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>I DONT NEED TO LEARN MATH, WHEN I GROW UP I WILL MAKE VIDEOGAMES.
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>I DONT NEED TO LEARN MATH, WHEN I GROW UP I WILL MAKE VIDEOGAMES.
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Programming requires a lot of math?
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>WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU NEED TO KNOW POLYSYNDENTION FOR, WE'RE CODING, NOT DOING MATH NIG
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>>337180506
Yes.

Programming is almost entirely math based.
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>>337180506
Anything meaningful requires a lot of math.
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>>337180506
Basically, you use a lot of matrix and vectoring. It is not by accident that you call small codes an "algorithm"
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I will NEVER, EVER understand people who want to get into programming but dislike mathrmatics.
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>he fell for the making videogames meme
ahahaah
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i realized the kids who were good at math were on adderall or some prescribed amphetamine. im talking about the white kids only. any little thing, they get a prescription for.
wish i had that shit growing up, i wouldve been on the honor roll too. my parents just thought i needed to pay attention more or something.
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>>337180914
we didnt know.
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>>337180996
I had no medication of any kind and I did great at math. We're not all mentally ill like you are.
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>>337180506
no, unless you're in research or graphics
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I just wanted to be a play tester.
>get to play vidya early
>talk as much shit as you want
>make biased choices on what's good
>help fix good games
>serious devs takes your words more important than anyone else's
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Can i be a director instead?
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>muh STEM
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>>337181385
thats called beta release or kickstarter demo now.
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>Women in STEM
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>>337181226
you must be a nip then.

>We're not all mentally ill like you are.
white people are all mentally ill. i can prove it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-whites-more-likely-to-get-antidepressant-prescription-than-african-americans-hispanics/

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-antidepressant-use-by-americans-201110203624

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2582403/
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>>337181537
>return 5;

>it always returns 5
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how do i get good at math?
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>>337181385
>Make shit pay
>Spend hours to whole days playing alpha demos of shovelware games trying to make glitches happen so you can write a report
I've only heard shit things about being a tester
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>>337181607
Stop being dumb
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>>337181607
Get a math book.

Force yourself to read it.

Keep doing it without getting frustrated.

In a few years you'll get it
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>>337181607
have smart parents, inherit their IQ
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>>337181607
Not being a dumb frog poster for starters.
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>>337181537
>Q_rsqrt()

i knew this was gonna be the left side
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>>337181714
>american education sistem.
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>>337181607
practice
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>>337181801
>sistem
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>>337181607
You can do it anon! You are a human and that means you have a brain! Keep doing math until you die and you will be smartish!
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Well there's lots of things you can do to make video games that don't require coding, like modelling, texturing, art in general, writing, composing etc. Any indian kid can code the real talent is the creative process.
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>>337181607
repetition. that's why all asians are good at math
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>>337181573
White girls need their XanaX
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>>337181854
>
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I don't need to learn anything because I am content with being ignorant. Smart people are statistically more depressed and unhappy with their lives
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>>337181537
Was the person who posted this trying to roast women programmers or do they just not know?
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>>337181801

>sistem

oh the ironing
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>>337180021
This is why I am going to be a lawyer, Its going to be alot of fucking reading but at least no math
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>>337181801
>sistem
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>>337181537
> no //what the fuck? comment
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>>337181607
Take 36 miligrams of methylphenidate every fucking day on mornings for a year.
I literally would have become a drop out retard if it wasn't for the sweet meds
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>>337181537
Can someone explain this to a non-coder
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>>337180506
Not really except for specific fields. It's more logic than anything.
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My biggest regret in life is probably having too many friends, as well all know mathematical ability is inversely proportional to social skills.

At least you can charm or schmooze your way into decent jobs.
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>>337182007
they're completely unrelated snippets and the right side has unnecessary bullshit despite being a simple comparison program
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>>337181602
sometimes it returns b wtf are you talking about
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>>337181537
this is satire right?
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>>337181801
sistem
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>>337182007
The code on the left is actually simpler and the code on the right does not actually work if b is greater then a since it will only give off 5.
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>>337181607
Literally all i do is pay attention in class and do the homework and i make high A's on every exam. Currently in calculus 2.
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>>337181801
>>337181854
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>>337181946
in my defence i was pretending to be retarded.
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>>337182007
i think the one on the left is a way to calculate square roots quickly. theres a wikipedia article on that code segment. Im not a coder but thats what someone said in a thread before

the one on the right tells you if number A is less than number B
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>>337182007
>>337182081

The 'female' code doesn't work at all how described. All the women think that code is so much better than the 'male' code
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>>337180914
I gave up the same time I started falling behind in math. It was just a childhood dream of mine to make my own fighting game, but I fell off super hard once I hit algebra. I still want to make something, but that would require me to go back to 7th grade math and learn forward from there. Guess some dreams are better left as such. It hurts.
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Learning math is basically an endless cycle of hitting walls, then coming to realizations.

Just when whatever you practiced finally clicks, the next chapter comes in and pushes you back down.
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>>337180741
>anything meaningful requires math
[CITATION NEEDED]
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>>337181607

every two to three pages of a textbook theres something new.

go do it
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>>337181537
>>337182110
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>>337182147
>needing to reply

why are you so insecure
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>>337181573
Stay mad nigger.
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>>337182282
it was proven using math
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>>337181801
That's bait.
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>>337182007
>>337182220
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root
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>>337180914
its mostly logic and its easer to understand than some "obscure" simbols and formulas
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>>337182364
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>>337181385
>get to play vidya
nope
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What's the highest level of math I should know? I'm comfortable with algebra, trigonometry, and Calculus I.
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>>337182326
childhood and adolescence problems.
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>>337180741
>Studying nanoeletronics and taking signal processing classes
This so fucking much!
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>>337182110
i thought not looking at the image but the comments solidifed it for me
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>>337181681
>>337181714
>>337181732
>>337181756
>>337181848
>>337181880
>>337181904
>>337181980
>>337182136
>>337182284
But where exactly would be a good starting place to get into the harder stuff?
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>>337182225
It's never too late to start, anon. If you want to accomplish your dream, work towards it.
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>>337180021
Coming from someone making a 3d game right now...

I'm basically only using timers (like seconds), points (x,y,z), 360 degree angles, and very basic PEMDAS.

I can easily get by with that.
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>>337182307
>that IDE
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>>337182136
You probably had a good foundation to begin with, good on you though.
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>>337182007
The one on the left does god knows what, the one on the right just returns the larger of two numbers but it has two weird mistakes:

>else if(a > b && b < a)
This returns "true" if a is more than b and b is less than a, and that's stupid because if one is true then obviously the other is true.

>return 5
This will only happen if the two numbers are exactly the same size, when what should be returned is either a or b.

The best way to write the code would be:

if(a < b) return b;
else return a

All her code compressed into two lines, AND it returns the correct result if the two numbers are the same size.
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>tfw you realize school is more about who is the best at being obedient and has better memorization
>application of knowledge and critical thinking is punished
>tfw you have neither
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>>337182502
University
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>>337182307
>coding in the master branch
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>Tfw my daughter's son told me this
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>>337180626
No it doesn't. I'm shit at math but great at programming. Unless you're trying to program something for a mathematical or scientific application math isn't something you need to excel at (of course assuming you're good up to college level math otherwise you'd be right).
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>tfw you were young and it looked so bright
>tfw as you aged and it all started changing
>tfw you start losing your friends
>tfw you should probably an hero
>tfw romero tells you we need to go back
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>Son, why aren't you studying? you just keep on playing yer vidya gaeims

>I don't need school dad I will work wherever I want don't worry seriously
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>>337182502
Khan Academy probably
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>>337182327
time for your lexipro, girl.
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>>337181573
We're not as poor as you nigs
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>>337182662
>my daughter's son
cuck
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>>337180741
meaningful to whose standards?

And no, programming is a language, hasn't got anything to do with math.
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>>337182668
what languages famalam?
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>>337181385
playtesting is not what it used to be in the 90s/00s

Anybody can sign up and you receive "gifts" for particiaption, much like participating in surveys or product testing.

I did playtesting at redstorm and the options were one of their games for free or $25 for a 3hr playtest.

I was an extra so I basically toured the facility and walked home with RB6:Siege without doing shit except calibrating an Oculus.
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>>337182726

At least he's playing games and not shitposting or desperately clamoring for attention through social media
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I just wanted to be 88 fingers edward
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>>337180506
there's much more to making video games than programming

I am an animator and I need to know zero math

pro tip, this board is not for people who make video games aside from the occasional dev generals/how's that game coming along threads, aside from that its a large collection of man babies who shitpost at each other about something they like instead of doing the thing they like

most people here who've at point thought they had the motivation and drive to make a video game have probably downloaded blender and unity, watched up to part 2/50 of a tutorial then dropped everything because it was too hard
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>>337182282
He's one of those memers who says something like "the entire universe can be reduced to nothing but numerical values, so math is the key to everything!". Typical math major. All humans are born knowing how to use logic, which is basically an abstract form of mathematics. You don't need to know calculus to run a country.
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>>337182502
in order to learn math (or anything really) you need to figure out what specifically you dont understand and find something to explain it perfectly to you
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>>337182596
Why does school forbid you from looking at your material during a test when in real life you can look up anything at anytime?
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>>337182307
I've only ever used HTML(lel) and Java. What's going on here?
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>>337182502
You're still frog posting you piece of shit
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>>337182502

Brush up on trig and precal stuff
https://www.khanacademy.org/math

can do the basic calculus stuff there too.

then for more advanced stuff

http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/
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I volunteer as a GED math tutor, and I am astounded at how much stuff people just don't get. They don't understand that x+(-y) = x-y. They don't understand that a fraction is just division that you haven't done yet. They have no idea how to solve a dimensional analysis problem.

The average math-illiterate's method for solving a word problem is to find the first two numbers mentioned in the problem and just multiply them together.
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>>337182508
Yeah, but where the fuck would I go to re-learn algebra and everything from there forward? I don't even remember what levels of math I took afterwards. It was all just a blur of letters, numbers, and countless hours of tutoring just so I could barely pass my math classes.
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>>337180021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ani_6IRV20A
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>it's a "code which makes you want to suicide" episode
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>>337182928
why cant anyone google how to do all the responsibilities of X job without graduating at Y university with Z degree
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>>337182928
because the point of school isn't so much to make you memorize shit its to train you to use your fucking brain in a general sense

memorization is part of using your brain
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>>337182995
The Internet

Khan Academy
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>>337182928
the point of school is to fill your head with common knowledge so you dont have to waste time googling basic things
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>>337182136
where do you volunteer at?
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>>337182995

khan academy is actually a good resource for this
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>>337182813
>programming is a language
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>>337182935
The person is just using the terminal to change directories repeatedly. They're repeatedly mistyping (missing the space between cd and ..) and seemingly unable to find the directory 'code'.
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>>337181607

You have to develop an innate passion for Math.

I used to hate Math, took Medicine as a sort of preconstructed career path back in High School, but took Engineering in College. Almost stopped out because the Math was intense. I took my time and actually read through concepts, had some math-savvy friends help me along the way and I realized it isn't that bad after all, so I continued progress and I legitimately liked what I was studying.

I will never get people who hate math related courses because it's "hard." You just need to understand underlying concepts and principles and do some drills and it will stick with you for a long time. Compare it to other courses that people take to avoid math like Law and Medicine which I think are way more troublesome because of the sheer volume of knowledge you have to consistently drill in your head for hours on end.

Lucky for you there are YouTube channels like Khan Academy and PatrickJMT to teach college level algebra and calculus in easily digestible videos, back then you really had to dig in books
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>>337183128
that structure is hella ugly T.B.HONESTO
I remember my early codes. They were ugly but not this bad.
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>>337182995
I have a thing.

Don't know how valid it is though.
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>>337182967
I went to classes to touch up on math before my GED test and this is 100% accurate. I felt really sorry for the tards in those classes because there is no way in hell they could pass that test.
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>>337182462
If you don't use it immediately after college you're going to forget all of it in a year anyways
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>>337181537
They're both shit and totally unrelated.
Karlie is actually great at commenting her code.
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>>337182995
Head first Algebra.
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>>337182784
according to those statistics whites make up half if not most of the health care customers. therefore the need for cheaper healthcare is because whites cant continue to afford it.
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>>337182132
>if b is greater then
>then

How can somebody that knows code not understand then and than?
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It's really hard to do well in college level math if you've had a shit foundation. I realized how fucking behind I was when I got to my first college algebra class last semester. It's also kind of demoralizing.
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>>337181537
>it is a hacker code to steal nudes
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>>337182967 meant >>337183214
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>>337183147
You know the funny thing is that the people that say that are the same people that like pic related.

God I hate the internet so much.
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How hard would it be to learn AI programming, and what math subjects would that require?
I get that "AI" is a really broad term and could describe a lot of things, but for example, in a 3D game getting the AI to react to the player and give chase, and once they've lost the player, go into a search state and eventually resume as normal.
Not looking to jump right into the super complex shit immediately, I know you start as small as possible and then gradually build up. Just wanna know what I'm getting into with later shit.
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>>337181537
why doesnt the right one work?
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>>337182007
A bunch of retards ITT think that documenting and commenting your code is bad practise.
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>>337183128
I taught myself out of a For Dummies book, and not even my shit looked like that.
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>>337182935
She's just doing the command prompt equivalent of looking through your folders on in a file explorer and calling it coding
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>>337182967
As someone who is just above functionally retarded when it comes to math and science, it was honestly a matter of the teachers I had and the way they taught things. I remember taking Physics and it wasn't until near the very end of the semester that it "clicked" with me that you treat every problem as a puzzle. You do certain things first that translate into equations and slowly piece them together. If someone would have just said that at the beginning, I wouldn't have had any trouble to begin with. People that can simplify it like you do are a gift to a world full of idiots like me, and I thank you for it.
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>>337183459
It works. It's just dumb.
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Is the American public education system this bad?
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>>337183396
A little nonprofit org started last year. They were paying me until funding ran out last month. Two of my students have graduated, and I'm still volunteering with a third.
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>>337181537
These are two completely different functions, right?
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>>337183229
>>337182813
computer code is a language. the reason its so arbitrary is because to conserve space and because the developers didn't want "others" to get ahead of the game.
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>>337183420
>How to write a resume
>What taxes are/how to do them
>How to vote
You do learn that shit in primary/high school though
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>>337183543
Does it feel good knowing you helped them better themselves?

Honestly asking
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>>337182967
I barely remembered anything from school

Doesn't (-y) just mean 1*-y?
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>>337183654
Not in most public American HS
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>>337182251
Its just humans trying to be calculators, no emotional bullshit, but one that can reason the whole process and result, like you can't have negative apples but you can be deeply in debt with your bank.
Humans can understand abstract concepts as zero and infinity.
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>>337183497
XD and :D are not efficient uses of text.
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>>337183654
But that isn't the point. Those people boast about how literally any information is a google search away, yet complain that school never taught them anything.
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>>337182927
Best answer. Learn basic calculus OP (limits, derivatives and integrals), it's really useful when learning physics and other subjects.
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>>337183654
Most schools don't teach that. At least mine didn't
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>>337182132
>the right does not actually work if b is greater then a since it will only give off 5
Why? It looks like it'll return b to me.
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>>337183420
he took shit classes prob
photography or something
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>>337182928
google "How to do open heart surgery" and see how far you get
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>>337183420
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>>337183565
Programming is just instructions given to a computer. Instructions are one-way. Language is two-way. Exactly how many programming "languages" do you know?
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>>337183420
My school wrote our resumes with us, and the soc studies teacher brought in forms to sign up to vote. And while necessary, none of these things are exceptionally difficult and can't be solved by simply asking whoever runs them.
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I want to get into marine mechanics, what kind of math should I expect to be doing?
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>>337183420
I was taught some of that in my Freshman year of high school. I think every student has to learn personal finance in New Jersey.

Totally forgot about it all a year later of course.
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>>337183420
my school didnt help me with that shit
neither did my parents
i had to learn the hard way
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>>337180741

Medicine barely requires math, and you can't deny it's meaningful.
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>>337183657
Yeah usually it does. It gets frustrating when I don't feel that I'm making progress, though.

>>337183708
The parenthesis are just there for clarity, because "x+-y" looks weird.
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>>337182928
I don't really agree with what you're saying per say but school as a whole is actually just designed to make you a slave for the Collective.
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>>337183910
Ask a marine mechanic.
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>>337183850
Are you that stupid? The point isn't that you can learn anything with a google search, it's that school forbids you from searching anything at all.
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>>337183420
>How to buy a car or house
I still don't know how to do this and since there are jews EVERYWHERE and I have autism, I don't know what information is bullshit or low tier and what will min/max my finances

Someone make a video game where you have to finance a house without falling victim to scammers and get the best deal
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>>337182924
>All humans are born knowing how to use logic
Then explain tumblr
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How many of you have real job experience it gets old hearing ambitious faggots parroting the same old internet rhetoric
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>>337180506
Yes, although it doesn't require specific knowledge of calculus or advanced algebra.
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>>337183535
It's far worse -- you wouldn't learn half the shit on this board in a typical American high school. It literally is not required. Algebra 2 is the highest math required when I graduated; I heard some people got out with just feometry that's fucking pathetic.

Alg2 is just polynomials and 2x2 and 3x3 matrices really.
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>>337183420
those are all basic adult responsibilities even a thirteen year old could figure out.
also, I tried burying my XYZ post in a few layers of irony
kill me
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>>337180741
uneducated opinion or bait
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>>337180021
For someone who pretty much got bullied out of school and never had the confidence to properly learn math, are there any online resources/books/courses you could recommend?
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>>337184174
why is calculus 100x easier to understand in code than in the stupid whatever the fuck bizarre math notation they use?
are they trying to make it more confusing for no reason?
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>>337184157
They were born knowing how to use logic but have chosen to ignore it.
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>I DON'T NEED TO LEARN MUSIC THEORY, WHEN I GROW UP I WILL MAKE MUSIC
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>>337183798
Better than implementing a fast inverse square root and commenting it with '//what the fuck?' or just nothing in this case
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>>337182621
I manage to fuck things up whenever I try to branch and merge in git.
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>>337184226
I literally only took algebra classes (4 semesters) in 4 years of HS. It's a joke, and it hurt me coming into college, they expected me to know shit I was never taught.
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Protip: For a standard project you can pick up any math skills you need on the spot over the afternoon for any specific task-if you cant figure it out you can probably google it or look at another game and see how somebody else did it.

Its more logic based then anything else, if you cant handle numbers at all ( For example, not wanting to play a RPG since you don't like optimising your numbers. ) then you should not be in game design.
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>>337182924
math is a fabrication by humans and is used as a language of approximation describing the universe.

math is actually the least real thing there is.
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>>337183447
basic AI programming only requires you to know anything you need to program in the first place, that is, logic and Boolean algebra
AI in games is mostly just bunch of states and functions executed at specific state values
to control what an object does with these functions requires more math than this
the hardest part is to think about what should your AI do (shoot when close enough? when it sees a target? combination of both? should it run at low health or go frenzy?), constructing an AI doesn't have much to do with math, implementation of behaviour (for example, movement in 3D space, searching for target) requires much more knowledge than that
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>>337183543
how many were old people and how many were young adults/teens?
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>>337184317
Doesn't sound very logical.
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>>337183447
If you want to do simple flow-charts for game AI, you can learn it quite easily. If you want to get into the academic field of AI (machine learning, vision, natural language processing etc.), that requires a lot of study.

ML is actually not that bad if you understand statistics tbqhfam
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>>337184260
Khan Academy is probably the best free online basic math education you can get.
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>>337184576
Mine have all been adults. 30s-60s range.
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>>337184421
m8 that's your fault unless you went to a really shitty school. I lived in a small town in the south and I took classes all the way to calculus 1 in high school. My graduating class was less than 100 people.
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>>337182818
C and assembly. I can do a little bit of C++, but I steer away from bloated and slow OOP shit that it tends to be. I can also do Python (kek as if that means anything) and a little bit of Java.
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>>337182967
>They don't understand that x+(-y) = x-y

How do these people function? Math isn't that hard to understand. You can't get through life without knowing this stuff.
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>>337180506
Not when you're the ideas guy
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>>337184631
Thanks!
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>>337184143
>How to buy a car

you can probably buy a car without saying a word, just wave your cash and point at a car.

or buy from the owner like a smart person
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>>337184505
>>337184620
Thanks for the information.
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>>337181607
>I am bad at math

Math is broad as fuck thing. Be more specific.
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>>337184648
My school had a graduation rate of like 40 something percent, with a body of like 3000, it's that bad.

How is it my fault? I was given the class, and I took it. How was 15 year old me supposed to have the foresight I will need more than just Algebra when I was following when the school told me to do?
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>>337184710
You sound like a huge fucking fedora.
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>>337181537
return a>b?a:b;
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>>337180506
Yes, although you don't really need specific knowledge of calculus, trigonometry, or advanced algebra. You need the logic skills, and you need to know boolean algebra. The problem is that those logical skill won't be that sharp if you were always horrible at traditional math subjects.
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>>337181537
>else if(a > b && b < a)
>comparing it to motherfucking Fast Inverse Square Root
Fuck whoever wrote this
Fuck them to death
Yes I mad
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Is it really that difficult to make a programming language based on actual language and very rudimentary math?
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>Work at a big gaming studio doing 3D models and such.
>Never used math once ever at work.
Math is le important for everything guys.
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Programming doesn't actually require you to do math, it just requires you to know how to write a math sentence.
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>>337184965
/g/ made a programming language out of emojis, so I guess anything's possible.
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>>337184421
>not taking algebra in elementary school
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>pursuing biological engineering degree
>ask a girl what her major is
>I'm learning business management (every person I've ever met with a management degree is blatantly retarded)
>she asks what I'm studying, and I tell her
>"Oh, wow! that must mean you're really smart, huh?"

I fucking HATE women
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>>337182956
shut up anon i just want to be smart and feel proud of myself for once in my life.
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>>337185063
I'm sure it couldn't do much
>>337184965
ren'py is probably the closest you'd get right now.
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>>337180021
You dont need to go that far in math, its easy, unless you are some type of fuck up who can't even pass pre-calc.
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>>337185090

hope you like dicks then
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>>337184912
If it was anything like my high school, you were only required to take math up to like algebra 2 or pre-cal, but there were also AP and dual credit classes like calculus, trig, and statistics you could take that were supposed to prepare you for college.
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>>337185090
She wants your dick, you uncultured swine
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>>337184636
I had it be pretty even. I also had quite a few pretty girls that were dumb as bricks. guys too.
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>>337184873
FINANCE a car. If I had fat stacks of money laying around it would be no problem. But I need a car to get to work and I need to work to get money for a car.

APR, how to get a loan, credit factors, whether I get the loan first or go to a dealership and apply there, how to get the lowest monthly payment without making the pay period too long, etc
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>>337182923
I know how to use blender fairly decently I just don't have any motivation to do anything period in my life.
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>math class in home school
>stare at the page and get so angry at the words and shapes that my pee pee starts to throb and hurt
>start throwing my arms around and making pig noises
>mommy rushes in and pets my tum-tum and says no more math for today
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whether you:
claim to be better than everyone for being good at math
claim to hate the education system because they made you learn math
or
claim to hate the education system because they dont teach math the way you think is best
you are abominable and should reevaluate your importance to this world.
if you want to learn new math, then you are actually a good person in this thread. thank you for making this not a complete and utter circlejerk.
fuck all else of you. you are stating obvious truths and simplicities without proposing rational solutions, or giving any valid reasoning. it's just disgusting. this is the type of person i have to deal with all of the time in the math world. fucking autists who see everything in facts and find no interest in making meaningful conversation.
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>>337184965
Try learning python. Most of what you'll use at a beginner level is basic math skills, general algebra, and boolean algebra(sounds intimidating but its not that hard to pick up what you need to know). The rest is general logic.
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>>337184327
But you can make music without knowing theory. A lot of people do it every day because you can literally make music "by ear." No matter what instrument you play or move to the notes and octaves, give or take a few for some unique instruments, stay the same. It's just a matter of execution at that point. You can't just wing it with math and apply the exact same rules for Algebra as you would with Geometry just because they both share numbers or letters.
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>>337184932
"?" is a tertiary operator.

condition ? true : false

Check if a > b.
Yes? Return a.
No? Return b.
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>>337185226
Basically the school's objective was to graduate as many students as possible, quality not considered.

THis was from a recent year, a GOOD year.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root
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>no matter how much I sleep I cantstudy/focus

Wake me up inside te-b-h familia
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>>337185406
Ok tumblr

Back to your containment cage to write about the joy of nigger dicks now
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>>337185496
ternary, not tertiary
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>>337185025
you're doing art, idiot.
if you did any engineering 3d modeling, which I do, you would use at least some math.
if you worked on any MEANINGFUL part of a game, you would use math.
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>>337185515
You're probably sleeping too much.
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>>337185406
What do you define as math? What should I learn to meet your standards?

I don't want to learn the equation for what makes a flower grow at a specific angle due to the peer pressure from gravity relative to the cuck size of the moon. I don't see any practical use in that.
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>>337185110
Depends on what the highest level math you took was. I took a couple years off after high school and am currently doing a math-based major at university. I studied up to a pre-calc level before starting classes, because anything lower than that doesn't count towards any degree.

I recommend Tobey and Slater algebra to get you up to a pre-calc level. For pre-calc and trigonometry, I recommend Swokowski. For calculus I used Stewart Calculus, but it was difficult to understand, and I wouldn't recommend using that without an instructor. you can torrent most of these books or get them for very cheap (except calc+, even used books tend to be expensive then) off amazon. like $10 cheap.
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>>337184710
>but I steer away from bloated and slow OOP shit that it tends to be. I can also do Python (kek as if that means anything) and a little bit of Java.
This sounds like 90% of /g/, aka "I've never actually written software for a living"
Language purism is misguided as fuck.
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>>337183351
Im on the verge of retardation
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>>337185362
>I just don't have any motivation to do anything period in my life.
This. Sex/family isn't a motivator. Money isn't really a motivator beyond a basic 40k/year. And I'm not passionate about anything but like to dip casually into everything. Just feels like I thought life was going to be something else and now I'm just waiting to die without wanting to kill myself and without wanting to know death either.
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>>337185226

TFW your diagnosed math disability ensured you would never take a math course in 6 years of college.
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>>337185534
>response is another meme
this thread is the embodiment of autism. i should just go back to /int/ and never leave. at least i can enjoy the memes there, they're more creative.
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>People actually think that making games is only programming.
If you didn't know, it's only the programming part of making games that requires any math, all the more important and other stuff like 3D modeling and such requires zero math knowledge.
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>>337185025
>>Work at a big gaming studio doing 3D models and such.

Oh yeah, 3d models and such.

Is that your official job description, fella? Are there some days where some other people handle the 3D models and you're just in charge of the 'and such'?
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>>337185515
That's because you never learned properly while you were still growing.
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>he fell for the programming meme
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>>337180021
This was me and I managed to graduate! Took me 5 years but I did it. I was fine with the discrete mathematics but they totally neglect to tell you that you are doing like 75% of the coursework as if you majored in Mathematics. (most of my CS buds graduated with degrees in Mathematics as well)
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>>337185505
that sucks anon. I'm the anon you're replying to and I lived in Texas, which is supposed to have a reputation for shitty education or something. Your state must be even worse or your school just didn't give a fuck.
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>>337185461
>you can make music without knowing theory
Which is why there is so much shit music.
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>in 300 level classes at uni
>still get people saying they just want to make video games with their degrees

Do these people seriously never grow up?
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>tfw starting to love math again since I began Accounting
>tfw not sure if I want to do communications or some math related degree now
FUCK
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>Need to know calculus just to code
The fuck man
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>>337185783
>thinking people will actually go in depths describing his job.
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>>337180914
I enjoy logic puzzles but hate stupid theoretical mathematics. fucking fight me.
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>>337185620
just dont be self righteous about being good at / being bad at / thinking you know how to teach math
i don't care whether you learn it or not
but there's an objective good WHENEVER someone says "im bad at this thing, i want to be better" whether it's math, art, music, or anything.
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I love discrete mathematics and symbolic logic. Even if you don't think you're a fan of math try those classes at least.
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>>337184327
toby fox made a GOAT soundtrack for his meme game and the fucker doesn't know music theory
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>>337185790
what meme friend
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>>337184313
>are they trying to make it more confusing for no reason?
Yes
Computer science major at my university required a shitton of math classes, way more than other school as I found out later once I actually got a job. I've never needed to dip into anything beyond Calc I in my career besides that time I made a Turing Machine simulator.
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>>337185842
They closed the school down like last year, and split it up into like 3 smaller ones.
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>>337182225
>>337182995
programming a 2D fighting game requires no math taught past middle school
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>>337185857
>tfw junior in college, CS major
>find programming classes really easy but kind of boring
>don't even know what I want to do with my degree when I graduate and when asked i just say "programming"
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>>337185779
>all the more important and other stuff like 3D modeling and such requires zero math knowledge.

Sufficiently advanced art becomes mathematical as well. 90% of the most famous paintings are composed around the fibonacci sequence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio#Painting
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>>337185865
I only took financial accounting so far and it isn't really a lot of math. Its more so business logic when it comes to credits and debits for a ledger.

Does it get more math intense than fucking ratios and adding and subtracting?
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>>337185853
When the common man can get his hands on the tools of his practiced, trained superiors, that will always become the case for any art or medium.
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I don't want to be a programmer, but I want to work with computers, like IT or some shit.

Should I get an IT degree, or man up and do CS?
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>>337185974
if you compare toby foxes' pixel shit to the artistry of people who made music theory what it is today, you can only see a pile of heaping trash next to some absolutely exquisite ART.
Not some stupid video game background music.
You're blinded by the nostalgia that the music introduces. I used to love it. Came to realize it was c tier when i went back to music i liked.
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>>337186040
Better than me, anon. I just reply "science". I'm going for a bio degree, and originally intended to go to med school, but after 3 years I'm not feeling up to it anymore. I'll get stuck teaching for shit pay or doing research for $30,000 a year if I'm lucky.
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>>337185515
>no matter how much or how little I sleep I never feel rested

I'm ready to die now
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>>337185865
>Accounting

Well, I have bad and good news for you

The bad news is that your job is going to be automated within ~5 years

The good news is you'll probably get basic income when accountants, and their families, throw an everloving shitfest once their jobs get automated.
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