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>infinite replayability >requires thinking >immune
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>infinite replayability
>requires thinking
>immune to SJW bullshit
>women stay away from the genre

So why are you not part of the Grand Strategy/Wargame masterrace?
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>>337374115
>women stay away from the genre
>Implying that's good
>Not wanting to wage a fucking war versus your wife
Pleb taste.
Also a good, albeit slow as fuck, way to settle disputes over monetary issues.
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Anyone played War in The West or Pacific? I have War in the east and enjoy its autism, but I heard West has better mechanics.
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Paradox is fucking cucked though
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>>337374996
wahh wahh wahh, it's a shit free pandering DLC and that's about it. Just deactivate it, it's so fucking nonconsequential dude.
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>>337375421
They still took the time to make it
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>>337374896
I tried War in the East but the amount of details scared me.
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Because I am bad at it.
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>>33737432
Wouldnt that take hours though?
>really dear, that's how you want to take Silesia?
>yeah, and in fact that's how I plan to take Burgundy as well
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>>337374896
Havn't played West yet, but i've heard similar things in terms of mechanics. Also
>311 page manual
damn
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>>337376083
Then git gud
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Next time Slitherine has a sale, what should I pick up? Revolution Under Siege looks cool same with Wars of Napoopan, but the reviews say that the game crashes a lot.
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Is Revolution Under Siege good?
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>>337377506
Pike & Shot : Campaigns
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>>337374115
>>immune to SJW bullshit


>meanwhile the black king of ireland
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>>337378350
seconded, Pike & Shot is awesome
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>>337374115
Because tactical games deliver immediate and longer lasting satisfaction.

Finishing a grand strategy game always leaves me feeling like I just wasted a week of my life.
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>>337374115
Because it's the most neckbeard genre possible.
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>>337378350
already have that along with Armageddon, panzer corp +dlc, WITE, and Order of Battle.

https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/slitherine-bundle
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>>337374115

I wish i could learn how to play some of these games, but they're so fucking complicated that after a whole day of work it makes me feel like i have to apply myself and honestly after a day of work i don't want that, nor do i have the time.

Most of i could get at was eu 3.
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>>337374115
why are you scared of women
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>>337379183
they were made from adam's rib, and are deceivers by nature
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Which are some good wargames to get in the genre?
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>>337378813
Neck beards play games that require "skill" esports, dark souls.. etc.

Adults and retirees play grand strategy.
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>>337379309
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>>337379183
we're not scared, they just never know when to shut up and refuse to be told
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>>337374115
I dont play such casual trash as im part of the PS4 master race. PC gamers belong on reddit im sick of seeing those of you who are below me on my board. Have fun with psrseona 5 and blood born

go to r/pcmasterace im sick of you elitist pricks on my board
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I already play some super hardcore/indepth Grand Strategies like EU4.
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why is EU4 easier than civ 5 diety.
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>>337379183
Not him (as I dont play on pc) but women are beneath me I am part of the true elite with the best taste in games
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>>337379425
Pike and Shot Campaigns, Unity of Command, and Panzer corp (the grand campaign) is pretty good. The games are niche so they are expensive, so I would recommend pirating or waiting for a rare sale for them. The grand Campaign is pretty cool in that you build an army over the whole 39-45 war with a few somewhat ahistorical scenarios like assualting dunkirk or breaking through at Kursk.
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>>337379425
It depends what you like and how much you're willing to put into it.

Most people start with Crusader Kings 2 or Europa Universalis. Then you can move up to dryer wargames like pic related.
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>>337380538
Even if its a bit dumbed down, I cant wait for hoi 4.
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>>337379893
t.Johan "Pls buy Stellaris" Andersson
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>>337379183
Women ruin men's communities
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>>337380928
I'm just disappointed that there weren't any good total conversion mods for HOI 3.

NWO for Darkest Hour is pretty damn fun.
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>>337383587
HOI4 will probably have more mods considering its more steamlined.
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>>337380098
>>337379871
Holy fucking shit your ego
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>>337374115
>gamergaters so desperate for a NO GIRLS ALLOWED niche they forsake all good games to jerk themselves off over thinking they're LOGICAL TACTICIAN GENIUSES in grand strategy games that are basically glorified spreadsheets
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>>337375504
>I'm afraid of powerful women: the post
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>>337382371
>implying Videogames, or any vein of entertainment for that matter, is a "men's community"
You never owned it, just pretended like you did to make yourselves feel important and giving you a domain where you could exclude people
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>>337375504
Yeah, but much about everything else "belongs" to males

This DLC isn't made to cater to female audience, it's made for accuracy
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>>337374115
>>immune to SJW bullshit
Oh yeah, using the Imperial flag instead of the Swastikas, and changing Hitler's picture so it look like he is supposed to be a surprise reveal of a villain in an Anime is totally not because of that bullshit.
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>>337374115
>has always been fascinated by both history and geographical maps
>has never played a single grand strategy ever
What are some good entry level titles?
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>>337386567
E U I V
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>>337385982
>>337386105
>>337386115
Somebody got triggered
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>>337386567
>>337386771
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Darkest Hour

CK2 is also really easy to get into, but that is more about simulating cucking your sons.
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>>337379183
I'm not afraid of women.

THEY'RE AFRAID OF ME!
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>>337386237
They need to remove the swastikas to sell their games in German lands

>and changing Hitler's picture so it look like he is supposed to be a surprise reveal of a villain in an Anime

Wat
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>>337386905
Why are they trying to arrest that kang?
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>>337387112
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>>337374115
I don't have autism
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>>337388307

What? They didn't put Hitler into HoI4?
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>>337388509
German version only apparently, but they have been streaming that version only from what I have seen.
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>>337388731
>German version only

But in the german version of Hearts of Iron 3 there was Hitler just no Swastika.
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Because I don't have a form of clinical autism
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>>337374115
>i'm playing as großgermany again mom!
don't you autists ever get tired of rp'ing losers?
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>>337389061
t.commie autist
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>>337388969
game companies these days are trying to shield themselves from any potential sources of offended people, so they take measures like that pre-emptively

Knowing Paradox games, it will probably take you 10 seconds to put the Nazi flag and Hitler in, so I don't really think it's that big of a problem. Paradox games are like play-dough, if you don't like what came out of the package you can mould it into something you'd enjoy more.
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>>337389274
>implying the commies didn't also lose
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>>337388307
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>>337388969
Hearts of Iron 3 had photographs of Hitler. HoI4 uses, by the looks of it, painted/drawn portraits.
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TOAW3 best wargame.
Paracucks go home.
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>>337388307
>no Nazi flag

Cucks.
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>>337390519
So how did it end?
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>>337391134
It was most definitely a win for the Axis. Not my gif tbqh.
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>>337391289
Budapest looks pretty fucked here famzilla
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>>337374115
>women stay away from the genre

No, GS and 4x games are my favorite games.
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>>337374115
The amount of time needed is pretty daunting for some of the games. Unfortunately I pirated War in the East and it likes to crash constantly.

>>337391460
Post tits.
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>>337374115

Because it's no Total War, son. Specifically Rome and Medieval 2

>there will never be a ck2/medi2 crossover
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>>337374115
I don't play video games based on what other people like or dislike.
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>>337391460
>she
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I wish someone would make an RTS/Grand Strategy combo. Like Age of Empires crossed with Supreme Commander but bigger. And with noncombat elements.
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I never played a wargame / grand strategy. The closest was 4X, civ to be specific.

How should i get into this genre?
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Can anyone recommend any good wargames with lots of tanks? How is Steel Panthers?
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Try Commander: The Great War everyone
>>337392527
Try Europa Universalis or crusader kings 2. It's kinda easy to get into and it's a hell of a lot of fun
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>>337393074
Panzer Corps has something ridiculous like 500 units and a lot of them are tanks from different nations and different periods of the war.
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I just don't enjoy playing them. I spend my time looking at a map and doing fuckall except looking at minimaps and menus. Then you have to get into the slow as fuck gameplay and learn how to play it which takes a fucking while since they usually have a shit ton of options which sounds cool but it's really overwhelming to someone that's just starting. And that's it really, I can't be assed to spend time learning a videogame from scratch like I did when I was a kid.
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>>337393276
This is about exactly what I was looking for from the gameplay footage I looked up, danke.
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>>337391289
Is TOAW4 coming out soon?
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Anyone got a safe place to download niche games like these?
There are a few games I want but not buying until they're on sale and would like to play them now
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4X and Grands fail for me, because I feel like once you've learned how to play one, you played them all. Tweaks and flavour changes, but once you understand inner mechanics the game instantly turns into dull shit. To a certain degree this is fair to all genres, but things like RPGs and Action games also provide stronger context, like stories, level designs, dialogies, RTS strategies provide dynamic change in situation, turn-based strategies have none of it
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>>337394456
>RTS
>replay the same maps over and over
>tactics are obviously limited
>don't have complexity since its basically a challenge at who is the faster at clicking
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>>337379183

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/09/real_men_want_to_drink_guinnes.html


"Hold on. You're saying that Guinness assumes if I like this ad I'm like, a... loser?" Yes. Or a girl. Tagline:

Dedication.

Loyalty.

Friendship.


I'm sorry, is this an ad for beer or golden retrievers? Why not "good nutrition" or "isn't always yapping about her frenemies"? Just because the guy saying them sounds like a man doesn't mean these words are branding for men. Usually "male" values are the things you have to teach or encourage people to do, like bravery, or sacrifice, or stoicism, where the default, the easier thing, is to not do those things. Dedication and friendship don't code for men, they are too basic for men, they code simply for person, although women get associated with them because... not much more is expected of women. For whatever reason society has made the observation that women seem to be worse at friendship then men, and that reason is called TV, way to set the bar really really low, Shonda. "You're... my... person." It's not that these values are inferior, it's that you can't imagine someone else needs to praise them-- or that any person alive or dead would feel good about themselves for having them-- or would seek to be described this way. "I'm a good friend." Of course you are, there's no sacrifice involved, plus it gives you someone to talk at. This Guinness ad is for the demographic that aspires to positive experiences and pretend challenges buried in rhetorical cover so to avoid the guilt about its meaninglessness. "The cedar roasted asparagus has good chew. I don't know how to enjoy it, so I'll Instagram it."
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>>337394456
>turn-based strategies have none of it
they're called mods bruh
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>>337395246
>the only RTS games in existence are Starcraft and Warcraft
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>>337379871
>>337380098
Take off your fedora
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Is hearts of iron 4 any good
Loved 3 but I don't think 4 is worth it
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>>337396240
HOI 4 didn't come out yet
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>>337393717
Knowing Matrix I doubt it'll be here soon. I'm curious as to what changes they'll make though, I enjoy TOAW 3 and besides UI stuff I can't think of what else I would do.

If anyone needs to update their games it's fucking John Tiller, god his shit is clunky to play.
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>>337396240
As someone who's been playing HoI since 2, I see some really good changes with 4, enough to hesitantly think it'll be a better game then 3. At least I hope it'll be good considering how many times they pushed back the release date.
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>>337393719
cs.rin.ru
Piratebay
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