It's time to apologize.
>>337280084
I defended this game before, but playing 3 just made me realize what a turd this game really was. Fuck this game, I don't miss it at all.
It's time for you to fuck off. Take your shit game with you.
At least it had poise I guess
>>337280084
Only dark souls game I didn't buy.
Never regretted that decision.
For fucking what? Are you trying to tell me to apologize for Dark 2 being a bad game? Because it isn't and never was. It was an awkward mess in some places but it was ultimately a good ass game, not as good as the others, but it never sunk as low as Lost Izalith for fuck's sake.
>>337280084
yea sorry for being a piece of shit game
>>337280084
I'm sorry you like a shit game over a good game op.
im sorry daddy, dont spank me desu
>>337280404
>let me show you my dagger
>>337280084
I apologize. I'm sorry. Dark Souls 2 is a good game.
>>337280084
>tfw beating the game with powerstancing bone fists
A shame DaS 3 lacks in build variety.
DS 2 was and still is shit. I went back to play it with the Sotfs version and its just as slow and shitty as before. I loved being damaged when I was never touched by an enemies attack animation, I love soul memory fucking up PvP and all online interaction. I love the shittiest bosses. Every thing feels super sluggish and sloppy. The only positive this game has is that even a toaster of a PC can run it at 60 fps.
DaS2 is still the ebst souls game I've ever played (Even played bb and DeS) but apparently "dark souls 2 is bad" is beyond the ultramememe point and it's pointless to argue with people about it.
Just enjoy it for yourself, and don't talk about it over here
dark souls 2 has
>content
>fresh ideas
>>some good, some bad
dark souls 3 has
>bloodborne 2
i played a fuckton of das1, das2 but not so much das3.
4 playthroughs and i havent been able to stomach a fifth.
caster builds are so gimped by how powerful physical builds are. i dont even main int/fath/hybrid builds, but i like to dabble in them for variety.
and why did they remove powerstance? it was one thing that dark souls 2 did great but could have done better.
also poise.. why?
>>337280084
No. Its shit.
>>337280084
SUCH A LUST FOR SHITPOSTING
>>337281741
what area is that?
>>337282112
Shrine of Amana.
>Ascetics, not to respawn enemies but to respawn bosses
>Able to use a weapons full moveset in the left hand
>Powerstance
>Upgrading shields actually improved their stats, not just the stability
>Depleting your stamina caused your character to breathe heavily
>You didn't lose your momentum from falling down 2 feet
>Poise wasn't as retarded as in 1 or as useless as in 3
>Really fun NPC invaders where they didn't act like just another enemy
>Interacting with the environment unlocked secrets, like lighting all the scones in The Gutter
>Other secrets like the pig and the pickaxe
>Pharros Lockstones and Fragrant Branches to manipulate the environment
>Getting wet reduced your characters lightning resistance while boosting your fire resistance
>NG+ didn't just increase enemy HP and damage, it added new enemies and items
>rolling in poison pools made your poison build up continue even on dry land because you were still covered in it
>rolling in snow/poison/water covered you in it, and it slowly disappeared
>You could activate several pools of blood at once, resulting in hilarity
>You could be invaded even if you were hollow and if the boss was dead, but at a lower chance
>You could burn an effigy to block invaders, but as a result you blocked summons as well
>Poison builds were not only viable, they were useful
>You could roll in more directions when locked on
>Hexes were fleshed out
>White phantoms couldn't Estus with an invader in the world
>Small soapstones if you wanted help with the area before a boss, without having to Black Crystal to solo the boss
can someone post me a single screenshot of an area in Dark Souls 3 that has color that's not yellow orange or gray?
>>337280264
that's funny, because playing 3 made me realize how much better 2 is
>>337280507
>never played the game
i just bought it yesterday it seems fun so far
>>337280084
Dark Souls 2 was awesome. Not as good as the first one. But still awesome nontheless.
>3
Probably better. But I've ran into shitty issues too. Boss music not playing, or the boss not even fighting. No storyline. DS2 at least had a cool story.
All souls games is 9/10
Dark Souls 2 DLC > Dark Souls 1 DLC > Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 > Demon Souls> Dark Souls 2 SOTFS > Dark Souls 2
>>337282978
Except Dark Meme 2.
>>337280084
Dark Souls 2 got the best Firekeeper
>>337282386
well said anonymous
>>337281741
You can literally make any map look like shit if you don't include the details of what's in it. Include the legend of the map on the right before you compare it to the left, idiot.
>>337283056
Those DaS2 DLCs were nothing special. I swear there has to be some sort of bizarre conspiracy to shill those fucking things here.
>>337283060
which is 10/10
>>337280084
You need to stop making these threads. Your game is shit. Nothing will change that.
>>337283204
Dumb Goldenfaceposter
>>337283164
IDK maybe it just seemed so good by comparison it colored people's (including my own) opinions.
>/v/ doesn't like a game
do I have to stop playing now I thought it was fun :(
>>337283269
cucked
how do I defeat the bitch at the bottom of the dragon sanctum?
>>337283204
People who shit on DS 2 are underage retarded meme posters.I am not defending DS 2 but it has done many things right compared to 3.
>>337280084
Honestly never hated the game. Of course I only played SOTFS. 3 is least my favorite of the series. Something is just off. Like its actually complete (Minus future DLC) but, just feels as if they just didnt do anything different. Weapon arts are cool, but everything is lacking. 2 at least attempted to be different.
>>337283164
>because dark souls 2's base game was so shit, the dlc was astounding in comparison
>>337283562
You git gud
No really, she is the hardest boss in all of DS2
not counting fake dragon
'das2 was good' is my favorite meme
people are trying too hard to push it though
>>337280264
Weird, with me it was the other way around.
>>337284225
she just wrecks my shit when she summons that golden dude
any tips would be awesome
>>337281164
I only wish wish dark souls 3 was as good as bloodborne.
I really liked DaS2. I understand the hate but I loved playing it and enjoyed the DLC immensely. It brought some ideas that I wish made it to DaS3.
I started with DeS so I never put DaS on the pedestal.
>>337282268
>All of that heavy armor + greatshield
>16 units greatsword
>Still using pyros despite using a str weapon
U wot? The textures are disgusting but your build is simply cringy, just go raw Bluemoon, and dump the stats on something better.
>>337284403
Hope for her to summon skeleton
>>337284727
well, that works I guess
>>337284403
focus on the summon, then when she summons the skeletons leave one alive, she won't summon anyone else if there's one remaining.
>>337284403
Hope she summons skeletons
Don't lock-on
Use Resins
Shoot stuff at her when she does her AOE
>>337280084
I really liked 2...more than BB even. I'm not even talking about the Sins of the scholar edition...regular ol' DS2
I never understood the hate. Every criticism of it seems like of shitty and autistic.
I don't care if anyone disagree with me.
Fuck you, i liked it a lot.
SotFS is a fucking huge game so if you actually like the game it is great.
>>337285029
A lot of the criticisms come from people who don't like that it is different from DaS and is its own game.
Only thing that pissed me off was:
>pre-purchase game
>buy all the DLC
>play the shit out of it
>re-release game because lol fuck you you gotta buy it again
>>337280084
It's time to STOP.
>>337285029
Shit was great, I really wish B-team would make a different game like DaS2, like a spiritual successor, where they could make whatever the fuck they want, shit'd be cash. There's no chance it would happen, but I can dream.
>>337283076
>beer seek seek lest
>good
>>337284834
That's how I beat her, it's been a while but outside of her summoning Velstadt i don't remember her being too hard
>>337284953
>she won't summon anyone else if there's one remaining
not true. it takes longer but she'll do it anyway. and i think it's always velstadt in that case.
>>337284323
>>337282551
funny, because I was feeling that too until I actually tried replaying 2 and realized that no, it's still shit
>>337280084
Nah.
>>337283076
Nah.
>>337285485
That's actually a plus. Worst part is everything else about her.
>>337280084
Fuck off with this thread. Your game was shit. No the DLC wasn't godlike, it only felt that way because the main game was so shit in comparison
>>337285962
lol @ ps scores being higher, because no other good games on those platforms
>>337286231
If you didnt like Sir Alonne or the Ivory King, you have objectively bad taste.
>>337280084
It's time to stop.
>>337286231
>Preargument
Holy shit that's funny, do you feel the need to win arguments against other anonymous posters?
>>337286231
I liked it beyond the annoying soul memory shit and awkward level-changes.
Could've done without ADP too.I expected the graphics downgrade so I didn't lose my shit over it.
>>337286556
No, I just feel the need to save you the trouble of posting it. It's all DS2 apologists do, cream themselves at the DLC
>>337285005
any special resin to use or anything works?
I have the heide lightning sword and the fire one too
>>337280084
DS2 added a ton of features that DS as a series needed, even little things.
The only things it fucked up were:
>More is better/harder.
>Tracking everywhere.
>Certain enemies will never stop attacking.
>Too many huge armored blimps that spun in the air.
That said, the game generally rewarded timing your enemies attacks or getting to know their blind spots dynamically, whereas DS1 as literally just
>strafe, backstab, repeat.
For the majority of combat.
That's not to say that i really liked DS2 more than 1, but it's really not so much worse, it just feel like it needs polish.
>>337286643
What's the problem with liking good content though? It was clearly the best of the game, also you sound anti-social.
>>337286910
None of them work. She has insane elemental resistance. But it adds a tiny bit of nothing, so do it i guess. Go with lightning cause it looks cool
>>337286330
This meme is funny
>>337286643
Crown of Sunken King > Artorias of the Abyss
That's right. It's not just cream son. It's the entire cake we're talking about here. Everyone should play the DLCs
>>337287620
It had the sexy Drakeblood set, I'll give you that one
The thing is most people here haven't played the real DARK SOULS II(tm)
https://youtu.be/d3iGL5CPDP8
>>337287620
Your DS2 memes have gone too far this time.
>>337280084
Sorry you put an ocean over top an ocean and a mutli ton iron castle in a bed of lava over top a poisonous windmill that has an elevator to take you up 15 stories into the air to reach the castle in the clouds.
Sorry.
Is DS2 being the worst thing ever still a meme?
Because it's still my favorite (haven't played BB yet).
>>337289237
ENBs are so fucking great, the texture replacers were great too, I remember wearing havel's, but the set was pink, shit was so fun, gedosato was fucking great.
>DaS autists and sonydrones sperging out every time someone tells them DaS2 is better
>>337283076
>>337285485
>>337280084
It's not a bad game. It's just not a great one. It feels like a bootleg Souls game. The level design and enemy positioning is noticeably worse than any other game in the series.
OH MY GOD WHO CARES
IT'S JUST ROLLING AND R1ING IN DIFFERENT GRAPHICS
WHEN THE FUCK WILL YOU PEOPLE GET OVER THIS REHASHED POSER SHIT AND MOVE ON
FUCKING COD HAS HAD MORE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCES IN COMBAT IN THE PAST THREE YEARLY RELEASES THAN MEME ROLLS
I mean, I put 200 hours on it, but it's the worst Souls game. That still makes in like the top 5 games of the the two most recent console generations.
>>337292880
That is the saddest posturing and sheer hatred of videogames.
Fucking Bethesda games have deeper combat than i-frame rolls and R1.
>>337290594
Ohhh fuck my sides.
This is probably an old meme but it's my first time seeing it.
>>337292804
>>337293123
wew lad
As someone who played Dark Souls 2 for a very long period of time, it's very easy to tell anyone why it's the worst in the series
Generic, Uninspired vision in random places, the shitty bosses like mytha, prowling magus, royal rat authority, rat vanguard, twin dragonriders, lel eight gargoyles, old iron king, executioners chariot, mismatched area tones from one area to the next, earthen peak to iron keep, the low quality and much less finely detailed texture design, the npc questlines that never really do anything, the completely disorientated and nonsensical world design compared to every other game in the series.
The game is still decent, it's just nowhere near as realised as any other souls game in terms of the world, which is so very important in these games.
Dark Souls 3 by comparison, which is probably the ignition point for this thread, has a fully realised world with area design and world design that makes constant sense both in terms of on foot point to point travel and visual consistency between areas, bosses that are both very important and referenced within the game world continuously, feel both inspired in unique ways and genuinely refreshing from one another, as well as being overwhelmingly suited to their areas and genuinely justified in game, a plot/story that genuinely carries the game forward and acts as a driving force to interweave the lore together, the retrieval of the cinders of lords, the relation of the lords to the areas, the areas purpose, the lords motives and history etc. DS2 loses cohesion massively throughout the game.
The bosses are mechanically far superior than DS2 bosses. If ever you wanted an example of quality over quantity, you needn't look further than a comparison of DS3-DS2, whereby the bosses in DS3 all feel unique from one another, inspired and relevant in the game world, have multiple phase mechanics, and transition based music to accompany the phases, along with huge movesets.
>>337293252
Could you do an analysis of the past three Madden entries too, please?
>>337293252
I'd also add that there are several things dark souls 2 does slightly better, the weapon variety and pvp were slightly better, but not significantly so, there were still glaring issues like soul memory and the onslaught of uber leveled havel shitters, shit mechanics like monastery scimitar spamming and syan's hallberd, and the weapon's, while certainly varied, suffered even moreso from the copy/pasted movesets than any other souls game.
I would rate the series personally as:
DS3>DeS>DaS>BB>DaS2
I feel that as a release title, DS3 and DeS are the only games that maintain a consistent quality throughout the entire game.
>>337280084
>PCmemers arguing other their scraps
Bloodborne is the peak of the franchise, by far.
3 is better than 2 though.
>>337283056
Dark Souls 1 belongs at the very bottom.
>>337293252
>The bosses are mechanically far superior than DS2 bosses.
I agree with everything else you said, but this seems wrong to me. DS3's bosses were so brainless that, even thought they looked different, they really didn't do anything for me. Nameless King and Godeater the Trap were interesting, but generally didn't care much for DS3's bosses, there combat mechanics were just too shallow and easy.
Dark Souls III is basically unplayable for me because I've already beaten this same game three times in three years and I don't know how a sane person who plays more than 5 videogames in a year wouldn't be deathly sick of this shallow and insipid i-frame cheesing combat.
>>337293747
>I feel that as a release title, DS3 and DeS are the only games that maintain a consistent quality throughout the entire game.
>DeS
>consistent quality
Yeah, consistently mediocre. There are a whopping two good areas in the entire game. The only thing keeping it from being worse than DaS2 is the cohesive game world. If it weren't for that the game would be tied with DaS2 as the worst of them.
>>337294030
What?
No.
DS3 bosses were mechanically far, far more complex and had much larger movesets, with tons of attack types and multiphase mechanics.
They shit on DS2 bosses, some of the worst in that game had like 3-4 attacks in total.
>>337280084
RIP power stance. You brought us PvP build variety and depth. You will be missed.
>>337290594
To be fair, emerald herald is the most cheerish firekeeper than firekeeper in DaS 1 & 3
>>337280084
This meme needs to die.
>>337294363
>DS3 bosses were mechanically far, far more complex and had much larger movesets, with tons of attack types and multiphase mechanics.
Yeah, but it doesn't matter, because they were so easy and roll spam made everything a joke.
You're also understating DS2's bosses for seemingly no reason. I didn't like DS2 much, but the bosses were certainly more challenging despite their uninspired appearance.
>>337280084
stop this forced meme
>>337280084
fuck you ds2, you are shit, just like all souls games
>>337295126
0/10
>>337293252
I thought Executioner's Chariot was kinda cool.
>>337282738
It gets worse
You'll clue in that it's shit at about Shaded Woods probably
You'll drop the game once you hit the DLC
>>337294886
What?
How is anything in DS3 outside of ancient wyvern even remotely as simple as old iron king the high lord of like four moves, prowling magus, rat vanguard, rat authority, mytha the forgettable queen, demon of like 4 attacks, vendrick king of 4 attacks, giant lord of 3 attacks, dragonrider of 4 attacks, gargoyles of sheer inspiration. The game's bosses are so god damn disappointing I don't even know where to start, does any boss in the game even come close to artorias's versatility?
Have you actually played DS2 recently?
Outside of horrible hitboxes because of the ADP stat, the game is incredibly easy, especially dodging once your I-frame dependant stat is high enough, so I can't understand why you're so sure that it trivialises dark souls 3 in comparison.
Look at champion gundyr, literally always on your ass, relentless shoulder slamming, fist twisting, halberd spinning, charging, jumping, swiping action, soul of cinder's four bloody movesets in it's first phase, it's relentless scimitar attacks, the spinning spear, the fast wrath of gods to name only a fraction, nameless kings fast charging swings, it's sidewas running sweep attacks, it's lightning summoning, lightning kicks, slam attacks, poke attacks, 5 hit combos, and that's it's second phase, not even counting the first phase which is as good as dark souls 2's best bosses both in terms of challenge and visual splendour, if not better.
Twin Princes, Dancer, Nameless King, pontiff sulayvahn, dragonslayer armour, champion gundyr, oceiros, aldrich, abyss watchers and soul of cinder literally shit on everything in DS2.
>>337283056
>Brume Tower
>Iron Passage
>Frigid Outskirts
How can you people say with a straight face that this absolute trash is the pinnacle of the series? You vacuous retards require more insight.
>>337289237
>that fucking lens flare on the second one
Jesus Christ my eyes. Those look fucking atrocious. The last one actually looks alright though, might give it a try.
>>337282386
DELETE THIS!
>>337290582
>DaS2 autists desperately defending their shit game preemptively
>>337295551
>run around to lever
>win
Say what you want, but PVP Balance in DS2 is literally perfect. Hexes, sorceries, pyros, dual wielding, strength, dex, hybrids, everything and anything is viable and diverse
DS3 = straightswords, halberds, and rapiers... armor / poise doesnt even matter
Extremely disappointed in DS3's balance
>>337296768
Hexes are still OP as fuck
The only people who like DS2 are people who care too much about PVP
If you care about PVP in DS you're retarded
>>337296981
If you care about PVE in DS you're retarded
>>337296768
That's great for the PvP loving autists, but for fans of the actual game DaS2 was awful.
>>337297092
what the hell
that's the whole point
>>337295816
Because you just described the extra co-op areas. And not the main portions of the DLCs
The zelda cycle is so fucking real here
truths
>dark souls 1
remains the best in the most important aspects except optimization
difficulty is just right, being challenging and fair
the best in lore and bossfight quality
W A I F U S
>dark souls 2
is terrible in what made dark souls 1 amazing, the level design is completely scrapped and instead the put in 10/10 atmosphere and pretty looking environments
it did armor right for fucks sake i would cream myself over the armor this game has
difficulty is now the actual "Prepare to die!!! xD so hard" meme they didnt actually pull with dark souls 1, being straight up bullshit at times just to make the player angry, but hey "hardst game serries rite!!?"
interesting new mechanics that in my personal opinion are fucking great
weapon variety and movesets and all that weapon deal, is great
DLC is mediocre with the exception of ivory king dlc
>Dark souls 3
feels like an ACTUAL dark souls1 sequel, the armor is a downgrade from 2 but still better than dark souls 1
level design is scrapped again but to return to the dark souls 1 visual feel
Weapons feel amazing and are very varied once again
Enemies are once more challenging and fair, with very few exceptions
difficulty is probably the lowest in any dark souls game to date, i dont have an opinion on this because it doesnt bother me enough
Sadly powerstance was removed but replaced with weapon arts, wich are mildly advantageous at best in combat
Lore takes a big turn of the clock to the right time again, dark souls 1 influence in narrative and item descriptions are evidential
also W A I F U S
>>337296768
pvp balance in dark souls 2 was literally havel/dark katana
Soul memory ruined any chance of DS2's pvp being good
>>337295794
DS2's bosses are simple, and many of them were crap, Old Iron King being a prime example, but they were at least challenging.
DS3's bosses are mostly trivial because you can just roll spam everything, since it costs almost nothing.
All of DS3's fancy awesome bosses are undone by the combat being too fast and almost unpunishable.
>>337296981
unfortunately, yes
I always play with pvp builds because pve is easy and I always like the pvp aspect of any game better, however I felt like an idiot just spamming invasions and checking signs for duels
just felt dead as fuck, too old for this shit, there's no ladder, rankings, nothing. A lot of it is extremely broken and not fun to play too
>>337297329
I'd argue DS3's level design is the best in the series to be honest.
It's world design was certainly less interconnected than DS1 though, but I feel that they did a much better job than DS2 at making it feel visually right, standing in the high wall/undead settlement bridge area you can practically see every outside location in the game
>>337297673
should have put it in better words
dark souls 1 has the best MAP LAYOUT DESIGN ive ever seen
>>337297474
>pvp balance in dark souls 2 was literally havel/dark katana
until they nerfed it
confirmed for never playing the game
>>337286976
like this anon said ( >>337285461 ) i wish they could have the chance to make another game outside of the dark souls franchise and give its own spin
>>337297275
>bosses areas aren't part of the main game
>>337297493
>ds2
>just raise adp and roll spam from the bosses incredibly simply and easy movesets which offer little to no challenge whatsoever outside of gank encounter boss situations
>only real difficulty comes from the poor design choices like hitbox issues, tracking, multiple enemies in one fight and aoe's.
>ds3
>just roll away
>meanwhile the bosses are much more complex and varied, not to mention aggressive movesets which keep you on your toes
I can't disagree with you more on the difficulty, since everything you say about DS3 can be applied so much harder to DS2.
>>337280084
I want DS shitters to leave forever, and especially DS2 apologists, the only Souls game I haven't even finished because it was so bad.
>>337297879
Okay, pvp balance was:
Havel/Buffed MGS
Havel/Dark Katana
Havel/Katana
Havel/Katana
Havel/Katana
Havel/Katana
Havel/Katana/Monastery Scimitar
Havel/Katana/Monastery Scimitar
Havel/Syan's Halberd/Monastery Scimitar
Havel/insert two stunlock combo weapons like lance/shortsword or whatever/Monasatery scimitar
And proceeding onwards:
Havel/Insert shitter weapon of the week
Remember when they actually reduced monastery scimitar frames?
And then re-patched it?
Gee whiz, dark souls 2 truly had da bes multiplayer with it's nice havels havels havels havels havels havels havels havels and havels soul memory.
Might as well call it Havels Souls 2: Havel of the first Havel
>>337280084
After playing 3, I can safely say that 2 is my favorite Dark Souls personally.
SotFS is one of my top two Souls titles. I don't see why people still judge DaS2 on an outdated version.
>>337293252
> has a fully realised world with area design and world design
well yeah, because it fucking copy-pasted everything from dark souls 1.
>>337298035
You can't roll borderline infinitely in DS2 and rolling too early punishes you. Most of the bosses also cover their asses in some way, making playing it safe and methodical a better choice.
DS3's combat allows you to be so aggressive on almost every boss that I don't think I even parried anyone. I just hedgehogged almost every boss and then beat them like a pinata until they fell over because rolling costs almost nothing, because rolling has no give and take, it's all give.
The game was just easy, and even though I like the look and general design of the bosses more, they were too easy to be worthwhile.
Only about 3 of DS3's bosses even felt rewarding to beat.
>>337298504
1>3>>>>>>>>2
But there are 90 percent retards on this planet, it's normal to have a thread full of you guys.
>>337298735
>copy pasted everything from dark souls 1
>le anor londo means everything in dark souls 3 is a direct copy of dark souls 1
I fail to see how lothric castle, undead settlement, catacombs of carthus, irithyll excluding anor londo, irithyll dungeon, archdragon peak, grand archives, oceiros's garden, untended graves, farrons keep, road of sacrifices, profaned capital or cathedral of the deep are just "dark souls 1 copies"
>>337298820
And of course the ten percent of special snowflakes are hardcore soulsfags, right?
>>337298526
Most people didn't want to pay for it twice.
>>337298526
DESU SotFS didn't really even do much. A lot of the game's problems are systemic and not just enemy and item placements.
SotFS certainly made the game better, but not by such a measurable margin that it somehow removed the ridiculous tracking, infinite poise, infinite stamina, enemies. All it really did was set up more ambushes that would kill you if you didn't play the at a snail's pace.
DaS3 is the onset of the great casualization of the "Hardcore" status of Dark Souls.
>Smith given instantly
>Infusing weapons incredibly simple and common
>Item Buyer given instantly means easier souls sooner
>Hollowing no longer impacts your HP
>An early NPC levels you up for free
>Estus locations in the world you can drink from instead of using one of your several flasks that down incredibly quickly
>>337298804
>most of the bosses cover their asses in some way
Are you fucking retarded?
Dark Souls 2 was infamous for it's terrible circlestrafing and tracking. Look at the dragonriders, demon of song spinning, nashandra spinning, old iron king sitting around for 5 minutes after every attack, smelter demon literally spinning as he attacks you, velstadt literally spinning, his hammer has incredibly wonky hitboxes, vendrick spinning, covetous demon spinning, executioners chariot spinning.
All of these spinning examples are instances where the boss literally starts an attack and then moves without it's feet or legs animating to show movement, as if it's just spinning mindlessly
Fuck it, the bad ass covering design in dark souls 2 is so omnipresent it's not even worth bothering listing all the flaws.
There is no level of "cover my ass" in that game, it's fucking awful.
This is the largest level of sheer nonsense I've seen regarding the latest slurry of DS2 apology threads.
Dark Souls 3 meanwhile has tons of examples of bosses covering their asses with ways which are mechanically justified beyond tracking bullshit. Champion Gundyr's kick and charging flurry, pontiff's light attack with his blue sword, aldrich's large sweeping snake like motions and transport/teleport mechanism being an attack itself when you get behind him, the tree lifting up/falling over when you get behind him, dancer's chain attack, dragonslayer armour's shield attacks, twin princes teleports,
You are full of shit.
>>337299059
No we aren't fans of anything because fanboyism is just another word for dumb as a barn.
>>337280084
>BB, DS1, DeS
10/10
>DS3
9/10
>DS2
7/10
>>337299671
It really doesn't matter, what he says it right, DaS3 is/was too easy. I beat the whole game in a few days after working 12 hour EMT shifts and on about 5 hours of sleep each day.
DaS2 had shit animation and quality, but at this point you just have to admit that the series in general is mediocre and just happened to have two good-ish games because From got lucky. I only say good-ish because Demon Souls is really dated these days, despite it being my favorite.
The entire grudge i had against DS2 was the soul memory, And the entire arena
>Can only invade with broken orbs
>Must buy them
>To get full orb you need 500 wins in the arena
>5 fucking hundred
>If you lose a match your points go backwards
Infuriating on a whole new level.
>>337280084
Yeah, I do wish From would apologize for this catastrophe. But we all know that isn't going to happen.
>>337282386
I'm really disappointed DaS3 didn't have the Small White Sign Soapstone. Areas like the two crocodile dogs before the Aldrich Faithful covenant I wanted to help, but didn't want to get stuck in the world with no reward.
>>337299947
>DS1
>unfinished as fuck after anal rodeo
>10/10
ayyyyyy
>>337284225
I beat her first try. The Ivory King's tiger was way harder IMO
>>337282386
Okay now post the cons
>NO, DSII IS PERFECT
>PERFECT
I miss some of the stuff in DS2, but DS3 ultimately feels like a fun game to play.
>>337300497
It's funny because the post-Anor Londo areas in DaS1 are better than anything in DaS2 and the majority of DeS.
>>337301307
>this is what DaSbabbies actually believe
Dark Souls 2 is literally the Star Wars prequels. A masterpiece that the internet decided to meme on and make it look like shit.
>>337294742
>Maiden in Black, no eyes
>Bonfire, no eyes
>Emerald Harald, one eye (secret desu eye)
>Doll, fake eyes
>Bitch from DSIII, blind
What's it with From and blind/no eyes/hiding eyes?
>>337284225
>No really, she is the hardest boss in all of DS2
>Elana
>Hard
What? How?
Her fight is an RNG fight, if you don't get Velstadt it's a joke.
>>337301382
Jesus Christ.
OBJECTIVE SOULSBORNE PLAYER HERE:
1. Bloodborne
2. Dark Souls
2. Demon Souls
3. Dark Souls 2
4. Dark Souls 3
>>337301612
>Demon Souls
Found the bitchboi who never really played the series
>>337280084
>Not even the rerelease can save this piece of shit
Pffhahahhahah
DS2 is not canon in my book and never existed
>>337301382
>Souls
>masterpieces
Fuck this generation.
>>337301372
I started with Demon's actually. Bought a PS3 for the game, before Dark Souls was even announced. I'm not a bandwagon hopping newshit like you.
You guys suck at nuance. DaS2 is a good game, it's just the worst Dark Souls game.
>>337301738
Honestly, back when Demon's Souls was released day one, I didn't think it would catch on.
Only my friend and I played it, no one knew it existed.
Somehow a Dark Souls was released, and we both played it.
It went to PC, and bam DSII down the line.
Then a fucking Bloodborne and another DS.
I never thought this series would take off.
>>337301382
>>337281741
Shrine of Amana is even one of the better, more memorable areas in DaS2, and it's still worse than one of the more boring, unnoteworthy DeS areas.
>>337301382
Dark Souls 2 is the worst in the series, but it's still a solid 7/10 game and better than most shit that comes out now-a-days.
/v/ bitches about DS2 because 7/10 means the game is pure shit and only baby cucks play it.
>>337301685
ThTs right anon its Demun'z Soulz
>>337280084
It was a mechanical improvement on 1 in every way. I didn't like the character model. I don't really get the level design meme, it's all the same shit in every game. SotFS is the definitive version, I miss the red phantoms in that game, they were actually interesting.
>>337302360
I honestly don't get the concept of your post.
You did some kinda Ebonics but posted baby stuff.
What's either gotta do with Demon's Souls?
>>337302446
He''s mocking your "bitchboi".
>>337284225
Someone hadn't faced Fume Knight
>>337287620
>dks2 dlc better than AotA
DELETE THIS
>>337303254
Eleum Loyce is my favorite area in all of the souls games. Frozen Outskirts and the Burnt Ivory King fight are my favorite parts. They're really atmospheric.
How come From never made a Dark Souls: git gud edition?
Are they above the memes?
>>337280084
No, Dark Souls 2 was a grind to play through, 90% of enemy placements were cheap and unbalanced. Even in the Scholar version.
>>337280084
No, fuck you and fuck Dark Souls II
>>337280084
Why? you're not even a souls game.
>>337282396
>>337280084
Roll roll attack
>>337294742
>Shit attracts flies
>>337304256
>DS3
>roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll (I can roll 7 times without stopping in 3 with just 15 END)
>wait a split second for lightning fast Stamina regen
>attack, attack, attack, attack
>>337304096
God damn my dick is diamonds.
I wish more games used Gothic architecture.
>>337304515
now imagine sci-fi gothic hnnggggg
>>337280084
>there are people who think 2 is better than 3
>>337304895
DS2-fags and delusional nostalgiafags, go figure.
>>337304846
40k Souls
>>337280084
Oh shit did they patch the healing crystals out? Or soul memory? Or despawning enemies? Did they replace Orn2tien, the gargoyles, and 3 carabineros with actual bosses? Did they at least fix the lighting?
No, because 2 is fucking trash.
>>337304895
3 just felt less fun to me.
>>337304846
I have been ever since From said DS3 was the end of the Souls games.
Japanese Dead Space please.
>>337305263
3 really felt like the devs were just tired and going through the motions. The style and combat really makes it feel like they just wanted to make another Bloodborne game.
>>337305202
>40k Souls
That's both the only way it would work and the best way.
>>337304895
Honestly both suck.
I'd take Demon's, Dark, and Blood as a trilogy anyday and let it die.
>>337305789
Curse of success, each release keeps selling better and better, no way they're going to stop now, I would not be surprised at all to hear a BB2 announcement at E3 this year.
>>337305967
They're done with Souls and BB. They said it like a billion fuckin times, they've moved on and a new IP is in development.
>>337280084
No
>>337305967
They have a contract for 2 more sony exclusives, so it's not gonna end. It's time for pic related
>>337282386
Yup, Dark Souls 2 had a lot of good features that I'm sad to see gone, but it definitely has the weakest level and boss design.
>>337306381
I would've loved areas that looked like Ancient Egypt, Greece, and Mesopotamia. Would've been pretty rad to have a game that had all those themes.
>>337280084
dark souls 2 is still shit
dark souls 3 is objectively better in terms of level design, enemy design, bosses and gameplay
>>337280084
Wasn't the hit boxes in Dark souls 2 horrible?
>>337306203
>tfw other From's series like King's Field and Armored Core have more entries than their most successful franchise
There is no way that's going to happen. I am sure Dark Souls 4 will be a thing in five years or less.
Also Miyazaki said he was done with Dark Souls, not From. The project will probably be handled by other people (like Dark Souls 2 was)
>>337306754
>all that "shockwave" damage
Please don't remind me
>>337306754
DS 2 could of had the best gameplay since nearly every weapon is viable, but the shit tier hit boxes ruins the whole god damn game.
>>337280084
DaS3 being a massive disappointment doesn't somehow retroactively make DaS2 any better.
>>337307309
I think if DaS2 had no ADP and it had the movement of DaS it would've been perfect.
I miss 999 ammo, powerstanced Avelyns and twinblades.
>>337306754
https://youtu.be/sNCDcrHMVtk
>>337306859
>There is no way that's going to happen. I am sure Dark Souls 4 will be a thing in five years or less.
>Also Miyazaki said he was done with Dark Souls, not From
Pretty sure he was talking about the company, hell he even said it "Wouldn't be right" to keep making them, he's the president of the fucking company.
Should I go back and finish Scholar? I got past Shrine of Amana and dropped it after that
>>337289237
Aren't ENB's only available for the original game, not the Scholar version?
>>337283076
yes
>>337307561
I really hate how they limit your storage box carrying capacity in DaS3 with arrows. It's pretty stupid that I'm only allowed to carry 50 dragon slayer arrows in my storage box.
>>337307648
Funny, that's where I stopped playing Vanilla DS2, got a bit into the Undead Catacombs and just said fuck it and stopped.
>>337307646
Money speaks higher, anon
Give it time, they will eventually go back to digging their goldmine
>>337280084
>play DaS3 for awhile
>get fed up with the bullshit
>go back and do a playthrough of DaS2 because I remember all the good shit it did
>play DaS3 immediately after
>realize that while there's a lot to like about DaS2 and it does have its moments, ultimately DaS3 is the better game in spite of the shortcomings it has
Anyone else?
>>337307789
>mfw I completely forgot about the Crypt
>got major buttmad about that whole area and dropped the game after I getting through Amana
well I have my answer, fuck DaS2
>>337308056
He said ONLY years down the line if someone had a a great idea for a Souls game would he revisit it.
>>337298804
DS3 bosses are FAR harder than any of the previous games' bosses. the pontiff, for example, never stops attacking he swings his swords in 180 degree motions around him and gives very limited openings for counterattacks. yes, you can roll spam, but unless you're godlike with your timings, you're going to get hurt. he hits pretty fucking hard too.
it honestly baffles me how people can consider DS3's bosses the easiest when some of them are far FAR harder. the nameless king alone is probably the hardest souls boss in general. nothing in DS2 can compare, other than the god awful twin icecat fight or the burnt ivory king solo
even fume knight is pretty forgiving compared to the harder DS3 bosses.
i think you're just good at souls games and that's why you thought they were easy. try playing the DS2 bosses again and then try to come back and say they're more difficult.
>>337308094
That's what I feel all these people need to go back and replay DS2 to realize it's inferior.
>>337308238
maybe I played 2 too much but the iframes in 3 are as ridiculous as 2, rolling is fucking too good
beat pontiff first try, solo
I beat most bosses /v/ freaks out about on my first or second try solo, abyss watchers were easy as shit, aldritch was easy, the only awkward time with nameless is his first phase
>>337299993
dickwraith not so tough after being cucked
>>337307789
>>337308171
y'all are both dumb. the game ends shortly after that.
>>337307789
>>337308171
thats where you stopped? that areas not so bad compared some of the pre-castle areas
>>337308209
I'm glad he is going to keep it as a trilogy
>>337280084
That area is beautiful.
>>337309316
Well why would I even know that
>>337309532
culmination of previous butthurt along with I got the most butthurt there
>>337307309
Imagine if Miyasaki released a tweaked/fixed versiin of DS2.
>>337280084
Why? DaSIII is a lot better than DaSII. Unfortunately, it ignored pretty much everything that DaSII did do right, but overall, DaSII is still a Cleveland Steamer.
>>337280084
Yes apologize for such an underwhelming area.
>>337309915
You mean SotFS?
>>337280084
I liked DS2 but it was genuinely inferior to 1 and 3.
>>337309316
>>337309532
I just had enough with the game's shit, put it down and never came back, certainly won't now after SotfS made it outdated.
I need to put down souls games for a while. I'm burnt out from playing 3 and bloodborne so much. I know I'll come back to them at some point, and then finally sit down to play Scholar before 3.
When Dark Souls 2 was born the doctor slapped the mother.
>>337313178
My penis can extend 5 meters into a sharp spike like the T-1000
>>337299623
>>Hollowing no longer impacts your HP
>>an early NPC lets you level up for free
Dying decreases your max HP
Yoel gives a maximum of 5 free levels, and only if you die to go hollow
Did you even play the game?
Dark 2's good bits were overshadowed by the amorphous colossus that was all the bad shit.
I think From just looked at Dark 2 as a whole and considered it a failure, so ignored all the little bits it added.
Dark Souls 3 has no soul. Made by committee.
At least Dark Souls 2 was original and took risks but the internet decided to hate on it for no reason
>>337306859
Armored Core is a better series desu. Or at least it was before the HD games.
>>337280084
I am sorry that you were absolute shit and dark souls 3 made you look even worse.
>>337314263
>Dark Souls 2
>original
>took risks
>decided to hate on it
>for no reason
kek la kek
>>337309076
even souls veterans like lobosjr and epic name bro found pontiff and other late game bosses to be pretty tough
are you implying you're better than both of them?
>>337314263
>hate it for no reason
Now, I know most of this kind of posting is bait, but there are people who are sincere about this.
Dark Souls 2 is a bad game. There's no arguing around that. It plays badly, it looks hideous, it's designed poorly.
There's nothing you can say to change the facts, or even to change people's perception of it.
You may like the 'content', you may like the 'balance', but at the end of the day the basic parts of the game are so bad that a few hours extra game is meaningless and changes nothing.
Fuck 2, most boring, bland, and ugly game, deserves no praise at all
The great parts of Dark 2 just make me hate the game more for locking away some interesting stuff behind that wall of shit.
Dark Souls 2 is like a French Garden.
Dark Souls 1 (and 3) is like an English Garden.
>>337315990
>introduced guard break crits
>viable unarmed and fist weapon fighting
>improved bows
>made dual wielding viable and powerstancing
>more variety in magic
>bigger and longer game with more bosses
>more build variety in pvp, less people following cookiecutter meme builds
>more reliable summoning and p2p connectivity in general
>shulva, brume tower and eleum loyce
>can still invade and be invaded in areas you've beaten the boss already
>bonfire ascetics let you access ng+ content without replaying entire game
>much less tedious backtracking
>twinking much less prevalent but still possible
>actually ran at 1080p/60fps out of the box without needing mods to fix
>interesting NPCs (cocky merchant, p8/cr8, navlaan, straid, grandahl, agdayne, etc)
>good level design (bastille, gutter, huntsman's copse, etc)
Weaknesses:
>individual levels did not interconnect
>level transitions did not always make perfect, euclidean sense
>was not exactly the same as dark souls 1 therefore it's shit
