I want to get into Serious Sam but i don't know where to start.
What are the games worth playing and ones i should avoid.
Also are the original 2 games on steam behind a bundle pay wall?
>>337225153
Play the 2nd one
Story doesn't matter
They're all pretty fun desu but 2nd was my favorite and it's super cheap for what you get
>>337225153
>i don't know where to start.
At the beginning, you buffoon! First Encounter followed by Second Encounter.
>ones i should avoid.
None. 3:BFE is the weakest by far but it's still a decent game. Anyone who tells you to avoid 2 is a no fun wanker.
If you are a total casul, start with BFE. Or start with First encounter then second encounter. Dont play the second first. Its not a bad game, but is way too diferent.
>>337225153
You start at the fucking beginning.
First Encounter HD
then Second Enounter HD
Then Serious Sam 3
Serious Sam 2 never happened and original devs pretend this as well.
>>337225635
>>337225901
What's so bad orseriousabout SS2?
>>337225901
Didnt HD versions fuck a level or two? Something about gravity being altered.
Anyway, SS: Revolution is the cheapest way to get First and Second encounter
Play The First Encounter and The Second Encounter classic. TFE HD if you absolutely must but you miss out on the best level in the franchise if you play TSE HD since Croteam are hacks and couldn't be bothered building their fantastic physics engine again for the HD release.
Play TFE > TSE > 2 > 3. 2 is a bit cartoony and a pretty clear Halo clone with the akimbo guns, tacked-on vehicles, characters who talk at you and get in the way of your killing shit but it's still fun. 3 is Call of Duty without health regen for the first couple of levels but once it gets rolling and opens up it's a ton of fun and the DLC for it is the best game in the series.
You shouldseriouslystart at the first game
>>337226626
They didn't fuck anything, they just replaced the gravity room puzzle secret in a certain level with a different room since their HD engine doesn't support gravity fuckery. It's still an objective improvement over the originals.
>>337226587
It was designed as XboxHuge exclusive later ported to PC.
Meaning much smaller levels, less enemies on screen, fuckton of loading screens and vastly simplified cartoony visuals with bobblehead aesthetic.
>>337226839
>but you miss out on the best level in the franchise if you play TSE HD
What do you mean?
>>337227239
He's shitposting, you don't miss on a level but a gravity room puzzle in a certain level, they replaced it with a different one anyway. You have to be beyond fucking retarded to go with originals just for 1 gravity puzzle shooting room that lasts maybe 5 minutes total.
>>337225153
>FE
meh
>SE
a better version of FE
Original if you like goofy early 00s low poly graphics, HD otherwise
>SS2
complete garbage
>BFE
pretty alright overall
>>337226839
SS3 starts as an intentional parody of CoD for first 3-4 levels and ramps up into classic Serious Sam feel very, VERY quickly after you kill the ayylmao helicopter boss.
>>337227202
>objective improvement
Graphically sure but gameplay/mechanics-wise (i.e. the important metrics) it's a clear step down.
>>337227239
https://youtu.be/j3IYM6-jedc?t=3m4s
This room mainly (which is wild fun) and more later on
>>337227294
>He's shitposting
>they just replaced the gravity room puzzle secret in a certain level
Don't be a faggot
>>337227438
>SS3 starts as an intentional parody of CoD for first 3-4 levels
Totally but 3-4 levels is far too long. A joke shouldn't last more than a level, tops.
How do you guys feel about the spin off's like Serious Sam: Double D and Serious Sam: The Random Encounter?
>>337227507
>Graphically sure but gameplay/mechanics-wise (i.e. the important metrics) it's a clear step down.
It's the same fucking game with one different puzzle room, there's a different movement puzzle in place there in HD version you know faggot. But you don't know that since you're a parroting nigger that never played it.
>Totally but 3-4 levels is far too long. A joke shouldn't last more than a level, tops.
I agree it felt a bit dragged out but rest of the game delivers so fucking well that it honestly didn't bother me.
>>337225153
Shallow gameplay that fails to update itself or expand in a meaningful way. The games become exhausting due to them being 1 trick ponies.
A few small changes to make the good but we just can't have that.
>>337227529
Like Serious Sam Advance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcgxFF1pC_MNever played them but the one with the gun stacking looks like fun
>Mfw BFE levels 1 to 4
BFE is the easy one because it doesn't spam kleers every half second and there aren't a lot of traps like the old ones, but you should really have patience with the boring as fuck level 2 and 4.
>>337225153
Painkiller Black is a pretty good jumping off point.
>>337227529
Garbagie indie games. Literal garbage.
The shitty RPG Maker one is the worst (Random Encounter).
Double D has a seemingly interesting gimmick in form of gun stacking but once you play it you realize what an unfun floaty piece of shit it is and how much of a clusterfuck the stacking aspect is.
>>337227676
>a different movement puzzle in place
A fucking boring one, sure. Graphics look fine either way so I don't see why anyone should play the mechanically inferior re-release over the original games that the rest of the game's fanbase grew up with.
>>337227821
>mechanically inferior
>because it doesn't have a shitty puzzle room that doesn't even last longer than 5 minutes
Anon, your rose tinted niggertalgia is talking. Kill yourself this instant and stop recommending people inferior experience just because your subjective rose tinted glasses can't handle lack of one shitty puzzle room.
>>337227927
>inferior experience
>because of grafix
>>337227690
As much as I love the game, this. It's one of those games that get a lot of praise on /v/ for being "based" and sort of old school shooter-like. It should be fun on paper but it's honestly much worse than any of the modern military/futuristic shooters
>>337227927
Anon please, if you value graphics over gameplay that's fine but leave that shit at the door, don't go pushing it on everyone else.
>multiplayer coop
>be that guy who pop every bonfires/torches/decorations on every level
>>337227529
Random Encounter has alright spritework and music, but is too random to be much fun.
>>337228025
The gameplay is the same though.
>>337228134
Post trackfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpRicVMbXkY
>>337227776
This desu. I played Painkiller before Serious Sam and honestly SS is painful to play after the relative smoothness and variety of Painkiller.
Reminds me of how playing FEAR ruined Doom 3 for me when I later played it.
>>337227690
>that fails to update itself or expand in a meaningful way
Every time you pick up a new gun the gameplay changes. You get more options to deal with enemies and the way you approach each encounter changes as a result. By the end of the games you've got a dozen unique guns and they all have their uses depending on the situation (aside from the Tommygun and single pistol which are made obsolete and the lasergun which is just a different minigun)
By the time you get to the huge-scale battles at the end of the game you've got opportunities to use every gun you've got to take down different enemies. Groups of Kleers at a distance? Rocket them. Too close? Knock them down with a cannonball. Switch to your minigun to tear up some harpies. Back to the rocket launcher to send some firepower at those mechs in the distance. Pistols to kill that Kamikaze running at you. Chainsaw for the Werebull about to knock you down. You're constantly mobile which gives you a lot of time to roam the battlefield mid-combat and see what ammo's available so you know what weapons you can prioritize. The game has a ton of depth beyond the shallow-seeming surface.
>>337228217
Except when it's worse, like the newton's nightmare level
>>337228310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQMCAdMadMY
>stepping out into the final courtyard
>this starts playing
>clouds gather overhead and start raining fireballs all around you
Honestly the hypest moment of my childhood
>>337227996
>>337228025
The gameplay is the same outside of 1 shitty puzzle room you cancerous nostalgianiggers, also graphics are important part of games, if faggots like you had their way we'd still be playing fucking PONG.
>>337225153
I've started with the 3, the final is one of the best things that I've see in videogames.
Totally Epic.
>>337228568
Epic.
>tfw this track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKqpCSAILbs
>YFW THIS TRACK STARTS PLAYING IN SS3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQKbdNxXnR0
>>337228631
Play First and Second Encounter HD now faggot and appreciate even better games.
protip: second encounter has both the first and 2nd game
source: my own mistakes
also get BFE and the cartoony one, its still a decent game
>>337229069
No anon it doesn't.
Second Encounter HD has a free DLC called "Fusion" which lets you play First Encounter HD levels inside SE but ONLY if you already own FE HD.
Next time do your research you retard, so no you didn't make a mistake in getting both since you need both to play FE HD in SE HD.
>>337229195
>HD
>>337228957
>>337229274
>>337229324
>le ebin plebbit reaction image shitpost reply
You can't play original FE in original SE at all, don't be retarded and kill yourselves.
BFE > TSE > TFE > 2
>best weapon is barely used
>>337230192
aw no fair i never found that secret
>>337230192
>that Kleer at the end
Is that scripted?
>>337229393
I don't get why people say Second Encounter is better than First Encounter, the new weapons and enemies really don't do all that much to improve the experience.
>>337230320
Egypt was great but I loved the different settings in TSE
gog has both for 8.06 US Dollars don't know if they are the hd version but ye
gog.com/game/serious_sam_the_second_encounter
the bundle says BUY SERIES
>>337230492
Those are the originals
>>337228310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQMCAdMadMY
>>337230298
Of course.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaXYqPHRLiI
>Classic
>fun and vibrant
>HD
>dull and drab
the second encounter is by far the best. to be honest if you play them all in a row you'll get burnt out. just play TSE
>>337228009
This is exactly it. People are blind to their own favoritism and cannot objectively identify flaws even in things they like. Serious Sam needs some serious gameplay updates, pun not intended. Better movement would be one, more strategy would be another. Guns that upgrade as you use them would be nice too. More power ups that are not generic and bland. Actual level design and maybe even get the platforming to work in a fun way.
See this guy for an example of grasping. Everyone know what he just posted, he just fails to see the evolution and refinement that is sorely needed.
>>337228546
>>337230635
i refer you to this
>>337230934
i kind-of agree
>>337228009
>but it's honestly much worse than any of the modern military/futuristic shooters
Pic related it's you.
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>>337232913
>>337225153
Read this op, should answer all your questions
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/AAAAAAAAA!
>>337225597
No fun wanker here.
SS13 IS A ROLEPLAYING GAME, YOU CAN'T PLAY IT AS AN OBJECTIVE BASED TEAM VS TEAM GAME
>>337233595
FUCKING METAGAMERS AND POWERGAMERS USING IN-GAME MECHANICS SUCH AS COUNTING THE # OF PLAYERS IN THE LOBBY VS. THE # IN THE PDA TO DETERMINE ROUND TYPE, HOW DARE THEY GAIN INFORMATION TO TRY AND WIN THEIR OBJECTIVES??!!! REEE!
sincerely, No fun wanker.
>>337231024
Playing TSE burns me out because how much bullshit is in it, from the gimmick trap rooms to the bosses to the final 360 fight, just for something seemingly random to kill you so the game can go "lol lrn2 savescum"
>>337225153
You can start anywhere, story is pretty much irrelevant.
Though I suggest you start with the first one. Also, if you have TFE and TSE HD on Steam, you can play the first game through the second game, it's pretty neat.
>>337231357
> evolution and refinement
> level guns up
People like you need to stay far away from any kind of position that may influence the development of these games.
>>337231357
There is not many info on SS4 but hopefully they will make some changes that still keep the game fun.
Problem is that when they tried to mix up some mechanics in SS2 it didn't work. SS3 was fun imo, and you had to prioritize between enemies really hard otherwise you were fucked. See the floating lady monsters who could immobilize you.
>Actual level design and maybe even get the platforming to work in a fun way.
I agree on level design.
I'm not a fan of platforming, but hopefully they won't do it in a way how they did it in SE with some stupid jumping rooms.
Reminder to join
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/serioussaturdayswithvWe're doing a modded event this week
>>337231357
>Guns that upgrade as you use them would be nice too.
>>337234615 Here
No, just no.
I know people hate SS2, but it had some cool music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpTzHrbAtwg&ab_channel=DamnitChloe!
Press MB1. Now press S, occasionally A or D. Congrats, you are now able to play Serious Sam, and you have reached the average level of intellect of its fanbase.
>>337234580
Excatly, you don't need massive changes to think a game is improved. Hell just giving weapons switchable firing modes can change the gameplay enough.
Some people need to understand that not every change is a good thing. It needs to fit with the game first before continuing on.
What would you like to see in Serious Sam 4?
For me it's:
>Alternate fire modes
Could add a lot of variety to the combat
>More worthwile secrets and pickups
Less cases of "pick up +1 hp, get attacked by 10 kleer" would be nice
>an automap or any map really
Would be nice
>more jetpack sections
They were pretty fun in BFE
>more Undercode music
It's a shame they only use it for boss battles, Undercode is great
>Bring back the weapons from TSE
Especially the chainsaw
>Keep the Mutilator
It was fun
>Places other than Egypt.
I have nothing against Egypt, in fact I love egyptian levels, but I'd like to see Sam go to other places.
>>337234754
>>337234754
>Press MB1. Now press S, occasionally A or D.
I don't see the problem here, It's like you hate having fun. Even if you play a complex game in which you have difficult character builds, the end result is the same. It kills stuff.
> caring this much about any kind of fanbase.
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>>337230934
Mess with the color options then.
If you're running windowed, go full screen, change the color options, then go windowed.
>>337235234
They already said 4 won't be taking place in Egypt. You're a spoiled brat if you want the pickup enemy spawns removed, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
>>337235254
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>>337235254
ZEBPOSTING
>>337235234
>Places other than Egypt.
April fool's blog post hinted at Rome. Or maybe was a joke reference to The next encounter, who knows.
>>337236265
Never heard of anything related to this. Should I even give a shit about the overall situation?
>>337236542
Most likely not. just beware of italians, they're the russians of SSHD multiplayer.
>>337236542
search " Zeb89" on youtube
it's a spaghetti_mandolino meme
>>337236480
>painting the Sistine Chapel with Alien Blood
Pro gamer.
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>>337236950
Love me some assets recycling from TTP.
It really makes sense though since The talos principle came from SS4 early stages when they were testing new puzzles.
>space coons again
>>337237945
I don't mind, Talos looked amazing at times.
The Sam voice DLC was 10/10
>space coons again
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST NO
>>337238056
They weren't that bad when faced in open environment.
