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Don't mind me, just fucking up the lore and suspension of disbelief
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>>337171928
Pre-War Jet already did that.
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>>337171928
>Little lamplight
>now this
Bugthesda is fucking retarded
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>>337171928
>fallout
>lore
oy bey :DDDDDD
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>>337175165
Calm down.
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>>337175239
Ok. I lost my cool, man. I railed a line or two of cocaine and beat my girlfriend last night, maybe I'm just too volatile to be on /v/ right now. I'm gonna go for a walk.
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>>337175225
ever heard of the fallout bible?
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>>337175660
Hasn't mattered since 3
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What's the story behind this?
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>>337173441

FUCKING PRE WAR VERTIBIRDS

VAULT-TEC ACCESS TO FEV
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>>337175165
>>337175558
Thanks for the hearty laugh, anonymous.
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>>337175558
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>>337175558
3edgy5me
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>>337175756
that's the point
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>>337171928
I wanna fuck that Ghoul.
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>>337175885
Kid trapped in a fridge for two centuries. Also, his parents are also ghouls and conveniently live in a house down the street.
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>>337175165
I agree
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>>337176067
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>locked in a fridge for like 250 years
>not totally insane when finally let out
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>>337171928
I don't care because fuck the lore and fuck anybody who cares about it. Lore deserves to be shit upon in all instances just as a giant fuck you to the people who care about that shit because they're all autists who deserve to be punished. I applaud anyone who pisses off a fanbase because people who are "fans" of things are fucking scum bags.
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>Herr derrr, who gives a fuck about lore in wacky wasteland game you nerds

Can't believe faggots that work at Bethesda actually believe this.
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>>337177170
go back to rebbit
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>>337177170
Someone call 911 all this edge made me bleed in every fucking spot.
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>>337177170
Anon I thought you said you were going for a walk
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>>337177321
pretty shocking how they're putting less and less effort into their games.

im not even bothering to buy es6
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>>337177170
>>337175165
I want bethcucks to leave.
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>>337177170
you can at least have tried instead of dropping all the bait mid way
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fallout 4 had an awful story/quests.

Great graphics, gameplay, and environment, but that lazy Bethesda fucking writing/world building.

I hope Obsidian gets another shot, but I think they're too busy with their own shit now.
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>>337177169
>not dead

Ghouls still need to eat
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>>337177653
>Great graphics

It looks like a game from 2010, and that's being generous.
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What's all this about fucking up the lore?
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>>337171928
>MUH LORE
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WHAT LORE NOTHING IS SUPPOSED TO BE CONSISTENT

ITS A FUCKING COMEDY GAME
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>Talking deathclaws

Oh wait, that's 2.
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>>337177713
I thought they mentioned something about ghouls surviving only on radiation in new vegas?
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>>337181227
Glowing Ones
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>>337177170
Hi Pete.

Anyone have the interview with Avelone where he reveals that Bethesda get all their lore from the Wiki because they've never actually played 1 or 2?
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>>337181409
nothing wrong with that
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>>337181473
Except for the fact that due to the Wiki being fanmade it's missing a lot of stuff, hence why Bethesda end up fucking the lore about.
When Interplay had the series, Avellone was writing a bible to store all lore and information on the universe. Because you know, they actually cared to some degree and put in a little effort. Now though, Bethesda have even gone so far as to forbid Avellone from continuing the Fallout bible.
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>>337181906
Avellone doesn't own the series anymore..
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>>337181473
If it wouldn't be permitted as a credible source on a college paper it shouldn't be used as a source for a AAA game.
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>>337182735
Video games aren't real, nerd. Who cares?
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>>337175165
>dedicated over something that matters

Everything is matter, you fucking inbred retard.
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>>337171928
>Bethesda a cuck

All the fallout games made by bethesda are not lore, there shit and dont add anyting of value to the fo universe. They should let obsidian take over all the fo games.
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>>337177170
>lore is too much work
>good gameplay is too much work
>autism is too much work

I feel bad for you, anon.
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>>337177580
>How are you on the list to get to the vault if the guy hasn't handed in the paperwork yet?
Vault-tec had lists of preferred Sanctuary residents for vault 101 project in advance, the "paperwork" was just facade, it's in the game on one of terminals
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Lore isn't even the issue here. It's just an embarrassingly poorly written quest.

>let 200 year old ghoul kid out of fridge
>tells me to take him home to his parents
>tell him his parents are definitely dead
>companion tells me I'm being an ass for telling him that
>slaver comes along, says ghoul kid is "cute" and offers to buy him
>take kid home, miraculously his parents are ghouls and actually still alive and still in their old house
>slaver guy shows up to shoot us because he wants the rotten ghoul kid so badly

What the fuck.
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>>337183494
just like in rl
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>>337177653
>Great graphics, gameplay, and environment,

Don't get carried away now anon
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>>337177713
>Trapped inside a REFRIGERATOR

I don't know about you malnourished favela dwellas, but where I'm from, that's where we keep our food. Dumbass.
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>>337182684

No shit, doesn't change that Bethesda took a huge shit all over the series though.
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>>337183494
ghoul pedos are full of boundless determination
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>>337183589
Just like in one of my animes.
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>>337175558
These are the kinds of people that should be in fallout.
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>>337184031
:o)
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>>337178358
>What is an easter egg
I suppose that Pacman Easter egg in Skyrim means that Pacman exists in the Elder Scrolls Universe too, dunce bucket.
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>>337177061
>down the street

I had to walk across the wasteland to find this kids parents. But yea it didn't make sense. No one heard this kid after 200 years?
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lol u fucking nerds
who cares about lore
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>>337177653
Story was great but quests were pretty lackluster. The only quest that was the toughest was killing Danse.
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>>337177061
are you shitting me?

GHOULS STILL NEED TO EAT BETHESDA
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>>337184031
You have enough food for 200 years that won't spoil? Dude where the hell can I get your fridge?
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>>337177580
>why are there only 2 towns on the map
I'm convinced that poster was mentally retarded
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>>337183494
oh my god, this is terrible.

They need, NEED to get new blood in the studio. That's like something a 13 year old would write as fanfiction. They have a world full of crazy bullshit and they still manage to write things that ruin suspension of disbelief. Jesus fuck.
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>>337185318
I wouldn't be surprise if there's some "all Pixar movies are connected" tier fan theory about that.
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>>337177580
>It's like I'm walking through a theme-park where the only theme is that nothing has a cohesive theme.
What did he mean by this?
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>>337185980
I've always explained it to myself this way:
It's food so injected with food preservatives, that it's more food preservatives and synthetic chemicals then actual food. And they were also irradiated before being sold to last even longer.
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>>337187197
You shouldn't have to headcanon away questions that you would obviously have of the game.
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>>337186037
That's nothing. Let me tell you about ANCIENT ALIENS.

>meet ghoul mercenary who offers me work, but I have to go meet his boss first
>his boss is a scientist who lives in a perfect house that looks like it was totally untouched by nukes or age
>sends me to get back some vials of mysterious serum that were stolen from his abandoned asylum warehouse by raiders
>bring it back, then have to go track down his slutty sister who ran off with some guy
>find sister and come back to find the asylum is under attack and we go there to help ghoul merc guy
>scientist guy and his family are immortal and have been alive since the 1900s because of that serum which is produced by his father, who is possessed and mutated by an ancient alien artifact, and is locked in the basement of the asylum
>father is a crazy villain who wants to take over the world with his alien powers and you can choose to kill him or let him out

Someone at Bethesda really likes Lovecraft shit, but doesn't know a damn thing about Fallout.
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>>337187265
Or maybe you're supposed to use your imagination for some things.
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>>337187473
>>337183494

The lesson here is never buy Bethesda games.
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I have like ten hours played on this game and I'm already bored.

What do
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>>337187534
imagination is useless when the creators are painting by the numbers. You end up making excuses for them
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>>337187652
>The lesson here is never buy new Bethesda games
FTFY. Older Bethesda games are okay and get better the farther back they were released.
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>>337187534
No I use my imagination when I see a skeleton with a bottle in his hand holding a teddy bear. I use my imagination when I think of the backstory to my rpg character. I don't use my imagination when something that was never mentioned makes no sense.
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>>337187770
Purge the synth scum and destroy all muties. Basically go brotherhood and kill fucking everyone like the space marine you are inside. Brotherhood is the only questline that feels any sort of decently written(and thats giving it credit)
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>>337187770
Play New Vegas.
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>>337186037
Todd spent the budget on hookers and blow, i wouldn't be surprised if he did hire 13 year olds to write Fallout 4's script
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>>337186037
Isn't Avellone freelance now? Fuck Beth, fire Emil and hire him. I'd take Avellone's moody emo bullshit over Emil injecting the same tired "find ur family" plotline into every game he writes.
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>>337188314
Avellone would be wasted on Bethesda garbage.

I was sort of hoping he'd start working on designing his own games rather than just being a hired gun writer, but who knows.
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>>337175165
>cancerous piece of shit waste of space you are
Are you talking about yourself there anon?
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Why don't you guys like my game, we made significant improvements on all fronts. Who cares about lore when you have crafting right! Thats way more fun then that "New Vegas" thing(biggest mistake letting obsidian make that) Are you saying you didn't have fun with the new power armor? You didn't enjoy the huge amounts of quests? I mean we gave you so many factions to choose from! All of them were well written and interesting! Anyway what was your favorite faction? Mines the minutemen that preston garvey is such a fun companion. But not as much as dog meat he is market-I mean adorable! Anyway you guys should get to buying the season pass, you want to get this dlc I assure you!
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>>337183494
>be slave trade
>see some fag on the road with a cute shota ghoul
>fucking jackpot
>ask to buy the kid
>he doens't want to
>fucking moralfags don't let me fuck this 200 year old kid
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>kid stuck in a fridge for 210 years
>still alive
>still sane
Uhhh, ok.

>Me: your parents are probably dead
>Nick: wow you're literally Hitler
Really?

>His parents just happen to be alive and are also ghouls
Fucking hell Bethesda.
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>>337189012
just don't think about it. Also companions are still crap and useless. Danse is the only one good for combat and I put a shotgun shell in the dirty synth scum.
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>>337171928
>>337173441
>>337176067

lol it's just a game nerds
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>>337189472
He could have atleast been less of a dick about it.
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>>337189472
Pete Hines is a real piece of shit. Hell, mods, despite now being legal on consoles, are considered to be hacks by this hack
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>>337175165
Nothing matters, retard
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>>337189472
I was waiting on this
TY
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>>337183494
The two most important perks to have in F4 is charisma and strength. I helped the kid find his parents but after the reunion slaver guy shows up to the house and I use my charisma to tell them they left. Family and kid are safe.

The Silver Shroud was another fucked up quest.
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>>337171928
Why do people keep bitching about this when in fallout two you had radscorpions playing chess and a fucking talking ghost.
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>>337188776
Well I mean you can give the kid to him, but thats not what I did. I mean I thought the slaver had good high level armor that I needed so i killed him and took it to wear for myself. Now you've got me thinking what would happen if I gave over the kid. God only knows.
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>>337190316
because that was cool and interesting this is just fucking stupid.
>>337190194
I liked the Silver Shroud quest desu.
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>>337190316
fallout 2 is considered the most ridiculous of the series. Its pretty much wild wasteland always being on.
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You sold him to the slaver right? It's literally one of the 2 times you can actually be evil in this game.
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>>337190476
I agree the quest was fucking stupid but you CAN'T complain saying it's "not realistic" when there was a past quest involving a fucking ghost. Also the whispering you hear at goodsprings graveyard at night.
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>>337190512
I fucking hated the random npcs spouting random pop culture references
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>tfw I played 300 hours of Fallout 4 in the first few months it was out
I don't even fucking know how. Fallout 4 is like a tall glass of lukewarm water.
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>>337190659
The only one I found good was the bridge of death so I agree, although it wasn't as much as some people say.
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>>337190739
Where's your face?
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>>337190858
weak
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>>337190643
Ghost is inherently magical though, while the ghoul kid is just poorly thought out.

Ghost is better compared to the Dunwich stuff or the Alien hat,
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>>337190937
Have this one ;)
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>>337191102
I kind of liked the dunwich stuff until they pulled that shit again in 4 for no reason.
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>>337190643

There's a difference between realism and internal consistency. Fallout 1 never said ghosts do/don't exist in that universe. So, whatever... ghost quest can exist (despite being retarded). It's consistent.

Ghouls are shown in every single game as just being long-lived, horribly burned humans. They need to eat, breathe, drink and sleep. The kid being alive in the fridge doesn't make sense based on established rules of the universe.

/v/ gets really buttmad about it. Waaay more buttmad than needed, but it's not for no reason.
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>>337190194
>>337190476
Silver Shroud is probably the only really good part of the game.
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>>337190739

Jimminy cricket. I'm trying to work my way through it because I love Fallout, but I've barely hit 20 hours, and I'm pretty sure most of that was when I passed out and left the game running.
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I hope Fallout 4 bombed and had shit sales.
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>>337185805
He was in a fridge you dolt.
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>>337187473
I was really looking forward to that quest but that sounds like utter shit. Can't wait till modded quests come out.
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>>337191579
With enough food for 200 years? And he didn't suffocate?
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>>337191579
Yeah because I'm sure you've got 210 years worth of food in your fridge.
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I'm gonna remove this fucking quest from the game or at least alter it when the editor is out.

>his parents are changed to ferals
>there is a skeleton in the fridge
>no reward or anything, because this is a shitty quest that never should have existed
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>>337187473
I actually liked that quest...it's nice to see more sci-fi/ supernatural things in the fallout universe. Wish it was more consistant though and explains more things
>*Dlc jewing intensifies*
Wonder what fuckhead Howard plans after Far harbor is shat out.
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How is FO4 with survival mode and loaded with mods. It is worth a play through?
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>>337189648

Definitely, he is the head of public relations. That means Bethesda as a whole has his opinion.
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>>337191951
It just felt so out of place to me. It's not even a terrible story, it just didn't belong in the Fallout setting.

On a better note, the Automatron quest was actually pretty good. All the shit with the Robobrains was probably the most Fallout-y thing in Fallout 4.
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>>337192387
I would have apologized for the lore inconsistency and just say that they are too busy to patch it out until maybe later, even if its a bullshit lie its way more polite.
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>>337171928
I don't play Fallout
Can somebody explain to me what's wrong with this?
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>>337171928
Fallout 4 would not have been any better without that quest. It would still be shallow garbage
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>>337192618
Automotron had a pretty nice dungeon but the mechanist itself was fucking cringe.
>Thinking you'd meat an actual delusional hero thats killing people to save them
>Instead it's some socially akward autist that had no idea this shit was happening
Blew the bitches head off for wasting my time and being so god damn pathetic.
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>>337192809

>>337183494
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>>337175558
> attention seeking this desperate
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I want them to patch in a time travel random encounter where you just leave an inhaler of Jet somewhere.
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GIVE OBSIDIAN THE RIGHTS
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>>337190476
Me too. I meant fucked up as in pretty dark. I hated the guy when I first met him but after that quest you really learn to love his spirit.
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>>337193357

That would be a perfect Easter egg in an Obsidian followup.
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>>337175165
>Maybe if you spent as much time being dedicated and driven over something that actually mattered instead of bitching about a video game people would actually find you an appealing person instead of the cancerous piece of shit waste of space

tell me something I don't know
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>obsidian will never develop a game that makes much $$$
>obsidian will never buy the fallout rights
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>>337192840
This, fallout 4 is one of the worst rpg's Bethesda have ever made, easily the worst mainline fallout game.
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>>337190512
Don't forget Brotherhood of Steel.
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>>337191579
I laughed.
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>>337190739
I've only put in 70-75 hours into it. Mods is the only reason I'm coming back to this game.
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>>337193680
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>>337193771
Why is this here?
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>>337191225
Never went in there because I know how scary that shit is. I think what's most unsettling is it was out in the middle of nowhere only guarded by two bots.
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>>337194060
Anon thought he found the new memetastic bethesda shitting screen cap.
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>>337191818
I'd rather an alternative.

>Kid stuck in fridge

>As you open up the fridge a guy that looks like Todd shows up and does the dubs pose.

>Hey buy my game

>only choice is to buy his game

>cost 400 caps.

>you get his game and a 40% size Todd who repeats "nothing's better then making $40 an hour."

>kid is dead.
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>>337194571

Fucking perfect.
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>>337191818
>hear kid screaming to get out
>open the fridge
>it's empty
>Wild Wasteland sound effect from NV plays
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>>337187831
No they're really not, you're just wearing your rose-tinted glasses. Every game bethesda has made is complete trash.
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>>337193076
Did you save a fucking thumbnail? Jesus Christ stop imitating what you saw on r/4chan.
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>>337191758
the people in fallout 3 did
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>>337171928
Why do ghouls in this game have perfectly normal eyes
I swear ghouls become more human looking with each game
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>>337197929
Because Ghouls are People Too™, silly necrophobic wastelander.
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>>337183494
>Fallout 4 quest
>ends in pointless fighting because WOW CHECK OUT OR NEW SHOOTING SYSTEM
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>>337198246
>this comic got deleted for racism on reddit

kek
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>>337177170
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So is Obsidian going to make a New Vegas esque game for Fallout 4?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A34poZ6paGs
This video pretty accurately describes Fallout 4
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>>337190643
Ghost quest?
What?
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>>337200365
the NV team is split atm I heard
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>>337183494
Describe more fallout quests like this.
>find some retard yelling at the townspeople who just saved me and gave me free shit
>can't just shoot the retard or I fail the quest and everyone hates me for literally no reason
>instead I need to gather 5 useless retards to show off our fancy new skillchecks before the big battle
>big battle happens
>I kill him and his 4 fucking henchman in vats in 30 seconds.
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>>337200365
No. Bethesda has formed new studios since then, so they don't need Obsidian if they want a new Fallout shit out quickly.
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>>337198246
The worst part is that the results of the Tenpenny Tower quest isn't even the most infuriating part of that game.
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>>337200834
>bring a letter to some town full of schmucks for some blond chick
>they're been attacked by raiders, only person willing to defend is some 90 year old cocksucker
>bring the letter to the house in question
>everyone inside is dead, completely drained of blood
>apparently the kid was kidnapped
>go find the raiders
>don't shoot me on sight
>they're all vampires, but not really
>the kid killed and drained his parents dry pretty big humanity hit there desu
>just reflecting on what he did
>can't kill kid for murdering parents or I fail quest and town becomes hostile
>can't kill raiders without failing quest and town becoming hostile
>have to work out some kind of blood exchange for protection, literally blood money protection racket for a bunch of insane cannibals
>end up killing everyone anyway
I don't think there's a way you can describe that quest and not make it sound completely retarded
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>>337187770
Just drop it

I was excited for it and kept playing

It doesn't get better

Play something else
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>>337171928
Nobody plays Fallout for the story
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>>337187770

I played the game like a month after it came out, got about 20 hours in it before I got out of my mind. I have to admit it was good fun for most of it tho, mostly because of bugs and strange interactions, that's where the game shines.
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>>337201657
i do
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>>337189472
The worst thing is that he tries to defend it at first so the whole "its just a game" isn't even his sincere thoughts, its just a fucktard trying to cover himself for looking dumb.
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>>337186017
Settlements don't count, DC and Good Neighbor are the only towns in the sense you get quests and do quests there. Lexington, Concord, the rest of Boston and the places to the far south, and west have like no friendly NPCs and just are full of enemies
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>>337197929
Bethesda is inordinately lazy/cheap and does not want to put in the time to make actual ghoul models, so they'll always just be altered human models.
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>>337201772
liar
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>>337191818
Even in new vegas I feel like 70% of the mods are fixing small dev oversights like these (though obsidian didn't drop the ball this bad in NV but they were definitely less careful with the details than most people on here like to act).
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>>337201657
i do
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>>337202195
liar
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>>337193357
If I remember right wasn't the time travel in 2 that you go back and cause the events of 1? Because that was cool as shit.
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>>337201121
That's the one on the bridge in 3 right? In general a pretty big problem with 3 is not having people react properly to killings. I mean they had such an unadaptive quest line that about half the characters are essential and unkillable. New vegas only had one and they still bothered to write in a reason why.
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>>337202507
The quest essential thing is so obnoxious, as are psychic NPCs. Bethesda has never fixed this
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>>337184031
Enough food for 200 years.Gee you're a smart cookie arent you?
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>>337177580
I think the bitggest issue really is that there's no real way to talk to fuckign anyone, just very predetermined people. I love FNV because I never have to use tha tgames shit combat, I can just talk my way out of every encounter. I was so disappointed because I couldnt talk to fucking anyone, when I saw that raider racetrack, I holstered my weapon so that I could go talk, maybe bet, but nope they attacked instantly. So i reloaded an older save, and tried again fromt he main gate and it doesn't make a difference. Fuckin garbage game.
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>>337202692
Did you think you'd look any smarter replying to a joke like it wasn't one?
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>>337202507
There's also the ED-E in Lonesome Road
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>>337203110
Lonesome road is hard to judge like the rest of the game. With each dlc they were apparently trying to bring about parts of the game that weren't really seen or used in the main game. I remember something about the limbs system and stealth for dead money, honest hearts was exploration and crafting, old world blues was definitely science and intelligence and I think that they basically wanted lonesome road to make use of the fps mechanics that not a lot of people used much in the main game. Hence the weird singular path and lots of fighting.
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>>337187473

I am still mad that you cant take the artifact of immortality and unlimited power for yourself, nice roleplay options bethesta.

Of couse allowing you to use the artifact would mean coding a new energy attack and gameplay style, and we cant possible have bethesta making any effort to make the game fun can we?
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>>337175165
this desu senpai
Best active post on 4chan
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>>337177061
>Kid trapped in a fridge for two centuries
Hello darkness my old friend.
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>>337204023
What's Harland got to do with anything
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>>337204023
Hes only been in the basement since the nightkin showed up which isn't very long and he will straight up explain how he lived off radroaches and condensation from the pipes. If anything this makes bethesda look even lazier considering that obsidian had considered the exact same problem.
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>>337197203
>admitting you know r/4chan thumbnails

Stupid shitter
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>>337171928
That already happened with talking Deathclaws and Stoneheads and 3 Monthy Python and 2 Star Trek references in Fallout 2.
At least the Bethtards try to make their games more like Mad Max and less like pop references & memes.
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>>337204023
>How do you live down here?
>Detailed explanation on where he gets water and what he eats for food.
Wow totally the same you are right.
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>>337187770
It gets better.
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>>337205195
When
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>>337177653

>Great graphics and gameplay

I take it you exclusively play crafting survival games?
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>>337204220
>>337204297
>>337205110
You guys misunderstood me. The reason why I remembered Harland is because his whole story contradicts to bethesda shit writing. Thus why I used "hello darkness" to describe my feelings.
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>>337202762
Yeah you can't talk through the battle of Hoover Dam but you can convince the most ruthless monster in the Mojave to back off with 100 speech. The same man who used to ambush Legion posts by himself and tried to kill his own tribe because they surrendered who in turn ripped his face off and swore his life to Caesar, knowing that failure in this mission would mean his own death.
A person who can motivate a battalion of armed and drilled bloodcrazy raiders just by standing behind them as they knew he would kill them himself if they fell back.
But you can talk him out of that.
A Lvl 2 Boomer would try to kill you with a switchblade or rusty repeater even if you're a walking god but you can talk to Lanius.
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>>337205672
VERY poor idiom use, I'm docking you a whole letter grade until I start to see improvement.
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>>337201908
What the fuck is bunker Hill then
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>>337205423
Name 3 games not from Crytek with better graphics released in 2015 and before.
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>>337205896
undertale, minecraft, jackie chan
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>>337177580
The game is is still fun though and I didn't pay for it. Isn't that what matters?it's a good time
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>>337205896
Dying Light
Metro 2033, Last Light
Witcher 2,3
Bloodborne
Jackie Chan
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>>337206116
>the game is still fun
The little bit of fun I squeezed out of it was not worth the time investment.
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>>337175225
http://fallout.czech-games.net/downloady/fallout_bible_gog.pdf

Enjoy newfriend
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>>337206160
>Bloodborne
>Witcher 2
I meant on Ultra and not on low
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>>337206398
Bloodborne
Witcher 2
I played it on ultra, it is not a pretty game.
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>>337177580
The biggest of those points is why they bothered putting it on the east coast if they didn't want to invent any new lore or content.
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>>337206261
Too bad for you, I have over 40 hours and still want to keep playing.

The combat is fun and really challenging, and it's fun to immerse yourself and roleplay .
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>>337189472
Shit like that never cease to amuse me.
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WHY DOES THIS GAME RUN LIKE SUCH ASS?
I'M ON THE LOWEST POSSIBLE SETTINGS AND STILL GET MASSIVE FRAME RATE DROPS SOMETIMES.
AND HOLY FUCK THESE LOADING TIMES.
WHAT IS THIS

I can run way better looking games at their max settings with no problems
What the FUCK is this engine Bethesda
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>>337177061
They wrote it off as writers trying to have fun too.
Assholes
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>>337206638
I'm curious about this too. Something to do with the interactivity with physics? The Witch 3 runs like a dream and it's much bigger.
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>>337206638
Creation Engine is what happens when you take a bad engine like Gamebryo and then butcher it to keep it going well beyond its sell by date out of laziness and stinginess
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>>337206491
>fun and challenging
Bog standard shooter with subpar mechanics and bullet sponge enemies.
>immerse yourself and roleplay
Literally impossible in this game. You have ONE story. Unless you want to play as "Man Dudeguy, averagest joe"
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>>337189472
it's not realism it's consistency.
What a colossal twat, no passion for his craft.
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>>337202275
Yes, Guardian of Forever. I would like you to compare and contrast the image included with this wikipedia page to the image in the post being commented on.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_of_Forever
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>>337183248
then why was the paperwork even in the game

why are we presented with this choice when there's clearly no choice
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I'm surprised Bethesda didn't shove the tree ghoul in here again
>tfw killed the entire Institute and didn't realize shaun was the old guy until I checked v
I'm not sure I want to play another game on this engine, not even if obsidian does it
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>>337206889
You sound like an uncreative fuck then m8 .
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>>337171928
Oh it's nothing. Everything was beyond fucked up already.
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>>337206443
Stop meme'ing my friend, there's a difference between artstyle and graphics and from what I can see, Bloodborne has a pretty narrow level design and still struggles on its locked 30fps.
I'm not moving any goalposts when I also say graphics is also about the performance which is simply lacking.
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>>337190194
>Not having low charisma and just quick save/loading
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>>337207138
Well okay then goddamn Team Fortress 2 at 120 fps must be the game of the year then huh? You don't get to make up for subpar graphics with "Well but at least it stays 30 fps fairly consistently" not to mention the godawful FPS dependent physics calculations.
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So how long until we get good mods.

So far the shit on bethesdas tool page looks shit and while well modeled still horribly animated.
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>>337206995
Sorry I don't get your compare and contrast bit?
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>>337207019
Harold still bothers me because I can't think of a situation where an ambulatory creature could stay still long enough for a tree to take root in the ground. Unless he was unconscious for a whole damn month I don't see it happening.
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Wait, what is this about Fallout 4? Are Obsidian actually working on it now? I need something to wash the awful shit taste of Fallout Boston out of my mouth.
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>>337207247
Fallout 4 isn't subpar though.
30fps is.
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>>337171928
What if Avellone did this?
>kid trapped for 300 years
>absolutely insane
>shout about mom, war and voices in head
>immediately kills himself
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>>337207751
Fallout 4 is definitely subpar for this generation's offerings. It looks like a lastgen game.
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>>337207814
More like
>kid trapped for 300 years
>dies of dehydraton after three days
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>>337203862
>Bethesda literally thought the Wild Wasteland crashed Alien Ship is canon
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>>337207814
/v/ would suck his dick as usual.
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>>337181409
>they've never actually played 1 or 2?
No one actually played 1 or 2.
These games are 20 years old and probably was M rated, so gamers should be 40+ today, I doubt any person would play games at that age.
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>>337195324
6spooky9me
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>>337208216
I really liked 3 and vegas so I gave 1 an honest try and got to the second act with the supermutants and got bored and stop. A few years later I tried 2 and liked it enough to beat it though I didn't have any other games at the time so I feel that helped.
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>>337207954
ghouls are biologically immortal and if he had the ghoulification gene, the fridge shouldn't have protected him enough to stop him from turning.

what should have happened is he's alive, insane, and his body is warped from being trapped in a container for years
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>>337208216
I'm 23 and I played them both before F3 was ever announced.
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>>337189472
>why u care so much about videogames you nerd lmao get a life
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>>337208502
Ghouls still need to eat and drink you know.
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The only thing Bethesda is good at is world building.

They are shit at writing
They are shit at programming
They are shit at balancing
They are shit at pretty much every single significant element there is into making a good game, but they make worlds that are fun to fuck around in. Too bad that gets boring after about 4 hours with absolutely nothing meaningful going on behind it.

If anything, I hate them more for this than if they were just shit at everything; if they just gave half a shit about what they were doing they could make something amazing, but they never fucking do.
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>>337208216
>probably was M rated
This has never, ever mattered
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>>337195324
"The last man on earth hears a knock at the door"
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>>337195324
But who was phone?
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>>337171928
FO NV
>lone vault guy goes insane with puppets
FO4
>kid magically fine and goes to parents to live happily ever after

WACKY 50S WORLD
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>>337208805
>But who was phone?

>But who was ham radio?
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>>337175558
>today on 12 year old edglords.
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>>337201121
Oh, you forgot the best part!
>Work out blood money racket, quest passed and everyone's happy
>The hired not-vampire muscle mysteriously dies while I'm away
>Entire town and cannibal raiders become hostile and killing any of them is considered "evil"
I'm sure they'll patch it out eventually. It's only been out for 7½ years.
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>>337208635
no they don't

you encounter many ghouls without access to food or water that are alive. what they should be is in a low activity state of energy conservation.
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>>337209006
Name one ghoul you find with no access to food or water. Even NV confirmed they needed to eat and drink.
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>>337205732
>But you can talk him out of that.
You can't talk him out, you just can blame his supporters so he goes back to revenge and then Legion just wither without Caesar.
It's not like 'hurr you abominuton of science and must die even tho u cant die'.
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>>337209068
The ghouls in the train tunnel leading to boomer territory

>confirmed
You mean the nightkin basement guy?
Yeah, ghouls need food and water to stay in top shape, but if they don't get that, they'll become emaciated and weak unless grossly irradiated (reavers/high level ghouls).
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>>337187473
>He's mutated
>Expect an abomination
>Get to Lorenzo
>He's just an old man with a dumb crown on
That along with the dumb new vegas reference he drops ruined that quest for me
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>>337181349
holy shit, life imitates fallout
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>>337209245
He backs off and that's what matters.
He fails his skirmish and Caesar should have him killed for that.
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>>337209292
>train tunnel
Rats for food and those pools of water that were literally everywhere.
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>>337207090

You sound like you have autism
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>>337186546
My current theory is that Fallout and Dark Souls are the same universe, millennia apart. The flame is corrupted by man's arrogance, being used for cheap atomic energy, and now it's poisoned the world. Ghouls are hollowing, deathclaws were an attempt at dragonbros, etc.

Oh, and I also think that George Shrinks takes place pre-war.
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>>337209598
In most every case where you are fighting the legion, caesar is dead or dying.
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