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I want Overwatch back. I want Mercy back
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I want Overwatch back.

I want Mercy back
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EVERYGAME IS FUCKING BORING NOW

OW DID THIS. FUCK
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Just release it already, i can't take this, the game is so good!
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>>337224775
you really sound like a shill
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tfw no more mercy flying around with you while you rain rockets on people
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>>337224674
>two weeks
>14 days
>336 hours untill release

its been one day since beta shutdown and im already having withdrawal. the last time a game made me feel like this was halo 3. I WANT IT NOWWWWWWWWW
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>>337225406
This happened to me too but thankfully it's started to pass.

It's the first game I've enjoyed this much since TF2 back in 2009. And the extreme fast pace has made every other game feel slow.

I was already bored before the beta but now it's worse
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>>337225915
I got into the closed beta but didnt have enough time to really play it. i think i played maybe 4 or 5 games and only used junkrat, but the new hearthstone expac also occupied most of my hype so that might also be why.

With the open beta i had lot of time to play this time and by the end probablly put in 17 hours. literally every online firend and most of my irl firends were playing too. so much fucking fun

and yes i like blizzard games before the lel shills come in
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Did anyone try to play tf2 after many years to try and fill the void but was just dissapointed? I know its a "better" game and all that but it is just not nearly as fun
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>>337225406
>halo 3
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>>337226294
dumb frog poster
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I've never bought a game at Full Price before but I really need Pharah and Mercy in my life
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>>337224575
uncharted 4 better fuel me til release. I dont feel like spending more money on another game
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>>337226413
but that's clearly a bee.
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>>337224575

I want Pharah back
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The only good thing about this game is Roadhog and I *know* neo-blizz is going to nerf him even though's marginal in pro play
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>>337224575

>Wanting expired Christmas cakes
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>>337224575
I don't play shit games. Fun is not a legitimate reason to enjoy something you braindead autist.
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Hahaha yes /V/, I can't wait for Overwatchâ„¢, is anyone else getting the premium $60 pack ^^
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>>337226827
Pharah would be my waifu if not for Mercy.
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I'm gonna throw away my family's genetic legacy and breed with Pharah!
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>>337226827
>Tfw no Egyptian gf with golden jewellery and eye makeup
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>>337226902
Why would they nerf Pudge?
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>>337226981
>fun is not a legitimate reason to enjoy something
>calls other people autistic
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>>337226981
You dont play games for fun?
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>>337227089
>not wanting to breed with an Egyptian and have children who are descended from one of the first civilizations in the history of the world
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>>337226981
nice
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>>337227168
>>337227193
>actually falling for a classic post

neo-/v/ is real
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the only good part of this game is waifus

granted, that's a pretty damn good part, but jesus fuck the game itself is boring
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>>337227217
>first =/= best
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>>337225406
i literally downloaded it on the last day and played until 3am (thinking the servers might be in cali or some shit, so i figured the servers would be down by 12 EST)

really wishing i never got a taste of it
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>>337227217
>Egyptian
That's an Arab.
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>>337226996
the reason why theres so many threads on v right now is because the game is actually incredibly fun and really good. and pretty much anyone was able to play it for free. remember the mgs5 threads? same shit.
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>>337226827
I like that WebM. We need more Pharah porn.
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>>337227372
Are you retarded or just joking?
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>>337227378
and almost none of them talk about the actual game, just waifushittery

not exactly promising, but then the game is simple as fuck
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>>337224575
>tfw no friends
>tfw no mercy to follow you around while you play zarya or pharah
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>>337227372
What? No it isn't. True Egyptians were the indigenous people of Egypt. Then the subhuman sandniggers came from Arabia with their cultist religion and ruined Egypt for good.
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>>337227472
Why do you think it's a joke?

>>337227546
So Pharaoh in the game is a time traveler?
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>>337227242
ive been on v for 2 years now, thats barely considered "new"
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>>337227295
it gets better, trust me. its a game that really grows on you.
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>>337227546
He's one of those retards who thinks that the Arabs were somehow able to replace the local population instead of just assimilate them to their goat-fucking culture.
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>>337227517
i'll be your pocket Mercy <3
but only if ur qt
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>>337227594
I played it for all of the free weekend and there's zero depth to the game

Now, maybe I'm completely missing something here, but the base game has so little actual options of improving personal skill that I'm not going to bother
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>>337227612
Are you saying the people in Egypt today, 'Egyptians', aren't Arabs?
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>>337227587
>v

and yes it is, sorry newfag
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I DO enjoy overwatch but I feel like I'm talking to shills. I'll buy your damn game just fuck off
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>>337227157
>Why would they nerf Pudge?

Because pubs can't handle the Roadhugs

>walk past the pocket, break Mercy in half, waddle around the corner for a quick sippy of guzzoline

I mean, I hope I'm wrong, it's just the counters to him require teamwork. In fact I'd argue he only really works well when people are being stupid and floating around outside the ball, then they get picked off and killed; otherwise if there's a support and/or Reinhardt available, Hog just gets chased off
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>2 weeks
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>>337227578
No, she's just Egyptian in the true sense of the word. It's a game, you doofus.

>>337227612
To be honest I'm pretty sure it's hard to find pure Egyptians nowadays. Most have probably mixed with sandniggers. I think Coptic Egyptians are as close as you can get.
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>>337227492
most threads on v dont talk about actual gameplay, with the exception of a mild few. but generally you can tell how popular a game is or how many people on v who like by the amount of threads, even if its all shitposting and waifu shit.
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>>337227546
Egypt like we knew it already stopped existing far long before the arabs came along. Rome conquered Egypt far long before the arabs.
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>>337227749
Arab is a cultural term
Arabian is someone from the Arabian Peninsula
Syrians are Arabs but they are genetically Levantine
Arabic Egyptians (as opposed to Coptic Egyptians) are Arabs but genetically Egyptian
Coptic Egyptians are not Arabs and are genetically Egyptian
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>>337227836
nope, sorry

we had endless threads of goatmom from undertale just coming from the demo because she made for good porn

it has nothing to do with the game, but it keeps marketers happy because it stays in people's minds
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>>337227816
Well, you'd also be hard-pressed to find pure Slavs and pure Germanics (excluding North Germanics) as well
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>>337227759
you can really tell when someone is actually new when they call people "newfags". you're trying to hard to fit in with the ebin /v/ culture and it shows
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I already got bored of the game towards the end of the beta. It's fun at first but it's incredibly samey and doesn't have enough depth to stay entertaining.
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>>337227986
quickly changed it to /v/, huh

and nah bro, calling people newfags is as old as the start of this damn website, back when everyone was a newfag
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>>337227856
I think the majority of Egypt's population was still ethnically Egyptian even when a bunch of Romans lived there. What really ruined Egypt is the goat fuckers who swept throughout the Middle East to spread their Satanic doctrine.
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>>337227913
meanwhile theres a thread right now about mai's gameplay mechanics and tons of others with tons of posts about the actual game. just because you dont like the game or accidentally bought battleborn doesnt mean its shit.
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>>337228003
This, pretty much. It's really made to be babby's first FPS, akin to Hearthstone being babby's first TCG. It even has ultimates that persist building through death to make even the biggest retard feel good about themselves.

It was fun to the weekend, but the ceiling is so goddamn low.
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>>337227976
I don't give a fuck about them tbqh. Unlike both of those groups ancient Egyptians were actually cool.
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>>337228117
>tons of others

there's this thread and there's the mei thread, and then there's a thread about waifus, a thread about japanese pictures of waifus, a thread about buying skins (lol)

that's it
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>daily OW thread spam
definitely time to quit /v/ for good this time
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>>337224853
Absolutely best feel
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>>337228048
>and nah bro, calling people newfags is as old as the start of this damn website

Nope. It started around the time of the habbo raids when they drew in a bunch of retards desperate to try and fit in. Saying "newfag" was an instant sign of someone fresh in from gaia/ytmnd/gamefaqs etc.
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>>337228048
I changed it just like i purposely misspell words after some autist points out my spelling errors in a previous post i made, and yall never catch on.

and again stop trying so hard to fit in, makes you look like you're straight off the boat from r/4chan
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>>337228245
>all of these threads dont mean the game is popular
>stop liking overwatch its shit and i hate it
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>>337228364
>falls for an ancient bait post
>"b-but 2 years isn't new"
>you're just doing it to fit in

nah, fuck off, don't be so insecure about being called out on your shit
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>>337228063
It really wasn't. Egypt went through so many conquests that their ethnicity is filled with european/persian/negro/semite genes.
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>>337224853
>tfw no more being mercy flying around between people who need help
;_;
two weeks is too long.
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>>337228502
read the original post instead of butting in midway through a conversation like a retard
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>>337228245
>Thread about buying skins
Literal idiot.
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14 days is way too long

you'll even be clear of crack addiction in 2 weeks
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>>337228575
>actually getting enjoyment out of playing Mercy
This is a character literally designed for girls who don't play video games and just want to play with their boyfriends.
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Finally decided to install the beta the other day

>ended 6 hours ago
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Thanks for the Wallpaper OP, I've been looking for a new one.
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>2 WEEKS
>TWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKS
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>>337227242
>>337227759
>using terms like "new fag" and "neo-v"
>being proud of it
Kys
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>>337228715
you might actually be right.
her pistol is fucking nice though. nobody expects the pistol to the face. killed multiple idiots simply because they forget mercy actually can deal damage of her own.

but you know why i really play mercy?
she's fun
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>>337228715
>"i-if i cant get kill streaks the hero sucks"

there is nothing more satisfying getting a 3+ ress near the end of the game and sealing a victory
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>>337228715

As a man I'd still like to choose the class that gives us the highest chance of success.
Plus I also want to play with a boyfriend.
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>>337228505
yet you fell for the
>"b-but 2 years isn't new"

the irony is delicious
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>>337228554
Egyptians were already Semitics. And even after the Nubians conquered Egypt, they still mostly stayed in Nubia.
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>>337228859
>tfw I only played for maybe two hours yesterday

Never read the e-mail and I kept ignoring the threads on /v/ thinking everyone was in the closed beta. I could have played for fucking days.
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>>337228983
What even is fun about her? She requires the least skill out of any hero.
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>>337227759
reminder that Newfag is a newfriend buzzword used for e-peen
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>>337229065
>highest chance of success
Then you'd be playing Lucio you dumbass
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>tfw you wanted to like D.va but ended up loving Reaper

How can I protect his smile?
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>>337229018
>there is nothing more satisfying than pressing Q
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>>337229113
M8, Persians conquered Egypt twice, Romans conquered Egypt, Macedonians conquered Egypt, Arabs conquered Egypt.
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>>337228715
Mercy is fun as hell. I actually enjoy keeping my team from exploding and forcing aggressive trades through healing and damage amps. I enjoy flying all over the place and the occasionally taking shots at people when the situation calls for it, shutting down people's plays. Being a healer gives me a degree of control over others, and the bonus on top of all of this is that Mercy is absolutely gorgeous.
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>>337228575
>no more watching your teammates run into bullets right after you res them.

There's a point where I just decided to let the shitters die so I can heal the important people.
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>>337228505
holy fuck your retarded

>falls for bait
>uses newfag unironically like the redditor he is
>actually stupid
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>>337229137
Not that guy, but for me it's her movement options perfectly complementing the need to look at your other teammates while still gauging the guy you're currently healing/buffing. You're constantly zipping between players, and if you're good and your team is good, you can effectively never need to use her Ultimate until maybe the final push, when it's usually a worthy self-sacrifice to win the game.

So basically, flying is fun and she does it faster than anyone else. Basically like playing Spider-Man 2 as a healer.
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>>337229153

Yeah but I don't want to LOOK like a huge faggot while healing team, I just want to be one.
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>>337229276
Waifufag in denial, got it.
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>>337229359
Go double Zenyatta and rape the Enemy team
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>>337229137
>avoid line of fire
>realize when the enemy team is making a huge ulti push that will likely kill 2-3 people on your team
>stay back and save ress for when you absolutely need it and not as soon as 1x pops up on your screen
>mastering her gun there is noone close to heal/dmg aid

i bet you are one of those lvl50 players who only picked genji and thus have mastered genji and then thinks he's better than everyone else
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>>337229356
>Basically like playing Spider-Man 2 as a healer.

>Can only swing when there's a building within view

>Mercy can only fly when there's a teammate within view

It all makes sense. I was wondering why she felt so good to play.
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>>337229421

I lost interest within 3-4 hours of playing so I'll just jack off to the porn while it hopefully dies.
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>>337229450
No, I like playing supports, I just don't like playing Mercy. Healing beams are the most boring shit.
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>>337229137
i enjoy when it's the situation of half my team being damaged and picking who needs how much healing before healing the next person and if they're good enough to warrant healing to full before healing the next person. zooming between the people as they're situated around random places on the map is fun and good for escaping asshole reapers or roadhog hooks if they don't do the kill combo properly.
the res is fantastic, but it's not particularly fun to use.

i get the most enjoyment out of whipping out the pistol and nailing idiots in the face with it. guessing where they will move is challenging and rewarding, and though it makes very little difference if you scrape up a few kills as mercy, you support your team well, and can damage boost anyone who isn't fucking garbage, and you can tell the difference in their kill times.
the faster their enemies die, the less people there are shooting them, the less damage they take, the less chance they (and i) have of dying.
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Post 'em if you got 'em
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Who origins edition here

The skins are neat (76 and Tracer's best skins IMO) and the extra stuff for the other games is nice
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>>337229643
>bragging about being such a huge blizzdrone that you gave them a tip
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>>337224575
I don't even like it that much but it's literally addicting.

I'm having fucking withdrawals over here
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>>337229643
>tfw got it for $48 with Amazon Prime
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>>337225406
>Took break from Dark souls 3 for OW beta
>realize the only fucking thing I have left is the Nameless king and LOC
FUCK.
oh well least it's only two weeks, could be worse.
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>>337229643
I bought it but the skins other than the ones you mentioned are pretty garbage.
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>>337229305
eh, i don't mind. they do glow a bright fucking yellow that means "please shoot me" when you res them, and if you need to res people, half the time it's because half the other players on your team are shit and you've lost anyways.
in that case i just repick to reaper

FROM THE SHADOWS
DEATH COMES
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>consider getting Origins Edition just for the Pharah costome
>realize I'd basically be paying $20 for a single skin and that it'd be a really bad decision
Phew
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>>337229845

If all you play is Pharah its worth it
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>>337229276

I dont get that taunt. What does she mean by this?
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>>337229845
The unlockable Pharah skins and even defeault look way better than the origin one.
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>>337225406
>>337225915
Overwatch is the most blatantly designed-to-be-addictive game I've ever seen, and I really must commend Blizzard on successfully applying the lessons they learned on how to make games addictive to the shooter genre.

And like any good dealer, they have everyone their first hit for free.

The one thing I'd have done differently if I were them is I'd have pushed the beta closer to release or moved release up closer to the beta period. You don't give someone a free crack rock, then prevent them from getting any more for two weeks, giving them time to get past withdrawal
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>>337224575
Since damage boosting stacks, why not have 5 Mercy's and 1 Roadhogg? The Mercy's could just nicht sterben each other
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>>337229881

Insinuating you're braindead because you have no pulse

Come on man
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>>337229752
Are you me?
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>>337229910
What about it do you think makes it designed to be addictive? I'm not disagreeing, just curious.
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>>337229910
They made it addictive by making it good. No unlock grinds or any of that faggotry that plagues modern games.
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>>337228048
"newfag" wasn't a term for years after the site started, there was an influx of users after the habbo raid coverage and a ton of memes around new users (cockmongler is really grinman!)
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>>337229910
It's confirmed that we're getting two new animated shorts between now and release.
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I played TF2 after the beta

I KNOW TF2 IS A BETTER GAME BUT WHY DOES IT FEEL SO FUCKING EMPTY NOW
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>>337229401
Nope, healing is enjoyable. I liked Miko in Battleborn and Dazzle in DotA as well. And yes, I knew you're eager to plug your ears with shit and tune out dissenting opinions fuck it. I also cannot fucking stand the healslut bullshittery, and even worse is the hugbox bullshit of THANK YOUR SUPPORTS :DDD. Fuck you, I'm not thanking a fucking thing, do your job. The VICTORY flashing across your screen should be reward enough.

>>337229934
Because different heroes are needed to answer different situations. The game is balanced around being able to change characters as needed so it's stupid as fuck that so many people refuse to actually change characters when the need arises. I fucking hate playing Lucio but there are times where he is a better pick. I prefer Bastion over Junkrat or Mei but there are situations where they are more productive than Bastion is, and the list goes on.
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>>337230014
>having all the heroes unlocked from the start means the game is good
>even if there's still microtransactions and grinds, just for cosmetics
Is this the current state of video games?
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>>337230064
No waifus to melt your cold heart
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>>337230109
Yes, and it has been for at least the last decade. Try to keep up.
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>>337230137
No it's not that. I still cannot put a finger on it.

Also I love how Torbjorn is the perfect height to run into any of the girls' asses by accident
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>tfw I kept calling some loud normie-dudebro Mercy my healslut and he got so embarrased and confused he stopped playing Mercy and talking on the mic altogether
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>>337230109
Having to unlock characters in PvP games is cancer and I am glad that most fighters have done away with that bullshit.
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>>337230224
Lack of movement options and "press Q for dopamine hit" abilities.
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i watched like 5 reviews, yet i have no idea what this game is about. CTF? Team Deathmatch?
Even if it's fun, I can't imagine playing it any longer than 100hrs.
What's the reason you want it back? you gotta have some reasons... not just because its good.
no, you are a moron if you dont like it is no reason
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>>337230292
I absolutely agree, but just because the game doesn't fuck you in the ass doesn't mean it's good.
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>>337230285
Domming your team mates is a good strat.
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>Started playing Roadhog 2h before the Beta ends
>He's really fucking fun to play as
>my face I can't play him again until the 24th
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>>337230109
yea and its fucking awesome

rewards should be cosmetic especially in competative games because then you rely on personalskill rather than just overpowering your opponent
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>>337224575
Was it cancelled or something?
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>>337229643
Out of all the skins that come with Origins, I would only use 1 or 2 at the most. I'd rather take the extra 20 and either buy gold or take a chance with loot boxes, whichever Blizzard decides to sell.
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>>337229985
>>337230014
The most blatant thing is the level and randomized loot system. Level effects pretty much nothing and a money-for-points system would be better-received and let people get just the unlocks they want faster, but the current system gives the illusion of progression and engenders a compulsive desire to gain more loot boxes.

beyond that there's a ton of features designed to maximize the effects of the game on your rewards system and minimize anything at all that might interfere with it

-Eliminations are kills+assists
-Eliminations are immediately noticeable on tab stats screen, deaths are hidden in the middle bottom
-You cannot see teammate stats, so you cannot get called out by teammates
-Huge "YOU ELIMINATED X" after every kill with accompanying recognizable sound just to make sure your brain knows to release serotonin
-Easy kills for every character, large hitboxes, low updaterate to client w/client-side hit detection
-extremely fast pace, no downtime between games
-POTG and Commends, which are fucking brilliant as they give nothing but everyone wants them

And that's just the more abstract and obvious things, basically everything about the game from the aesthetic to the sound design to the damned maps is designed to keep you hooked.

Blizzard is very open about hiring psychologists and giving them lots of data and heavy access to development.
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>>337227647
I'm a permavirgin neckbeard autist. Can you still be my pocket pussy?
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>>337230369
Look at
>>337224674
>>337229706
>>337229910
>>337226293
The game is designed to be addictive. Plays of the game, ultimate abilities, level up rewards, lootboxes, it's all blatant Skinner box stuff. It's trying so hard to make the player feel good without them having to actually try for it.
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>>337230369
Because I only started having fun when I mained Reindhart in the last three hours
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>>337230582
You didn't mention the waifus
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>>337230408
>2016
>playing video games to win instead of playing video games to ERP
seriously hope you guys don't do this
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>>337230539
Don't forget the Ultimate abilities that keep charging even if you continuously die, so even the biggest shitter can sometimes press Q, get a double kill and feel good about themselves.
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>>337228715
Me and my boyfriend played the beta with them as Pharah and me as Mercy. I was never on the ground and we dominated matches constantly. Even avoiding widows is easy with erratic movement.
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>>337224575
Guys
I can't play anything anymore. I played Dota for the first time in two weeks and it felt bland and boring. I didn't get the same high when we won.
I don't want to play anything else than Overwatch.
Guys help. How do I get out of this
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>>337230582
Every AAA video game is designed that way these days. Valve perfected the formula and they're just repackaging it now
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>>337230539
This all makes a lot of sense and i can feel it too, the fact that i cant see anyone else's stats is nice and inflating eliminations and getting medals helps too, and since i main mercy i get about the same amount of exp for healing as my friends get for 20+ eliminations, so as a healer i don't feel like im not progressing as fast.
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>>337230396
Oh, not at all. That said it is a nice thing. Battleborn however forces you to unlock the characters which is retarded.
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>>337230669
I don't know why I'm only realizing it now, but yes, this is one of the problems with the game
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>>337230582
>stating the obvious

we get it, the game is designed to feel FUN and thus you want to keep playing it
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>>337230285
>>337230645
Go back to FFXIV degenerate
Yes I know you are from FFXIV
I bet you're playing on Ultros or Balmung
Faggot
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>>337230539
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>>337230765
Traditionally the way you treat withdrawal without weaning is by switching to a different drug.
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>>337230806
You're not wrong, and I hate it. It's like every AAA game is destined to be like mobile games, where they constantly try to get you to feel good even if you didn't do anything, just so you can give them more money.

I wish games still made you work for those rewards.
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>>337230921
It's barely more than 200 words

you kids today just get dumber and dumber
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>>337228298
See you tomorrow
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>>337230909
lmao I don't pay subscriptions for video games fag. If I wanted to do that I'd just play Tera
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>>337230539
The thing is, you mention all of these things as ways to avoid making players feel bad and I don't disagree with that angle, but they're also things that actually improve the game experience for everyone.

If you've played any online FPS in the last 10 years you'd know how cancerous the "but muh stats" faggots are who won't play the objectives or expose themselves to any kind of danger at all.
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>>337231031
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>>337227587
Please leave this place forever
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>>337230905
>the game is designed to feel FUN
If you define fun as the release of dopamine and serotonin in your brain, then yes, it was "designed to be fun"

In reality things tend to be more nuanced than that.

Levelling up isn't "fun," it's not even really an activity. It's a passive system you have little to no control over. But it still triggers your pleasure/reward system.
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>>337231005
This isn't exactly new, it's been going on ever since achievements were introduced.
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>>337231005
The only thing that matters is winning. Victory is its own reward. I am fucking baffled that people give so much of a shit about commendations and PotGs. The enemy can have as many PotGs and upvotes as they'd like so long as I see VICTORY flash across my screen.
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>Complete Hearthstone daily
>Nothing else to play
REEEEEEEEE
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>>337231194
I know, it's just been getting so blatant lately, it feels blatantly exploitative and I don't want to put up with it.
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>>337231258
ROADHOG!
WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE?
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>>337231119
>they're also things that actually improve the game experience for everyone
Ults are a terrible idea for a comp shooter, and keeping ult through death is the WORST idea for a comp shooter.

Not showing team stats makes it harder for a team to pinpoint shortcomings

low client update rate, giant hitboxes, and easy kills are not things people tend to look for in their shooters.
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>>337230582
The problem with Skinner boxes these days is the frequency of rewards is WAY too high.
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>>337231258
>Me and all my friends start getting quieter and more frustrated as we lose several games in a row
>Finally win one and start complementing each other for doing our part and everyone starts talking more.
>We also all live in the same house so we just scream through the hallways and have breaks for food and talk in the kitchen about the game.

Our house hasn't been this happy for a while.
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>>337230745
Stop being a gay, anon
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>>337231182
>use reductionist analysis
>dismiss it at the same time

so having fun is a release of certain chemicals in your brain

and when a game does that, its bad?
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>>337229948
no.. that's not what it means. it doesn't even make sense
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>>337231407
Maybe. It seems to work for a lot of people, or they wouldn't design them this way, but personally it loses its lustre to me very quickly. Rewards are meaningless without adversity to overcome.
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>>337231194
The difference is that Blizzard are fucking MASTERS, and while most games only include these elements tangentially (unlock/level system after fights for example) Blizzard has woven it completely into the gameplay.

Even the things other people already do Blizzard does better. Levelling up in most shooters provides access to better weapons and items (which in itself is a terrible idea but that's another thread entirely), which imposes an effective cap on rewarding the player for levelling; in Overwatch it gives you a single loot crate with randomized items, which means you can level up basically forever.
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>>337231258
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>>337230539
>breaking news: /v/ user thinks devs should not attempt to keep customers interested in their game
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>>337231480
You know what games release a lot of chemicals in your brain? Mobile games. They give you big flashy rewards every day, and make you feel good about everything. Do you want your shooters to be like that?
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>>337231480
>my analysis of game features and their effect on the brain as "reductionist"
>when your argument was "Oh so you're saying it's fun"
Nigger, please. If anyone here is being reductionist it's you.
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>>337231182
I don't think you even understand what you're saying, Sigmund
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>>337224575

Why is most Overwatch threads about Mercy now? You guys do know she got pushed to worst support after the Zenyatta buff last patch right?
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>>337231182
>You're having fun
>But it's not actual real fun

We're sitting at computers playing shit that isn't real, jerking off to pixels on the screen, quit this bullshit.
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>>337231595
A good game is one that you want to keep playing because the core gameplay is fun.

An addictive game is one that you want to keep playing because of psychological tricks like that.
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I was bored of shit as DaS3 and didn't have anything to play which was why I actually tried the beta in the first place.

Now that it's over I'm fucking bored once again.
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>>337231573
nothin personnel, kid
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>>337231595
>>337231480
Why do you dipshits think anon is saying it's bad?

Why is anyone pushing back against the idea that Blizzard hires psychologists to make their games addictive? They are completely transparent about that. Fucking google "Blizzard psychologist."

Why is your first reaction getting defensive
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>>337231598
please, point me to a game that only releases chemicals when it's arbitrarily okay to do so
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>>337231689
Lurk more.
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>>337230956
The drug I used to get my kicks on just feels so... so bland now.


WHAT WILL I DO. I NEED MY FIX
REEE
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>>337231612
im not saying reductionist analysis is a bad thing

its a good thing, im just pointing out if you are going to say "fun activity releases dopamine in your brain!" and then proceed to claim thats not how its supposed to be (?) then i dont understand you, because everything we enjoy is just chemicals interracting with eachother
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>>337230539

like>>337231119
said, i dont necessarily think they made it the way it is for the sole reason of being addictive. yes, they obviously want tons of people to play and they want it to be super accessible, but alot of those things you listed actually makes the gameplay alot more fun giving a better experience in the end.

even playing lucio, i didnt get nearly as many kills as when i played as hanzo but just the way the character moves and plays was so much fun. i had a blast just skating on walls and disrupting people with my right click button.

blizzard games are known to be addictive, but you cant say that half that reason is because most of the time the games are genuinely good and have ALOT of polish
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>>337231729
either way I'm playing vidya rather than shitposting on a chilean alpaca farmer's collective
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>>337231258
>filename
>"ehh shit happens"
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>>337231598
>DUUUUDE CHEMICALS DUUUUDE CORPORATIONS DUUUUDE CHEMICALS DUUUUDE CORPORATIONS DUUDE CHEMICALS DUUDE CORPORATIONS DUUUUDE CHEMICALS DUUUUDE CORPORATIONS
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>>337231862
>well, what is it?jpg
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>>337231691
You're retarded.
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>>337231882
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>>337231337
There are tons of great and enjoyable games out there, it sickens me how hooked people are on these free to play shitfests that become chores more than leisure activities. It's goddamn awful listening to people complain about there being no video games to play when there are so many other games that they have yet to even glance at. Fuck off.

>>337231346
I don't remember much of that comic beyond Roadhog giving everyone the Q treatment. Roadhog and Junkrat are great though.

>>337231421
That sounds pretty good. I'm actually pretty hard on myself and others, and am generally solution oriented when it comes to games. Every time one of them complains about how bullshit something is or get mad at the enemy getting PotG or winning or whatever I jump on them about it. All of that energy spent whining can be used to reflect on losses and think of ways to improve your play.

>>337231689
What buff? He just received a QoL change.
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Withdrawals from this game, even though beta ended only yesterday
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>>337231949
>I don't remember much of that comic beyond Roadhog giving everyone the Q treatment. Roadhog and Junkrat are great though.
>doesn't even remember/or even watched Conan the Barbarian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PQ6335puOc
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>>337231991
anon i've already fapped today
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>>337231991
oh god, people drawing dicks on their waifu's now? I really fucking hate this place
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>>337231824
>if you are going to say "fun activity releases dopamine in your brain!" and then proceed to claim thats not how its supposed to be (
That wasn't my claim at all. That you think it was boggles my fucking mind.

Is your analysis, then, that nothing can be psychologically addicting? That media cannot be tailor-made and targeted at the reward center through psychological tricks?

If it is, you're very clearly and demonstrably wrong. If it's not, I don't know why the fuck you're arguing with me.
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>The overjustification effect occurs when an expected external incentive such as money or prizes decreases a person's intrinsic motivation to perform a task. The overall effect of offering a reward for a previously unrewarded activity is a shift to extrinsic motivation and the undermining of pre-existing intrinsic motivation. Once rewards are no longer offered, interest in the activity is lost; prior intrinsic motivation does not return, and extrinsic rewards must be continuously offered as motivation to sustain the activity.

This is why you don't like video games anymore when you aren't trying to get some imaginary achievement
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>>337232070
wheredoyouthinkweare.jpg
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>>337225915
>And the extreme fast pace has made every other game feel slow.

Play starcraft or a fighting game.
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is this gaem like Enemy Territory?
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>>337231949
You think I have money to buy games or something? Fuck you.
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>>337231941
>WAKE UP SHEEPLE TAKE LSD TO FREEEEEEEE YOUR MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND
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>>337232070
>now
Literally half of the overwatch porn is futa
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>>337232070
I'll have you know that all my waifus have dicks, even if its not canon
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>>337232146
you're a PC cunt just pirate fucking anything
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>>337231729
you cant just say the game is tricking you its not actually fun. your just straw-manning because you dont like the game / didnt play it. people have different opinions, and personally i think the gameplay is incredibly fun. Im not "addicted" because of the lootboxes or the xp, i didnt even open alot of my lootboxes till the end of the beta. im "addicted" becuase i had a fucking great time playing the game with my friends and snipping people with hanzo.

and the physiological bs is so vague. you can say that about any game that has some sort of progression / carrot on a stick reward
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>>337231729
Seems like something that's incredibly subjective.
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>>337224674
I feel the same fucking way man, been playing video games for over 20 years, but the fun and excitement I had playing a game with friends again.

Fuck you Blizzard and your addictive shit games.
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>>337232189
>Pirating Overwatch
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>>337232274
>overwatch is the only game on PC that isn't hearthstone
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>>337232212
I'm not saying you can't find the gameplay fun, but it's obvious that some people here were actually addicted.
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>>337232163
>>337231882
Sorry, do you seriously not believe that psychologists are brought on to media projects to make them more addicting?

If you genuinely think that you're fucking retarded.

Psychology has become so intrinsically tied with marketing and media development that basically everything you're exposed to is tailor made to manipulate you.

For fuck's sake, the layout, lighting, and music in your local walmart and grocery store are designed to get you to buy more for no reason

It's time to grow up.
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tfw learning blender mostly just for making overwatch porn
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at least my waifu is still in another game..
it's shit but it will fill the void for two weeks
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>>337232189
There's nothing interesting to pirate, bitch. I like multiplayer games.
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>>337231991
Why does she have 2 nutsacks.
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>>337232274
>posting yurus
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>>337232212
You don't know what a straw-man is.

The people saying the game is addictive are saying that because they're addicted. They bought the game.
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>>337232085
>people are exploiting the function of how or physiology works in order to give people and a fun experience
>this is horrible

why tho
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>>337232354
I can post Biyoris too
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>>337232104
But I don't give a shit about achievements and actively dislike games with unlock treadmills.
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>>337232313
+1
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>>337232389

>>337232104
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>>337232339
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>>337232389
No one ever said the second part you whiny little cunt

Why do you feel the need to defend Blizzard's honor from imaginary slights on an anonymous image board
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Healers - Sluts
Mercy - Healer
Mercy = Slut
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>>337232146
That's not an excuse. If you really wanted to play games then there are thousands you can emulate or pirate.

>>337231729
>>337230539
>>337229910
>>337232313
You are so full of shit and need to stop posting. Just say that you don't like the game, at least be honest, damn. It's actually okay to not like things.

>>337232274
You are fucking stupid.
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>>337232445
then you didn't fall for the meme, congrats
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>>337232492
Mercy is a pure angel, you bastard.
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>>337232493
>Just say that you don't like the game
Are you mentally handicapped?

Why do you think these people dislike the game? They're literally telling you they're addicted to it.

Sometimes people are just saying something is, not that it's the best or worst thing ever. Everything isn't a polar argument you can win or lose.
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>>337232493
>If you really wanted to play games then there are thousands you can emulate or pirate.
>Implying that just because there are so many games they necessarily interest me
Just fuck off already you avatarfagging little shit.
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I'm not gonna say that Overwatch isn't casual as shit as shooters go, because it is.
>no fall damage
>infinite ammo
>ultimates
However, I don't see how people can't like a game unless they're """"""addicted"""""" to it. You could say any game that people like enough to buy is one they're addicted to. But here's the kicker: you're addicted to 4chan. You come here every day, even though you know you could be doing something better. You argue pointless topics that would bore most other people, and at the end of it, all you have to show are some (You)s and a bunch of wasted time. I bet every (You) releases a bit of chemicals, huh? This site must be designed to hook you, everyone run while you can.
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>>337232551

Angel who loves to suck cocks.
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>>337227330
Same. I didn't want the game, now it's all I can think about.
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>>337232492
What did you say about her you son of basterd bitch?
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>>337232492
>Zenyatta
>a slut
fuk u nigga
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>>337232651
Stop it or Reinhardt will kick your ass
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>>337232338
You're a good man. You should make a tumblr or something where you can post updates people can follow. I don't want to have to hope to find your stuff in OW threads.
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>>337232338
Nice work so far. What I can see of the model looks good and the cloth has realistic physics.

Make a hanzo if you can. My dick would be forever grateful
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Some people that enjoyed the beta will have died before the game is released. They will never know what it's like to play the full release.
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>>337232338
As long as you make some Pharah x Mercy. Pharah is sadly neglected.
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>>337232796
I beat my rod to Mercy, that's enough already.
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>>337232646
>I don't see how people can't like a game unless they're """"""addicted"""""" to it
Where is this imaginary viewpoint coming from

Who is saying this

Where is this post because the ones I see are people laying out how the game is addictive (which seems right) without claiming that it's a bad thing.

>You're addicted to 4chan
You bet your sweet bippy, you dipshit nigger. Except it wasn't designed that way, it just turned out that way.
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>>337232794
I have one set up, I'll post it in these threads, or a /vg/ thread whenever i feel more confident with my skills as an animator.
>>337232795
I actually started porting Hanzo from SFM to Blender earlier today.
>>337232850
Pharah top tier after mercy
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>>337232635
I'm talking about you. You're telling people shit that is common knowledge for no discernible reason.

>>337232641
No, smash you empty skull into a wall. You're complaining about there being "no games to play" and you won't even put in the effort to fucking look because you're so absorbed in your routines that you can't even be assed to try new things.
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>>337232482
>whiney little cunt

i see we're resorting to namecalling now, does that mean i won the arguement?
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