What went wrong?
Not enough people playing it.
Nothing wrong with the game itself.
That is all.
Its not CoD4
It's not on Steam
nothing, it's just not finished and not being advertised at all.
nothing you colossal retard, because it's still in pre-alpha. Not even beta. Not even alpha. PRE-alpha
kys
Niche audience
>>337247042
A multiplayer game without players is now considered a good thing?
early access
>>337246746
It didn't gain any steam and they basically gave up on it and gave it to the community and said "here you fuck with it we're bailing" So it's in permanent pre alpha lol. I expect any day now epic will formally announce they dropped it.
>>337246746
Oh shit is this the new Overwatch hero?
Why the fuck would they add another sniper if we already have Widow...
>>337247323
>A multiplayer game without players is now considered a good thing?
Yes, many players=cancer.
Few players = comfy.
>S-Sorry guys we're going back to Titan since nobody likes our game :(
>>337246746
Not on steam.
It should be soon though.
>>337247351
>>337247323
>>337247292
>>337247726
what is this autism I'm witnessing? Did summer finally start?
First of all, UT was massively popular. It hasn't had a dedicated title for years.
Secondly, the game isn't finished, and barely any advertising hasn't been done. Wow, an unfinished game with no advertising that's still in development isn't massively popular at the moment, holy shit STOP THE PRESSES
>>337247323
SC BW is infinitely better then SC2 and yet SC BW has like 1/50 of the SC2 playerbase.
What does the amount of partakers have to do with the game it self? For example, fighting games have always had a very small and dedicated community.
>>337246746
I enjoy it and play it whenever I feel like playing a shooter.
That said the majority of people don't want to play an old school arena shooter. I suspect part of the reason being that the difference between a good player and new player is fucking staggering.
Someone can easily go like 50 and 0 in a pub game if they're good enough. You wouldn't really see this is most other shooters these days. I could take some kills off of the best CoD player and likely even a godlike CS-GO player. Drop me in a game with a godlike Unreal or Quake player and they'll likely never even run out of armour.
i like seeing the same people on the servers every day, it's pretty chill.
>>337247945
If it was really being developed there would be almost constant updates and content made to the game at least on a weekly bases. It has nothing. It's being treated as a side/back burner project that they develop when they feel like it
>>337247945
>and barely any advertising hasn't been done
True. Barely any advertisement hasn't been done.
Is he in the game?
>>337248223
>If it was really being developed there would be almost constant updates and content made to the game at least on a weekly bases.
except, that's exactly what's fucking happening. New maps, bug fixes, and balance changes come quite often
>It has nothing. It's being treated as a side/back burner project that they develop when they feel like it
Except that it's starting to get mainstream attention from big FPS youtubers and 3D modelers for the unreal engine.
Why would you do this? Just go on the internet and spout uninformed, objectively incorrect bullshit? What do you gain?
>>337246746
I really like the game itself but the server browser and quick join options are so fucking shitty I don't wanna bother with finding a match. Also the scoreboard at the end of the match takes too long in my opinion, I just wanna get to the shooting part already and not waste time with the boring shitty parts.
>>337246746
>alright everyone, chill!
Sprinting and sliding
No female Liandribots
>>337246746
Early access. And >>337247158
>>337248668
With that being said, if they start advertising the game about few days after d44m release, I think they'll get lots of players as the new doom fails to deliver the good old arena shooter experience. It'll be like a ray of hope for the old school players
>>337246746
ever since TORtanic, /v/ has had this obsession with "what went wrong?"
every game that isn't amazingly popular is decried as a complete failure, simply because it wasn't a massive success.
This could not be further from the truth. The game is still very young, and has not had the same amount of advertising as Overwatch. Prominent streamers were given overwatch access, tacobell advertised overwatch, blizzard even made cinematic shorts for it.
The new UT has been quiet, but steadily developed and improved, with frequent content updates, as well as full-map texturing. It's in its infant stages, but to say "what went wrong?" is absurd
>gameplay is fun
>graphics are great
>fucking dead
Seriously every time I get on there's MAYBE 1 populated server. They need to advertise this shit. I want it to be successful.
>>337248921
Oh they WILL advertise this shit.
Especially to the wannabe pro gamer kids, or the Twitch crowd.
Enjoy playing with them.
this is probably the only game ever where /v/ asked for MORE advertisement
>>337247840
This has to be bait. This is Bioware fan levels of madness and delusion.
Anyway, it doesn't help there is no on-game moderation and report function. People are still being put off joining the community because you get toxic faggots calling people niggers and homosexuals generally being little cunts.
>>337248363
No, hardly any characters are in the game. There are, like, 4 characters or something.
>>337246746
My computer can't run it
>>337249109
>because you get toxic faggots calling people niggers and homosexuals generally being little cunts.
so you've never actually played the game.
the ut community is one of the friendliest online communities out there.
>>337246746
nothing, still in pre-alpha
>>337249109
>inb4 someone says those kids will gone once the game releases
Most definitely not.
>>337248756
>No female Liandribots
This is a significant flaw
It's just not fun.
>>337249428
generation Z, everyone.
>>337249360
>disgusting UC2 bots
get out of my sight
>>337249219
I played the game. That's why I am bringing them up. I don't let them bother me, but others may not be so stern.
Don't get so defensive man, I actually like this game. Yes-Men and Fanboys are agents of ruin and stagnation, but I'm actually concerned that modern toxic gamers will turn people away from joining in the UT fandom.
It's not about UT fans being nice, it's about modern gamers being shit and them just so happening to choose to shit up this games community. You are not friendly based purely on the virtue that you are playing UT.
You can go to the UT message boards and see instances of fan boys and yes-men treating people who make any kind of critique like total garbage.
>>337249462
Fuck off.
>>337249462
are you going to say why you think he is from Generation Z or just make a sarcastic meme response without context? You look more like someone from a shitty generation than he does.
>>337249109
>>337249219
UT community is nice. People say "nice shot" when you get a headshot. You get commended for your skill, and people help you improve.
It would be nice for this game to get as big as CSGO, but hopefully the garbage community won't translate over as well.
>ZOMG I JUST UNBOXED A $200 SKIN ON STREAM *GASP*
>You headshotted me! you're a hacker! I'm reporting you to overwatch!
>You're a nigger because I don't like you. I only use that word because it makes other people around me upset, and I want to see them get angry when I'm vitriolic
please no
>>337249647
I see what you're saying, "modern gamers" have all the toxicity of competitive players but without the dedicated and passion to the game. However, my experience since spring 2015 has been very good. Everyone's nice. Only two games have I had a person call another a hacker or trash talk
SFK released too early.
>>337249679
>>337249756
not him, but UT4 is very close to UT99, a beloved classic. The insult he used here implies that you've never played the games and enjoyed them in their whole glory.
I kind of agree with him. CSGO is a dumb downed, crappy version of 1.6. Mobas are cancer. Minecraft is shit. Cod is shit. And this amazing, skill based arena shooter where you can out skill your opponent and absolutely destroy him, he says "it's just not fun"?
why is it not fun? too slow? too fast? too hard to aim? he doesnt elaborate, he just gives up, like someone from gen Z would.
>>337250162
>CSGO is a dumb downed, crappy version of 1.6
Elaborate.
>>337250162
I've played every Unreal Tournament game that was on PC. I miss customizing bots from the original game, though... Facing off against players is great and all, but there was a certain charm to using a mod like X-Bots to give yourself hundreds of bot slots and then creating tons and tons of characters, with varied models, skins, voices, and so forth. What crazy characters would you face this time?
I miss bots and being able to easily customize characters. How did they manage to make it less accessible in UT2003 onward?
I felt that Unreal Tournament 3 was a betrayal of the fandom, which was more concerned with marketing to Gears of War fans than to actual Unreal Tournament fans. It didn't even have the Unreal Tournament in it.
>>337250674
>now this is podracing.jpg
At least the UT4 Flak cannon looks fantastic.
>>337250691
whoops, wrong webm
>>337250691
>a player clearly lagged out
>csgo in a nutshell
no one gives a shit about arcade FPS games because they're shit
>>337250674
>Is that a fucking spaceship
Looks like something from Destiny, people called it the space bus.
>>337250814
nice
>>337250674
The UT3 Flak Cannon actually looks like a spreadshot weapon, I prefer it 2bh
>>337246746
They fell for the "3-5 years of Early Access" meme
>>337246746
It isnt out?
Seriously fix it up and release it, Im itching for it
>>337250956
I think it looks more like a rocket launcher. That kind of design could work for a weaker, rapid-fire micro-rocket launcher.
Personally I'd like to see them add every iteration of every weapon to UT4 so we can choose what versions we want to use. This isn't a very important feature of course, so I wouldn't expect it until they've got more important things down. I remember UT2004 let you choose between several iterations of weapons.
>>337251316
UT2004 only let you choose between the 2004 and the 2003 models, and that only applied to some of the weapons.
>>337250956
But what about the mortar shell?
The Flak cannon only acts as a shotgun because you explode the shell while it's still in the gun so all the pointy stuff gets sprayed out the end.
>>337246746
Literally just a lack of advertising.
Same reason why Team Fortress 2 still sees play, after all these years. It's an F2P game with VERY good advertising.
Same reason why Fallout 4 moved huge units, despite being a shitheap. Good advertising.
>Going on killing sprees with the Impact-Hammer.
>Bio-Tower
>ULTRA KILL
Are people playing CtF yet? Last time I checked nobody was, it was all deathmatch.
>>337251840
There's a large barrel in the center
>>337252770
That's where the spread shot is coming from too, though. So what's the point of the weird scaffolding stuff?
>>337252770
That's not a large barrel at all. That's a tiny barrel.
>>337246746
UT style movement was, and still is, complete total dog shit.
>>337248840
Fucking neo/v/, 12 year olds changing the shittiness of this board
>>337246746
Your abortion.
>>337247840
I wouldn't mind more people playing Blacklight.
>get bored
>install UT99
>check server browser
>there's still people playing fucking UT99
>>337250691
What's the point of face cams ?
Why would anybody want to watch his greasy face.
>>337248756
>sliding
>flaw
I bet you hate wallrun/jump
>>337254450
Teenagers and normies love the feeling of social interaction. They don't value anonymity at all.
If you've ever been in a clan/server/guild/whatever that was torn apart by people who felt that meeting up was necessary and proceeded to create a tidal wave of drama, the same principle applied.
>>337248363
>based Xan kriegor
mah nigga
Do you think there will be possibly a large exodus from csgo to ut4? when it comes out fully of course
>>337246746
>game not even out of pre alpha
>what went wrong
>>337254245
Nigga people play fucking Age of Empires 1 to this day
>>337248363
>>337250814
He is not good with the rockets as he is with the sniper.
The community servers are fucking awful.
Just give some simple ass team/ffa deathmatch
>>337246746
I don't care about graphics and I would rather play UT99 or 04 than deal with the shit of a game in beta testing.
>>337260214
CHEEKI BREEKI
>>337249109
>This has to be bait. This is Bioware fan levels of madness and delusion.
Maybe some people aren't edgelord tryhards that want MUH ESPORTS cancer community that comes with every popular online game
>>337260676
There is absolutely no defense for what was said in >>337247840
It's this kind of delusion and vapidity that causes new games to die.
>>337246746
practically anyone who's really interested in arena-fps would switch over to Quake in time. UT's movement system and weapon balance is just vastly inferior to Quake.
>>337260953
>>337260676
the issue with games that have big communities and are esports driven is that it creates a sense of ego for everyone, but there's not consequence to having a shitty personality
If you get shot in the head in CSGO, there's something wrong with the other player. They MUST be doing some cheesy strategy, or the game engine is in their favor, or it's lag, or the game has bad design or whatever.
Those players must not accept the fact that they are perhaps worse at the game at all costs. And if they do admit someone is better than them, then that person 'has no life'.
Having a large community where you won't be seeing some of the same faces ever again, you can afford to be an asshat. With a smaller community, and less pressure to be 'the best', it creates a friendlier environment where you can't openly be an asshole to someone every single day
>>337261250
I dislike how you only use 3 guns in quake. There's no reason to use anything other than the RL, lightning gun, or rail rifle, unless you lack all three of those.
Also, the lightning gun is bullshit. No gun should be extra high damage, constant hitscan, with global range. Hitscan is inherently bad for an arena fps unless it's a one shot (sniper like gun) or close range, like a shotgun.
The weapon variety in UT is also greater. Although not all guns are super powerful, they all have a place and a strength. The biorifle can't be used to fight an enemy directly, but it can be used as something to create traps, or let you know where your opponent is. Every gun in UT has some special niche ability that adds to the map strategy and control, rather than camping red armor and quad damage over and over with rails, rockets, and lightning.
>>337246746
Nothing.
It's an alpha with little advertising, intended for all of those who actually care and used to play UT, in order to have way better feedback from players.
I've been playing it almost every night, there is usually a 50-100 player online count, not to mention the PUG servers, where the most skilled dudes are (and these won't show up on the main hub list, giving you the "dead game" feel).
The only thing they are doing wrong is not considering bringing the game to steam after it's done. Steam, if anything, is a necessary evil to bring more players and longevity to games.
>>337261930
Ubisoft is cancer, but at least they have the brains to understand that going through steam is how you get your games to sell more.
I heard a lot of people refused to get bf3 and bf4 simply because they didn't want origin on their PC's
>>337250814
>tfw this was done by a brazillian girl
>>337262315
They want to sell cosmetics and have some sort of steam market system done by themselves, i can see why they don't want to move to Steam and lose on profit.
But i'd wager the increased player count from listing it into steam would be far more benefitial than having its own market.
>>337250162
>CSGO a dumbed-down 1.6
???
>>337254245
Nigga, there are people playing Roller Coaster Tycoon 1 online (thanks to a mod).
>>337246746
I have a toaster so I can't run it.
I put 150 hours easily in UT3 onxbox 360
The game is still in alpha, they don't have that many players because they don't want that many or advertise it right now. Still decent amount of players that play though.
Also fags like /v/ would rather play casual shit like Overwatch, even though UT is a casual version of Quake.
>>337262608
>/v/ doesn't know shit about games, especially competitive games.
Nigga stop being retarded
>>337246746
It's not out yet
>>337262723
You can set it into potato mode and pretty much any PC can run it.
>>337246746
UT3 fame got in their heads too much
>>337260953
>It's this kind of delusion and vapidity
Post a single big popular online game that doesn't have a terrible cancerous community?
>>337262980
>states literally nothing to back the claim up
>immediately resorts to ad hominem
Nigga I just wanted you to elaborate in your point.
>>337263138
Blood Bowl
>>337263149
Not him but shit should be obvious if you played them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgJLqCwDmuo
>>337263358
>Implying I don't play both
>implying simple even presented an argument with a single shred of evidence or a larger point
>implying it's still 2013
>>337263228
>big popular online game
>Blood Bowl
No, that's the example of the exact thing I'm talking about, a much smaller game (and usually non-f2p) compared to stuff like LoL, Dota 2, Hearthstone or CSGO that's good because it's not a meme game infested with shitty e-celeb steamers, e-sports celebs, "girl gamers" and similar shit that bring on cancerous fanbases
>>337261902
>The biorifle can't be used to fight an enemy directly,
Sure it can. What's more humiliating than rounding a corner and getting slimed by a fully charged cottage cheese shot?
>>337264041
Oh I agree that the smaller the community, the fewer the fuckheads, usually.
>>337251467
>tfw I preferred the other rocket launcher design
>>337252947
Maybe its to hold the main barrel together since it will be under explosive force.
>>337264339
>Winning a duel when your opponent has full health, armor and a flak, while all you have is a fully-charged bio-rifle
B I O H A Z A R D
>>337264589
The other one has too much shit sticking out all over the place.
I actually think the original Rocket Launcher from the first game was hideous.
>>337246746
People remembered just how difficult arena shooters actually are.
>>337265038
The original RL looks hideous because it's a half-assed update of the Unreal Eightball Launcher, and like the 8ball, they had to stuff half a dozen barrels onto the end of the fucking thing.
>>337265151
I consider them easier and more fun than shit like Call of Duty, Battlefield, etc... Those games are about who sees who first and who was lucky enough their bullets hit the enemy. Dying in a few bullets isn't very fun.
>>337265651
>he doesn't like instagib
>>337265651
>Dying in a few bullets isn't very fun.
But KILLING in a few bullets is much easier.
>>337266272
Literally the worst game mode
>>337266272
I don't, becausei'm have ~190ms from being brazillian and i can't land sniper/shock shots for shit
>>337265151
Engaging in competitive PUGs is difficult.
UT4 is easy. You just run and gun. Not hard if you like shooter games.
>>337261902
LG doesn't have global range. Every gun in Quake has a purpose.
Shotgun = finishing enemies off in close range
Plasma = area denial, groups of enemies,plasma climb
Grenade Launcher = area denial and best choice if they're in your face and you know for certain you can hit them
Starter MG = best gun against low hp enemies from medium to long range
Gauntlet = enemy blindly rushes you around the corner
HMG = hitting erratically moving enemies from outside LG range
>>337247158
This is the real issue. Epic needs to get it on early access if they want a player count.
Same with Paragon and their other game.
>>337247158
Maybe Steam should be less greedy and take a smaller cut
I'm so sick of publishers pushing their own bloatware but it's Steam's fault to begin with
Not even autistic, I'm actually confused.
I thought Unreal Tournament is in alpha? Why would it have lots of players then? I don't understand.
>>337267298
>take a smaller cut
>of a free and open source game
>>337246746
Because despite what fanboys insist, not everyone wants their shooters to be about rocket-jumping through the air like a ballerina on cocaine.
>>337266384
The chance to actually fight back and do something about your possible-impending death is very low, though. It's often about who sees who first.
>>337266272
Everyone is slow in fuck in "realistic" FPS games, though. In Unreal Tournament you run around like a mad man double-jumping and flipping off the walls. You can actually avoid shots.
You usually have to aim or accurately predict your opponent's movements in an insta-gib match. In realistic shooters you can just spray and you win because 2 of your bullets hit.
>>337267351
It's still in pre-alpha. Development seems pretty far though, it's not so much a prototype as it is a pretty fleshed-out game.
>>337267607
>fleshed-out
it's missing a ton of content. personally i'm waiting for vehicle maps before i really jump into the game
>>337267490
I mean generally. The reason that we put up with EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard, Epic, and other publishers all having their own steam-like platforms is that they don't want Steam raking the pot.
>>337266890
I'd wager they shouldn't join Steam yet.
As it currently is, the majority of people playing are UT enthusiasts who are very knowledgeable about UT gameplay, mechanics, maps, etc. These are the right type of players that should be providing feedback towards the alpha, and not cod players who will get absolutely devastated and cry the game is unfair and unbalanced, demanding a complete rework.
>>337267490
Modders can charge money for things they create, and a percentage of the money goes to Epic to pay for the game. Modders don't have to charge, though.
I miss the days when you could buy a game for decent sum and get everything. I don't like having to grind exp to unlock character and customization, either.
I'm cautious and reluctant to contribute money to a "f2p" scheme game because most modern games of that sort die due to lack of funding regardless of how much I paid. See Nosgoth, Age of Empires Online, Warhammer: Age of Reckoning, and probably Loadout soon. Eventually f2p schemes will die out in general as more and more people become reluctant to put down money for fear of their contributions being for nothing.
They should put it on Steam so more people can see that this game exists.
>>337250674
>game is literally (non-figuratively) called unreal
>omg why isn't it realistic??
>>337267832
>le cowadoody strawman
It's possible to like both.
My only complain is player models. I want them to be like in UT2004.
>>337248840
Except Tor is printing EA money. It's already made back it's dev costs. Sure it sank, and then it came out of the abyss even stronger.
>>337268996
What do you mean by that? UT4 is pretty close already, way closer than UT3's hulking space marines.
>>337268376
Fucking idiot. The image isn't about realism, it's about how fucking stupid and ugly the weapons look. They look like shit with unnecessary shit poking out all over the place.
It's in development with zero advertising.. They literally do not want a lot of people playing it right now.
>>337267826
>The reason that we put up with EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard, Epic, and other publishers all having their own steam-like platforms is that they don't want Steam raking the pot.
All Ubisoft games are on Steam. EA had all their games on Steam until a few years ago (Crysis 2 was probably the last game they released on Steam).
>>337269339
They feel to small to me. Maybe my memory is shit and they were the same size. I dunno. Still hyped as fuck because i played UT2004 on a pro level.
>>337246746
what game is this? i promise i'll play it
>>337269664
UT2004 has a really wonky scale in terms of players vs maps. Could that be messing with your mind a bit?
This thread made me reinstall UT4. Anyways,
>open launcher
>see this
What the hell happened with this game? Weren't they hyping it up some YEARS ago? Talk about development hell
>>337269575
Newer Ubisoft games open the Uplay launcher, and require a Uplay account.
>>337269771
Probably. How is UT4 compared to UT2004 skill wise? Is the skill ceiling higher or lower?
>>337246746
It's only in early stages of development?
They only started thinking about an audio team late last year, and it's only recently that most of the weapon designs have been finalized.
The game itself was pretty wobbly on a lot of systems with window minimization on starting or exiting a map until this winter while they were still tinkering with low level features and progress monitoring.
>>337269772
They want to focus on their FPS MOBA instead
>>337246746
Because they haven't marketed the game yet, barely anyone knows they're making it.
I honestly think this is a good thing, there's no reason for them to try to get a ton of players on an unfinished pre-alpha and have the hype die down once the game is released because everyone forgot about it rather than actually trying to get players when the game is more finished and people will actually stick to it.
Hell, I had several friends who always wanted a new UT but they didn't know they were making a new one.
>>337269126
>It's already made back it's dev costs
WOW! And it only took 5 years!
Fuck off.
>>337271014
You sound upset that this game is making money.
Aww
>>337271014
>>337269126
Do you mean the base cost of the game at release? because it cost EA over100 million didn't it? Not sure but it was ludicrously high.
