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Why can't this nigger dodge?
>OK buddy, there's the attack animation, time to dodge!
>*yawns*
>*rubs eyes*
>"so i gotta dodge now or somfink?"
>gets hit
Isn't this like the 4th time they made this game? Wouldn't they have figured out how to make responsive controls by now?
>>337320878
>fail to dodge properly
>cry and post on 4chan telling everyone it's the game's fault and not your own inadequacy
He never does 'le epic visceral counter' either. Should I just return this or...
>>337321143
>enemy starts attack
>I hit dodge
>enemy hits me
>this is my fault somehow
troll harder
>>337321227
The older you get the worse your reflexes becomes....
>>337321227
>timing
>>337320878
Go outside and grab two 25 pound logs and try to roll around in traffic then mr dodge master.
>>337321320
I'm not old. I can break any decent action game over my knee. This shit is just poorly coded with attacks that can't be cancelled and input delay on the roll because the game needs a minute to figure out if you're trying to roll or run.
It's especially retarded because they could just put run/jump to L3 or X. You never have to jump anyways.
>>337320878
*teleports behind you*
heh.......
*unzips katana*
*slices you in half*
...too...easy......
>>337321438
Oh so we're using MUH REALISM argument now? Because if we're being realistic I should be able to fucking cancel my attack animations. Go sit in the corner, cunt.
>>337321227
>what is timing
>what is hitbox
>artifical difficulty
>hurr durr
>>337321469
I'm almost a wizard and I played BB as my fist Souls/Souls-like game, and the only actual bullshit bosses in the game are Ludwig's first phase and Amelia.
Just play more and DONT GET GREEDY.
>>337321586
My timing's perfect. Hitboxes shouldn't matter since I never even get to roll after hitting the button.
And yes, this is artificial difficulty. Bad controls is artificial difficulty, welcome to game design 101.
>>337321573
No faggot. You want to be all super critical about it. Go try it yourself. I bet you get wreck in 10 seconds flat.
>>337321751
if you're getting hit, your timing isn't perfect
>>337321227
You're saying that you were pressing buttons and there was nothing you could do?
>>337321825
I can fucking see the input delay. Play the game, shitlord. I'm here asking people who've played the game if it's worth my time.
>>337321751
What are you even talking about? I got over 200 hours in game and NEVER did I have any problems with controls response EVER.
This is either the lamest fucking excuse for being bad or you need to fix your controllers, mate
Seriously
>>337321896
No, I'M doing plenty. My character isn't moving in response.
>>337320878
HAHAHAHAHAHSHAHSHAHS GO BACK TO WOW SO YOU CAN CANCEL YOUR ATTACKS AGAIN HAHAHAGAGAGSHAHSHA
Every enemy's attack is telegraphed for days. You are the one not paying attention.
>>337321469
Are u ok?
>>337322024
Ah. I guess it's just a bugged dodging mechanic then.
>>337320878
get a monitor with less display latency
>>337321143
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>>337321825
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>>337322120
So are soulsfags legitimately retarded? Or is this just neo-/v/?
>>337321629
Amelia is probably one of the easiest bosses
>>337321751
>My timing is perfect
>still can't dodge 1 attack
I guess everyone who made
progress in the game just lucked out with the timing
>>337321942
beat the game 2 days after it released, senpai. bloodborne has the most forgiving rolls of any game in the series
>>337322250
Maybe its just me then.
Every time I play though I always get wrecked by her. I had way less trouble with Orphan, felt like a really fair fight.
>>337322346
More forgiving than dark souls 3? Because those rolls are also really forgiving
>>337322232
What's your body fat percentage?
>>337320878
I gotta say, that's pretty weak son.
After beating all the souls games, BB was the one I liked so much I actually WANTED to go back and run NG+1.
This game was fantastic, and every run made that blood-starved beast easier and easier.
>>337322440
Low, always been skinny. Why?
Dodging in BB was easy as fuck. Just learn to identify enemy attacks so you know which direction to dodge.
>>337320878
because the game is designed for mass audiences first and foremost and they can't into fast action
that's why the action is deliberately slowed down to give time for even the most slow 360 kiddies to react
>>337322596
Mm, maybe give it another shot. Guess it's just all about MUH GUN PARRY for any attack faster than a snail riding a turtle's back then?
>>337321227
Dude, that's bullshit.
Dodging in BB is so much easier and faster than in any Souls game. How can you fuck that up?
>>337322436
yeah. bloodborne's rolls have less recovery time, more i frames, and cost less stamina than in ds3
>>337322729
Look man I ONLY used that fucking axe. It was literally perfect for my playstyle. It makes or breaks your game. What build and weapon are you using?
>>337322738
Because it's shit. I hit button, character doesn't move. This is why most games made by competent designers have dash/jump bound to X or L3.
>>337322649
Ahh thought obesity might have slowed your fingers down. Sounds like it's just autism then
>>337322825
How can everyone else do fine while you fail to do so? Is your controller shit?
GIT
U
D
>>337322821
Took saw and blunderbuss. Actually thought that a big gun would do hefty damage, silly old me.
>>337321629
Still on my first playthrough of BB, which is my first soulsborne. Amelia was easy af, I died to her like two or three times, and never didn't get her down to at least half health first.
>>337322868
Nope, just multitasking. I got this thing called a life kiddo, should try it sometime.
>>337322436
>>337322346
>>337321751
Do you guys not use the lock on quick step dodge?
>>337322901
It's not the controller, it's the input delay. Guess you just have to get used to it, but it still feels like playing a shitty action game from the 90s.
>>337322942
Do you like to hit heavy? The axe might be more your speed. It's a little slow but its got rhythm.
And if you aren't too far in yeah restart and pick the pistol, you're doing yourself a favor.
The bus is definitely for experienced climbers.
You DO realize that you can quickstep when locked on, right?
>>337322729
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>>337321942
>>337321751
Dude, no offense, but you sound like a huge faggot. Literally everybody else played the same fucking version of the same fucking game and none of them had "response problems".
You're like those cod kids who blame their lack of expertise on lag\fps drops\broken reg\moms called
Just shut the fuck up and play the game
I don't understand how people are bad at these games. Your Dodge literally has a billion I-frames. Press it earlier. Holy shit, just quit.
Every game isn't for everyone. It's OK to be shit at this one. Go play Assassins Creed or some Batman game.
>>337320878
Woooooooooow dude. Fucking bugged controls, did they even play test this shitty game?
>>337323062
I use it when the lock-on decides not to go apeshit, yes.
OP, you might have serious input lag issues. Please try switching off image enhancements options (post-processing, smoothness, so on) and switch to gaming mode.
Some attacks require you to dodge early and some attacks require you to delay dodge because these attacks track your roll and will hit you out of dodge recovery if you fuck up. Look for visual clues.
And of course use your i-frames to roll into attacks, not out.
Also you have roll and step dash. Both are useful.
And don't get greedy when punishing unsafe attacks.
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>>337323157
The input delay is fucking PERCEPTIBLE BY THE HUMAN EYE. You clearly haven't played any decent action game or fighting game. AKA you clearly haven't played any real game. Get out niggers.
>>337323105
Man, I don't experience any inpit delay myself, but hey. I urge ya to keep trying. You might like it once you get a hang of the timing.
>>337323298
It kind of sounds like you're pressing the button right as you would be hit by an attack, rather than pressing it when the enemy begins to swing. It isn't an instant dodge.
>>337323013
I sounds like your making up excuses just because you don't understand the game mechanics, I have a friend who always does this. He's a pro at every game just like you, but when he fails it's always the "input lag", "attack que" or teammates fault. Have you tried to git gud yet?
>>337323298
>going to such ridiculous levels of damage control when people call you out on being shit
>>337321942
Are you sure it isn't just your TV?
>>337323298
>claims input lag
>whole thread literally every anon tells him there is no input lag
>THERE IS ITS JUST YOU NIGGERS CANT SEE IT
>MUH SKILLS ARE PERFECT ITS THE GAME THATS BROKEN
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Boy what a faggot
>>337323298
Let's play SFV right now faggot, gimmie that cfn.
>>337323409
I hit it as soon as I see the animation. The swing hits me before the dodge animation starts.
I'll admit my reflexes aren't anywhere near comp play tier, but I can still fucking SEE the delay when I test my roll, there's a short delay. Hard to see unless you're looking for it but it's there, boot the game up and test it yourself.
>>337323062
The quick step dodge is shit, it has like no iframes compared to the regular roll which has tons of them
>>337320878
frame pacing lul
>>337321942
souls games have always had a delay on commands you fucking retard. Gitting Gud comes from anticipating enemy attacks and taking into account the delay. If dodging was frame perfect there would be absolutely no challenge to these games.
>>337323447
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>>337323507
And now we've heard from the shitposters who haven't played Bloodborne, thanks guys your contribution has been noted and the verdict is that you niggers should kill yourselves, thanks.
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>>337323409
Pressing when the enemy begins to swing is way too late, you'll get caught by lingering hitboxes or the extreme tracking
>>337323298
The bait is strong with this one.
>>337323507
Every single game has input lag between button press and actually getting this input. That's how things work
http://www.displaylag.com/video-game-input-lag-database/
Not defending OP of course. He probably has laggy TV or he's not used to roll/step startup and i-frame duration
>>337321629
Kos second phase is sometimes bullshit due to the camera
>>337323651
Oh. OK, thanks.
>>337320878
>play das3 on pc with kb+m
>dodging happens a quarter second later than press
>enemies gang up
>stunlocked to death
>always get wrecked by input delay
>>337320878
I thhink you posted wrong pic anon.
Hunter is an awesome dodger.
Its the dark souls 3 MC that can't dodge worth a shit.
>>337323298
Souls is not an action game dumbass, stop playing it like it's DMC and learn the timing for rolls and shooting your gun. It's the fastest souls game, but it's still a souls game, and souls games are slow and weighty to make it more challenging.
>>337323674
Cleared it a couple of times actually.
Jokes on you.
>>337323674
Literally why are you still trying so hard.
The dodging animation is not entirely iframes. You need to know when to be dodging so that your iframes are active at the right moment. Just assuming that dodging when an enemy starts to swing is going to get you good results is your first problem.
I literally just fired up the game to check
There's around 15ms between pressing circle and your character beginning to move.
>>337323850
I fucking despise those little shits
>>337323674
>implying I didn't buy my ps4 specifically for BB
Git Gud you shitter
>>337323940
Not fond of checking your surroundings, I see.
What's the point of the HP regain mechanic in Bloodborne when bosses do 80% of your health per hit, you regain maybe 5% per hit, and you can only get in around 2 hits every few seconds because bosses are so fast and aggressive, and have absurd tracking on their attacks so you have to keep dodging?
>>337323838
>playing a Souls game with kb+m
>>337320878
the souls series is basically built on unresponsiveness though. it's not quite your standard action game. everything you do has some windup of some sort. same with the enemies.
it's simply a game of timing vs. timing.
>>337320878
Got a few hundred hours in this game, and I've never had this problem. Step it up, you crying faggot.
>people who have been playing souls game's this long and haven't realized the inputs are delayed
>>337323624
With step dodge you get better punishes against some attacks (waste less stamina, end up closer, can do 1-2 additional attacks)
It also works great against some "rage mode" combos when bosses start swinging around like crazy and with regular roll you will end up with no stamina.
Learning to step dodge was a huge part in my SL4 playthrough
>>337323674
>continuing this facade
I got every trophy but the one for killing that bitch at the end of the chalices.
>>337323998
>80% per hit
I suppose.
>5% per hit
That's definitely not true. In fact there were times that I felt like the whole regen via attacking thing was a little too forgiving.
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>>337323951
haha, nice try fags.
>>337323651 blows you the fuck out I'm afraid, now end your pathetic lives, it'll be the only dignified thing you cunts ever do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TJrw5gwx-o
>>337324012
I played it on my friend's good keyboard, I like it more than controller back when I still had my 360
>>337323747
>Every single game has input lag between button press and actually getting this inpu
Obviously, its fucking elementary physics. However if you don't see it or don't feel it you might as well call it non-existent for you, so what's your point?
You can also say that geometry is a lie based on the fact that all known matter is basically microscopic dust orbiting other microscopic dust in empty space and there are no surfaces and angles in the real world.
>>337323976
Lol no. I find their combat behavior way more annoying than their hiding shenanigans. The hiding fuckers are almost free kills if you know where they are.
>>337323998
>>337324085
Hunter Axe and Burial Blade are like the only weapons in the game that can make decent use of the regain
>>337324095
You're the one here who is so bad at vidya gems that you had to make a post about it.
Maybe it's not the games fault. Maybe you just suck. I'm pretty casual, and dodging in BB was rarely a problem for me.
Git. Gud.
>>337323585
You're too attached to the roll maybe?
>>337323624
>>337323721
The quickstep has more than enough iframes to dodge right through enemy attacks. It should be obvious when using quickstep but in almost every instance you want to be dodging toward the enemy as if you're going under their attack.
Don't make me upload my videos of me dodging shit on those damn chalice bosses OP.
>>337324028
But we did realize pretty fast that op is a faggot who can't git gud and blames it on software.
>>337324174
That retard had like a million opportunities to parry him
>>337323651
>le Dark Souls is only hard because X
How to spot a pretentious armchair game designer 101.
>>337323850
>filename
Mark my words you fucking console losers. You hear me right now? Loud and clear? Well good, you better listen the fuck up.
I did NOT spend $600 on my GTX 980, another $300 on my overclocked i7 @ 4.10ghz, 16 gigs of ram, and deluxe cooling systems to keep this beast at proper temperatures to NOT fucking play Bloodborne. You hear me you little faggots? I have spent WELL over $1000 on my gaming rig, and I WILL play Bloodborne on it one way or another. I abhor, I hate, I LOATHE the idea of even thinking of some cheap shitty console from Sony being allowed even 30 yards from my basement. If I need to make a fortress with my pizza boxes, Big Mac boxes, and liters upon liters of piss bottles to keep that shitty underpowered piece of plastic toy away from my very being and my beautiful prized possession (that's my PC in case you didn't know, fucking low IQ peasants), then so be it.
FROM, I will ask nicely once more. You WILL port Bloodborne to the PC platform via Steam, it WILL obliterate the console version, and I WILL pirate it just to spite you dumb fucking slant eyed gooks for daring to even spite us; the proud and powerful PC master race.
>>337324605
You can just come over to my house and play BB on my PS4, fag.
>>337324605
Nevermind the theme of this pasta, overall writing style is quite fitting for the thread.
Thank you
>>337323998
It rewards players thatgit gud, and play offensively. Learn to use the Rally mechanic to manage your health bar whilst fighting regular enemies, saving you vials for the aggressive boss fights ahead. For playing better, you save blood vials, so ultimately save more echos to level up and upgrade equipment.
There are other items in the game that allow you to replenish health in other ways, such as runes that affect visceral attacks. Get your parrying times down and you can do major damage to most bosses while recovering huge amounts of your own health. Again, the player that takes full advantage of the mechanics is rewarded. That's why it's considered a good Souls game. The interesting setting, weapons, and lore just makes everything even better.
>>337324297
My experience with Paarl has been that quick steps always get me killed because the electricity hits me as soon as the iframes wear off, whereas just using normal rolls trivializes the fight.
I had much more success against Ludwig and Ebrietas without lock on as well, because the quick step will get you caught in their followups. Basically, quickstep against humanoid bosses and regular roll against beasts.
>>337324821
Rally is definitely useful against regular enemies, no doubt, but those enemies should not hit you to begin with.
>>337324821
How do you play offensively against Ludwig or Orphan? Or Gehrman?
>>337324886
>Paarl
Oh Paarl. He's my personal hardest souls boss. Died way too many times to him. That electric burst is really damn hard to time with the quickstep.
>>337323298
>The input delay is fucking PERCEPTIBLE BY THE HUMAN EYE.
Prove it
i used to have trouble with paarl until i found out the untricked saw cleaver does extra damage to beasts.
they never made that fact clear at all.
>>337324886
Personally the quick step got me through just about every fight including those, other than times I needed to attack quickly in multiple directions.
Paarl does make you disengage lock on and escape sometimes, he's easy to interrupt with a heavy weapon though.
>>337320878
Pretty good thread, OP
>>337325570
Doesn't the game explicitly say that serrated edges do additional damage to beasts?
>>337325661
It does.
>>337325570
"One of the trick weapons of the workshop, commonly used in the hunting business.
This saw, effective at drawing the blood of beasts, transforms into a long cleaver that makes use of centrifugal force.
The saw, with its set of blood-letting teeth, has become a symbol of the hunt, and only grows in effectiveness the more grotesquely transformed the beast."
>>337320878
>CHECK YOUR HDTV SETTINGS FAGGOT
>SET IT TO GAME MODE
>SOULS GAMES ARE NOTORIOUS FOR INPUT DELAY ERRORS
>>337328064
Just for the dodge delay yo? Everything else is fucking fine, its just that dodge.
