why the hate ?
They haven't released a good game since 2007
Because after Warcraft 3, they didn't do anything good
>>337459637
Its cool to hate.
they're gigantic faggots
>>337459702
But they have, it's called Overwatch.
>>337459809
Overwatch hasn't been released you dumb fuck
>>337459702
Diablo 3 has become a decent if not good game since its horrible release. The first Diablo is still miles away from anything Blizz has released though.
>>337459809
Close quarters TF2 for casuals
>>337459637
because they got bought up by Activision, because they fucked up Diablo 3 and because they've been riding the WoW wave for so long without releasing something new and interesting, Starcraft II has been alright i guess
Overwatch looks to be a hit, if they announce a Warcraft 4 anytime soon they'll be back on track
but yeah, really looking forward to Overwatch, hope it has some longevity
>>337459879
So? It will be released on the 24th you ugly loser.
>>337459809
>Overwatch
>mediocre = good
???
Everything they have ever done is a ripoff
Warhammer = Warcraft
40K = Starcraft
They didn't even name they just added star, war and craft together you can't make this shit up
>>337459637
Too expensive for /v/
Because it's currently cool to hate them, and /v/'s contrarian as fuck so they automatically hate whatever and whoever's popular.
All it is is just /v/ being the hipsters that they are.
>>337460024
dont forget Diablo which was made by different developers
HoTS is garbage and so is OVerwatch, their new "exciting" IP
>>337459918
>Overwatch isn't good because you can't rocketjump like Soldier!
>>337459637
Blizzard, Kotick and Activision are evil!
You were the Chosen One! You were supposed to be a shining example for the vidya industry, not fuel the cancer. You were supposed to bring quality games to the market, not leave it saturated in micro-transactions, F2P, cash AH and yearly rehash sequels!
You were my childhood, Blizzard! I LOVED you!
>>337460291
>Do I fit in yet gaiz? am I cool?
>>337460487
The people trying to fit in are the ones shitting on Blizzard.
Nice try though.
>>337459702
>since 1998
FTFY
>>337460606
Lord of Destruction launched 2001 friend
Too casual for my tastes.
>Casual RTS
>Casual ARPG
>Casualized MMO
>Casual TCG
>CASUAL MOBA, LIKE HOW IN THE FUCK
>And now, a casual shooter
Once upon a time they made very good games, now all they make is committee designed, casual-oriented mediocre games
Way too many people cling onto them in hopes of the good ol' days returning
>>337459637
Most of /v/ are 19 year old manchildren that think hating on random game developers is a cool and edgy way of sticking it to the man and a good way to fit in here. Sad but true.
Got bought out by Activision, who was cozy with Vivendi. After splitting from Vivendi and becoming their own company Tecent bought 12% of their shares.
Since when did we settle for such shitty mediocre games like overwatch? i love blizz but overwatch? that just aint you blizz
>>337459809
Have another (you)
>>337460853
Since all the original developers have moved on, replaced by a bunch of fucking idiots out of touch with their community who are getting buttmad people prefer to play Blizzard games from 11+ years ago.
>>337460752
This.
Plus it's the "cool" thing to do to shitpost nonstop on 4chan, specifically /v/, so no actual discussion is allowed, and differing opinions is met with an autismic backlash.
>>337460789
>Hating wc1-3 and Sc
;^)
>>337459918
Even hatfags are selling ther shit to move to Overwatch.
Face it, your game was dead and now is even more dead :^)
>>337461115
Prove it. Also..
>implying hatfags are even playing the game
>>337461115
Another anon here, tf2 had a pretty good run.
Somehow I doubt overwatch will be relevant a decade from now
>>337461115
Cool face you got there, friend :^)People were offing their hats years ago to invest into CS:GO's economy. The game died with the Gold Rush Update, it's been running on fumes since then
>>337460024
>Take a shit game and make it better
It worked so damn well for Overwatch too.
>>337460752
I've been here for eight or nine years years.
I've hated Blizz since 2005.
Fact is, Blizzdrone, you can't accept the fact that your overlords are unoriginal, talentless, copypaste Jews.
>>337460678
> Lost Vikings
> Casual
Get the fuck out.
>>337461290
Fucking Metzen man
MUH CORRUPTION
the only original thing they've done was diablo, which wasn't even blizzard
and everything theyve done is taking something popular and dumbing it down tor their retard fanbase
>>337461290
Okay so you're not 19 but still an autistic manchild, even more pathetic. Do you have a job or anything?
>>337461290
>bragging about being an oldfag
so fucking cringe lol
>>337461152
This is for csgo but I am looking for the tf2 talk as well.
>>337460789
>OMG THIS GENERIC FANTASY/GENERIC SCI-FI IS SIMILAR TO THIS OTHER GENERIC FANTASY/GENERIC SCI-FI
For fuck's sake man nobody cares
Closed Blizzard North, merged with Activision (symbolic of saying PROFIT is more important than a clean, quality product), and they're becoming less responsive to the demands of their core fans in order to appeal to more people. I'm not saying any of these are ethically wrong, but they sure don't make people want to like this company or their products. The last one isn't good business sense, though. "Appealing to everyone is appealing to no one". That shit is basic business ideology, and their subscription numbers teflect this.
>>337461115
I am one of them. Got around 200 bucks and purchased Origins edition. Going to spend the rest on future loot boxes if Blizz decides to add them.
>>337461660
So a couple Redditfags are talking about switching, so everyone must be switching right? Get a grip. Overwatch isn't going anywhere with TF2 being free and having a huge economy like that.
>>337459637
They literally lost their test and started pandering to faggots, half of their team these days is pink haried fat bitches with partly shaved side of their heads fucking pathetic
>>337461930
So? They don't have any say on the matter.
The directors do.
>>337459702
LOTV wasn't bad especially compared to the other 2.
>>337462106
theres a reason why there are called Blizzard entertainment, casual entertainment for everyone
>>337462103
the campaign was utter dogshit.
>make a big deal about retaking aiur
>literally btfo in the 3rd mission
>>337460789
This is a great pictorial except for 1 thing
Guild Wars isn't an MMO.
Anyone who thinks this to be true is a retard. Might as well call Diablo 2 an MMO then
>>337460024
I always thought Diablo was a rip off of Moria/Angband
Literally the same game with the same premise.
>>337459809
>>337461819
I don't go to reddit but my current obession with Overwatch literally made me go there and discuss the game with minimal shitposting.
I found out a lot of people were talking about selling their shit just to get OW.
But since I am not familiar with the site I have no idea where to look for.
Whichever the case, you can choose to believe it's a couple but some people are already tired of TF2. Including myself.
>>337461697
>similar
It's the same exact thing. They were licensed to create a Warhammer game, lost the license and just decided to release the game as their own.
Gee, I don't know. Maybe because all their games new are shit.
>>337462364
>Already
Dude the game has been out FOREVER of course you're tired of it. Still doesn't mean Overwatch is any better than TF2, not even close. But people will eat it up because it's fresh.
>>337462421
>It's the same exact thing.
That must be why they were sued into oblivion and have to pay extreme royalties now, right?
>>337460678
>Casual means bad
Fuck off neckbeard faggot
>>337462589
I am not tired of the game itself. It's the changes it has gone trough throughout the years. TF2 as at its core it's still a fun game.
But valve fucked the game so much just to cater to casuals, cosmetics fags, meme faggots and all that toxic shit you gather by making it free to play.
Sorry to break it to you but I am not playing Overwatch just because it's new but rather because it's fun. It reminds me of vanilla TF2 minus the ults but they can be easily overlooked. Unlike those annoying crits.
>>337462924
It does for a game that is primarly multiplayer
wow been downhill last two years but milking money for 10 years its quite a achievement. overwatch is looking out to be next big hit from blizzard after hearthstone card game that blow up big time.
>>337460678
>Casual RTS
I take it you can beat Korean players? Yes?
>>337462778
The problem is lawsuits like that don't hold up in court.
That's why games-workshop has had to change the names of all of their miniature armies. Just to protect their IP.
It's a nasty business.
GW is a shit company, but anyone who doesn't see Warcraft: Orcs and Humans as a ripoff of Warhammer is lying to themselves.
>>337463119
>wow been downhill last two years
WoW has been shit since 1.12
>>337463286
Anyone who doesn't see Warhammer as a ripoff of Lord of the Rings is lying to themselves.
>>337463286
Warhammer has orks?
Sorry for the dumb question, I've never played the game.
And not the guy you're talking to btw.
>>337459702
They haven't made an original game since ever as well.
>>337462349
Bunnehs :3
>>337463436
Mention an "original" game made in the last 6 years please. By any company.
Two reasons.
a: /v/ hates everything because they're manlet children who hate their lives
b: They're salty that WoW stopped being a thing and they lost the only form of pretend social contact they had for years
All the threads asking for vanilla wow are proof enough. Vanilla wow, compared to modern wow, sucked tremendous ass almost to the point of being unplayable. Neckbeards should really take off their nostalgia glasses.
Blizzard is alright. Especially recently. Decent games, great animations, and they include fanservice, too.
>>337463394
Definitely
All fantasy post LotR can be said to ripoff LotR.
>>337463568
Wut. When I saw warhammer I usually thought it was about mecha shit between 2 human races.
Are the games good? I love RTS.
>>337460291
This, basically.
I've noticed /v/ is a lot edgier and younger these days. It's mostly just teenagers trying to be edgy. I find people in threads not even denying they're underage.
>>337463882
why the fuck did my response went there? I meant it for:
>>337463690
>>337463436
They literally created genre called diablolikes
>inb4 but it wasnt blizzard it was blizzard NORTH
>>337463720
>Vanilla wow, compared to modern wow, sucked tremendous ass
The hate comes from the revolving door of developers and how much influence they have (or don't have) over their own productions. When the lead encounter design is a guy who was hired on in 2008 and who's response to a major feature request is "I don't make those calls", people get salty. Their MO over the past 10 years has been to take an IP they own and fundamentally fuck up the execution of a sequel, usually because someone sees dollar signs and throws quality out the window in favor of nickel and diming their user base.
>>337459904
Ros is better than post rmah vanilla but it's still shit and grs have forced the game into stale content release forever because they doubled down on their bad mechanics. >>337462103
Lotv made protoss unplayable. Only about 12% of grandmasters play it. >>337462324
Gw and gw2 are mmos.
D2 is also an mmo as the bulk of the game consists of sitting in a hub with 100s of players looking for trades
>>337463882
You're in luck, then.
There's Total War: Warhammer coming out in two weeks.
There's also Vermintide which is a more Left 4 Dead type game.
>>337464328
>Gw and gw2 are mmos.
>D2 is also an mmo as the bulk of the game consists of sitting in a hub with 100s of players looking for trades
neo-/v/ is great
>>337461697
I care. Get fucked.
>>337464408
Hate to break it to you but there's only 3 games that exist that aren't instanced in some way.
If D2 and gw aren't mmo because of player limit in zones, then you probably are too much of a potato to notice wow is also heavily instanced. I'm not talking about raids and dungeons either.
>>337463949
You can 'inb4' all you want, but even you know it was blizz north.
>>337460606
>>337460657
I think Reign of Chaos, The Frozen Throne, base World of Warcraft, and The Burning Crusade are quality games. I agree with the "since 2007" statement.
>>337459809
Are you stupid or something? It's not released yet.
People were used to Blizzard delivering exceptional games on a fairly regular schedule (Starcraft, Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, World of Warcraft and it's first expansion), which they simply do not do anymore since game development has changed so much and they figured out that they can make more money with very casual, cheap to develop -> high ROI, pre-mobile skinnerboxes than ambitious AAA projects.
>>337459637
ruined wow and they're huge jews
>>337464868
>>337465168
I'm laughing at the difference in presentation between these two posts, but they're both saying the same, correct statement.
Listen up if you buy from Blizzard, Ubisoft, Bethesda, EA, Infinity ward, Treyarch, Gearbox, or 343 in the current year promptly kill yourself
>>337459637
Stopped making good games quite a while back, I still enjoy replaying the older ones though
>>337459637
Hook-nosed jews took over and killed blizzard and the vidya.
>>337465359
you write like
>>337464868
and get ignored
thats why most people here directly say "game X its shit"
because saying "why" only gets blind fanboy answers and no "sane person who likes X game" response
>>337464868
>and it's first expansion
WRONG
>>337465874
What's wrong with BC?
>>337466080
It wasn't the beginning of the decline but it embodied it. Resilience to nerf crit-heavy classes, stupidly heavy nerfs to classes that didn't need it just to appeal to normies, hybrids becoming more effective at multiple roles, DPS classes still stuck as just DPS, queues, smaller raids, flying mounts killing world PvP, arenas killing world PvP, battlegrounds became less PvP-centric.
The zones and content were cozy though.
>>337466080
It introduced everything wrong with the MMO genre.
-Crossrealm everything which kills any community that may have existed
-Instant teleporting to dungeons which kills any sense of immersion
-Flying mounts which killed world PvP and lowered the chances of running into other adventurers during your questing
-Casualized raiding in favor of spoodfeeding all players with emblem epics
It's unfortunate, because a lot of the raids in BC were really fun. They just didn't feel as satisfying to achieve, because it really meant nothing. They required very little effort and anyone could do them.
It was the beginning of the end
>>337466601
My nigger.
>>337464868
I miss old ashenvale and azshara
>>337466565
>Resilience to nerf crit-heavy classes
could have been handled better but improved PvP compared to vanilla
>heavy nerfs to classes that didn't need it just to appeal to normies
?
>hybrids becoming more effective at multiple roles
yeah fuck hybrids being viable at anything that isn't healing
>DPS classes still stuck as just DPS
fucking what?
>queues
what
>smaller raids
I think having 24 mouthbreathers in my raid is an improvement to having 39 mouthbreathers in my raid, also karazhan was comfy
>flying mounts killing world PvP
valid point
>arenas killing world PvP
not really, mostly the mounts
>battlegrounds became less PvP-centric.
AV became less of a HK grind, that's it
>>337466601
T6 and even T5 raids were nearly completely ignored by the majority of guilds on our server because they were too hard, even after them removing the attunements.
Raiding (outside of Karazhan, Gruul, maybe sometimes Magtheridon and later on Zul'Aman) wasn't accessible at all during most of BC before the very late 30% bosshealth nerf, which essentially trivialized all of the content while some of the guilds still were stuck in the middle of Sunwell progression.
I do agree on the flying mounts and welfare epics though, but it really wasn't nearly as bad as Wrath and onwards and a small catchup mechanism for scrubs is alright in my book.
>>337467615
Fucking this, most people never cleared T5 let alone T6.
>>337467068
Not sure why I'm responding to an idiot but...
>improved PvP
Wrong. PvP in vanilla was perfect. The only thing wrong with it was people who thought they wanted to play on a PvP server didn't actually want to play on a PvP server.
i.e. Priest gets ganked in STV by a Rogue and cries on the forums that he can't beat a rogue 1v1. This isn't something wrong with PvP, it's a player who didn't know that a priest should have a friend and that he was playing an MMORPG on a PvP server alone.
>nerfs
Warriors, Rogues, Hunters and Mages all got nerfed for no real reason other than "they're too hard to beat in duels" when PvP was based on team play, not duels.
>hybrids and DPS
So why do hybrids get to be good at several roles while DPS are only allowed to be good at one role? Why did blizz allow hybrid classes to be good tanks, good healers and good DPS while DPS classes could only DPS? How is that fair at all?
And by the way there was nothing wrong with hybrid classes before BC. They had a tree dedicated to PvP.
>queues
Being instantly teleported to a dungeon while eliminating the need to make a group for a dungeon yourself killed the community and sense of adventure.
>smaller raids are an improvement
Yeah, well they're not. They're less fun and killed the atmosphere for big raids.
>arenas
Plopping kids into an arena and making it the center of PvP eliminated any kind of element of surprise a rogue or other stealth class might have. PvP belonged in a battleground or in the world, not in an arena.
>it was only AV
Every battleground became a race to complete the objective and doing any different would be shamed as a stall tactic.
>>337460291
>currently cool
lol
Because of Diablo 3. It was made from the philosophical design standpoint of accountants and anti piracy rather than gameplay and what actually makes a good game.
Would not touch them with a bargepole.
>>337459637
Used to make good games, now makes treadmills.
>>337462345
blizzard didnt make diablo
>Blizzard North was originally an independent company. It was established in 1993 under the name Condor, founded by Max Schaefer, Erich Schaefer, and David Brevik. The company was purchased and renamed by Blizzard about nine months before the release of their hit PC game, Diablo, in 1996.[1]
Hate Activision Blizzard; not Blizzard.
>>337468027
>Wrong. PvP in vanilla was perfect.
Fuck right off
>Warriors, Rogues, Hunters and Mages all got nerfed for no real reason other than "they're too hard to beat in duels" when PvP was based on team play, not duels.
Dunno what warrior nerfs you're talking about, enrage and deathwish not stacking? Shit was bonkers.
Rogues as in HARP? Shit was broken as fuck in all aspects
I can't even think of mage nerfs and I mained it all of TBC and hunters got their deadzone removed which was the biggest duel buff you could ever think of for them
>Hybrids
I don't understand, why the fuck would you roll a DPS class if you wanted to heal or tank? How does this make TBC bad if it's been the same from vanilla to current retail?
>queues
Wasn't group finder added in wotlk, not tbc?
>smaller raids
raid mechanics > raid size and TBC absolutely trumps vanilla when it comes to that.
>Plopping kids into an arena and making it the center of PvP eliminated any kind of element of surprise a rogue or other stealth class might have. PvP belonged in a battleground or in the world, not in an arena.
So don't play arena if you don't like it, fucking hell I only played arena myself for the weapon and played BGs for the rest of the time
>Every battleground became a race to complete the objective and doing any different would be shamed as a stall tactic.
Vanilla rank farming was in no way better than TBC honor farming.
People seem to have dedicated their entire time to either loving and defending the shit out of Blizzard or hating them to death.
I personally don't care, if they make a game I like I'll play it. Overwatch was fun when I played it, so I'll play that.
LotV was alright too, I haven't played in awhile but I liked the co-op missions. Might come back when they add Abathur.
I dislike greedy devs as much as the next guy, but the butthurt that's directed towards Blizzard is kind of ridiculous. Nobody has even talked about Capcom and their new shitshow of a Resident Evil game. Maybe that's because nobody expects Capcom to make anything decent anymore. Even SFV was underwhelming.
>>337468989
>Fuck right off
Nice argument. Didn't read the rest. Obvious shill.
>>337469112
>x was perfect is a good argument
5/5
>>337469175
Yes, as in there was nothing wrong with it. You're welcome to come up with examples of why it wasn't.
>hnnnn I got ganked :(((
>>337468790
This desu.
The Jew ruined Blizzard completely.
>>337469273
>dishonorable kills
>the most unbalanced the game has been
>korean tier grind for gear that's still worse than pve gear IN PVP
perFECT
>>337468027
You seem to be confusing a lot of stuff and mixing it with your subjective opinion.
Most buffs and nerfs were usually targeted towards PvE and balancing was done with mostly PvE in mind with the goal of delivering asymetric PvE gameplay. PvP always was more of an afterthought and just managed to be fairly well balanced for a brief period of time during TBC in a single arena bracket (3v3) while others were always fairly unbalanced and broken including world PvP, which was obviously a lot of fun due to it's emergent nature but far from good.
Hybrid classes were severely underpowered on at least 1 more often than not 2 trees in PvE except on a few bosses where we switched in the hybrid tanks for a single purpose (Druids on Brutallus, a Paladin tank on M'uru)
For DPS Warlocks and Warglaive Rogues were king to a degree where there was little reason to bring other melee DPS or casters to a fight similar to the abuse of class stacking in general, which they tried to counteract with their "bring the player not the class" homogenization.
Dungeon queues were introduced in Wrath and 25 player raids were less of a clusterfuck and easier to organize and imo a good compromise in comparison to 40 man raids.
>>337460789
Good thing the writer doesn't show any bias there.
>>337469746
>X class can destroy Y class in dmg metters/pvp
>NERF X CLASS ITS NOT FAIR I SUCK WITH Y AND CAN'T WIN!
yea sure . with pve in mind
>>337469746
>25 player raids were less of a clusterfuck and easier to organize and imo a good compromise in comparison to 40 man raids.
>making things smaller and with less people are a good idea in MMO's
You are the cancer.
>>337469939
Those are some fantastic references to the specific nerfs you're talking about
>>337469551
>the most unbalanced the game has been
I've already explained that it perfectly balanced around team play. The only problem with the balance was that people didn't understand why rogues were godlike 1v1.
And that "korean tier grind" was based on the other players on your server. If you were on a competitive server then you had a competitive week ahead of you and vice-versa. That's what PvP is, after-all. Competitive.
>>337469746
>Most buffs and nerfs were usually targeted towards PvE and balancing was done with mostly PvE in mind
Wrong. Resilience nerfed all classes that relied on crit to do burst damage. Arms and fury trees for Warriors were severely gimped. Rogues basically only had one "good" spec for PvP, down from several. And that one "good" spec was shit.
>hybrids were underpowered
No, they weren't. Paladins were excellent healers. Retribution had good buffs. Protection was okay in PvP, too. Druids were superb healers and their other specs were alright for PvP. Shamans were good healers, good buffers and dank in PvP.
>25 man raids
The only thing these did was make it so you needed like 15-20 decent players instead of 10 good players with 30 chumps. The content revolving around this was fucking stupid least-common-denominator bullshit. One person stepping on a tile or needed to stand up to take a piss shouldn't be the difference between a wipe and a kill.
>>337470369
>warriors
>rogues
>bad at TBC pvp
did you even play this fucking game
>>337459637
test
>>337470478
They were pretty shit. Other classes had a much easier time.
>>337470837
>literally the 2 most populated classes at high ratings were shit
>the least populated class (lmao shamans) were good at pvp
nigga you gotta explain some shit because statistics fuck you in the ass
>>337459637
The old Blizzard staff made up of gamers who made games because they loved games and wanted to make the sorts of game they would want to play themselves, was replaced by a bunch of Activision nu-males who can't take a shit without consulting "market research" first
>>337470837
You do realize that 2v2s were all Warrior/Druid or Lock/Druid and 3v3s were also fairly well populated with Warglaive Rogues, Warriors and Locks in a similar, less bullshitty fashion?
>>337470837
>two best BC comps were WLD and RMP
>"rogues and warriors were pretty shit"
>>337471045
>>337471323
>>337471361
Running around in circles for hours doesn't make your class good at PvP. It was a simple debuff and cleanse war. Shit was fucking stupid because they got nerfed to shit, added with resilence. Warlocks had a much easier time in PvP because they went through the TBC nerf cycle practically unscathed.
>>337460789
>Warcraft II
>1195
Ayyy lmao, travelling back in time to release vidya in the middle-age
They're not the company they used to be, and the company they are now is substantially worse.
>>337471684
desu our premades would have won a lot faster if we had warriors instead of casters
>>337471684
Honestly you sound like one of those BG players who were mad about not being able to rng down undergeared clothies anymore due to resilience and the resulting increase in TTK, which enabled other classes to actually have some kind of counterplay to geared Rogues or Hunters, that was virtually nonexistent in Vanilla. Should have gotten yourself hands on a pair of Warglaives, which introduced the rng bullshit again.
Not saying that Warlocks were pretty bad, but Warriors and especially Hemorrhage/Adrenaline Rush/Preparation rogues were way worse at certain points.
They butchered SC and Diablo. Fuck them.
>>337472604
>Honestly you sound like one of those BG players
And you sound like a blizzard shill. Didn't read the rest.
esports
greed
pride
three good reasons to not take them seriously
>>337472701
Usually this is the part where you damage control with "I was just trolling h-haha"
Success breeds jealousy
Blizzard kinda declined though
>>337472693
>They butchered SC and Diablo.
Whats wroung with Diablo 3 exactly
>>337473040
Well then perhaps you'd like to explain to me why I shouldn't be able to elbow drop an undergeared clothy.
I mean he's wearing cloth and not the good kind. That's sort of the point of MMORPGs. Your gear determines your status. RNG decides if you crit or not. Not a difficult concept.
>>337473242
It's shit.
>>337473336
But you could elbow drop an UNDERGEARED clothy.
A 4/4 glaive rogue would kill a green geared mage in 3 hemos.
>>337473336
>It's shit.
Maybe for release but the expansion fixed the problems of the launch.
Get that rusty stick off your ass
>>337472146
That can be applied to 99% of the companies in this industry though.
>>337473242
I could go on an autistic explanation of why they shat all over their franchises with StarCraft2 and Diablo 3, but at this point I no longer care enough. I'll forever have an anal fissure over SC2 in particular, but it's not worth it to explain my hatred for them just to get a 'lel sperg'.
>>337473242
>>337473468
>You only needed the best weapons in the game urrhurrrr
Fuck off please? Thanks. Seriously, just stop responding to me. Blizzard shill.
>>337473524
Too little too late.
>>337474092
Yeah, with arena weapons you need 3.5 hemos
Because I used to love [Blizzard Game] and played it all the time with my friends. Those were the days back when I was 12. Played the games for years, they were the best. Then Blizzard [nerfed my class/released an expansion I didn't like/got bought by Activision/made a game slightly different to my autistic needs] and they became worse than Hitler. They're fucking dead to me now.
>>337474001
kys
>>337473336
Because the ability to elbow drop any kind of class hints at balance issues. That's why resilience was introduced and fairly easy to come by so you had to actually play better than your opponent in PvP rather than relying on the randomness that are critical strikes.
>>337474684
>Because the ability to elbow drop any kind of class hints at balance issues
You're wrong. If someone has better gear than you they should be able to elbow drop you. That's why you get better gear. It's not a balance issue when balance revolves around team play. Rogues were a class that could stomp you if you were alone. If a priest had a warrior buddy they were incredibly powerful.
Resilience was added simply to fuck over crit-heavy classes like rogues and warriors because idiots like you whined about getting ganked while playing your clothy alone in a PvP zone.
Every RPG has RNG. Almost every video game has RNG. If you don't like RNG don't play an RPG or find a different hobby all together. If you want to play solo play a single player RPG. If you don't like getting ganked play on a PvE server or don't fucking play the game. Stop ruining the game and the genre and the video games in general just because you're too fucking stupid to play something more fitting for you.
they're a company completely devoid of ethical business policy
>>337475379
And despite all this, you could stomp people in wpvp 1v4 as one of the most crit dependant specs in the fucking game (frost mage).
>>337475672
It was almost like they were good at AoE or something.
>>337475875
Except frost PvP had nothing to do with AoE except getting rogues out of stealth with r1 blizzard.
The whole point was to control them and blow them the fuck up one at a time with a shattercombo (read: CRITS)
>>337461542
>being a fag
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>>337476072
Yes, crits. Poor baby. Maybe you should ask yourself why none of those 4 players had an answer to a frost mage. Blind, vanish, fear, counterspell, heals, shields, buffs, shapeshift...
Were they out of mana? Were they four warriors? Were their cooldowns all depleted?
>>337459637
Because welcome to neo-/v/alvedrones-subgaf reddit rejects.
Taste ends here.
>>337476332
It was mainly due to them being both undergeared and bad at the game. See http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=70655
You obviously couldn't 1v4 against skilled players with pvp trinkets and PvP gear.
>>337476332
Make up your mind m8
Should gear dominate in PvP or skill?
TBC was a mix of both, while vanilla was mostly gear based.
>>337459637
Nostcucks are still mad
>>337459637
Give me a good reason not to hate them that isnt fueled by nostalgia
>>337476702
So they were undergeared and bad at the game. They should lose 1v4 against someone who plays the fucking game.
>>337476739
In that sense a rogue could 1v1000000 against level 5 characters. That's clearly not a balance issue, numb-skulls.
>Diablo 3 / Ros
fucking garbage / pretty bad
>Starcraft 2 LOTV
bad singleplayer, stellar multiplayer
>HotS
dogshit
>Hearthstone
good, but not really a game
>WoW
bottom tier trash
Overwatch has yet to prove itself. Will it be capable of breaking the horrible track record?
>>337477126
>Will it be capable
As capable as a TF2 clone can be.
>>337477126
>Overwatch has yet to prove itself. Will it be capable of breaking the horrible track record?
It's a casualized version of tf2, like HotS was a casualized version of LoL.
It's fun but I don't see it lasting long without a competitive scene, and that wont happen while lmao20tick is a thing.
>>337477503
As opposed to Hots though, Overwatch has insanely high production quality. It is very obviousy a huge amount of money went into Overwatch, while Hots is only a side project.
>>337477704
Overwatch is the scraps of what was left of Titan, so we are probably just seeing how much money they have actually lost on that game and probably the reason why Blizzard will not dare to produce a new MMO in the foreseeable future.
>>337459637
I have to download a pirated version of Diablo 2 to use mods because blizzard fucked with their own D2 client
>>337462103
lotv killed sc2
>>337478787
You can't kill what was already dead
>>337480523
>esports
ded
>>337459637
They overbalance their games. While they doing that they force you to a certain playstyle, stealing all your agency. If i wanted that, i would watch a movie.
>>337463120
>blizzard makes a cookie clicker game
>"haha dude can you beat koreans with their 200 clicks/second? thought so, scrub"
