Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to drop you into the final boss battle with 1 HP and have the boss immediately attack you? That's fucking artificial difficulty right there.
>>337414440
git gud
>>337414440
Attacks are easy to dodge though.
Literally git gud
Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to let retards play video games?
the escort peach thing in the desert place was so bullshit in this game
>>337414440
It was a good idea
Made things more tense
Unfortunately the series just became easier and easier to the point where it was nearly impossible to die.
>>337414440
That's just difficulty. All difficulty is artificial.
>>337414440
This is one of my favorite RPG games ever, my second favorite Mario RPG second only to PM TTYD. Although, anon, the attack at 1hp is easy to dodge iirc.
>>337414440
It didn't matter to me, I was so high in level that I one shotted everything just by jumping on it.
You can attack first if you are fast enough.
I beat this game when I was 8 and didn't have a full grasp of english
>>337414924
Totally agree. I tried playing Dream Team, I was falling the fuck asleep (kek). Even 5 hours in it was still shit. Goddamn I remember when video games were fun because they challenged you and left you alone to figure shit out instead of bombarding you with tutorials and handholding.
>>337414924
I remember PiT being more difficult though.
>>337415056
The badges that scaled your attack based on how many mushrooms you had was game breaking
>>337414924
Paper Jam is pretty hard compared to the others
>>337414440
G I T
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Bowser's Inside Story was fun, the Bowser parts more so than Mario/Luigi
Really should have made a standalone Bowser game
>>337415341
You needed four characters to die in that game, albeit using the babies to carry your older self was difficult and an interesting feature. I think that is why it was more difficult yet harder to get a gameover.
>>337414440
It was a good tactic against power levelers and shroom badge abusers that were shit at the game.
>>337414724
That part gave me soooooo much anxiety when I was younger
She walked so damn fast
>>337414440
If you couldn't dodge that shit with at least one bro you had no business having made it that far in the game in the first place.
>>337415979
>power levelers
enemies don't respawn, if you just killed everyone on screen you are a power leveler now?
>>337414924
>Unfortunately the series just became easier and easier to the point where it was nearly impossible to die.
But Bowser's Inside Story had the Challenge Medal which can up the game's difficulty.
Dream Team is the first and only Mario RPG with a Hard Mode option, and a lot of the bosses hit like trucks in that game.
Plus the whole Boss Gauntlet with Bowser X (Bowser's Inside Story) Antasma X (Dream Team), and Dry Bowser (Paper Jam) are legit hard foes.
>>337416167
Gotta love it when webcomics don't even make it subtle that they're desperate for you to make reaction images out of their panels
>>337415165
Paper Jam made a majority of the tutorials skippable now, and you can fastfoward text and scenes now with the R button.
>>337414724
I hated that part. Bitch stay still for 2 seconds, for fucks sake.
The ice castle was pretty neat. I remember liking that part.
>>337414924
just like every good game that gets and expansion or squeal
>>337416528
On top of that, Miyamoto was the one who suggested the Dash Socks and the "Make all Bros jump with one button" idea
Why did it take them 5 games to fix issues that plagued the series from the start?
>>337416110
>>337416548
You guys do know you could just hit her with the hammer to make her get stuck in the sand for a few seconds while you scouted ahead.
>>337414440
Literally get good at dodging.
>>337414924
Dude, Paper Jam and Dream Team are the hardest games in the series.
>>337414724
I didn't like it because the music affected my mood and made me grumpy. DOO-DEH-DOOT, DOO-DEH-DOOT, DOO-DEH-DOO-DEH DOO-DEH-DOOT. DOO-DEH-DOOT, DOO-DEH-DOOT, DOO-DEH-DOO-DEH DOO-DEH-DOOT.
>>337417150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMC3s0nS34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5f_qeC-bkI
>>337416874
Because Miyamoto gives everyone good ideas, and /v/ dumps on him for simply requesting that IS not rehash just once in their lives for Paper Mario. They fuck up hard, Miyamoto gets they blame.
>>337414924
Wasn't Partners in Time harder, though? I remember bosses having a metric fuckton of health.
>>337417259
God I can't understand how /v/ can be so up its own ass as to think SSS was harder than any of this.
>b-but if you use the easy mode functions they are easier!
No shit. If you use Nuts in any of the games they are easy as fuck.
>>337414924
SSS is easy though. I actually had more trouble with Paper Jam and DT than I did with SSS.
>>337416986
No I did not know that...
>>337414924
>Unfortunately the series just became easier and easier
>people actually thought Cackletta Soul's rotating arms and telegraphed colored orbs were hard
>one Bros. move can overkill a part of her
Mario & Luigi fans are fucking delusional
>>337417748Thats because I'm fucking with you
>>337417761
Just the nostalgiafags and anti-Nintendo boys. You can see that most of them are correcting that guy and pointing out that DT and PJ are both harder, and even PiT.
Trying to navigate the shitty layout of Joke's End was much harder than this
>>337414440
>she goes first
>she begins to spin her arms around
>not having the mushroom that healed health to full
>>337414440
I just started Superstar Saga a few days ago after never seeing anything about it or heard anything about it or played it since it came out.
FUCK YOU
GODDAMN
>>337420529
the game is like 12 years old, you got no one to blame but yourself faggot
I'ma huge fan of this series, and honestly one of the msot disappointing parts of it was that the Bros. never got more moves from learning more stuff out in the field, and even learning them in the middle of combat. Reducing them all to items just made it seem like the Bros. weren't good at what they did, they just had access to good stuff. That and some of the original Bro moves just looked more interesting. I've been kicking red koopa shells for 3 goddamn games, give me Choppa Bros. back, damn it.
>>337416331
There are people who won't know what to do at Joke's End and wander around
>>337416339
>Dream Team is the first and only Mario RPG with a Hard Mode option
Why didn't they give Paper Jam one? Why get rid of a good thing once you got it going?
>>337415065
/thread
>>337414440
If either bro has a higher speed stat then maybe they'd attack first
>>337418930
that's the easiest attack to dodge
>>337416548
>Liking Joke's End
You have issues, buddy
>>337424154
>Toadsworth goes trans
>>337424154
SSS is the only one with any originality to it what the fuck, shitendo??
SSS and PiT are the only M&L games I've played
Are the rest any good
>>337425375
dream team was a fucking bore
>>337414440
I beat it. Why can't you?
>>337425375
this is pretty much my pet series so all of them hold some merit in my opinion, but the handholding in Dream Team reaches ludicrous levels.
>>337415341
The final boss was tedious not hard
>>337416378
Which is so much worse than the people who straight up draw reaction images, right?
>>337425375
BIS is better than PiT but not as good as SSS in my opinion. Its worth playing. Dunno about the rest
>>337414440
At least the boss doesn't get to attack five times for every one attack you get, like Antasma.
>>337425375
They're all solid and competent. Dream Team's only real flaw is the amount of tutorial, but it's still good.
>>337426647
>Mario isn't facing the front in PiT
SOILED IT
>>337417961
son of a bitch
>>337414440
Just use a fucking gold mushroom you faggot.
>>337426647
Princess Shoob and Elder Princess Shoob did nothing wrong.
>>337425375
BiS is as good as SSS. Never played Dream Team, but Paper Jam has some serious flaws. The biggest for me is how nothing the story is; literally nothing happens for the entire game, it's a fucking bore. It's all 'walk towards point A, while stuff stops you.' Then when you reach point A, everyone says 'go to point B, quick!' And guess what happens when you get to point B? You go back to point A. It's tedious as shit.
The entire paper angle amounts to nothing as well, since you could remove the entire paper world and nothing would change.
And you have to continually collect paper toads for no apparent reason as well, which are all alike in every way.
It has some hard as shit boss fights though. And the new card system works pretty well, but you don't even get THAT until halfway through the game. Basically everything about the battles feels good, but there's no other positives.
Chuckolator was harder.
>>337425887
It wasn't that bad in the regular boss battles.
The giant battles were total shit because of that.
>boss where literally every attack is telegraphed and all you have to do is hit buttons in sequence
>artificial
Guess DDR is too hard for you too
>>337414924
Superstar Saga is the easiest in the series because of the Advanced Bros. moves.
>>337414924
nah
dream team and paper jam have problems but battle difficulty isn't one of them
whoever designs enemy attacks at alphadream has only gotten better over the years
>>337431520
How the fuck do you even get the advanced versions or pull them off
>>337414440
>not having high enough speed to go first
>>337432012
>get them
use a bros attack many times
>pull them off
go into slow mode of course
>>337417274
Miyamoto still made a bad call about the plot, but really plot seems to be the area where he's just least knowledgeable. Dude knows gameplay for the most part, as long as he doesn't get a say when writing the story everything's golden.
>>337432169
>Using slow mode
Mode 3 or bust.
>>337432169
>go into slow mode of course
They're not that hard to pull of at normal speed once you know what to press to do the Advanced version. The only one I had trouble with was the Swing Bros.
I remember I could do the Advanced Knockback Bros. pretty much infinitely.
>>337432614
>Swing Bros.
same, I've played ss a bunch of times but never stolen items from bosses with that
>>337416331
Enemies do respawn.
>>337427021
But Baby Mario is.
>>337431302
Some of Antasma's attacks were cheap as shit and practically impossible to dodge, nine times out of ten I'd waste my turn using one of the max candies that I had an infinite supply of.
That fight is one of the reasons why I never want to touch Dream Team again.
>Use Fire Bros. on the wrong arm and end up fully healing it
>when you get the Great Force
Don't mind me, just posting best boss in the series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrAYVhPU-9g
>>337438181
And also best (and cutest) Mario enemy
>>337432614
>Advanced Knockback Bros.
>Kill Bowletta in one turn
Felt better than sex
You know what was really fucking stupid?
How after Partners in Time, practically zero bosses had any unique music that wasn't final boss music.
I mean, Cackletta, Fawful, Popple, Bowser / Baby Bowser, Princess Shroob, they all got unique themes, even if the first two shared a theme.
The bosses have zero personality or charm when you can't pin them with a good battle song. This is why the Paper Mario series does so much better with that.
>>337440389
>no Popple battle with his theme in DT
Wasted opportunity.
>>337414440
I hate people like you. That shit was difficult but very satisfying to dodge all the attacks.
I went through dream team a bit and got bored. Now I'm playing paper Jam and I think it's better but It doesn't feel like paper mario should be there. The game seems pretty easy, especially now with battle cards wtf. Also bros attacks are still retarded item shit. The first one was perfect
>>337440389
Antasma technically got his own Boss theme in Dream Team. The final boss in Dream Team is not him. It'sDreamy Bowser.
Also amazing final boss theme for that game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elb6A7iT6P0
>>337443902
I hate what they've done with Bowser's fight themes in recent Mario RPG games
Why the fuck does he have generic orchestra. It makes no sense thematically.
>>337414932
Heretic.
