>start up Civ V for the Xth time
>muddy, eye-tiring graphics
>clunky menus
>cumbersome unit movement
>limited diplomacy and trade
>start up Civ IV again
Am I missing out? I have Gods & Kings, but not Brave New World.
>>337455072"aye aye"
or whatever the builder units say everytime their turn comes up
>>337455072
No, just stick to IV like all non casuals. Hell, if you've played too much IV and want something fresh then download III.
>>337455072
Mods will fix the menus. Diplomacy is forever fucked though. The AI's are dumb in that respect, especially with peace treaties.
Also, RIP in peace Civ 5 thread. These never last long on /v/.
IV is all you need if you play the right mods.
bro i've been playing Civ seriously since the game came out and they are all the same shit.
the AI and diplomacy is bad in all of them and the units are maximum clunky in all of them.
the most amazing thing about Civ games is that they run on toasters. except for Civ V because who the fuck knows why.
>>337455724
I've played 3 extensively but never 4
What am i missing other than religion
>>337457586
I'd like to know too.
civ 5 is a better game. civ IV is a better civ game.
Which Civilization is winning irl and why is itSaudi Arabia?
I just wish I wasnt punished for making lots of cities. I thought that was the fucking point of the franchise.
>>337457949
Saudi Arabia is a gigantic shithole
>>337457980
This Tbh
I want to expand but expand means unhappy for some shit reason
>>337457949
Obviously. America is scared as shit of those camel archers and those fuckers have double oil, so they get away with everything.
Also, Babylon got rushed and btfo early cuz it would have been a serious problem by now. Same with the Incas.
>>337458090
>implying
a racially homogeneous society with petrodollars and no taxes with indian slaves taking care of your infrastructure leaving you with free healthcare and 3 month+ vacation time a year? yh sounds like a real shithole
>>337455072
Nah you're not. V is... okay, but IV remains the best in the series by a good margin. By the looks of things VI might be even worse.
>>337458247
Man, if only the Zulu weren't wiped out early. We'd be seeing some fun late game right now.
>>337457980
In older civilizations, you usually made as many fucking cities as possible. Sometimes corruption or whatever similar mechanic would weaken them but the advantages of having tons of dense cities outweigh the costs
In civ 5 cities are supposed to be, well, actual cities, and not just population generators. They also made it viable to NOT have as many cities as possivle, whereas that was very difficult in previous games.
>IT HAS DOOM STACKS SO IT'S MORE TACTICAL
Fuck off
>>337458321
It's not that impressive to be wealthy when you run an oil cartel and get your dick sucked by the west even though you secretly support terrorists m8
All the oil money in the world doesn't mean much in a country where they still crucify people anyway
>>337458247
The persians are still around but they kinda suck, you can't base how they would've done on how they were back then
Also zoroastrianism revival when
>>337457949
China. Altough wrecked by Japanese, they managed to change their Social Policy and got those trade mission up. I think they have most gold now.
Get Brave New World and Enhanced User Interface
enjoy your game
>>337458764
>zoroastrianism
Shit's dead anon, we'd need a Great Prophet and even then it might not work
get BNW
civ5+all exps is the best civ experience and the more tactical one
Civ 3 > Civ 5 > Civ 4
never played 1 or 2.
>>337458834
>pasta not edited
Denounced
>>337458602
Jesus this site has gone to shit
>>337459019
awful taste senpai
civ 4 >>>>>>> civ 5 bnw = civ 3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vanilla civ 5
>>337457949
china tbqh
>>337457949
China.
Saudi Arabia got screwed with the late game Global Warming effect. They won't make it to 2050.
>>337457586
Iv has the best mods
>>337455453
To many syllables for that. Their sound always annoyed me, like when you want to focus on moving your military first but it keeps moving back to them every time.
While we're on the subject who has the best sound and why is it submarines?
>>337460807
Bombers nigga
Civ IV and V are both on steam sale, worth buying?
store.steampowered.com/sub/4323
store.steampowered.com/sub/36075
>>337461549
No, cheaper on G2A.
>>337459067
>not edited
I didn't see any gorilla warfare in there, unless it's a different pasta.
>>337455072
'been playing since 2, countless hours each one... all of you fucks saying V is "dumbed down" are literally stupid people. If I have to explain why you're proving my point.
What are your favourite map types? I really enjoyed small continents on my last run.
>>337462331
Fractal/continents master race.
>>337462331
continents all day evey day
fractal if i want to go tall
>>337462331
continents plus, mesopotamia if you like barbarians
Rolling.
>>337457586
>>337457751
Extremely good multiplayer, everything that was annoying about Civ 3 removed such as corruption and waste, a ton of great ideas that make for a very balanced game(like the make-your-own-government Civics system), and a FUCKTON of cool mods.
The main advantage 3 has is more tactical combat. In 4, no ground units have ranged attacks. Which turns artillery into suicide units used to deal collateral damage to a stack of units before dying. Kind of weird but the combat still isn't bad.
>>337463486
Cultural Huns on Archipelago pls
Just fuck my civ up senpai
>>337463486
there go 10 hours of my life
>>337464553
>cultural victory as rome on an earth map
not bad
>>337463486
dutch get
I've been looking to get into Civ games for quite a while now, what does Civ IV have that makes it superior to Civ V? Or for that matter, what does Civ V lack that IV doesn't?
>Remember when I first got Civ 2
>I was like 11
>Ordering a spicy chicken pizza and a bottle of coca cola
>Got comfy by pulling up a lounge chair and quilt to family computer and playing all night
>Go to bed at like 6am before family wakes up
>Mother can't wake me up for school at 7am, speaks to doctor on phone and he recommends I stay home that day
>Wake up at lunch and play some more
Civ hasn't been that good at launch since Civ 3. Civ 4 with mods a year or so ago was great though. Civ 5 with lots of mods now is still average.
I have no hopes for Civ 6 seeing how they just abandoned Beyond Earth when no one bought the DLC
>>337465893
Jesus Christ your greentext takes me back
>friend form school gives me burnt disc of a collection of strategy games
>immediately get hooked on civ 3
>one night I was particularly enjoying a game when the clock struck 9 and I was dreading the fact I had school the next day
>snowstorm hits our city and it's announced on TV that school is off the following day.
>literally the happiest moment of my life seeing that report
>go back to my room and play until the morning.
good times anon. good times.
>>337463486
rolling.
>>337465351
pls respond
>>337469275
Civ IV has Rhye's and Fall as well as Caveman 2 Cosmos, which I'd argue are the two best mods ever made of the series, although Caveman 2 Cosmos requires a LOT of patience. It's honestly not all that great without the mods really.
Civ V is a lot of fun, but only with all of the expansions. In fact they're both kind of bad without the expansions, but Civ V is like playing a completely different, much shittier game without them.
I'd honestly recommend 5 over 4 at this point, a lot of 4 has aged pretty badly, even with the mods. I also don't consider good mods to mean a good game, so that could be some personal bias talking.
>>337457586
nostalgia.
>>337463486
Lego my eggo
>>337458090
British foreign policy is written in Saudi Arabia.
>>337469662
thanks for the imput m8
Guess I will get Civ Vand pirate IVthen
>>337459019
Civ 5 is literally terrible.
>>337471415
You're wrong desu.
>>337455072
Both expansions is what turns it alright.
>>337459019
The other way around is better.
>>337463486
Sure.
>>337471415
I like Civ5 complete more than Civ4 complete.
And even in naked vanilla the games are about the same quality tbqh.
And before you bring up MUH AI and MUH MULTIPLAYER ISSUES, Civ4 also had (and has) shit AI and multiplayer desyncs.
>>337473498
B-but muh mod that adds 10000 techs and 9999 units to fuck the AI even more
>>337463486
rollio
>>337463486
rollan 4 mongols
>>337457949
Not even memeing, but Israel has got a pretty sweet deal going on with the US just throwing cash at them
>>337474451
>there is like 15 million of them worldwide
>nobody likes them
>discriminated against casually in daily life
>country has been at war since its inception, gained little
>entirely dependent on USA donations to exist and would disappear from the map if USA gives up on them
Low score.
>>337474451
everyone knows who they really are
>>337463531
Corruption was a good idea though
>>337457949
Russia.
>>337474653
>15 million
That number sounds a little high, where'd you get those stats?
>Civ 5
>clunky menus
>>337474916
Out of my ass. From memory, they were 7-8 in Israel, 7-8 around the world. Can't be arsed to check.
Its okay lad, Russians are over a hundred million, yet like 50 million have died in wars in the last century. I am not trying to holorollercoaster you.
>>337455072
Didn't you hear? Civ VI is coming out, that means Civ V is now perfect and so much better than VI will ever be. You're not allowed to dislike it anymore, you're supposed to dislike VI now. Check your inbox for the memo.
>>337474845
I agree with this. I must admit it's one of the things I miss from III.
>>337463486
rawlin
>>337463486
ayyyy
>>337455453
Just sounds like grumbling to me
