Is Perfect Dark really as great as it's made out to be?
>>337411302
Yes.
>>337411409
Okay, thanks. I'm gonna go play it.
>>337411409
This.
>>337411302
its great considering the hardware it was on.
and the game is LOADED with features.
This shit sucks.
>>337411302
Yes.
Yes
unbelievable amount of content
great campaign where changing the difficulty adds more objectives
campaign has both co-op AND counter-op options for every single mission
huge set of weapons, every single one of which is satisfying as fuck with great sound effects and punchy animation
even the fucking tutorial in this game is great
and that's not even counting the fucking multiplayer which is the meat of the game, with customizable teams and characters, and setting gimmicky AI patterns like making one of the CPUs do nothing but go around stealing weapons and not using them, or having one that only targets whoever the highest score.
game is a masterpieceand the best game in the genre
>>337413575
The AI in the missions is amazing as well. I can't believe it even works in co op.
>>337411302
It's the best FPS ever made.
>>337413724
This. Still hasn't been topped.
Its good but it aged like milk in the sahara
>>337413934
Has it really though?
>>337413369
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>>337414061
holy shit dat TECHNOLOGY
>>337414061
Yes its terrible in the reality we currently live in today,but at the time of release it was top notch shooty
Play the HD version on 360/XONE.
The 360 version is fucking great. I never played the N64 version past the second mission for some reason, though.
>>337414215
I can't believe this game just werks. It seems overly ambitious yet its fully functional.
>>337414334
Why though? Its not like framerates have improved (on consoles).
>>337414334
You're objectively wrong, show me a better shooter.
>you can't
>>337414450
Most if not all of the levels are trash anon and you know it.
>>337414710
DOOM 2016 says hell-o.
>>337414827
Yeah, okay. Have fun with that thought.
Considering Doom 3 is superior to Doom 2016, and Doom 3 is half as good as Perfect Dark; I'll take this as a casual shitpost
>>337414719
They aren't. The second mission (the one in not Blade Runner world) is one of the best levels in an FPS.
>>337414827
Todd please.
>>337415043
Have you played the retail version of DOOM? Because i think you havent as if you wouldnt be saying 3 is better than the new masterpiece just released DOOM 2016 improves on perfect shart in every aspect of game development sound, art, gameplay, a.i textures all better in DOOM 16 .
>>337415251
We get it, you work for Bethesda
>>337411302
It was good for its time but its aged fucking horribly. And the frame rate too, its too hard to go back to n64 games because the frame rate is like 15 for every game.
Only gays like perfect dark, its a shit game the way you move and aim is terrible only deluded faggots think otherwise
>>337415251
Do you even get min wage at the shithole shill company you work for?
>>337415482
>blaming the controls
Calm down DSP.
Perfect dark is a joke in the industry and with in the gaming community that its fanbase is homosexual and/or morbidly disabled
>>337416069
>shilling this hard
Only fat disabled homos like perfect dark, think about that
>>337415418
The 360 release runs at a consistent 60fps on 1080p.
>>337415418
If it's "too hard" to go back it means you were never there and therefore missed out you little faggot
>>337415615
>>337415190
>>337414450
>>337414061
>>337413703
>>337413369
Is there actually anymore TECHNOLOGY, or are you going to post more webms of the same fucking thing
>>337417773
They all demonstrate different behavior from the AI and unique animations. Here is the game they made three years prior for comparison.
>>337411302
It's perfect
post the link to the mouse injection thing
Was the HD remake worth getting or did they fuck it up?
>>337416069
Wow sonyponies really upset today.
I highly recommend the HD port of the original PD, but avoid PD Zero! The original is a masterpiece, while PD Zero is terrible.
I played golden eye a bit recently
Doesn't control as bad as I remember.
Perfect dark was always step ahead, but I love em both anyway.
>>337418927
The HD re-release on the 360 is actually decent
Framerate goes at 60 but not without drops during bigger explosions, and texture quality is overall improved
I think they reduced some of the shit you could do in the multiplayer character model customizer though
probably the best campaign of any FPS
>>337418927
they actually added the goldeneye guns to use in MP. the art direction is slightly different, but its very good
>>337411302
Its the game responsible for setting my standards so high.
Game is fantastic. Some serious love and attention was put into it, shame it was released at the end of the N64s life. Multiplayer with my buddies was honestly the most fun game experience I've ever had. So many weapons, nearly doubled since they have secondary functions. Shooting through walls with Farsights, mounting a turret with the Laptop Gun, remote controlling fucking rockets with the Slayer, grenades that could act like pinballs that bounce around the room, three different types of mines, the list seriously goes on. Also, some fantastic music that never got boring, despite playing sometimes several hour matches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMVcj-vIWug
>>337422780
Yeah, the two changes that come to mind was N-Bomb changed to N-Grenade, and the fact that you could no longer mix-and-match guy heads on girl bodies and vice versa, which was a shame because my character I always used was Secretary body with bearded Hispanic man face.
I remember playing when I was about 14 and running through certain missions probably 100+ times trying to beat them on the hardest difficulty.
In a way i dont play PFS games anymore because PD was top shelf in regards to difficulty, no regen or checkpoints. I REALLY miss that.
Multiplayer hours logged where well over 200 from what i remember, probably 60+ campaign on top of that.
Definitely get the re-release though. Game looks awesome after the reskin @ 60fps.
>>337421797
Eh. It was a good launch title, but took steps back from the original.
>>337424073
Pelagic II was a fucking bitch on Perfect Agent
Thank god for that glitch where you can activate the switch at the end with the goggles
You can't make accusations like that without evidence. I ashume that you have some?
Someone made a true M&K FPS mod for Perfect Dark emulation, and also had code for a Goldeneye MP with M&K FPS, been hoping he would come back and implement that same stuff for a PD MP
>>337425338
This is a recording of a meeting between Trent and the other conspirators.
>>337425725
Seems overwhelming. I'm in your hands. What do we do now?
>>337413575
Pretty much this.
Perfect Dark and Goldeneye set the standard for FPS.
It's pretty much the best party FPS after Timesplitters. Play the 360 version, it runs at a buttery 1080p/60fps
>>337411302
Yes, possibly best shooter ever, runs like shit though with 4 players and 6 bots.
>>337417048
This. Play it for 10 min and it's like normal again.
>>337411302
Why can't they make games like this anymore.
I hate this era, I want to go back.
cranking the multiplayer ai to max made the game truly difficult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-VcbNKYK50
Enemies in perfect dark (and goldeneye) move in bursts with small pauses in between. They fire, stop firing, pause, roll sideways and fire, stop firing, stand up, fire a burst, step sideways, fire another burst.
This is important because it makes it so their attacks can be predicted and dodged like in a melee action game. No other shooter has this, and not many people understand how unique this makes Perfect Dark. It has more focus on movement because auto aim was always a big factor in it.
>getting headshots with Crossbow/C.Knife
was there a better feeling?
>>337427498Shooting someone 10 rooms away with the Farsight.
>>337427498
sneaking up on the office workers and putting a bullet in them before they can react and blowing their brains out onto the computer monitors and watching their dead bodies slump onto the keyboard and watching the console on the display go sldf;sfdfljkkkkkkkkklllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
god damn its the little details in the game that made it fucking 10/10
>>337427338
It's back when gaming was still somewhat niche, now all the jocks and autistic 10 year olds want to be "gamers". It's damn shame really.
>>337427451
And DarkSims apparently used to be even more bullshit during development according to a former Rare dev
>http://www.rllmukforum.com/index.php?/topic/205252-perfect-dark-xbla/&page=16#comment-6364936
>I remember the Dark sims being unbelievably impossible to beat in early versions - they were only changed when Tim Stamper himself caught one on tape - it was at the end of a corridor then Tim died. Checking the VHS (aaah good old days.. eeewww) and finding the sim was weilding a rocket launcher and strafed out into sight for a single frame, fired and ducked back. The team changed it to make it "more possible" the next version
I keep forgetting what their gimmick was over PerfectSims, who already haveperfectmap awareness.
>>337427860
i thought dark sims were supposed to emulate how twitchy and unpredictable a 10 year old jacked up on pixie sticks and mt dew could be.
>>337427979
And people say bots are always easier than humans..........
>>337427860
iirc perfect sims behaved like a really good human player.
Darksims outright cheated. They could fire handguns as fast as submachine guns. They always had perfect accuracy, and I heard rumors that they could teleport as well if you didn't have the little map on the corner of the screen.
>>337411302
Probably the best console GPS ever.
Name another with so many multiplayer options.
The XBox 360 version was really nice, they shilled the shit out of it here, though
>>337428212
TimeSplitters which was made by the same people anyway, and possibly Red Faction 2 are all I can think of.
>>337428167
I kept hearing about the teleportation rumors as well, but never got to verifying it.
PerfectSims did have very good map awareness, in the challenge set in the Facility stage the guy could hunt you down to where you respawned if he killed you and there's no radar either, he'd always go for the shield once it spawned too. There's a video somewhere where he waits out an explosion before entering a room.
>>337427451
Well, that's horrifying.
>>337427738
someone make a webm
WHY
ME
>>337428638
I DONT WANNA DIE
>>337428146
nope, i had a way easier time playing against friends than the bots.
>>337428167
make it fist sim with dark sim difficulty = gang raped in a corner by sims that could run 5x your top speed and 1 hit kill you.
make it peace sim with dark sim difficulty = where the fuck did my gun go, and why cant i see anything?
>>337428503
it gets worse, speed sim with dark difficulty.
>>337428735
GET HER
>>337427451
Dark Sims are complete nonsense though. They spawn with every single weapon (or doubles of them) on the map and strafe at a ridiculous speed. It's hard in the way that RTS AI is hard because they just cheat.
>>337428810
INTRUDER ALERT
>>337429176
MY GUN!
>>337429247
I DON'T BELIEVE IT
>>337427860
I want to see this
Guys, what if Playtonic (Rareware 2.0) makes a successor to Perfect Dark? Will we finally get the FPS we wanted?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B--6j-I5JlQ
>>337429705
Guess I can't wait for Flawed Light, then.
>>337411302
It's better than Goldeneye 007.
>>337429997
>exploding bullets alt-fire
>that reload
god, Maian weapons were fucking awesome.
>>337428765
Exactly, theres no excuse for games today to not have bots.
>>337429705
I thought Free Radical were the former rare team that did PD. I know they were bought by Crytec but i haven't heard anything about them since.
>>337430329
I think you're right. I forgot there was more than 1 Rare team.
>>337430256
Perfect Dark had some great reload animations at the time
Too bad TS2 didn't really have any
>>337430329
I know they were working on that Homefront sequel, but I forget if they dissolved at some point due to Crytek's money woes.
>>337430261
hell, there is no excuse for games today to not have even a 10th of the shit that perfect dark featured.
>>337430714
But then they'd have to spend millions on devs instead of tens of millions on the marketing teams hookers and blow bribery fund
>>337429841
>Flawed Light
Took me a while to get it.
You shouldn't have come here girl
>>337431132
but good games sell on their own well before marketing has anything to do with itexample, minecraft
>>337416263
Are you a 15 year old from the 90s?
>>337429997
>>337431132
No, it's a half marketing, half AAA graphics split these days
>>337424445
I find Pelagic II to be one of the easier of the later levels, even without the glitch. Probably because the enemies aren't armored.
Area51: Infiltration and Carrington Institute really fuck my shit up hardcore though.
>>337431971
Carrington Institute is my favorite level, getting to revisit an important location from early in the game in a completely new context is the fucking best in games, especially when its your home base.
>>337431971
pelagic II i also found to be a fucking cake walk, if you were careful.
just headshot through the glass all day err day, nobody saw shit coming.
>oh my god, hes dead
*pew*
>what happened
*pew*
>sound the ala
*pew*
>nooooooooo
*pew*
>>337431971
The bonus level where you play as Elvis was hard as fuck. You don't even start at full health if I remember correctly.
>>337421797
Is the HD remaster exactly the same as the original? My friend played PD Zero, and he really hated it, but playing multiplayer PD64 is suffering.
>>337432207
All the bonus levels were hard as fuck. I miss when bonus secret levels were a thing in big budget games.
>>337432213
Its mostly the same, a couple cosmetic changes here and there but nothing significant. Its an upgrade in almost every way.
>>337429291
YOU BITCH!
>>337432279
Bonus levels are now DLC and are no more challenging than the normal levels.
>>337432445
WE'VE GOT A CONTACT
>>337433690
ITS A SPY
It was great fun in it's time :)
>>337432213
It plays at 60 FPS on 1080p! That should be good reason enough to play it.
They didn't really butcher anything but the silly multiplayer model combos. They made the Goldeneye weapons usable in multiplayer though.
>>337433790
>>337432345
It sounds amazing. I assume it still has splitscreen co-op right?
>>337433914
yep
>>337433914
Still has co-operative and counter-operative. Never bothered with the online though, so I don't know if that also includes the features outside combat simulator.
>>337433914
You probably won't like Joanna's new model, I know I don't but its a small sacrifice to make in return for the game not running like garbage.
>>337413575
this.
perfect dark is still to this day the best FPS ever made
>>337433983
Welp, I guess I gotta buy an xbox 360 then. I still replay the campaign of PD64 with a friend of mine over and over almost monthly. He constantly bitches about the terrible graphics and framerate, and kept wishing that there'd be an HD remake.
I think he even had an xbox 360, so I don't know how he doesn't know about this. Thanks guys.
>>337411302
It's good, but it was outdone by Timesplittersand most PC shooters that were out at the time
>>337433790
>They made the Goldeneye weapons usable in multiplayer though.
I'm assuming they did this because they were also making a Goldeneye HD to release alongside it, but it got canceled because of rights issues, so they just shoved the guns into PD's MP to have something at least
>>337434295
Xbone's rare collection has the 360 remaster of PD as well.
I could rock anybody ITT at multi-player.
>>337434393
Also good to know, thanks.
>>337411302
It is the sequel to goldeneye. They actually had the whole thing finished, then lost the ip rights, so they reskined it.
>>337434295
Your friend sounds awful
>>337411302
I have an N64 with it, but how's the HD release on the 360?
>>337435014
I probably misrepresented there. It's his N64, and I bitch about the framerate too (in multiplayer, some levels like Villa go down to around 12 fps). I'll probably split the cost of a 360 with him, so we can keep up our perfect agent runs.
>>337435014
Friends are flawed people too
Be too picky and you'll be '>tfw no friend'
You'll possibly go full degenerate and start posting in Steam threads, and become a ERPer.
>>337427451
Use to do this with friends as a kid add max amount of bots with highest difficulty and see who'd get the most kills.
>>337432083
>getting to revisit an important location from early in the game in a completely new context is the fucking best in games, especially when its your home base
Agreed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJUsOP0T1o
>>337411302
It was damn good, but it aged like milk.
>>337434393
>Rare Replay has it too
I don't think I could justify buying an Xbone ever, though this is nice to know
