>game has "boss battles"
>western "boss battles"
>boss is nothing but "wait until he does that attack that lleaves him open to hit"
why are we always the weak person in those games
why can't we be the boss and kill the scrawny hero
>game is only boss battles
>"tactical combat"
>>337420692
Would you prefer bosses where you hit the huge glowing weakpoint to do massive damage?
>>337420382
>Weeaboo boss battles
>game has you fighting through endlessly respawning mooks to get to the endpoint instead of a boss battle
>>337421887
No, but i prefer Sly Cooper's 2 and 3 boss battles where you are both beating the shit out of eachother at the same time
Or No More Heroes where same thing applies but if you time your blocks right you can get a lot of hits in with a counter
>>337420834
Because when you're the hero you need to overcome your weaknesses in order to defeat someone who seems undefeatable.
>>337422293
gay
this is why books will always be better than video games
>>337422293
Because struggle and challenge bring reward and satisfaction.
Its not about having everything handed to you.
>>337421887
It's essentially the same thing, also usually requires you to do it 3 times to beat the boss.
>>337422229
I think Ninja Gaiden/DMC bosses were the best at this.
>Can wait until a attack to punish
>But have the mobility and tools to go in on the boss well dodging them at the same time and picking them apart.
Nowadays its either a boss is a total push over or a boss has hyper armor/is too fast and you get punished if your attack has too much recovery unless you punish a specific move.
>>337419346
>game has "battles" at all rather than "encounters"
>>337419346
Fucking kill yourself, I'm going to find you and eat you alive you cunt you fuck you cunt you shitty nigger FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU get raped, DIE. I'll piss in your mouth as I castrate you. FUCK YOU NIGGER NIGGER FAGGOT GO DIE BITCH CUNT HHFKDDKHASIDKXKIXIXOCCOOCCOXISIELELLE
>>337419346
>japanese bosses
>>337419346
>Boss has no HP bar.Mkay,let's give it a shot
>>337423579
>WHEN ARE YOU GONNA DIE GOD DAMN IT
>>337422098
Are there even any good western boss battles? Like significant ones that are meaningful and memorable, especially in the grand scope of video games? I can't think of a single one that would need to be included in a top 10 list, let alone a top 20
>>337423662
>Can't kill the boss unless you do a combo finisher on him
>Final boss battle is a QTE
>>337423901
list some "good" weeb boss battles and be ridiculed then faggot
>>337424192
This pissed me off so much in RE4
>Oh you messed up, lol start over
>>337424023
>can't kill the opponent unless you do a super
>its a fighting game
>>337424330
I was asking a legitimate question but I can see you don't even want to answer just shitpost, fine by me you sound pretty upset already. For the sake of holding a conversation fine I'll go first I guess. looking forward to your greentext replies
Metal Gear Solid games
Souls games
Castlevania games
>>337424023
>tfw difficult boss is literally 1 hit away from death,but guess what.the whole universe conspires against you at that specifically moment,so you can lose your shot
>>337424192
I had a bad taste in my mouth the entire time playing Dying Light. But then it just took a giant fucking shit down my throat with that crap.
>>337424836
MGS/Castlevania yes and there are a shit ton of other examples of good Japanese boss battles since they do them the best.
But holy crap if you look at Souls games they have a handful of good bosses in each game and then the rest are fucking god awful.
DeS had like 4 good bosses
DaS had a good chunk if you count the DLC otherwise like 5-7
DaS2 had nothing good in the main game and only like 3 good ones in the DLCs
BB has a bunch of solid bosses but everything else was what the fuck are they doing tier and the DLC was great
DaS3 has the same issue BB had with a bunch of good ones then ones like Ancient Wyvern and Yhorm
Souls games have better levels then they do bosses. Half the time it feels like you're making it past a challenging area just to earn the right to push over a wimp.
>>337424836
Dagoth Ur in Morrowind
Miraak in Skyrm
Freeze in Arkham City
A couple in GoW
Its a somewhat unfair comparison, because western dominated genres, such as FPS is usually less heavy users of boss-battles.
>>337425817
I forgot but I also wanted to mention Megaman and Shadow of the Colossus
And I think Ornstien and Smough are memorable and iconic to say the least
Again though, I actually can't think of western bosses
>>337419346
>The boss battle is a helicopter
>The boss battle is a QTE
>The boss battle is a dialogue wheel
>>337426097
Arkham games are a good pick for sure, and yeah I think GoW probably qualifies. Not sure about the Elder Scrolls though
>>337419346
Only casual newfags say that, you fucking smartphone arcade game cocksucker
>>337422424
What kinda books do you read where no one encounters any sort of obstacles at any time?
>boss fires you
>>337426282
Well it depends. Gameplay-wise the Dagoth ur fight isnt much to cheer over, but as far as iconic moments go, it ranks pretty high. At least for me personally. Miraak would be a pretty weak boss fight in a character action games, but considering the tools that Skyrim combat gives you it was a actually a very well thought out boss fight.
I havent finished Witcher 3 yet, might be some good ones still to come.
Again, western gamers are rarely centered around the classical boss encounters. One of my favorite games, STALKER, doesnt feature a single traditional boss, yet has some of the most tense and memorable moments of all games I've played
>boss kisses your cheek
>>337426097
I would say that some of the old Western platformers had good boss fights too.
Even If western games have some good villains, I can't recall a single boss fight that I could call outstanding.
But right off the bat I can name Dragon's Dogma' Dragon. Now that shit was tight
>>337426970
wat game
>>337427076
MGS4
>>337426650
>boss tells you you're getting over time in a lascivious voice while guiding your hand towards his genitals
>>337427172
i want to get into those games but to lazy
>>337420382
>japanese "games"
>>337427076
>Boss is really cool
>Arena where you fight the boss is simple, yet scenic and nice
>suddenly lightning clouds and shit starts hitting the fan
>Then boss goes down without much of a fight in 6 minutes
Video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r580S90NECo
>boss is a QTE
>>337428267
>boss is a QT
>>337423901
Dante's Inferno, the Darksiders games, and the God of War series had some good boss fights. But other than that, no.
>>337424192
>Halo 4
Nothing made me angrier.
>>337426156
I could name so many off the top of my head of games from Japan that make stellar boss battles. But only a handful for the West. It makes me upset that western games have become so fucking stale.
>>337428507
don't lie anon I played darksiders games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiCt0RJnJOc IT WAS SHIT
>>337424192
>Final boss is a QT
>final boss can't decide whether you should live or die
>>337428267
>Boss is a QTE and you're okay with this
>Game is a game
>>337421809
Isn't that the bare minimum for an enjoyable action game?
>>337419346
I didn't know what this shitpost was about but then I saw the billion doom threads.
>>337431161
Final boss loves you so much that it wants to kill you.
> The game has gameplay
Bosses are an outdated concept that needs to be discarded if gaming is to be taken seriously.
>>337427836
>movie games
>final boss asks you to make him a sandwich
>>337433158
>villains need to be discarded
>climaxes need to be discarded
bosses fulfill the role of climaxes in video games.
Not every game needs boss fights but action/rpgs only benefit from bosses.
>>337433310
Villains are inherently childish.
>boss is a qt girl who wrecks your shit
>Boss comes down from the top of tower to meet you, instead of you scaling the tower to meet him.
>>337433158
>gaming taken seriously
>>337433508
>antagonists are inherently childish
fuck off contrarian retard
>>337433158
I agree also, I think the gameplay aspect of vidya needs to be removed too. I think it were better if games are to be more narrative focused with more expository scenes. Like a movie perhaps, that's it! If games want to be taken seriously, they need less focus on gameplay and more focus on narrative.
>>337433508
Play better games.
>>337433281
>best song in the game only plays in a boss fight that's over in less than a minute
>>337433892
>narrative.
Keep in mind that it needs to be a socially exceptable narrative at that.
>>337419346
>game is too video gamey
>>337423901
All of the Ps2 character platformers had great boss fights.
>>337433921
NUMBERS
>1v2 boss fights
>>337421887
Man I'm so fed up those fights. I'd rather attack anywhere or at least let us break the whole armor and expose "glowing weakpoints" so we dont stick to the shitty ass weakpoint that only appears every 3 minutes
>>337433986
Exactly, a socially progressive plot is what I say is missing from many genres in today's culture. This can be seen in eastern game developers, where they lack in their social advancements; like the objectification/sexuslisation of women or the lack of inclusion of varying genders and ethnicities. We can use gaming as a medium to drive forward social progress in our society dominated by cis males. The overall theme of the story should even BE about change and acceptance/inclusion.
>It's a "Learn how to play the game or just stop fucking playing it" boss fight
>>337432970
>final boss is a yandere
>>337428267
>Boss uses his own QTEs against you
>He starts to fail them as you whoop his ass
>>337424192
im glad this meme has almost died. i think the last game i played with this was dying light, which they must have known that nobody liked that, because in the dlc they did a non qte boss
>>337427836
>western ''games''
I would love to see game were dodging or countering requires sequces to actually perform it.
Not just "Press X to dodge, press Y to counter"
>>337431820
I hate QTEs as much as the next guy, but don't tell me you didn't love every QTE in that game!
>>337426650
wew lad that's literally my life
>video game has forced gameplay
>Playing the harder difficulty doesn't result in different patterns
