Can anyone tell me why /v/ hates brutal doom?
Mod's pretty fun, especially with russian overkill
The creator's an asshole
>>337184040
Russian Overkill?
Also I really like BD, though the rockets seemed nerfed to hell yet still rekt you on splash damage, and the latest update made long range firing with the Machine Gun/Pistol weapon almost impossible outside of single-tap firing
>Brutal Doom why bad?
The sound design is completely fucked with digital distortion everywhere. ADS. Fucked up balance with OP hitscan enemies that slow the game down.
Generally, it's a silly and slightly fun diversion that ended up getting way too much attention and ended up flooding the scene with idiots that constantly nag for WAD compatibility.
>>337184536
v19 was the best. anything after that was a piece of shit
>>337184275
so is the doom creators
>there are people that like Brutal DOOM but hate the new DOOM
i don't get these people
>>337184040
Creator is a hack who stole other people's work.
It also ruins the balance and does horrible things to performance with the gratuitous gore.
I mean, I love my gibs, but literally every single tiny bullet splattering meat everywhere makes them kinda get old.
>>337184805
i had fun with brutal doom, i did not have fun with Doom 4
Crazy huh?
>>337184040
Brutal babbies insisting that Doom is shit without the mod. Also Sgt. Mark's shenanigans.
It's okay. I always found Demonsteele and Project MSX more fun.
>>337184805
I'm guessing these people are the ones that hate nuDoom the most. Played a fucking mod of a classic game, became fucking experts, sperg out because they know what a tr00 FPS is REEEEEE!
>>337184974
>>337184974
Not out yet but ok
>b-but muh outsourced multiplayer mode :(
>>337184606
>OP hitscan enemies
What? Everything is projectile based, so even if an enemy sees you and fires you can dodge out of the way unlike the original
>WAD compatibility
Why compatibility is needed? Tonnes of Chaingun grunts make BD fucking hard especially if they're far away due to their natural range and added accuracy via BD, but that's pretty much the only issue.
>>337184805
D44M looks fucking slow, that's partially why.
>>337185026
>Sgt. Mark's shenanigans.
care to fill me in?
>Someone tries literally any other incompatible Doom wad combination.
>"oh, i guess these don't work together. oh well..."
>Brutal Doomfags find something that doesn't work with Brutal Doom
>"WAAAAH WHY DOESN'T THIS PIECE OF SHIT WORK WITH BRUTAL DOOM FIX IT NOW
>>337185219
I think, among other things, he ended up getting banned from the zdoom or doomworld forums for telling someone to kill themselves along with providing instructions on how to do so
>>337184606
>Generally, it's a silly and slightly fun diversion that ended up getting way too much attention and ended up flooding the scene with idiots
This.
The actual product itself isn't that bad, it's actually kind of fun, but its overall effect on the development and fan community is too negative to ignore. I call this the Call of Duty effect.
>>337185219
Lots of guys make a big deal about
>the time when he tried to make gib sprites out of real gore pics
>the time he told a guy to kill himself
>getting himself banned in pretty much every bigger doom forum
There's probably more, but I don't remember.
>>337185690
reminds me of a game developer saying he will kill gaben
anyone got the screenshot?
>>337186097
What was the game again?
OP here
What's the best Doom mod combination would you guys recommend me?
>>337186876
Doom RPG + Doom RL Arsenal is pretty fun. Also get OBLIGE and make some random maps to go with.
I find that Brutal Doom is pretty overrated, it's okay but there's better gameplay mods that it overshadows
It also caused drama. SgtMark used to act like a cunt but he did mellow out.
>>337185202
>Why compatibility is needed? Tonnes of Chaingun grunts make BD fucking hard especially if they're far away due to their natural range and added accuracy via BD, but that's pretty much the only issue.
It's because the BD fanbase tries out map sets designed for vanilla and then they complain that it doesn't work well with it, and thus pissing off the mappers
>>337187362
>DoomRL Arsenal OR LegenDoom
>beamflashlight.pk3 OR dd_flashlight.pk3 (OBLIGE levels can be dark as fuck)
>demonsteele-nowthatswhaticallmidi-v3.5.pk3 (much less setup) OR Jimmy's Jukebox (customizable)
>OBLIGE; consider checking out their forums for modified builds with more options designed for GZDoom
>Running HDoom or Demonsteele along with Brutal Doom
Every time
>>337188293
>Look through Demonsteele options while playing it with Doom 2
>OH FUCK, SKELETONS! option
>"Huh, what does this do?"
>" ... Oh."
>>337187804
>It's because the BD fanbase tries out map sets designed for vanilla and then they complain that it doesn't work well with it, and thus pissing off the mappers
I've had the occasional missed "kill all the enemies" triggers or "cross trigger to activate X" triggers with BD, but that's been the worst I've seen.
Some maps are ridiculously hard sans saving thanks to BD, but that's not a mappers issue, yeah.
I like both Vanilla and BD, but have been playing BD a lot more lately for something new.
>>337188293
>HDoom + Brutal Doom
I don't even
>>337184040
>Can anyone tell me why /v/ hates brutal doom?
I don't know I thought it was pretty fun. Then again I don't think DOOM is going to be a steaming pile of shit either so I guess I'm just a special snowflake.
>Brutal shit infesting other fps'
>>337189036
It's to catch out retards who load quite literally everything alongside Brutal Doom
>>337186768
>Can anyone tell me why /v/ hates brutal doom?
It's just another weapon mod.
What people hate are the cunts saying "this is how Doom is MEANT to be!!"
Just play Doom with Smooth Doom as it doesn't fuck with the mechanics. Even BD on 'classic' screws things up.
>>337189668
I just tried Smooth Doom the other day. That's some good shit right there.
>>337188293
>put HDoom and Brutal Doom together
>shittons of skeletons coming and the screen says ">playing brutal doom"
Can anyone explain me why in the hell that happend?
>>337190247
Not today
>>337189790
How does it improve the game? Sorry for spoon feeding
>>337187804
>There's a particularly worrying emphasis on torture and ridiculously excessive violence, almost like you were bullied in school (but not quite at the level of insanity as our best buddies Klebold and Harris) and this is your way of venting
lmao fucking armchair psychologists up in here
>>337190491
To be fair, it's basically 10 years old first shock site material. Rippkng demons in two osnfunfornthe first 50 times and then it's a chore.
>>337190247
>>337190448
It basically just changes animations to make them look smoother. Also alt sprites out of the ass. It doesn't change gameplay.
>>337190337
Somebody else did a better edit than mine
>>337190448
Really smooth animations. Weapons, monsters, even the statusbar face - anything that moves has more frames of animation
>>337190335
Ask /vr/
>>337190651
yeah it's silly ultraviolence. kind of like doom.
I need to make more Doom gifs
>>337190337
>>337190827AAAAAHHHHH
>>337190920
Doom is bloody and metal but it's also a good game that's about going fast and be efficient as you murder demons. BD adds ads and dumb finishing moves. It's not bad but it's pretty dumb
>>337190763
That sounds like sex.
>>337184040
>Can anyone tell me why /v/ hates brutal doom?
It's popular.
This is the answer to "why does /v/ hate X?"" in every scenario.
>>337185136
it leaked and was released prematurely in many places. The entire campaign's already streamed online, and I can tell ya: it's pure shit.
>cinematics, all the time
>glory kills = obligatory
>upgrade systemS = obligatory
>pea shooter guns
>muh throwback retro bits and jokes!
>ending literally "lol look forward to teh sequel, goy!"
>MP is still shit, as always
>>337188293
if it were up to me i'd just imitate the NO WAY screen from sonic & knuckles
>>337188293
HDoom is fun to play though, it literally only changes what the weapons look like and what the creatures look like. My only complaint is the random sex you can have that serves literally zero purpose to anything other then your boner.
>>337185136
>how do you know it's gonna be shit??
you're a bit slow, bro: >>337159816
>>337193974
Thats the whole point tho, for you to jack it to the sexy demon girls.
>>337194198
It's called a joke, Anon.
>>337193974
>rushing across the map to get that one Demon with hearts up
Pretty hardcore
Can someone post the most recent 'So you wanna play DOOM' info graph?
I only dislike that it's some people's only experience of DooM and they call it 'better' by default. It's a fun mod with nice attention to detail, but it's not an improvement to the base game.
>>337185690
You say that like most people here would never tell someone to kill themselves and provide instructions.
>>337194330
>that one Demon with hearts up
I don't even understand what you're talking about. I don't remember seeing anything like that in Doom 1 or the amount of Doom 2 that I've played.
>>337185202
>You can dodge everything in BD
>Chaingunners make BD fucking hard especially if they are far away due to their natural range and added accuracy
Okay
>>337193861
I know Reelism does this with MAP01.
>>337196362
damn, kinsie thought of everything
>>337196439
Complete with the music, too.
Is there a Doom mod that adds in a semen meter? It would make this image feel more complete.
I get the impression that DoomRPG is a clusterfuck
>>337184275
So like everyone on /v/?
