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If you summoned a phantom for a boss, you didn't really
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If you summoned a phantom for a boss, you didn't really beat the game.
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>if you used a game mechanic, you didn't beat the game

ok buddy
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If you beat a boss by hitting it with a weapon, you didn't really beat the game.
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>>337249264
/thread
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>>337249264
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>>337249264
i'm replying to this post
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If you summoned a phatom(s) to kill an invader, your a fucking shit uninstall the game.
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>>337249264
pɐǝɹɥʇ/
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>>337249264
/thread
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Quads
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If you

>used a shield
>abused poise
>summoned a phantom
>used an OP weapon
>grinded
>used any guides
>used magic of any sort

Then you didn't beat the game in my eyes.
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>>337249264
/thread
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>>337249264
/thread
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If you beat the game, then you didn't beat the game.
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>>337249264
/thread
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>>337249264
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>>337249738
>DS3
>poise

(You)
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>>337249264
/thread
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>>337249805

>one of the easiest souls games in the series and you still summoned a phantom to help walk your casual ass over the finish line
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>cheese the fuck out of Pontiff

yes. i did. because this game fucks you over for fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUZPBk6osY

>go into boss fight right as summoned
>die in other world
>spawn in Pontiff's room
>he will not attack
>profit

fuck your game.
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>>337249264
BACKSLASHSPACETHREAD
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>>337249897
dont worry lad I summoned in other games too. Keeping it consistent, you know
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>>337248785
DS 3 was my first souls game and first controller using game in years, because of you fags I played it all blind, solo no summons, never embered, and melee only. Hard as fuck for me but I beat every boss and even one shotted Aldrich. Did I do good /v/?
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>>337249738
Such a great fanbase
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>>337249264
this tbqh my fellow top cucks BANE???
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>>337249264
>/threddit
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>>337250063
Oh yeah, and it would have been fucking nice to have not played blind since I missed the hollowing stuff with the pilgrim when he randomly died after I progressed, but I didn't wiki Shit.
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>>337250063
>>337250414
well done, the rest of this thread is full of total embarrassments
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>>337250620
Look at all those summon babbies
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The bosses are built around single-player. If you summon he gets more HP but it's irrelevant. The beautiful dance of player vs AI is broken
if you summon you are basically saying "i can't do this, please help me giantdad"

you can't prove me wrong
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>>337249264
>All these casuals

Wew
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>>337249264
boards.4chan.org/thread
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If you played Dark Souls, you didn't beat it.

Dark Souls difficulty transcends reality. To claim victory is to claim godhood. You're not a filthy sinner, are you anon? Dark Souls is the greatest and most difficult game of all time, who the fuck do you think you are.
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How can people seriously claim this series is difficult when summons and player messages exist? It's basically a built-in trainer and walkthrough.
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>>337250063
You didn't use fists casual fuck off.
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Didn't give a fuck about summoning for shit like deacons or crystal sage but I solo'd stuff like Nameless King and Soul of cinder and whatnot for fun. Fight me faggot
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>>337249264
>used game cheat codes
>i-its part of the game
no faggot, now go beat it alone
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>G-Guys, turning the game to easy mode is a game mechanic, I- I still beat the game just like you did!
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>>337250006
just drink bleach
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>>337252604
>implying that summoning is a cheat code

wew lad
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>>337249738
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>>337252424
>>337252604


> All this salt

You're all just as pathetic.
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>>337248785
And if you parry bosses you didn't either.
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>>337249738
>poise

>implying turning on poise through the ini ISNT a hack
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>>337248785
If you used the Estus Flask or healing items, you didn't really beat the game.
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>yfw every host does pontiff room glitch against invaders
The fuck. How is that even fun for you, sitting behind a fog wall? Just fight me you faggot.
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>>337252771
>I-i-i-i-it's ok to summon!
>y-you're all pathetic!
you should go replay dark souls and this time try to beat it
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>>337251201

Depends on the boss.

Sometimes fights against multiple enemies work better in a pair. You can solo Ornstein and Smough, but most people do it with the poor AI getting caught up on the pillars and each other. Abyss Watchers was probably the first multi-enemy fight where the multiple enemies felt like they were actually aware of each other, and that's only because they fought each other. These fights are harder alone, but not necessarily better designed.

Plus, bosses like Wolnir or Greatwood have such massive sweeping attacks, that the individual person they're targeting makes little difference. Small bosses who focus on one target are sitting ducks for the attacks of other players, but a large boss can easily hit targets it wasn't aiming for.
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>>337252860
Look at how mad you are. You just answered your own question
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>>337252941
Didn't say that but sure bud.
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>>337252714
>there's an easy mode in Dark Souls
>he'd rather waste his time getting to fight a boss rather than having fun with his friends
look at this fuckin guy

>tfw I summoned for every game
>tfw literally nobody would know the difference
how does it feel to know that your 'hard mode' win l i t e r a l l y doesn't matter :^)
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>>337248785
This might be shitposting, but it's in essence, completely true.

If your self-worth is so low that you resort to using a developer-mandated beat-the-game-for-me-pls cheat mode, then surely you should be able to admit you didn't properly beat the game?
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If you beat Dark Souls 3 at all, using any method, you didn't really beat it because it's way too hardcore to be beaten by casuals like you.
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>>337249264
/fred
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I summoned for Abyss Watchers.
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>>337252326
Player messages help with jack shit other than illusory walls, and that's not really a matter of difficulty.
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>>337253149
How many hours do you have logged into hello kitty island adventure?
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Abandon thread, obvious bait has been spotted.

Soulsfag elitists can't defend their arguments against summoning.
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>>337252326
if you play online you didn't really beat the game
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I summoned on my pyromancer character for pontiff and it didn't make a difference, even though I took most of the aggro and my summon did like probably 300 damage total, I still absolutely destroyed him with great chaos fire orb, it pretty much immediately destroys his copy while doing tremendous damage to him.
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>overleveled
>great shield
>rolling
>sumoned
>magic
>blocked
>straight sword
>online
>steam
>ds3
>NG
>died
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>>337253546

>Illusory Walls
>Not a matter of difficulty

DaS3 is actually really good about it's Illusory Walls. The areas unlocked by them can almost always be seen from some other vantage point in the level, allowing the player to work out that there's some area they don't know how to get to, and from it's location you can figure out where the wall is.
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>>337253631
200, you casual faggot
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Is playing a spellcaster in DaS3 hard mode, or easy mode? Stuff seems hyper aggressive, and cast times are garbage
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>>337255117
pyromancer: easy mode
spellcaster: hard mode

you get really good pyromancies quite early on, definitely before the hardest bosses in the game, but spellcasters pretty much just have great heavy soul arrow and GMW until the archives.
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>>337252714
>turning the game to easy mode

Summoning doesn't turn the game into easy mode.

It turns the game into auto mode.
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>>337249897

>weeaboo opinion

no one cares rofl
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>>337250063
>One shotted Aldrich
NO YOU FUCKING DIDN'T YOU RETARD! One shotted means to kill in one hit. You might have killed him in one attempt but you did not kill him in one hit you fucking idiot. Use the right term.
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>>337255416
>summon 2 blokes for nameless king
>both die within seconds once phase 2 starts
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If you played dark souls 2 then you didn't beat bloodborne
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>>337248785
>said an autistic manchild on /v/
Ok.
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>>337249264
yeah it's the same "mechanic" as Luigi helping you beat a stage out of pity in the wii SMBs.
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>>337256093
you're flipping shit on a vietnamese vacuum cleaning board reevaluate your life
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>>337256613
if calling me names makes you feel better about being a casual that's ok you can do it :)
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>>337249264
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>>337248785
that's why i didn't summon :)
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>>337256093
>One shotted means to kill in one hit

SEMANTICS, MOTHERFUCKER

YOU KNOW PRECISELY WHAT HE MEANT
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>>337252774
I did actually feel bad about having to parry Pontiff in order to get past his first phase without being two-shot. Equipping a shield alone felt like blasphemy, since I was going with a full dual-wield build. I had 15 Vigor at the time and was getting bodied. Could argue that a less skilled person wouldn't be able to parry him regardless, but that still doesn't change the fact that I felt bad for parrying. Still felt good to actually beat the cunt, though.
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>>337256093
Shot = Try
This is not a fps game, you are using swords and magic stuff instead of guns that shoot
So "one shotting" makes perfect sense as a synonym for killing him in one try
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>>337248785
What if I did this for a couple bosses, i.e. the nameless king but beat the final boss alone on the first try?
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If I liked DS3 a lot, would I like DS2 Scholars of What ever?
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>>337249264
This. Cheat codes are a game mechanic so I beat Doom with iddqd and idkfa all day erryday. No one can tell me I didn't really beat it.
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>>337258372
Final Boss isn't that hard though.
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>>337258536
Probably not. DS2 is trash.
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I've never played a Souls Game so have no idea if the OP is right but I play a lot of shmups and let me tell you, if you beat the last boss with more than one credit you didn't really beat the game. All this sarcastic "if you used a game mechanic, you didn't beat the game" is dumb. Some mechanics are broken and actually prevent you from experiencing the game in the best way. So instead of being butthurt little faggots because someone is downplaying your achievements in a fucking videogame, maybe you should open your mind a little and listen because you might find a even better game hidden beneath the surface.
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>>337258536
Yeah. Ignore the contrary hipsters who say otherwise. The story's shit, but the gameplay is vastly improved over DaS1. DaS3 is much faster paced and frenetic - similar to Bloodborne, whereas DaS2 is closer to a polished DaS1 formula. Miyazaki's disciples were a little too afraid to step too far out of their master's shadow. The DLC's excellent, which can be said of any of the Souls games. I am greatly looking forward to DaS3's DLC
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>>337258959
>I've never played Souls
so your opinion is worthless
it's not even close to being comparable to shmup credits. you earn credits through performing well throughtout the game.
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>game requires you to summon NPCs for certain bosses to advance their questline or get stuff
>you need to fuck up a boss fight since the AI obviously can't handle multiple targets if you don't want to miss out
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>>337260896
>game requires you to get killed by certain NPC invaders in order to learn particular emotes

Thanks, From
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Is /v/ mostly casuals? Every single time one of these threads get made SWARMS of butthurt casuals who summoned come flocking in taking it to the next level saying if you played the game at all you didn't beat it.
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>>337261429
Who? Knight Slayer Tsorig? If you weren't a shitter didn't die there you would know you also get it from killing him.

I died there a few times. Started bringing the Black Knight from upstairs down to him to make things easier.
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>>337248785

Reminder that if you levelled up, rolled, blocked or parried. You didn't really beat the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0WlFd7vHtk
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>summon for boss
>boss locks on phantom
>phantom just keeps walking backwards while host and other phantoms pummel boss
>boss picks new target
>new target just keeps walking backwards while other phantoms pummel boss
>rinse and repeat
>do this for entire game
>gets mad when others call you out for being a casual

I get it, it's just a game and to each their own. Play it however you want. Honestly though if you did summon and threads like these get under your skin you have only yourself to blame.
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It's bad in Souls and much worse in Monster Hunter

>hey guys lets co-op
>what do we fight
>how about G-Rank Black Darkness Dragon Rex
>whoa I dunno if I can do it
>lets do it anyway
>dead in 5 seconds
>dragon rex crystals x99
Gee thanks Giantdad
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>>337249674
Invasions mean no rules. You shouldn't complain either when invading and being met by a 3 or more man crew.
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>>337258174
No it doesn't you cuck. In dark souls you still have people saying things like x boss's attack can one shot you. Do you think they mean that the boss can kill you on its first try? No they mean that the boss can kill you in one hit.
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So what if I had three phantoms babysit me through the level and fight the boss for me while I answered the phone in the corner of the arena, if it's in the game then why shouldn't I be allowed to do this?
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