IS KILLING IT GUYS
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>>337481908

>20tick

I love memes so much :^)
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>>337482282
Then why do you autists cry about it so much? Please tell me.
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>>337470898
I love these TF2Autist tears
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>>337482282

> There's a dead body on the road
> IT MUST BE ALIVE, IT STILL HAS ORGANS!
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>>337482270
>Scout and Soldier
This is humorous to me. You've made me laugh, you funny man.
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>>337473943
>merely pretending
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>>337481704
>Let me pull shit out of thin air
I never said your not actually having fun you autist. Even now being defensive about it shows how insecure about it possibly being a flop and ironically outs you as an autist. Let the game speak for it's self if it's so fun you shouldn't need to shill for it every chance you get then.
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>>337482270
Not by much. TF2 is a CASUAL SHOOTER. Get it through your head.

Your argument isnt even valid, as qs are not instantwin or instantlive, and can be shut down very easily.

Also please dont act like Soldier and Sniper require that mich knowledge to play at an above competant range. Only Scout has a high skill ceiling.
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>>337482282
>only 117k all time peak
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>337470898
Winston doesn't have autoaim. His gun hits everything in a cone in front of him. Same with Reinhardt, albeit in a smaller cone.
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>>337481608
I really hope you're right.
That would solve any complaints I had about her ult.
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>>337482282
TF2 will never die because it's the premier F2P FPS shooter that appeals to children (not exclusively, but somewhat) with light enough specs for every modern computer to use. Same reason why we still have runescape.

That being said, Overwatch should kill off the reasonable middle ground base of TF2 of people who have access to cash to buy real games.
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>>337470034
TF2 has no booty.
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>>337482282

60% of those are hat collectors looking to expand ther backpaks
35% of those are pony/meme spouting faggots looking to shit on the game with taunts
5% of those are people actually playing the game and that's giving a lot of credit
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>>337482187
>piece of paper with bnet game code on it
>limited
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>>337482282
Half the population are afk farmers.
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Crits are far more bullshit and annoying than ults.

I'd gladly take ults over crits any fucking day of the wekk.
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>>337470796
Takes load off of their servers on launch day.
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>>337480263
Difference: One dev left their game a rotting corpse, while the other is marketing the shit out of it and it's working
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>>337482732

You must be 18 or older in order to browse this website.

Finishing high school should also be a requirement so we don't get idiots like you around here.
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> Currently at work
> It's Friday
> Excited because it's time to relax
> Remember Overwatch is not out
> Feel sad
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>>337482237
>You know that anyone decent just follows tracer as she blinks and recalls, right?

Yeah bro, every player is clairvoyant enough to know exactly where Tracer will appear after recalling and what direction she will INSTANTLY blink in (which she can do an additional two times).

>>337482273
>how is having to determing when to heal and when to damage boost more retard friendly than just using healing all of the time

It's not really that elaborate, if the person you're healing is at full HP or is about to use a rape ultimate you give them damage and if they start taking considerable damage you just heal them again - there is literally no cooldown between shifting.

In TF2 the medic has to decide between damage or invulnerability (not including all of the other Mediguns he has now), has two offensive capabilities and the additional mechanic of overhealing which actually gives him something else to do if everyone in range is at full health.

>it's literally fine

It's literally not, what kind of fucked up mechanic in an FPS literally undoes the out-skilling / out-play of players by not only being able to resurrect one enemy, but multiple in one instance.
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>>337481396

Of course TF2 fathered Overwatch. You would have to be an idiot Blizzard shill to deny it and you know what? There's nothing wrong with copying TF2.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and encourages competition. Now Overwatch has gotten Valve off their lazy ass to upgrade TF2.
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Bought the Origins edition just to piss you autistic manchildren off

>REEEE STOP ENJOYING VIDEO GAMES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>337481749
consoles have limited space dude
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>>337481997
>>337479657
>>337478698
>>337476629
>>337476130
>>337470898

>rrreeeeeee someone made a similar game to a game that I like and it is a lot more popular
>fucking faggot retards why would you play the new game wtf? You should like the stuff i like

this is half of /v/
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>>337482545
>Also please dont act like Soldier and Sniper require that mich knowledge to play at an above competant range

>anyone can consistently land direct-hit rockets
>anyone can consistently land headshots even on more mobile enemies

lol no.

Not to mention Widow's Sniper Rifle charges so quick you can basically use the thing as a semi-automatic rifle.
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>>337482676
Excuse me?
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>>337470034
Fucking hate being a poorfag.
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>>337483157
>clairvoyant
Ah, so you are shit at the game. Why didn't you just say so?

>tracer runs along and blinks around you a bit
>blinks can only happen in the direction she is traveling, so not too hard to keep track of
>recall literally goes back to were she was 5 seconds ago
>she ran in from the doorway behind you, so you turn around and shoot her ugly, fucked up teeth, british whore face
SO HAAAAARD! Man, you TF2 players really do suck dick at video games. you'd never make it playing Quake 2.
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>>337482121
Have you never played a shooter on PC before?
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>>337471658
wanted a tracer fig got a travis touchdown, seems fine
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>>337480275
>even blops 3 has some of the most dynamic movement system in an fps

Jesus christ you need to play more shooters if you think that.
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>>337483839
I only play shooters on PC, outside of Splatoon and Goldeneye, really. Oh, and some friends invited me to play CoD: World at War. Not bad, the campaign took place on the pacific front and the Soviet assault on Germany. Neat perspective.
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>>337481537
MARKETING SPOKEN THE HYPE GOES UNBROKEN

I'VE EVEN FORGOTTEN MY GAME

I DON'T KNOW THE REASON OR WHAT IS THE SEASON (PASS)

I'M STANDING HERE HOLDING MY GAME

A DESOLATE PLACE

WITHOUT TRACE(R)

IT'S ONLY THE COLD CASH THAT I FEEL

IT'S ME THAT I SPITE AS I MARKET AND WRITE

THE ONLY THING I KNOW FOR REAL

THERE WILL BE PROFITS

THE SHILL IN THE MIRROR NODS HIS HEAD
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>>337470034
>preorder for one day early

Remember when people lost their fucking minds cuz Deus Ex MD was going to do this, and they were forced to retract it?

AUGMENT YOUR PREORDER
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>>337481396
>'no skill rape everyone on screen' ultimate

So you haven't played the game.
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>>337483486
>lolno

Nice counter argument my friend. If you can do it in one game you can do it in the other. They are so close to being the same game that its ridiculous you still think one is more hardcore than the other.
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>>337483789
>acting like it's easy to keep track of a blinking Tracer even though she can change direction instantly
>acting like you will always know where she is upon recalling based on your theory-shitting scenario

If you can't refute my arguments there's no need to lie anon.
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>>337481908
>20tick

HAHA! I too can make made up meme words too!

83 Sausage! You shouldn't buy Overwatch because it'ss 83 Sausage! I mean c'mon 83 Sausage!
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>>337484401
I never had issues with it. Sounds more like YOU are theory crafting, and even in your imagination you are shit at the game.
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>>337481274
not a nintendrone, thankfully
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>>337484409
The game does have a 20 tick per second refresh rate for the Beta. It is planned to be higher for the actual game, and higher still for ranked modes, so anyone pushing the 20tick meme is just full of shit.
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>>337484409

Are you disputing that tickrate is a real thing, blizzdrone? Does your delusion go this deep?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netcode

ctrl-f 'tickrate' on this page
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>>337484409
>83 Sausage!
Delete this post right fucking now, anon
I've eaten nothing but toast in the last 24 hours and your post is triggering me.
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>>337470898
>111 ips
>250 replies

don't even bother man, they've already hooked in enough retards to ensure this game's success, because people are too stupid to understand when they are being manipulated by marketers.

The false hype strategy will continue to work perfectly, nobody ever learns
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>Have to go 10 more days without Overwatch

WHY
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>>337484637

did it work for HotS?
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>>337470898
>Mercy cold
"No"
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