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>Pre War Jet
>Ayy Lmao
>A Ghoul kid suck in a refrigerator for 200 years
>Ayy Lmao
>A man from the 19th century having immorality because of Ancient Aliens
>Ayy Lmao
>Pete Hines telling Fans that it's all fake. Lore doesn't matter you Nerds
>Ayy Lmao
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>>337271034
I forgot the entire plot of Fallout 4
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>>337271903
You from the pre war and nobody cared. Plus your soon is bad guy
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>>337271034
>it's ok to have inconsistent writing because it doesn't exist
I wonder if Metro would have been as well received if Artyom could suddenly resurrect people with radiation.
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>>337272397
Also, robots.
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>>337271903
It was a shitty plot that read like fanfiction.
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>>337271034
>he cares about FO4 lore/writing
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>>337271034
>TFW Bethesda thought Wild Wasteland was canon
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>>337272397
"I WAS FROZEN IN TIME PRESTON"
"Wow. That must be hard. Anyway random fags need your help XD"
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The game gets much better once you get the garbage story, notes, tapes, and terminal entries out of the way.
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>>337272397
>your soon is bad guy
Wow... major spoiler alert!
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>>337271034
>>A man from the 19th century having immorality because of Ancient Aliens
Wait what the fuck?
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the hate fallout 4 meme i love it
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>>337274763
the meme meme meme meme i meme it
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>>337271903
Fallout 3 with the father and son roles swapped+time skips
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>>337271034
Myron lied about inventing Jet.
Even Fallout 2 supports this.
Ask Mrs Bishop.

Deal with it.
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>>337273563
>But it's ok when 1,2,3 and new vegas do it
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>>337273563
>retards dont understand that good rpg gameplay is dependent on good writing
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>daily muh Jet thread
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I don't understand how the writing and voice acting is just so bad. Like, I enjoy the game, building little comfy bedrooms all over the shitland, enjoyed the other games in the series.

But the voice acting and writing isn't even close to believable. The same voice giving itself speeches back and forth, with really odd emphasis on certain words.
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>>337273908
Why did bethesda ever think they could create an in-depth world by putting walls of text in hundreds of very ignorable terminals?
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>>337275802
Isn't Voice Acting a union job?
Couldn't they have gotten literally anybody else?
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>>337271034
Pete Hines literally needs to be stopped.
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>just turn your brain off and like the game for what it is, the shooting is fun
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>>337275109
>3
How did it come to this, /v/?
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>>337271034
Fallout has always had aliens, The immortality was an ancient civilization, not ayy lmao. It's a lovecraft reference
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Reminder to all lorefags, Bethesda owns the rights to Fallout now so canon is whatever they say it is.
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>Dude, bro, you gotta help me
>When I first came here to start my synth colony, people didn't trust synths
>So I kiddaped 2 people, murdered one and brainwashed the other into thinking they were the person I killed so they would go back and tell all the humans that synths are good boys who dindu nuffin
>Then I found out the launch codes for the nuclear missle on the island and figured out how to cut of the human's power supply in case they ever decided they didn't like us anymore
>But the memories of all that made me sad so I deleted them because I'm a robot
>Now all the humans are mad at me for some reason??
>Oh before I delete this thought, I have this crazy plan for dealing with the local cult too, I just need two guys and an alibi for tonight. Help a robot out man?
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>>337277169
>le wacky ancient civilization
>memecraft, get it?
Just gas yourself, Bethesda.
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>>337277959
Reminder that if Obsidian still had the rights, Avellcuck would have blank slated everything
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>>337277713
>Bethesda owns the rights to Fallout now

why are you posting from 2007?
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I wonder how Cain feels about Todd.
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>all these complaints about muh lore and muh story

lol fuckin nerds
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>>337278713
Probably jealous.
After all only one of them has been part of a successful studio.
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Why would The Institute even bother making lifelike synths?

Gen 1/2 synths are hardly any different from Mr. Handys/Protectrons/Whatever, which can still do necessary work. "Human" synths add absolutely nothing new to the output equation yet just throw in the ethics question.
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>>337279421
All of this and more can be explained by a single thing.
Incompetent writers.
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>>337279421
SCIENCE!
and terrible writers.
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>>337279528
More like
>who cares it's fiction
fampai
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I think that the ghoul kid in the fridge was supposed to be a shot at indie and the crystal skull, but somewhere down the pipeline, the writer's vision for it got fucked up and they just turned it into a legitimate NPC.
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All the dialogue, terminal entries, etc. feel like they were written at a 4th grade fucking level.

>>337279421
Infiltration, you fucking retard? No wonder Bethesda writes the way they do. Nevermind.
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Nick was a pretty good character I thought. Loved his voice too.
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>>337278713
hes gay so propably lewd
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My god just enjoy the the fucking game. Real fans don't dissect the thing they're fans of so please stop bitching about petty issues.
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>>337280046
They wouldn't need to "infiltrate" Jack shit if they weren't written as "le evil skynet robomakerz" for not reason other than creating opposition.
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>>337280649
>this bait
just good enough to warn others to stay away
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>>337278403

Could you expand on that anon? I'm curious.
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>>337280649
Real fans also don't eat up a turd someone shits on their plate.
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https://youtu.be/A34poZ6paGs
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>>337280795
Avellone felt that fallout was getting to far from post apocalyptic, what with everyone pretty much back on their feet and settlements, towns, cities and nations thriving. He wanted to set everything back to square one.
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So why did whatshisface kill your wife in the vault? I have FO4 amnesia.
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why are they so fucking butthurt about one microscopic inconsistancy? LOL just enjoy the game and be happy that companies like Bethesda are making incredible games for you to play
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>>337276150
They are inspired by the books in Elder Scrolls games.
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>>337278534
kek
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>>337281327
She wasn't missions essential and he was already a demon, so taking the baby out of the arms of a woman freshly out of cryostasis was simply preferred to kellog instead of using his augmented man muscles to take the baby away.
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>>337271034
I never found the Fridge kid or Ancient Aliens...
Fuck, I might have to actually pick the game up again.
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>1st playthrough
>Meet the Danse krew
>Not wearing/wielding anything high-tech
>Get called a "civilian"
>Don't think much of it
>Get some plasma weaponry and a full suit of X-01 much later
>Wonder how first meeting with Danse and friends would go with all these toys
>Go to Cambridge police station on 2nd playthrough fully pimped out with high-tech shit
>Danse still calls me a civilian
>Conversation goes exactly the same as before

Writers can't account for everything. But this is just one of many examples of Bethesda dropping the ball when it comes to story and dialogue.

>>337281327
To be written out of the story.
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Whoever thought that dialogue wheel was a good idea needs to get punched in the face, it ruins the game

All the RPG mechanics are so shallow. Even Skyrim feels deep in comparison.
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>>337281091
Avellone might be solely responsible for some of the worst aspects of classic Fallout but he was right to hate the post-post-apocalyptic shit.

Otherwise Fallout would end up being a series about sharpening pencils in an NCR office cubicle.
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>>337281327
Kellogg was sent to get the preserved baby to live in the Institute.

Another thing I don't get is why apparently there was another 50 years or some shit between then and when you fight Kellogg (so that there's enough time for Shaun to grow up), but Kellogg looks the exact same and isn't an old man/dead.
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>>337280856
>one hour twenty three minutes
>he hasn't played Fallout 1 or 2
>he hasn't completed Skyrim despite playing it for hundreds of hours

Modern games.
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>>337273563
The only thing it had besides it bad game design, bad world design, bad technology, bad overall

its just shit now
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>>337271034
>A Ghoul kid suck in a refrigerator for 200 years

he's a fucking ghoul. do zombies die of starvation? jesus fucking christ i had no idea fallout fans are that retarded
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>>337281681
I think it's much more egregious this time around because of all the other things that NPCs notice about you and what you've done. Like how your NPC companions will stick their two cents in next to whichever emotion or query you just gave out.

Since they didn't bother thinking about player driven dialogue there needed to be a lot more lines like that to make up for it.
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>>337281912
They state in the game hes more cyborg than human at this point.
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>>337271034
>A man from the 19th century having immorality because of Ancient Aliens
To be fair that sounds like it could have come out of the original Fallouts.
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>>337281967

I'm still watching it but he's just analyzing what was wrong with FO4. It's amazing the type of shit I didn't catch but his shit is spot on.
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You complain about the fact that a kid survived in a fridge for 200 years but ignore the fact that people don't mutate during nuclear fallout, everything dies... No super mutants no mutated dogs... Just death, but no let's just ignore that part.
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>>337276150
It worked nice in F3. NV did it much worse.
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>>337282508
>not reading the amazing terminals in OWB
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>>337275802
I played female and I just didn't like her voice. Atleast it wasn't fucking Laura Bailey in the 20th game this year I guess.
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>>337282508
NV had better terminals than 3 and 4 put together.
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>>337282345
No it doesn't.

The only "magic" in Fallout was how the Master and that one super mutant in 2 turned psychic once they were mutated.

Finding an alien artifact to keep you alive is just Bethesda retardation.
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I hate gaming fans nowadays all they do is complain about games even if its the best game ever NO always something to complain about ...if you want realistic GO OUTSIDE AND GET A LIFE
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>>337282787
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i think maybe they make fallout be more just fun and TES be the super serious muh lore experience. weren't the old Fallouts like that too, with a bunch of goofy shit that barely fit in?
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>>337282928

i think who ever doesnt think fallout 4 is an amazing game for the series and in general should just stick to games like cod and shut the fuck up.. the game is amazing... shut up
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>>337283134
why don't you play them any find out
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>>337283175
Hi Todd
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>>337283175
Yeah if it's your first Fallout game
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>>337283254
They aged like fucking milk. Don't do this.
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this is 4 years old and it still applies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpc3l2aVEXU
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>>337283349
This anon is wrong, they've been enjoyed by many who haven't had the opportunity to play them near release.
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>>337283175
hi facebook
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>tfw you never once had a choice to find out how long its been since your son was taken
>no logs

>tfw valentine never asks you nor do you tell him that you were refrozen

>tfw if this was known, you would know once you're told about kellog that your son isn't a baby anyone

great plothole.
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>>337283175
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>>337283559
>>337283484
>>337283327
>>337283295

These aren't fans. These are nitpicking whiners. I expect this kind of nitpicking whining from a actually deep game like Bioshock Infinite but from Fallout? Seriously? Some people just play games looking for stuff to complain about instead of enjoying it.
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>>337283901
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>>337283901
wasn't whining, was just saying you sound like facebook
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L-look ma! I'm paying Homage to the series' roots! Am I doin it right?!
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>>337282156
The point was never about hunger or life expecntancy.
The point was the the kid would have gone insane (lack of external stimulii) or dessicated. Fridges are usually air-tight. While ghouls don't need to breathe, he'd lose water and dry up.
The fact you don't find a mummy instead of a kid is dumb.
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>>337280702
It's not that complicated. Make Snynths of influential people in the commonwealth to stealthily spread their agenda across the commonwealth.

It's not a bad plan and would be a good plot if we actually ever discovered what the institute's plans for the commonwealth actually were.
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>>337282506
The mutants didn't evolve from that.
It was FEV.
Seryously, play the first game and read the terminals this time.
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>>337282928
kek
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>>337283901
The problem is gaming isn't a hobby anymore to a lot of people, it's a fucking lifestyle. They need to stop taking this shit so seriously.
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>>337273563
>it's ok to heat shit because it's supposed to be shit! It's more important to support brands than liking the product!
in before "it's popcorn game bro lol".
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Reminder that the whole fucking train wreck can be traced to one man since pic related was the sole writer for the entire game.
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>muh lore

the "Gaming community" is fucking cancer that can't be fucking satisfied with ANYTHING.
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>>337280795
Avellone wrote Ulysses in Lonesome Road to talk about the Tunnelers destroying the Mojave. Luckily he's a crazy bastard and you can take him with a grain of salt.
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>>337284095
What's wrong with this?
Man you people will complain about anything.
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>>337282787
>>337283175
bait/shit normies say
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Fallout 4 sucks, but didn't 2 have some inconsistencies with Jet too? I can't find the post now.
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>>337284579
>Tunnelers are bad shit man!
>Any idiot can kill one with a shotgun
Ok mate
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>>337276317
>Couldn't they have gotten literally anybody else?
>union job
They COULD'VE, but VA unions fume over the idea of using new talent, especially new talent that isn't part of a VA union, the whole #performancematters bullshit was a union-hiring-only shillfest first, and a genuine concern on the quality of voice acting second

The fallout (heh) of a dev/producer saying fuck it while hiring a bunch of family members/developers themselves/random people off the street for an AAA Bethesda title's voicework would be a shitstorm like you wouldn't believe, it'd probably die-down, but now after a month of people screaming MUH SCABBING while shrieking about how big meanie corporate developers robbed Tara Strong and Steve Blum of their change to provide the same voice or variation of said-voice for the 200th time
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>these comments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZjDFfEgfJ8
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>>337284814
Oh yeah, Mrs. Bishop mentions being kicked out of Vault City for taking Jet, way before Myron was born.

But muh Black Isle.

>>337284838
Are you insulting me?
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>>337273563
decent writing could have made the game 1% better but they even fucked that up
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>>337271903
have you seen shawwwn????????????? ma sun shawwnwnnwn???????
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>>337284460
>letting a single guy write the whole game
I mean, you could already tell.
Everytime you meet someone that isn't a generic NPC, there's 50% chances it's someone from pre-war that somehow survived until now, or someone involved with the institute, because the game has to remind you that the institute is evil every 15 minutes.
Not that you'd forget because you have more interesting stuff to do, but more like because they don't really do much anyway, why are they evil again?
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>>337271034
Ayy lmaos have always been around

I accept them as random encounters/easter egges but FO3 took it way to the next level with that abomination of a DLC
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>>337276150
It's been like that all time you fucking millenial cunt.

Reading the terminals is one of the most interesting things that gives you insights into locations.
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>>337284838
Yeah, that's the point. Any idiot can kill one with a shotgun. The issue is they breed quickly and can kill quick in groups. They're a danger to everywhere outside of settled and communities. The town militia can put them down, but hobo with a shotgun is gonna have some travel digging through ruins for old whisky.
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>>337284962
No, I meant in general. The game goes on and on about how dangerous tunnelers are despite the fact that you can kill one with harsh language.
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>>337277870
> People actually sympathise with fucking synths
Every playthrough I just have to go BoS or Minutemen.
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>PRESS TRIANGLE, SQUARE, CIRCLE, OR X TO SHAUN
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>>337280046
Infiltration. Great! But fucking why?
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>>337285327

>real answers

>Yes
>Asshole Yes
>Clarify followed by yes
>I'll say yes later
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>>337285480
So they can literally assassinate the people from the Commonwealth who were trying to come together to form a central government for the purpose taking Boston out of the fucking Dark Ages, duhhhhhhh :)

I'm not shitting you.
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>>337284312
GET OUT NORMIE
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So fucking glad I played Witcher 3 after Fallout4. This game was a steaming pile of shit by comparison
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>>337271903
Get thrown in a fridge, play a shittier Heavy Rain up to the part where kill the only decent character in the game and then everyone sucks your dick until your decide to kill them.
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>>337285327
>YOU WANT TO BE EVIL
>OH YOU MUST SERIOUSLY NOT WANT TO BE EVIL
>WE'LL JUST MAKE YOU SARCASTIC BUT ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING

why
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Is there any way to get the DLC for free?
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BENEVOLENT
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>>337286195
.............no
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>>337271034
>Be a pre war civilian
>Infinite number of possibilities with this
>Ends up being a reverse Fallout 3 with the father looking for the son instead the other way around
>Plus a the shit OP said
What went wrong?
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>>337286354

Don't you lie to me.
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>>337286624
>What went wrong?
Todd.
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>>337286195
This your first bethesda game?
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>>337286624
Senpai didn't preorder.
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>>337286624

If they were truley inspired they could have taken a dragon age origins route and had multiple starting stories so players had multiple ways to approach the waste land. Were you the sickly business tycoon? The rough detective with a history of drug abuse? etc...
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>>337275087
They also introduced alien technology in 2.
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They didn't try with this game, and it shows.
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>>337285013

Reading his twitter account feels like staring into the abyss

https://twitter.com/Dezinuh/status/667126963824369664
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>>337273924
More like spooler alert.
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>>337287294
Why is that always an example? It's a optional radiant quest. It's not supposed to be open ended.
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>>337287294
IS THIS FUCKING REAL
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>>337271034
Skyrim was one of the best games of the last generation and they follow up with this shit
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>>337287297

>Shipped Fallout 4, have every new Fall release. So what am I playing?Catlateral Damage! Cause... meow!

Even he doesn't want to play it
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>>337287576
Skyrim was shit.

Skyrim mods were GOTY
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>>337287576
>Skyrim was one of the best games of the last generation

Shut the fuck up Khaled you don't know shit.
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>>337287532
Radiant quests are also most of this game's content.
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>>337287673
>little cousin comes over
>says he wants to play skyrim because he's never played
>have to spend 10 minutes making sure rape mods don't work

Wew.
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I was just playing Fallout 3 and now I can't fix a freezing on level up bug that's fucking me over. There is no way I'm buying another Bethesda game.
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>>337287659

To be fair I don't like to play my own games either. All I can see are the flaws.

Too bad he thinks Fallout 4 has no flaws.
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>>337287673
Skyrim was good stop being a contrarian.
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>>337287532
exactly, a large portion of the dialogue is exactly like this
so why, tell me, is the 4-choice dialogue wheel not only included but MANDATORY if the choices dont actually exist and its going to play a borderline identical voice line no matter what you pick
and you can understand that it is extremely frustrating to see that the player is robbed of elaborated detail in the dialogue choices ONLY for the sake of hiding the fact that theyre all the fucking same, yes
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>>337287576
>Skyrim was one of the best games of the last generation and they follow up with this shit

It's disqualified from that due to bugs and glitches.
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>>337287971
>an opinion I don't agree with? What a contrarian!

neck yourself
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>>337287532
It's a really consistent thing that happens.
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>>337287879
Not really there is plenty of quests outside of the Minutemen.
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>>337287998

Honestly the limitation to four choices makes me worried that Obsidian's exercising of their writing muscles will be severely restricted by the engine's dialogue system.
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>>337285013
>the game has to remind you that the institute is evil every 15 minutes.
>Not that you'd forget because you have more interesting stuff to do, but more like because they don't really do much anyway, why are they evil again?

Why are The Enclave in Fallout 3 evil? I'm still trying to figure that out. All I know is that they do things in a heavy handed way but there is no ultimate evil goal they are after.

You can't just tell the player that a faction is evil. They have to have real motivations.
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>>337287557
>Real? (Yes)
>Yes (Yes)
>No (But we'll add this to your quest log anyway :^)
>Sarcastic (Yes)
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>>337287971
>Skyrim was good stop being a contrarian.

It's good but it has some big flaws that disqualify it from being one of the best of its time.
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>>337288051
>an opinion I don't agree with! Kill yourself!
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>>337288272
wrong. you need to neck yourself for calling people you disagree with contrarian. that's not contrarian.

neck yourself for shitting up /v/
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>>337287971
Skyrim vanilla was pretty meh.
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>>337283175
>...shut up
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>>337288182

Isn't the player character's first interaction with them watching the Colon el kill Liam Neeson?
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>>337271034
>immorality
>
Other than that is spot on
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>>337281327
She wouldn't comply, and he didn't eant to put up with her bullshit. They already had a backup (you), so she was expendable.
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Did you tell jule that she used to be victoria?
Should she know?
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>>337281327
The better question is if Sean is such a good guy, why doesn't he hunt that fucking faggot down after he learns the truth?
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>>337271034
Somebody once told me that Todd Howard was going to make a Fallout 4 game. He was looking kind of dumb with a lazy eye on his forehead.
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>>337288668

I don't understand why they call you "the backup" when Kellog apparently thought he was going to have to kill Shaun
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>>337282156
Ghouls in the Fallout universe are not undead, they are just badly irradiated humans.
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>/v/ is butthurt by people literally copy-pasting Youtube comments
>talk tough shit to someone obviously fishing for (You)'s but too beta to actually leave 4chan to reply to the actual person who left the comment

epic, simply epic
>357
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I think Fallout 4 is pretty fun desu
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>>337288993

D E L E T E

T H IS
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>>337288458
>Isn't the player character's first interaction with them watching the Colon el kill Liam Neeson?

The officer didn't kill Liam Neeson(Dad). He executed a scientist working with Liam Neeson on the project. He shot her because Liam Neeson was trying to talk his way out of the project. Then Liam Neeson set off a radioactive explosion killing himself and the officer.

But it was never explained why the Liam Neeson was so afraid of Project Purity coming under the control of The Enclave. People never said why they were bad which would explain why Liam Neeson would kill himself to keep them from having the Technology.
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>>337289053
DAMN IT TODD LEAVE ME ALONE GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
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>>337288868
If Sean didn't survive the trip for whatever reason, the plan was to return for you. They mostly wanted him because he was so young and utterly untouched by radiation.
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>>337289140
It's because your dad read the script
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>>337285480
they need to create realistic human synths to infiltrate the groups that oppose them for making realistic human synths
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>>337280649
real fans are the people who are fucking pissed with the game you millenial shit
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>>337289140

It said it didn't want the enclave to control the water because they can pick and choose who gets clean water. Thus wiping out anyone who is a ghoul or not human. Your dad wanted clean water for everyone.
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Bethesda Fallout is like a caricature. It uses all the characters and weapons from the prior games, but manages to miss the point on why they were there to epic proportions. The Brotherhood of Steel aren't there in Fallout 3 because they wanted to delve into the politics and philosophy guiding a group like it. They're in Fallout 3 because they needed some "good guys", and to re-enforce that war never changes or some shit, completely missing the point of the original quote. Same goes for Enclave.

Even the Synths, which could've been interesting had they been in Obsidian's hands, are pastiches of Blade Runner. It's all done in reference to something (if it isn't the original games). Kinda like Borderlands.
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>>337271034
The writing for F3 and F4 won BAFTAs.

Fuck gaming awards. Even more bias towards shit that's popular than movie/tv award schemes.
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>>337273724
>I just got out of a freezer after 200 years. What's the Quincy massacre?
>I thought everyone in the commonwealth knew about the Quincy massacre by now.
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>>337281912
Kellog is over 100 years old. The game was shit but jesus pay attention.
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>>337283901
I enjoyed NV and 3 to some extent but 4 was just a shameless cash grab. They streamlined their game to appeal to a wider audience. That's the reason why a lot of people dislike 4.
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>>337289140

>he doesn't remember the Enclave's goal
>he doesn't remember our gloriously dear president Eden
>he doesn't remember the ABORTION OF SCIENCE
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What are the chances that somebody could fix up the leveling system so you could bring back skills/rebalance the perk system?
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>>337282156
he should have atleast became feral or fucking died

there's dead bodies of ghouliefied people on the game that are just in a bathtub or on a sofa, so in that case they must need some kind of sustinence
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>>337282787
you are the exact reason developers dumb down their games.
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>>337284838
Consider as well that at this point, canonically the Courier has already beaten the last three DLCs, so he/she has become a battle hardened warrior with cybernetic implants. Of course the Courier could destroy the Tunnelers.
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>>337281681
>If you find your son before going to the museum of freedom the character doesn't mention him to Preston.
>At the end of the mission Mama Murphy still tells you about seeing your son and your character still asks where they are.
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>>337289538
The Enclave's goal wasn't Autumn's goal. The Enclave had no idea that Eden wanted to poison everyone for no reason at all. Autumn only knew that he was supposed to secure the purifier.

Even if the Enclave had one consistent goal that they all agreed on, Dad had no way of knowing what their plan was anyway, so killing himself still makes no sense.
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>>337289860
MMOOOOOOOOOOOODDDSS!
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>>337289709

>Most vital organs are safely stored at think tank
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>>337289385
Seems redundant when clean water was relatively easy to come by. Why didn't they just replicate the purifier inside Megaton inside Rivet City? It's as if it's old world tech because Megaton is made from bits of planes.
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>>337288868
I got the vibe that Kellog said you were back up, because he knew you'd come with a vengeance and take down the Institute, because deep down Kellog was fucking sick of his life (He's 100 years old) and hated them.

But you're probably right.
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PRE WAR VERTIBIRDS

FEV ON A FUCKING VAULT
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>>337289385
>It said it didn't want the enclave to control the water because they can pick and choose who gets clean water. Thus wiping out anyone who is a ghoul or not human. Your dad wanted clean water for everyone.

But as it is nobody gets clean water. Dad decided that it was better that the "Evil" Enclave shouldn't have the water cleaning tech if everyone else doesn't. Why is it so important that the Enclave not get tech to clean water? Why are they so much more dangerous than the BoS?

So instead of working with them to finish the tech and then leaking out the secret info to everyone else later he killed himself. It just made him look dumb.

>he doesn't remember the Enclave's goal
>he doesn't remember our gloriously dear president Eden
>he doesn't remember the ABORTION OF SCIENCE

I'm playing FO3 right now. I haven't gotten to that part yet because Bethesda makes shitty bugged games that CTD or freeze. I can't level up now without freezing. I can't play the game anymore.
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>>337290070
JUST

TURN

OFF

YOUR

BRAIN

LMAO XD
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>>337282787
>>337283175
>>337283901
>>337279042
https://youtu.be/VGsrMaxx8N4?t=385
>6:25
>Todd Howard brings us another video game! Yes: shooting! Monsters! Minimal dialogue! Bad dialogue! Explosions! A confusing plot! But who cares? You fill your face with popcorn, you dumb fat cows! Eat the slop before the slaughter you fucking pigs!
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>>337284647
The problem with this is that almost no one should know about the enclave, even less so that the east coast should know anything so fucking specific about the west coast.
It's just lazy writing there to please oldfags and brings nothing interesting to the table.

If you want to know how to do it well, just look at Marcus in Jacob's Town. Fallout 1/2 fans will get right away what he is talking about, while the majority will be presented with a neat little backstory that actually gives the town more character.
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>>337290045

No that's true. But it was always in disrepair.

But yet you have this huge purifier and you can also use it to cure those of radiation. A big source of water for everyone. Free.
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Bethesda ripped off tank girl in 3

and Lost in 4

I bet the story in Elder Scrolls 6 will be terrible. Give Elder Scrolls to Zenimax Online Studios. They did a great job with stories in about 600000000 quests in ESO.
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>>337290070
I never got why the didn't just make the Super Mutants in F3 just a bunch of really fucked off Ghouls?

87 had a bomb directly hit it, hence the huge 8000 rads per second entrance. But no of course Bethesda confused West Tek and Vault Tec, and turned Ghouls into a punch of dindus.
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>>337281681

The worst NPC is Connie at Abernathy Farm

You walk up in full power armour and she says "sorry, we're not hiring, try warwick homestead

Or she says something about not liking strangers even though 1 minute ago she was offering you a bj for getting her daughters locket back

NPCs are beyond retarded, even the Oblivion conversations were better than this
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>>337290323
they're just as worse
>fanciful portrayals and transcription errors
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>>337290336
>I never got why the didn't just make the Super Mutants in F3 just a bunch of really fucked off Ghouls?

I think the Super Mutants are just Super Lane in general. They should be ignored and left out of other games.
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Far harbor suggest that the you might be a synth
thoughts?
i guess
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>Fallout: A Post Nuclear Role Playing Game
>10 ending slides, 9 of which are variable

>Fallout 2
>20 ending slides, 13 of which are variable

>Fallout: New Vegas
>30 ending slides, 28 of which are variable

>Fallout 4
>5 ending slides, 1 of which is variable
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>>337290232
It's as if radiation was hard to cure. If you can make radaway, why not just a vat of it inside a water purifier?

>>337290323
>ripped off tank girl
Good lord you're right. I forgot about the big bad controlling the water purifiers and not giving it to the outsiders. You even have that weird fetish bar in F3 with that explicit Russian guy who fucks two whores.
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>>337290464
Who the fuck cares
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>>337290462
Should have just left them and the Centaurs as a west coast only phenomenon.
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I could forgive the gameplay if the writing was decent. But even companion are only a step above skyrim companion and six steps behind a real character.
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>>337290464
you're talking out your arse and this has been debunked in the vanilla game 100000 times.
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>>337289456
This is one of the biggest gaming mysteries of all time, the fact that Fallout 3 won a best writing award. NOTHING in Fallout 3 makes sense. It's one of the most incoherent, disjointed, and nonsensical stories in the history of video games, with giant plot holes and inconsistencies at every turn. It's far worse than Fallout 4.
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>>337290730
I would have all the companions in my Lucky 38 villa.

I couldn't stand having any of the Fallout 4 companions in my settlement. They're so out of place and shit minus Mememeat.
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>>337290506
So when's the real FO4 coming out, IE the one made by a superior company with the same engine?
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>>337290464

Think Shawn would have laid that revelation on your ass as you're blowing up his base. Especially if you went brotherhood. That would have be an awkward vertibird ride back to the air ship.
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>>337289218

They had an entire fucking vault full of people untouched by radiation. "Let's kill all of them but the baby and babby parent"
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>>337290730
>>337290870
>put all of my companions in sactuary
>TINKER TINKER TINKER
>WHAT'S THE ANGLE HERE?
>WANT SOMEONE TO EAT
>I COULD GO FOR A DRINK
>SO MUCH WALKING
>BARK
>WANT TO DO MORE FIGHTING
>I WONDER IF ZE REST OF ZE WORLD IS LIKE ZE COMMONWEALTH
>NOT MANY SUPERMUTANTS
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>>337283175
You're Morgyn.

Are you not?
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>>337291213
Standard Institute Procedure.

KILL EVERYONE
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>>337290918
I hate to say but probably never. They're making Tyranny now and some shitty tank game, plus they lost Chris Avellone and John Gonzalez. and even if they did I'm not sure if Shithesda would allow them to reverse the voiced protagonist dialogue wheel faggotry
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>>337281718
Speaking of Skyrim.

5 years later and i'm still hype'd especially that there are top-kek quality quest mods coming out in the next months that bethesda can't match.
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>>337284312
>the excuse of retards who can't form a coherent thought.
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>>337287914
L-link to mods?
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>>337291852
Not him. but I use defeat. It's on loverslab.
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>>337290730

>pick a few locks
>piper suddenly loves you and thinks you are best friends

>take some drugs
>cait loves you

Also I hate their pathfinding. They just run all over the fucking place and wander off when you need them
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>>337290506
Who gives a shit about ending slides in a game you don't have to stop playing?
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>>337291282
yeah this is the worst offender of it, they're repeated lines fucking did my head in so I just sent them all to one place well away from my town.

it's stupid as fuck that you can't tell the quest companions to go back to their places, like Piper and Valentine back to Diamond City.

I h8 Bethesda
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>>337291852
http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19588-sexlab-index/
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>>337281681
This is the highest form of autism. If you can't think why Danse would call you a civilian, I really feel bad for you. Doing anything requiring even the slightest bit of imagination must be impossible for you.
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>>337291365

Fallout 2 was able to give us both satisfactory ending slides and post-game free roam three generations ago
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>>337292657
When you dismiss them do not assign them to a settlement.
They will return to their initial home.
Once you assign them to a settlement you are SOL I believe.
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>>337274627
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Secret_of_Cabot_House
This whole quest was fucking ridiculous. (Was still pretty fun but it was fucking ridiculous)
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>>337293340
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Jack_Cabot
And here's the immortal guy himself
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>>337292507
there's still a story you have to finish, and Fallout is all about the choices you make during the game, which is why it's cool to see the epilogue of how your choices affected the wasteland
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The post at >>337292901 was meant for >>337292507
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The lore and story was literally the only reason I played any fallout titles. The gameplay is boring af and now the lore and story have gone to shit, Fallout is dead.
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What do normies get out of this game? Like, what does Fallout 4 do better than anything like GTA V can do? At least when I play GTA V I get a decent story and gameplay. I am so fucking bored when I play Fallout 4, I can't understand why people buy it and say it's "amazing."
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>>337291852
How is it people still don't know about this? Must be the newest faggot on the internet
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>>337284840
You seem knowledgeable on such things. Let me ask you something. Could you hire someone outside of the VA guild to do voices in your game? Whats stopping companies from doing that?
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>Streloggs Cereal and suited helper open door to babby
>Spouse immediately starts flipping out instead of doing some sort of resume of thought to when cryo-sleep initiated
I never got this. It wasn't even a huge change except for the fact that there weren't Vault-Tec guys wandering around in front like aimless robots.
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>>337277870
Wait when did this happen? I stopped playing right after I met father and couldn't ask any questions. Is there actually a reason behind people being kidnapped?
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>>337279421
It was kinda haphazardly implied that they used them to influence topside, such as how the mayor of Diamond City was a synth. Of course, it was never developed from there, despite you being able to enter the Institute and snoop around freely.
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>>337294918
That's from FAH HAAHBAH
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>>337271034
>tfw installed the survival update and realized it turn off mods so now I will have to redownload the game all over again

Fucking Bethesda. I never had to reinstall any of my modded games before.
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>Retards acting like FO2 had absolutely NO continuity errors with 1
>Retards acting like supernatural stuff is not Fallout even though there was a (canonical) ghost in Fallout 2
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>>337271903
JASON
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>>337273563
what else is there to enjoy in the game?
the """"fun"""" shooting mechanics?
the PS3 launch title graphics?
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HATES
NEWSPAPERS
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>>337295546
that means nothing to me.
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>>337282156
Ghouls need to eat and drink.
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>>337295949
See Point Lookout ?

Well Far Harbor is a rehash of it.
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>>337295949
The new DLC genius
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>>337282506
>everything dies.
No.
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>>337284919
Holy shit. They're fucking retarded.
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>>337284919
>create a game universe with history and laws
>defy those laws and rewrite the history

but nah, fuck that. bethesda cock tastes so much better
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>>337286913
>truley inspired
>dragon age origins
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Is survival mode any good? It seems interesting but the no saves mechanic sounds like a pain in the dick.
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