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>"In the case of video games, this is harder to identify,
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>"In the case of video games, this is harder to identify, because they have on the whole not really changed much in the last few decades. If you think E.T. for the Atari is any different from Overwatch, you're the wrongest wronger who ever wronged. If you haven't been keeping up, just imagine that every big band is Guns N' Roses and every big album coming out is a single of "November Rain." You can only shoot a guy in the face so many times, in so many countries, in so many time periods, and in so many dimensions while Slash plays a wicked guitar solo before shooting one guy in the face is just like shooting every other guy in the face."

What did Cracked mean by this?
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>If you think E.T. for the Atari is any different from Overwatch

stopped reading there, this is obvious clickbait from a desperate website trying to stay relevant
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"Please give us clicks.
Please talk about our articles.
Please pay attention to us, guys.
Please."
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>>337380896
he's a fucking morons that makes comparisons that doesn't make sense

"only thing slash did was play guitar, over and over, music fans are retarded"
see? everyone can do it
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>>337380896
How does this artist manage to embody the very nature of condescension?
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>>337380896
>"Before reading on and concluding that I'm just some guy from the internet weighing in with a bunch of half-formed opinions formulated over a bottle of gin and hard boiled eggs for one in a dingy studio apartment: I'm an entertainment journalist who has spent countless hours over the last year and a half essentially giving the game industry therapy, having about 200 conversations so far on how and why video games are losing and frustrating people. These aren't only my opinions. They're also yours. I'm like the Lorax; I speak for the trees ... if the trees had spent the last few years honing their GTA skills."

Watch out, guys, he's one of us!
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>>337381569
If he doesn't do that, he's busy writing novels.
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>>337381807
>"Rather than empowering their teams' creativity and ensuring that everybody has health insurance, CEOs and producers are choosing instead to practice Slash's soloing and remeasure his top hat size for the next sequel. Since game companies largely communicate with their audiences via tightfisted marketing points, this has created a dynamic whereby consumers think they know "better" about how a game should have turned out, or its ending, or the entire series in hindsight. They spent $60 and have no experience making video games, but they've read about it through marketing, so listen up, companies! First we tackle why Call Of Duty is as fun to play with as old man balls, and then we work on the healthcare system. But what a lot of people issuing condescending and entitled mandates don't realize is that they are making declarations while absolving themselves from the personal responsibility mature adults demonstrate when they feel dissatisfied. To be fair, if you haven't grown up with video games, the landscape seems daunting, full of cliques, and impossible to navigate for a foothold. There are no olive branches; just burnt twigs people have been using to poke poo. The websites have intimidating, foreign-sounding names like Kotaku and Destructoid or The Lusty Hedgehog's Lament, and their vocabularies make no concessions to newcomers. Compare this to trying to get into indie music, which is relatively easy: Pitchfork, many MP3 blogs, and even Rolling Stone have shifted their coverage, and that's in an ecosystem in which Arcade Fire won a Grammy when mass market folks didn't even know who they were. We know who they are, though. The thing that they do is just the tops."

We're all defending Cowadooty, he GETS us.
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>>337381807
>i talk about people playing video games instead of playing video games
>somehow, I don't like video games anymore
is that /v/
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>>337381980

Sorry about that wall of text, I don't want to link the article, but don't want you guys to miss out on the enraging bits.

>"If you grew up playing video games, sooner or later you have an epiphany: "This isn't going to make me look at my life any differently." Video game culture has a deep foundation of insecurity, and this manifests in many ways. For example, many maintain that the mark of a truly significant and worthwhile video game is whether it made its player cry. This is, in a word, stupid. Like, remarkably stupid. "Forrest Gump sniffing glue after a concussion" stupid."

>"As video games attempt to assert themselves as a worthwhile method of creative expression, they are struggling to do so effectively. Many industry series, like Fallout or BioShock, draw heavy inspiration from films, but seem to be recreations of action movies as explained to them via a game of telephone a week or two afterward by a kid abusing Ritalin and Monster. This is not to say that people who make video games don't understand how other mediums work and how to integrate what they learn, but we don't get to see that by the time it's been project-managed, market-tested, focus-grouped, and finger-blasted by GameStop executives for critical feedback on how they think their audience will feel about what they're being shown based on early, formative stages. These are the meticulous sneeze guards that protect an industry's audience from seeing different experiences, meaningful stories, and relatable characters."
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>>337382391
>This isn't going to make me look at my life any differently.
yeah, because people watch movies, read books and listen to music to perfect their professional career and personal enlightenment
>These are the meticulous sneeze guards that protect an industry's audience from seeing different experiences, meaningful stories, and relatable characters."
hollywood blockbusters doesn't exist, the music industry doesn't exist, only video games are repetitive cash grabbing mass produced entertainment

I'm struggling to understand it's not satire
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>>337380896
>video games are for fucking babies

>video games are DEEP AND SHIT FOR ADULTS

Which is it faggot?
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>>337383186
kek good catch.

This artist is a fucking fraud. Videogames are too mainstream now so he has to shit on them. Back when people were shitting on games he claimed they're art.
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>"We can't say that video games are just for kids anymore, because that wasn't true in the first place. The generation we said that about have kids of their own now. But when you look out across the internet, you rarely see adults and human beings with emotional depth, unless you know exactly where to look. You hear reports of internet terrorists trying to prove their virility self-congratulating themselves, and rightfully wonder, "What the hell does this have to do with video games? Is this one of them prank videos from the YouTubes?""

>"What largely has not changed are the types of games which major companies put onto store shelves. Criticizing violence in video games typically gets you labeled a prude, but within most gaming communities, there remains in 2016 a lack of widespread acknowledgment that maybe it's getting boring to do the same things over and over. Ask anyone grinding toward a new mount or sword or armored bra in World Of Warcraft."

>"Thanks to the internet and how it brings extreme minorities together, the "wrong" kinds of people into the "wrong" kinds of games can find themselves receiving death and rape threats just because they're curious about Firewatch or Undertale, neither of which are pornos or even euphemisms. Other sure ways to get ostracized including being someone who is enthused about video games that explore relatable topics like depression or social anxiety, or someone who just isn't "good enough" skill-wise at the "right" games. If none of that makes sense to you, pat yourself on the back, because you still have a soul."
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>>337383828
>Criticizing violence in video games typically gets you labeled a prude

I hate how a lot of people think that a game without conflict or violence will be engaging in the slightest.
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>>337383828
>"And somewhere around 8 p.m. on a weekday night in the dark on a couch, when you are playing a video game that has you drag a giant sword behind you who talks to you in a robot voice, you will have this epiphany: "This isn't helping me look at my life any differently." Not that this alone is inherently bad. Both adults and video games fail to recognize that play and turning off your brain is a valuable, even necessary part of life. But it's also kind of like eating cheeseburgers. You reach a point where you realize that maybe you want to try sushi or vegetables. And by the time you've read some profound books or heard some great albums or read some amazing graphic novels or seen some solid movies, you can reasonably conclude: "I could have been getting laid instead of beating Kingdom Hearts. I've wasted my life." That most video games that do try do something different rarely make money and get ridiculed for even existing only makes all this worse."

Are you ashamed yet, only eating burgers, /v/?
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>>337384151
Plenty of games without violence can be engaging and fun, see animal crossing, harvest moon, paper's please, etc.
Violence is still fun as fuck though.
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>>337384151
As much as I disagree with the author of the article, the amount if conflict in a game is not indicative of its fun and we shouldn't narrow games to that.
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>>337383449

I wonder, has the artist actually stated that these are there opinions? They're probably just commissioned to shit these out.
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>>337385493
The artist is the author
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>>337380896
It's not that important what a video game is about, since it's a game. How it plays is all it needs.
On the other hand, it can be about anything at all, the only defining thing is interactivity
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>>337381980
>Video games should be made for people who don't like video games!
To keep in line with his music analogues, this is like saying that all music should be radio friendly pop
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>indie game devs and their coattail riding critics who both never have ever made anything of value and would never make it in any other medium are starting to get discouraged with video games because nobody is praising them as heralds of a new age

Good riddance.
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