How would you, the Anonymous, go about balancing the characters in the game? These are a few of my thoughts based on my experiences
Bastion:
+Increase his heal rate from 50HP per second to 75HP
+Increase his configuration speed
-Reduce his range while in sentry mode
I think Bastion is a very overrated hero. Not bad, by any means, but once players start getting good, he can't contently sit in one spot and camp the entire time. Increasing his configuration speed and healrate reduces his reliance on heroes like Mercy and Reinhardt while reducing his range makes it so he can't play both mid range and long range.
D.Va
+Increase damage output slightly
+Allow her to shoot through her energy matrix
+Speed while shooting increased to match her normal speed
D.va has a couple things going for her, but it's kind of unfortunate that she has to get right up in people's faces to do relevant damage. Her energy matrix only shields for a few seconds and immediately cancels when you start shooting and then goes back on cooldown whereas Reinhardt gets a 2000HP shield that can stand up forever and he can alternate between attacking and shielding on the fly. D.va's peashooter is also fairly weak at anything before the midrange so increasing her mobility while shooting and giving her the option to attack through her shield makes her a more viable threat. She's probably one of the weaker heroes in the game, but certainly not useless.
Genji:
No changes
Hanzo:
-Damage reduced on ultimate
Hanzo's ultimate covers a massive area, lasts forever, and does ridiculous amounts of damage. Let it do less so then Hanzo, who's presumably far away because he's a sniper can then pick off weakened opponents or allow his teammates to do so.
Junkrat:
No changes
Lucio:
No changes
McCree:
-Reduce the range on his revolver
Blizzard has expressed concern that McCree is too good because he can be played as a mid-range skirmisher or a long-range sniper and they don't want him to be both. (Continued)
>>337167827
McCree can also kill someone in CC pretty easily as well. Not sure he needs a nerf since you'll always lose to a dedicated sniper anyway.
>>337167827
>Blizzard has expressed concern that McCree is too good because he can be played as a mid-range skirmisher or a long-range sniper and they don't want him to be both. (Continued)
That was ages ago, his long range damage has been nerfed for a long time
>No weapon pickups
>No dodging
>No gamemodes like CTF/LMS/DM
>No power-ups
>Ultimate abilities
>Abilities on timers
>etc.
reduce that yellow flash on pharah, holy shit
Replace all your range reductions with wider bullet sprays
The reason Bastion is so deadly is how accurate he can shoot from far away. All you gotta do is make the spray wider the further the bullets go.
I'd probably change Torbjorn's turret to have some startup time between when it detects an enemy and when it starts shooting them, about the same as Engi turret in TF2. As it is the damn thing can hit you with perfect accuracy from a mile away the literal instant you get in it's vision.
>>337167827
Mei:
+Increased movement speed on frozen ground
+Ground now freezes for longer periods of time
Gives Mei a bit more mobility, as her biggest problem now is the length of time it takes for her to get back to the skirmish after she dies
Mercy:
No changes
Pharah:
No changes
Reaper:
+Movement speed increased
+Teleport animation shortened
Reaper I think has a lot of potential and he has two very unique movement options but lacks the movement speed to really utilize them and has to pick his battles very carefully, because teleporting right now gives the enemy all the time in the world to react.
Reinhardt:
No changes
Roadhog:
-600 HP > 500 HP
Roadhog already has a massive HP bar and self-healing, so I think his longevity needs to be toned down. Makes up for his lack of movement options by plucking opposing fighters anyway.
Soldier: 76
-Reduce damage output
Solider: 76 has every tool he needs to succeed; an option to increase his movement speed, healing for himself and his teammates, fast and strong attacks. Reducing his output I don't think will make him any less viable but his mere presence on any team makes the team better, and that I think is a problem.
Symmetra:
+Teleporter HP buffed
+Less travel time on her charged shots
Symmetra is a pretty underwhelming support character but give her a bit more speed and more longevity on her ultimate and she fulfills her support role a lot better.
Torbjorn:
+Increased damage output on turrets
-Reduced HP on turrets
Right now the turrets last about as long as your average 150 HP hero and can take a lot of punishment. Trading HP for damage I think is fair because it rewards the Torbjorn for placing them well and punishes him for doing it poorly
Tracer:
-Increased cooldown on rewind
Tracer already has high movement speed and several escape options, rewind is both an escape option and healing rolled into one. Tracer won't be nonviable with a change like this but it makes the character a bit fairer.
(cont)
>>337168895
>buffing Mei
ayyy lmao
>>337168946
Not buffing one of the weakest characters
>>337167827
Did Blizz not get enough feedback or something?
>>337167827
I'd make no changes. No character in casual play particularly underwhelming and anyone trying to play Overwatch competitively deserves a meta as shitty as the current one.
>>337169108
>Mei
>weak
AYYYY LMAO
She's a better Tank than most of the Tanks and has more survivaility than Roadhog or Reaper
>>337169108
>using competative play meta as a argument
The same place where they use aimbots? literally no one whould care what some stupid pro is using
>>337168895
>nerf tracer
eat shit
>>337169405
Zenyatta is fine, he just requires precise aim so the kind of shitter that would normally play a healer can't handle him.
Symmetra does crazy damage in close range, can melt Reinhardt's shields and anyone behind them, and brings team-wide shields and teleporter. She's fine, just boring to play.
>>337169635
this. Every character is equally good.
>>337169289
You're right about that, but as long as she looks bad on paper she'll remain unchanged, or get buffs either I'm fine with.
>>337167827
Hanzo needs more drop on his arrows and some level of spread at long range. Increased pull time,right now he uses less time than widowmakers rifle to go full draw
>>337169635
Zeny needs a bit more health so he can't get one hit with a body shot.
>>337167827
I think the maps need changes more than anything. I keep seeing that stupid tip to use alternate routes against Bastion and Tobjorn but there are a lot of maps that have one single path to the objective. Especially like Hanamura where there's exactly 3 entrances to the first area, 2 are only accessible by 5 characters, and all of them are areas where turrets can shoot you, but you can't even see where they are without Widowmaker on your attack squad.
>>337169635
>Zenyatta is fine
Nah. If a character is going to have the lowest health they need to justify that somewhere. And Zenyatta really can't justify it. Where as someone like Tracer can
>>337170191
the only thing zen needs is a health buff to 200-225 range, his core character is fine
>>337170191
I think it is justifiable. Zenyatta has two absurdly strong abilities in his orb of discord and his ultimate. Plus his weapon is actually really good for a support character. Him dying in one shot to Widowmaker makes it so he cant just dick around behind his team shredding the enemy front line without exposing himself.
>>337170674
Except he has to expose himself for his abilities to do anything
>>337167827
>McCree:
>-Reduce the range on his revolver
What? Why, his problem isn't how far he can shoot. His problem is the absurd 100-0
>Hanzo:
-Damage reduced on ultimate
>Hanzo's ultimate covers a massive area, lasts forever, and does ridiculous amounts of damage. Let it do less so then Hanzo, who's presumably far away because he's a sniper can then pick off weakened opponents or allow his teammates to do so.
Stop, his ult is already easy as fuck to dodge.
>>337170823
I had forgot about the LoS stuff actually, good call.
>>337167827
Genji needs his ult swing speed and or movement to be faster.
It's to be used for flanking and people in positions to be flanked usually have full health and it's 2 swings. You'll usually be killed after you kill like 1 person or sometimes no one at all. Not to mention he screams Japanese before swinging so the enemy will be alerted and will be looking for you.
>>337167827
everything you've said about d.va really, especially the damage output. i find it odd that i have to employ hit and run tactics on a character described as a freakin' tank.
maybe make her run speed out of her meka a bit faster because she still seems to have trouble escaping from the self destruct blast radius
>>337170891
That's kind of this thing though, as soon as he blows stun, and fan he's usually gotta back off.
Blizz wants him to be a close range glass cannon, so nerfing his range would be the best way without making him useless.
>>337171150
>i find it odd that i have to employ hit and run tactics on a character described as a freakin' tank.
On that note, what the FUCK is Winston supposed to be good for? You have to play him like fucking Tracer because he dies too quickly, his gun is near useless, his jump-slam is only good for escaping, and his barrier doesn't last nearly long enough.
>>337168895
>buffing mei
>one of the most no-skill heros in the game
kill yourself nigger
>buffing turret damage
double kill yourself nigger
>>337167827
Bastion definitely needs no buffs. He has a specific purpose and does it. He isn't a character you main.
Also, he can heal with no cooldown and without having to be out of Sentry to do it. Definitely doesn't need to heal.
>>337171295
except they already HAVE nerfed his range
>>337171562
I have had an insane amount of success with Winston, you just have to pick your fights super carefully. Widowmaker and Genji are your bitches, jump on them with impunity and run them down. You can severely mess with healers if you co-ordinate with your team just a little bit so they concentrate fire while you're monkeying about. Tracer and Genji are prime bullying candidates too.
Just know your limits and don't pick fights you can't win. Try not to engage more than 2 characters unless your ult is up and backup is on the way.
Genji needs some sort of change. He's probably the hardest character in the game but in terms of what he can actually do for your team (flanking, getting picks and harassing) he's just a worse Tracer. Yeah, I guess you can score some gimmick kills on retarded Bastions with reflect and take alternate routes with your climb, but when Tracer can just blink through danger points and chokes the latter doesn't count for much.
>>337167827
I love D.Va!
I'm also a pretty bad player and don't feel justified in making balance calls, but I'd go something like:
D.Va
+Damage slightly
+Cooldown midrange altfire
+Either enable Defense Matrix to block EVERYTHING or reduce the cooldown. Right now it's nice for blocking some ults and charging Bastions, but is otherwise a bit too short to get much down with it.
McCree
+Damage falloff on his shots
Mei
remove
Reaper
+Teleport speed faster
Reinhardt
+Make the fireball do a bit more damage/slightly faster
>>337172116
Forgot to include my sad stats
>>337167827
McCree:
-Lower AoE on flashbang
+/-Ultimate should be based on current hp % than fixed amount. Also, failed ults shouldn't refund ultimate meter.
Mei:
-Multiple sources of freeze shouldn't hasten the frozen effect thus effectively keeping a tank perma cc'd when an additional Mei is introduced.
Lucio:
-Reduce self heal.
+Increase passive movement speed aura (when unamped).
Symmetra:
-Shouldn't be played for the sake of her teleporter.
+Her E ability should be replaced by an active healing ability if she is to be considered a supportive hero
+Turrets are fine; could use a farther deployment range possibly.
D.va:
+Lower spread on primary attack
Widowmaker:
-Most game breaking ultimate in my opinion
Bastion:
-Damage fall off should be increased
Dwarf:
-Same with Bastion
Zenyatta:
+Dies to a single body shot from Widowmaker (exactly 150 damage); also has some of the slowest movement speed in the game. Seek improvements.
Reaper:
+/-Teleportation should be team identifiable by changing the color of his smoke.
Roadhog:
-Pretty insane burst with high survivability for a hero; seek a minor damage nerf
Monkey:
?-Fine, but somehow tremendously OP when two are introduced.
>Widowmaker
Increase the time it takes to get full charge.
Unscope on full charge shot.
Reduce unscoped shots to 10 a hit, 8 shots/sec and give them falloff.
175 health.
>Junkrat
Make explosive jumping not have insanely retarded amounts of air drag.
Make Ult deploy like half a second faster.
More consistent det time for rollers
>D.Va
Increase her movement speed while firing in mech (25% to 40%)
Tighten the cone of fire slightly.
Increase damage per shot at close range but have the falloff damage remain the same at long.
Give her SOMETHING when outside the mech.
>McCree
Allow some sort of movement while stunned instead of being completely immobile a la Scout Update Sandman.
Limit number of lockon targets for Ult.
>Winston
Melee damage during Ult increased to 50 a hit.
>Mei
LMB takes longer to freeze but does a slight bit more damage.
Shift heals a bit more health.
>Genji
Make his reflect timing not be braindead by shorten duration (0.8 seconds) but decreased cooldown (6 sec).
>Bastion
Sentry has bullet spread
Zenyatta
+give him more health
Symmetra
Make support character and remove her shield power
+make her ultimate her 2nd power
+ultimate is polygon armor that gives her 500 shields for 5 seconds or pretty muich any other ultimate
>>337171971
I think the main difference between Tracer and Genji is that when you drive off Tracer she has to play super careful for the next 10 seconds. Whereas Genji, provided the guy playing him knows what he's doing, can abuse the fuck out of the map and constantly hound you from annoying angles. Genji rewards map knowledge and situational awareness more than any other character I think.
Widowmaker:
+Must be real and have sex with me
-None
What do you get for getting the origins edition other than skins?I'm debating buying the PC version from disc, which is origins only
>>337167827
D.va needs a right click attack on her mech. I'm fine with her shotgun cannons, and she is still decent as is, but it's disappointing seeing an entire mech character with only one (1) option of attackingcharging doesn't count.
Just add a medium range attack that's good with killing people at low hps, and is good with shooting people who are running away from her shotgun blasts since she is so fucking slow while firing anyways.
What if they made it so that winstons gun did damage
It's easy to tell what someone plays by the characters they want nerfed.
>>337172795
Then he'd be the most broken motherfucker in the game by far
>>337172691
>>337172691
You get some digital bonuses in Blizzard's other games, like Overwatch logo card backs for Hearthstone and a pet Winston in WoW and shit like that
That's it, that and the skins
>>337167827
Buff Genjis sword slash move. I get it can't be a one hit ko but when it takes fucking 3 to kill tracer somethings wrong here.
>>337172426
Zero Suit D.Va's actually not bad though. She has HIGHER DPS than mech form, and you can kill people pretty quickly if you can aim, and they're not focus firing at you.
I just want a smaller critbox on her mech.
zennyatta needs a movement skill or SOME WAY to move more quickly. It takes fucking forever to keep up with your team. Even if it's just a flat 5 point movespeed increase i'm okay with that, but he is just so slow, he can't keep up with fucking D.Va's walkspeed.
Jesus Christ /v/ this is some horrible shit
Do you guys realize your favorite isn't supposed to be good at everything and win every matchup?
>>337173216
But I play S76
>>337172980
Jesus that's awful. I think I'll pass, even if I'm getting a good deal on the disc version.
>>337173216
But, we can all agree on that McCree is some overpowered piece of shit, right?
>>337173061
>3 hits to kill tracer
have you even played genji? it takes two strikes at most
>>337173349
na just play against mcree like you would reaper, dont get close, the only thing mcree has is damage and if they took that away the character would be worthless
>>337173435
I am talking about his speical E move where he dashes forwards. It takes three of them to kill her
>>337172946
>>337173514
you aren't supposed to rely on one ability when killing anything really
even using your normal melee is a high threat for tracer
I'd just give D'va a slight damage increase.
She doesn't need any other buffs, she's good as it is.
The damage increase is just for Bastion's extra 100 health really.
200 health defenders like widowmaker, dwarf, junkrat and hanzo are all free kills if you catch them, but Bastion's extra 100 health will destroy your mech when you exchange dps.
You'll still kill him, but it's annoying.
>>337173517
Thank you for this senpai.
I am building up my high speed folder.
>>337167827
>Genji:
>No changes
this triggers me
>>337172857
Try me.
They need to nerf Mercy(builds ult too fast, way too mobile even with the "here's your high value target" sign), Reinhardt(shield's just too good, nothing compares), Tracer and Widow.
I honestly didn't expect the game to be so much fun. I figured the combat was going to be boring, the controls were going to be unresponsive and the heroes were going to handle like a dude who ate all the pies.
Maybe I spent too much time playing indie.
>>337169212
This is my favorite piece of overwatch porn period, and I'm confident I've seen over 75%+ of all of it.
i wish there was more similar.
>>337173715
I know but when it does so little damage to tracer imagine what it does to other people nothing. I am not asking for it to be killer but just make it worth using in combat instead of mobility.
>>337167827
>Bastion:
>+Increase his heal rate from 50HP per second to 75HP
>+Increase his configuration speed
>-Reduce his range while in sentry mode
He also needs either a timer for how long he can stay in sentry mode or a damage nerf in it
>>337173824
If Mercy is building Ult too fast that just means the other team is building their Ult just as fast.
>Dva damage and movement increase
no you cant have both
>>337173908
but it is worth using in combat, want to know how much damage it does? 50hp, 1/4 of a 200hp hero, and a third of a tracer. furthermore it's very good as a finishing move, as killing someone will refresh its cooldown
>>337173979
But that means that the only counter to a Mercy is another Mercy, which is bad.
>>337174142
You could always kill her
>>337174213
Should I shoot her until she dies?
>>337174268
I prefer a good explosion but that also works.
Yesterday I killed a Mercy and then she revived, but she was the only Mercy on their team
Can she revive herself if she ults right before she dies? Or was I hallucinating that
>>337167827
Mei:
+Make her thicker
+Make walls taller and last longer
+Make her freeze people faster and do more damage
+Make her emote more
Anyone see the Overwatch animated shorts?
Its a pretty fun watch. Blizzard should start making movies.
McCree
-Slower reload so rolling is actually necessary
Pharah
+Less spread on ult
Reaper
+Make friendly Reapers' teleport graphic look different
Soldier 76
-Biotic Field either has less AoE or changes into a self-heal only
Bastion
-More vulnerable when self-healing
-Takes longer to switch configurations
-More long-range spread in sentry form
-Can only aim <= 20 degrees up or down in sentry form
Hanzo
-Smaller AoE on ult
Junkrat
-Less effect time on steel traps
Mei
-More spread and less range on freeze gun
-Reduced movement speed when firing freeze gun
-Less alt-fire damage
-Ice walls vulnerable to friendly fire
>>337167827
>Bastion
Change ammo pool to infinite like DVa's, it's stupid that he has to stop shooting once in a while
>DVa
Make the ult hit through walls
Tighten her weapon spread
Let her shoot through defense matrix
>Genji
Reduce recharge on his slash if it doesn't hit an enemy
Hold down M1 for a constant stream of shuriken instead of 3 at a time
Infinite dashing while in ult
>Hanzo
Charge arrows faster
Dragon should shoot out faster but stay on the field longer once extended
>Junkrat
increase grenade explosion radius
increase trap throw distance
double rip-tire health
>Lucio
shorter recharge after M2
slightly increase base health and speed boosts
>McCree
Reduce charge time on ult for enemies already on-screen
>Mei
Let her slide on ice to move faster
Give Ice Wall a pushback effect if an opponent is under where the wall is erupting
>Mercy
increase sidearm damage
heal Mercy whenever she is beaming
beam provides ult charge even when not healing
>Pharah
increase health by 50
increase splash damage and radius on rockets
>Reaper
decrease spread on guns
decrease reload time
decrease activation time for teleport
>Reinhardt
Increase shield charge rate
Increase hammer swing speed
Increase angle of ult
>Roadhog
decrease spread
increase clip to 6
longer stun time on hooked opponents
>Soldier 76
reduce reload time on rockets
Increase assault rifle damage when in ult
>Symmetra
drastically increase either sentry damage or health
decrease sentry placement cooldown
increase weapon range
>Torbjorn
Increase damage and HP on turrets
Allow for more armor pickups
>Tracer
Rewind always heals
>Widowmaker
decrease shot charge time
remove red tracer
increase poison mine damage
>Winston
increase electrogun damage
>Zarya
Increase time on bubbles from 2 seconds to 5
Increase damage on charged gun
>Zenyatta
Increase weapon damage
Increase health by 100
The perfect game
>>337174604
>Those Bastion and DVA buffs
Kill your self robotfucker scum
>>337174750keep reading
>>337173979
Split across 4-6 different characters all exposing themselves to some risk to build it. Also gotta consider how much impact it has, Mercy's ult is fucking insane.
>>337173146
>Zero Suit D.Va's actually not bad though.
I know this, which is why I want her to have Es and Shifts so I can use her as a main.
>>337174560
>McCree
>-Slower reload so rolling is actually necessary
In a game where Soldier 76 can shoot the whole day? Nah, fuck you.
>Pharah
>Reduce jet fuel, increase jet speed, increase speed fuel recovers
Makes her movement more erratic and less "shoot me," while also making the player have to work more to use their jets to move unpredictably
>Bastion
>Lower recon mode damage
>Lower tank mode duration, or remove health/armor benefit for it
A lot of people just say sentry mode is OP, but his fucking recon gun being nearly as good is what makes him really bullshit and too well rounded, I use recon 85% of the time with him now because it's just better to use it most time and clutch sentry machinegun a choke when least expected; also his ult is way too good compared to pretty much everyone else.
>Torjborn
>Sentries don't auto-lock on, instead they turn from target to target as needed, but are otherwise just as accurate
As it stands they instantly start shooting at anything in range, so poking them is even punished a little bit and it's really easy for good Torjborn players to just leave their turret alone in a good spot
>D.va
>Have defense matrix blow up explosive weapons like Junkrat's grenade launcher or Pharah's missile launcher instead of canceling them
Would make more skill plays with defense matrix to reflect explosions back at players
I think everyone else is in a pretty good spot, McCree and Roadhog might do a little too much damage, but that's about it
>>337174604
zenyatta just needs faster base movement speed.
>any character even gets close to me
>in an extreme do or die situation every time
his damage is already fine and will bail you out if you can aim.
Dammit, I have a boner from OP's picture.
reduce cooldown on widowmaker's grapple hook. Her mobility is too shitty
mei is like the cold version of pyro except even more ez mode
>>337174805
Half the time I just blow it on one or two heroes when it's up, otherwise I sit on it all game until something big happens. Only time it seems to shine is when everyone is grouped up and dies to a single reaper ult, which should have been avoided in the first place.
>>337175223
>Her mobility is too shitty
I can't tell if you're serious or shitposting
Top Tier. These are characters that are essential in competitive games where everyone knows what they are doing. You will not see a high-skill game that doesn't have these characters.
Reinhart
Lucio
Mercy
Great Tier. These are characters that stand above others in the same role.
McCree
Pharah
Winston
Good Tier. These are just solid characters that can make a huge impact
Soldier 76
Widowmaker
Hanzo
Tracer
Junkrat
Mei
OK Tier. Situational, can be useless or decent.
Genji
D.Va
Zinyatta
Roadhog
Shit Tier. Noob trap characters. Characters that are overall weak compared to others in their class and have hard counters that make them very useless against skilled players
Bastion
Trobjorn
Anyone that I forgot probably belongs in shit tier.
>>337175381
Yeah, because you'll have it back in 15 seconds. Pretty much every ult is the same way, if you're waiting for the perfect opportunity you usually won't use it for the entire match. Mercy's builds ridiculously fast, especially considering how impactful and easy to use it is. It doesn't even put her at any risk like McCree's or Phara's does, and God knows it's a hell of a lot more useful.
>>337169212
>Widowmaker:
>No changes
>Can oneshot all but tanks with no travel time on bullets
>Has wallhack
>Has grapple to take her to any vantage point
>Has a deployable mine that will notify her of flankers
Ok.
>>337175946
Torbjorn's gun, ult, movement speed, odd silhouette, and armor packs make him a solid support/offense character all around before bringing the turret into the equation.
>>337167827
>>337174604
do you guys work for blizz? because you're as terrible at balance as they are.
>>337174750
>>337175051
>>337176158
>People seriously replying to the joke post
>>337175946
>>337175946
>genji is bad
stop this meme, he's high skill ceiling. just because you can't play him doesn't mean no one can
>>337176407
If your character doesn't even need a counter, he's not terrific.
i'd go about balancing /v/ to not have 10 threads of the same game at a time
>>337174560
Torbjorn
-Less turret lvl 2 health
+Faster turret repair
-Armor pickups expire if not picked up
D.Va
+More projectiles per shot
+Defense Matrix reflects all caught projectiles once ended
+Can strafe during charge attack
-Deals less damage out of mech
Reinhardt
-Reduced range on Fire Strike
+Small stun or high knockback inflicted by Fire Strike
Roadhog
-More vulnerable when self-healing
-Alt-fire does less damage at close range
Winston
+Greater damage/knockback from jump attack
+Can jump attack twice in relatively quick succession
Zarya
+Change firing graphic so you can actually tell what the laser's range is
Lucio
+Change ult to give allies armor instead of temporary shields
Mercy
+Ult revives every dead ally regardless of position
-Ult counter is set back if Mercy dies
Symmetra
+Turrets are less visible, charge faster, and can heal an ally if no enemies are near
-Turrets have less AoE and require sustained fire to deal full damage, much like the gun
Zenyatta
+Moves faster
+Discord Orb can penetrate shields
>>337174870
There are a lot of characters that could benefit from slower reloads, actually, but McCree stuck out to me b/c of the roll.
>>337176407
He is high skill ceiling. But even at that ceiling mediocre. You'll do better, and far easier, just using tracer.
>>337175949
I agree it charges real fucking fast and makes up for bad players, but really I wouldn't play her otherwise. I usually just play Lucio when I'm alone since that hero is just brain dead easymodo and actually puts out some damage himself.
>>337176407
>You're just bad so you cannot make an objective judgement
Much logic, such wow.
I didn't say he was bad, try some reading comprehension, kid.
>>337174856
>d.va is Elastigirl
This only makes my dick harder
>>337167827
At the very least only allow 1 hero on a team, stop the stupid hero stacking
>>337176909
I actually don't mind the buildup being quick, since the game is so slow with all the chokepoints when there are no ults at the ready. But it needs some sort of adjustment all things considered. Probably cut the time corpses can be patched up by a quarter or so.
>>337177038
Agreed.
They could at the very least make a completely different game.
>>337176918
>, kid.
>>337177323
They may as well, this one sucks.
>>337177374
>>target dummy for you to smack around and just get a ready of damage on with a ticker displaying damage from last hit and sustained DPS
Even Splatoon had this for release.
>>337177374
>dps meters for wow kids
>letting other players shit up people's screen at will
>encouraging instapicking assault/sniper
>being salty he can't outplay a turret even once in 10 minutes
man, I sure hope you're joking
>>337177374
>Remove loot crates, give us coins and let us buy the shit we want instead of having a fucking roulette
but there are coins to do exactly that already
>Option to vote kick.
why?
just in case anyone is curious, no there isn't a level cap, and the xp needed per level is the same after level 22.
You can eventually unlock everything without money even with the worst luck because repeats are broken down into coins (at a shitty rate but if getting 4 credits per level you will eventually unlock everything)
>>337177374
>remove crates gib coins
but then how will they hook you on levelling up and earning crates? You can't be allowed to have everything you want or you'll stop playing.
>>337177971
Then maybe you should start doing some.
>>337174482
Mei doesn't need to be any thicker.
>>337177971
Hearthstone has made me appreciate the lack of chat in multiplayer games.
Remove chat and voice options.
>>337177971
>>337178163
>>337178267
next time open the options menu you giga retard
>>337177971
>finally get POTG today for the first time
>instead of any of the times I got a triple/quadruple kills while blocking ultimates and defending the objective with Defense Matrix, it's just a shot of my exploding mech getting a triple kill on potatoes
>>337178163
I really didn't think I'd like playing as him, but
>That credit to team he is just by being alive
>>337178332
I saw this on reddit.
sauce on OP pic pls, I know, Im awful
>>337169108
>winston
>flirting with S Tier
HOW.
He's fun but he feels underwhelming as fuck to me.
>talking about nerfs and buffs before the game is even out
no wonder you pussies cant handle fighting games and have to play casual shit like this
>>337178628
hot monkey dick
monkey trouble
>>337178628
It's because a very common and powerful team setup uses 2 Winstons to great effect.
>>337178628
His shield is very useful, he has good mobility and high hp. He is a tank, not meant to kill people.
>>337178742
>>337178667
That requires two winstons.
I wish he had a damn alt fire and his shield had just a little more utility.
That or he gets a second ability in his ult. Why not let him grab someone and stun them like he did to Reaper in the trailer?
>>337178628
He absolutely counters picks like widow and hanzo shit a lot of defenders. Hes strong as FUCK in the right hands
>>337178663
It puts the bait on it's plate.
>>337178765
>not ment to kill people
>jumps up on top of platforms and swats snipers into the abyss
>>337178834
his jump actually does damage if you land on someone
not a ton but it helps
>>337178834
>>337178765
>>337178742
Now I want to see a whole team of Winstons monkey slap everyone around one of the small building maps.
>>337179070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahE0IhDvu84
voice chat is annoying but there isnt too many videos yet
>tfw killing enemy Mercys as Mercy
>>337177924
>You can eventually unlock everything without money even with the worst luck because repeats are broken down into coins (at a shitty rate but if getting 4 credits per level you will eventually unlock everything)
You say this, but uh..they gonna change that.
Enjoy paying, goy
>>337167827
I hope you get hired by Blizzard then subsequently fired immediately after.
>>337169108
>S76 is a better secondary support than Zenyatta
wew laddy lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ugJZXlA0oM
Nerf bastion
>>337179861
>Playing Mercy
Faggot.
>>337167827
Make Mei Thiccer.
+9001 to thicc
>>337167827
Jesus christ I've played since fucking beta and these suggestions are GOD AWFUL and I will go through each and every one of them and tell you why:
Bastion:
He is good enough already
Sitting in one spot like you state is not overpowered in the slightest bit
And tank with his team can kill him
And widowmaker or hanzo can kill him
Any junkrat or pharrah can kill him
And guess what
ANY OTHER CHARACTER CAN ASWELL
He is not bad by any means, but he is only overpowered in potato-level games
D.Va:
EXTREMELY underrated hero
While her ult cant kill anyone or anything other than buildings or a sentried bastion (assuming people arent potatoes and run away) it's amazing for zoning their entire team and completely ruining their defenses
Her defense matrix is one of the strongest tank shields in the right situation, it can completely shut down the enemy team and let yours walk over theirs
While her mobility and guns allow her to backline and shut down certain areas and heroes completely
Genji
Did I just fall for a bait? God am I getting old......... I swear /v/ is ran by children these days. Do any of you even know what it's like to grow old, cynical, depressed, and only be able to live through life under the affects of alcohol? I bet you still listen to nickleback and actually own a non-nintendo console.
Hanzo:
LOL
Literally just LOL
It's the most telegraphed thing in the game
Junkrat:
Stronger than everyone else you listed so far, but I agree
Lucio:
This is masterful bate, I am only taking it for the (You)'s (repeat it with me)
His ult is broken and the decay on the shields needs to be slightly faster
McCree:
That's a horrible change and makes no sense and isn't consistent with the rest of the game
Just make his ult only able to target the number of enemies equivalent to the number of shots he has loaded, and increase his reload time slightly.
/post
>>337180269
>not playing best girl
I bet you play something gay like McCree
>>337180332
I play as Reinhardt.
>>337179070
>join a game of assault on hanamura
>everyone's picking heroes
>someone bitches about having too many of 1 hero before the final picks are even done
>teammates were tired of hearing this bitching all day so they all pick the same hero to spite him
>roadhog
>6 bunny hopping bellies come bouncing out of spawn
>the other team hears the rumbling and shits their pants
>we invade the point and spread everyone's asshole with six hooks constantly flying
>manage to snatch a pharah out of the air, we give her a buckshot bukkake
>pharah rage quits
>anyone who even dares breaking a corner to shoot at us gets caught and raped without a team push
>enemy team finally pushes
>we have our ults charged
>mfw
We did the same thing next round with Tracers. I've never seen a team so frustrated.
>>337180286
here is an idea
mercy pistol also goes though reinheart shield
there balanced, now mercy is useful
>>337180598
Dude, hah.
I actually fought a team of roadhogs today.
They got their shit rekt when they couldn't do anything against Pharah.
Similarly I played on an all tracer team yesterday. We lost, but at least we got in some fun kills.
>>337180286
>most telegraphed thing in the game
Oh, so when a huge fucking energy dragon covers the entire payload for thirty seconds and there's jack shit I can do about it I'll at least be able to complain about it ahead of time.
>>337180286
You literally posted nothing about Genji and Lucio's shield from his ult drains super fast.
>>337169108
Tierfags are the cancer that kills games. I wish you retard would fuck off and die. Not everything needs to be grouped into tiers!
>>337180332
>playing as a Swiss
There is a special place in hell for people like you
>>337181058
Mercy is perfect. I want to marry her!
>>337169108
What did they do to Symmetra that fucked her over so hard?
>>337181007
>Le plays with sound off poster xd
Fuck off
>>337181041
Genji is a weird as fuck champ
I can't really say anything about him other than he is one of the best heroes to stack in my opinion due to how he works if the coordination is there
>>337181162
I'm going to fuck Mercy, then I'm going to fuck you. Fucking nerd.
>>337181392
she isn't bad, she is just overshadowed by some rather powerful heroes in comparison
If there is one thing that makes her meh tier it is her team shield only preventing one shots on squishies. Everything else was pretty nice to use.
>>337181478
That's lewd, anon.can I at least lick your cum out of her cunt while you do?
>>337173824
Do you play... Junkrat? Roadhog?
>>337181641
Fine.
>>337168895
You don't teleport into the fray retard, you teleport to reach places wehere you can attack from an unexpected direction
>>337168895
Also Symmetra is a shit support character because she's a great defense character. Six turrets will kill you before you know what happened. Teleport HP is pointless, if they find it thy should be able to get rid of it.
>>337181641
>Mercy player is a beta fag
Why is this so common among healers?
>>337167827
Widowmaker: Increase time needed to charge a shot. She does too much damage too quickly.
Zenyatta: Increase movement speed. He is fine as a glass cannon but he's such an easy class to , and if trapped in a group of enemies there is no chance of him escaping.
Mei: Increase fall-off damage of the icicle projectiles. She should be a close combat hero, not someone who picks off a widowmaker across the map.
McCree: Flash bang only stops enemies instead of completely stunning them.
RoadHog: Increase Hook cooldown. He has the ability to paralyze and instantly kill a hero. Having this ability every 6 seconds seems a bit too much.
>>337182138
It's just the way of the world, anon. I can't help wanting to be pushed around orforced to eat Mercy's hairy, cum-soaked pussy.It's just the way my brain and dick work.
>>337182336
Well, at least you don't want to pleasure the guy fucking Mercy. Right?
Am I the only person here who wouldn't change anything? No buffs or nerfs?
>>337182120
teleporter can take 2 hits, the third will cause it to self destruct
>>337167827
Those Dva changes would make Reaper even more obsolete than he already is.
>>337182479
give zenyatta 50 hp and reduce his damage by 10% but increase the damage his orb gives by 5% and id agree
None of the characters need rebalancing
However increase the respawn time ESPECIALLY ON DEFENSE WHEN THE CART IS ABOUT TO BE PUSHED TO THE FINISH
Nothing pisses me off more than killing 4 people in a row only for the first one I killed to come back before I can get rid of the other two.
Fuck
>>337167827
I feel like they should give Junkrat two bear traps to use at once.
>>337182447
Of course not, anon.except I totally do. I want to rim his asshole as he fucks Mercy and suck on his balls as he shoots his hot load deep inside her pussy. It's not cuckoldry, it's just a threesome. I'm not married to her or anything and if I were, I wouldn't do any of this. I'd keep her to myself. Cucks are disgusting.
>Get really into the beta but can't play much because finals
>Finals over
>Bored as fuck
What the fuck am I going to do for two weeks when I'm burnt out on pretty much everything I play
>People thinking Bastion needs buffs or nerfs
Bastion needs mechanic changes. Again.
He's very strong in public games where teams aren't coordinated. If he gets any team support that problem is increased greatly. Being able to kill shitter Bastions who camp one spot all game isn't an argument against this.
On the flip side against teams that are actually coordinated it's not even worth the time picking Bastion except sometimes to surprise the enemy team with quickly.
Personally I think they should bring his shield and 180 turn radius back. The shield prevents the ezmode counters that make him useless against not-baddies while at the same time becoming vulnerable to flankers. It's not like going back to how he originally was either, because he's been changed in other ways as well. He's able to switch forms quite quickly now, and the recon form doesn't suck massive ass anymore, so a good Bastion with situation awareness isn't going to be made 100% useless by flankers like he originally was.
>>337182881
art lessons
draw overwatch lewds
>>337183103
I already have like six other hobbies I'm not committed to. My art skills are mostly just the result of boredom during class
>>337175548
hanzo's is way better. He can climb walls anytime he wants
>>337172116
D.VA doesnt need those buffs because she's not really a tank. You gotta use her like a reaper who has more survivability with her massive armored health, defense matrix and dash. You run in from the flanks, shoot up some niggas and when everyone wants your korean boypussy, you get out.
>>337182789So if he decides to make you both his, you'd go along with it? God damn anon, you're one faggot.
>>337169108
>Roadhog lower than Dva
HOW
>>337182789
anon pls stop I already came (figuratively and literally) from the mercy thread~~
I think I want round 2
Honestly, D.va just needs to remove the movement slow while shooting.
Her cannons suck, but they CAN be annoying.
She's a like a little bee flying around, distracting you. But leave her alone long enough and she'll sting.
>>337183373
roadhog is shit
mlg obviously knows better than some rag tag group of anonymous players on the internet
>>337167827
Hanzo's melee should have a push back effect
Remove Mei from the game.
That's it. Fuck Mei, fuck anyone who plays Mei, and fuck all Chinese people for being the same race as Mei.
>>337183373
It's the "Roadhog healing himself makes him an ult battery" meme. This doesn't take into effect all the loss in ult gain when he kill enemies, which happens all the fucking time since he's pretty strong if you aren't a shitter.
>>337183338Maybe. Especially if it meant I could spend more time with Mercy. I'd love to be the bottom slut in that relationship, with Mercy being a step above me and using me to pleasure her when she needed to get off. Although she doesn't seem like the dom/sub type, so this might be a bit of a flawed fantasy. I'd rather do cutesy and lovey-dovey stuff with her, desu. She doesn't seem like the polygamy type to me.
>>337183518
Keep the tildes off /v/, anon. It just makes you look like even more of a fuckboy. And that's coming from me.
>>337182719
50 shield or 50 regular?
This is important.
>>337169108
>Winston
This will never stop being funny. People who try their fucking hardest to make non-competitive games competitive are the fucking worst. There is a reason TF2 competitive was always a fucking joke that nobody except the 10 or 15 people that played in "leagues" took seriously.
>>337167827
Reinhart needs that projectile to go at least slightly faster. It doesn't need anything else, hell you can lower the damage if you want, but jesus christ it's a snail pace on all levels.
>>337167827
Buff all characters I play. Nerf everyone else. Remove Mei.Or make her thicker.
>>337179043
I never feel like it does anything. A direct hit on someone (small window) should interrupt or mini stun, general AoE is just damage.
>>337167827
>Junkrat:
>No changes
Make a cooldown between casting and exploding his mine. It should not be immediate damage.
I'd increase Winston's shield power a bit. It's nice for hopping and slapping guys, but in a crowd it's basically useless.
>>337167827
i would hide viral threads that are soliciting market feedback
Wait, how do you make the "player killed player" thing in the top right show up? is that on by default? I never had that during the entire beta and I see it in these webms
>>337167827
Don't feel like reading the whole thread but D.Va's mech explosion needs a shorter detonation time and make D.Va and her teammates invulnerable to the blast (if they're not already, didn't play her enough to notice)
Maybe give Pharah a small shield during her ult or give her more air time.
>>337168895
Why the hell would you wanna buff Mei and Reaper!? Though I agree Symmetra needs a buff so does Zenyatta
Characters I'd actually change/know enough about to actually chime in on:
>Bastion
-Bullet Spread. Miniguns should be deadly at mid range, not at sniping range.
+Bring back frontal shielding
-Lower overall turning speed in Turret mode, flanks should have more than enough time to take him out via weakpoint, right now he can just do a 360 instantly.
>D.va
+Reduce head hitbox in mech mode
+Buff overall Mech damage slightly,
+Remove the slowdown on shoot
>Winston
+Increase Shield health moderately.
>Mei
-Add a function to her self heal, where the ice she's in can be cracked and shattered based on being hit, getting hit to much in this form will break you out of heal and result in a stun
-Reduce overall health of the walls, make shooting them actually viable
-Set Mei's difficulty display to 0 stars.
>Pharah
+Increase overall speed in the air
>Mercy
-Reduce the invulnerability time on revived players.
+Allow her to use her dash without a team mate at a lower effective rate.Back spawning with mercy is so unbelievably painful
>Lucio
-Reduce overall self healing
+increase overall speed mode
>Widowmaker
-Reduce rate of charge
-Increase the ammo used per shot in sniper mode
-Make the assault rifle she has a seperate weapon, Her current setup makes self defense way too easy for a sniper
Good widowmakers can currently shut down this game without a real counter, save for other good widowmakers. I don't get why she doesnt get more flack
>Reinhardt
-Increase the broken shield cooldown from 5 to 10 seconds
This will punish dumb reinhardts who just wm2, smart reinhardts who put the thing away will be mostly unaffected.
>Reaper
+Teleport animation speed up
>Soldier 76
-Reduced self healing rate. S76 should not be a more competent healer than Zenyatta
or something like that I don't know.
>>337185241
Pharah's ult isn't bad.
People are just not realizing the golden rule of Pharah applies to her ult as well. That rule being "Don't hang out in the air".
Her ult can be used on the ground. It's still not the most amazing ultimate ever, but it can be a lot better when people aren't just sitting out in the open waiting to die.
Drop lootboxes more often.
>level 25.
>Takes eight matches where I win to get one lootbox.
>It's full of three sprays and a duplicate of a skin I already have.
>>337170191
>>337170425
Man having 225 Health would be nice, I could see Zenyatta being the less squishy of all 3 healers.
>>337185645
D.Va's mech has a head? Is it her head?
>>337167827
Fuck, those lewd D.Va pics being posted all the time are driving me crazy.
This gonna be a rough night.
>>337185739
>Tfw
>>337185645
Poor Zenyatta...even S76 is a tougher healer with aoe healing...
>>337185645
Bullet spread + lower turn rate is a bad combo. Forcing Bastion to engage at closer range and having bad turning on top of that when half the characters have gap closers is very heavy handed.
Really though, the lowered turn rate is just bad on its own. Something better would be giving him a limited firing arc. It gives an opening to exploit without just making Bastion frustrating to play.
>>337167827
Make Bastion only fire in a 180 Degree arc in front of him.
Remove Icecunt mcfuckmyownteam from the game
There, the game is now perfect.
>>337185954
D.va's mech has a head hitbox in the center of her damn mech, which means she's going to be taking extra damage from a lot of stray shots.
It really kills any semblance of her being a "tank" class.
>>337185673
True, its just instinctive to use it midair on sentry nests or populated spawn points, which obviously make you a target. Maybe make her fire off more rockets in a shorter time period and reduce the ult time to balance it. That way you can at least smoke two to three people.
since we are doing this
>offense
fine overall, i feel like genji needs a buff, either to damage of his shurikens or damage to his shift
i just dont see the point of picking him over tracer for backline disruption, his ult is strong tho
>defense
junkrat is a tad too good right now, its extremely difficult to cap the second point on those capture attack defense maps vs him
maybe reduction in rate of fire and slower reload?
i kind of want to give hanzo a buff, but then again, it might be one of those cases where if people get more proficent with him his true potential starts to show but i might be wrong
mei is total bs and should get some sort of nerf, either hp nerf or left click nerf, like a reduction in the time it takes to freeze someone
>tanks
tanks seem to be least balance out of the hero archetypes
reinhard is by far the best out of the bunch, followed by roadhog and dva
no idea about potential changes tho, more damage for zarya and winston maybe
>supports
give zen a bit more hp and you have a pretty good trio of supports along lucio and mercy
i have no idea about symmetra, she seems really out of place
>>337185645
>Good widowmakers can currently shut down this game without a real counter, save for other good widowmakers.
D'va is a direct counter to her.
Spot sniper, shield up and charge, knock her off the roof and finish her off.
Widowmakers assault rifle is like gentle kisses.
While shield charging D'va can't be hurt by the sniper rifle, but even without shield it takes a few sniper rounds to kill a D'va.
I love it when Widowmaker shoots me, let's me know where she is so I can grind her to paste.
Can someone explain the appeal of D.Va besides manchildren going MUH KOREAN WAIFU. She's boring as fuck and shit to boot
>>337187052
being able to fly up to snipers and disabling ults at point blank for no damage to your team
nullifying bastion completely
being a dick to reaper or enemy support
>>337171295
Lol how is his range a problem?
I played ONLY mccree in beta, racked up like 120 games.
Literally 90% of my kills were from idiots running into my stun and getting 100-0'd from fan the hammer.
I lost duels in mid-long range even against "close range" heroes like reaper and tracer even when I landed all of my shots.
Mccree does laughably low damage at long range unless you score headshots, which are near impossible. Even then, you need 2 headshots in a row to kill someone long range.
I think Mccree is balanced. He has a healthy window of power when his stun is up, and the stun has counterplay as well.
Tracer can bait it using dashes, good Reapers can dodge it with their invulnerability thing. Genji has enough mobility to dodge stun if played correctly, and even his E can be used to fuck up a dumb mccree that will throw the stun at him instead of on the ground. Soldier and Pharah just need to abuse range advantage to win.
Honestly, I felt as though all heroes were healthy and balanced. I found that every hero had some kind of counterplay.
Not once during the whole beta did I think "wow that shit is just broken"
>>337178485
Why are you on reddit, anon?
>>337167827
>Drawing a cute petite girl with almost cowtits proportions
>mfw
Now back to topic:
Zenyata needs some buff urgently, the hero is literally a shittier Lucio.
Maybe you can have 2 orbs (healing and debuff) on the field at the same time. Maybe increase his health so he doesn't get oneshoted by Widows. Just make him viable, because he's the most fun to play supp, but he's also the worst.
>>337186915
>It takes a few sniper rounds to kill d.va
Widowmaker can get a few rounds out in no time, her charge rate is ridiculous. D.va is also the easiest class to headshot.
Widowmaker's assualt rifle is actually comparable in damage to S76's, its just the spread is worse.
>>337186850
Genji can instagib 200hp heroes if he gets up close to them.
M2 headshot+melee+shift can be done in about a quarter of a second.
>>337187052
She's really cute.
>>337186915
>Widow uses her hook after she gets bumped and then dumps sniper shots into you
>Wowitsfuckingnothing
Bastion turret form has spread, but the first shot is always accurate
D.vas dash has two charges, can be used backwards
Junkrats trap can be thrown longer distances
Lúcios music plays all the time
Mccrees ultimate is an increase to the accuracy of Fan the Hammer, lasting 3 uses
Mei now takes 25% damage when healing
Soldier 76s ultimate is now the addition of minor homing capabilities to his missile
Symmetras shields give you 50hp with perma regen
Toblerones turrets now take 0.3s to lock on, can build two level 1 turrets
Tracer has slightly bigger ass
Fixed the game
>>337187052
Speed, maneuverability, simplicity, survivability and hilarity.
Also she doesn't have to stay with the group to harass and kill.
She's almost as fast as tracer, but can move in all 3 dimensions.
Unlike tracer you don't have to ambush, headshot multiple times and run away. Unless your mech has been popped.
Her weapon is like an automatic shotgun with no reloading or any real need to aim.
Most 200 health people you can defeat by sheer survivability even with your weak guns.
And self destruct is always funny if you do it right.
Don't play her as a tank, she's not one.
>>337187610
I haven't been killed once by a widowmaker ever since I learnt to shield charge. I don't see them as a threat in the slightest.
Maybe i've yet to meet a pro after 200+ games
>>337187557
>Anon! Were you looking at my feet?!
-D.VA
Remove/Shrink her crit hitbox, its half her front, makes a 500hp tank more like 250hp
Damage increased slightly overall.
Less spread on bullets
Shoot and Defense matrix
Pilot form should get a roll or something, shes way too easy to KO. Maybe a small drone that just plays the SFX of her MEKA walking, used well it might distract players while she hides/fights from behind.
>>337187052
she's fun. all divers are fun.
She seriously needs to be reworked, though. Pilot form generally encourages you to dick your team by running around and being useless.
>>337187557
Anyone else immediately think this is Poison from the thumbnail whenever they see it?
>>337187714
Widowmaker is a sniper, so of course she attracts a larger amount of shitters then average.
Nothing counters a good Widowmaker other then another Widow. Winston doesn't. D.va definitely doesn't. Maybe a good Genji does because he can follow her anywhere as long as he can land his shots.
I just wanted to come into this thread to request that you all please stop sexualizing D.Va.
Thank you.
>>337188079
Never. D.Va is made for bullying my dick with her feet and being fucked against a wall
>Reducing McCree's range
That's not his problem. It's the fact that his flashbang is AoE, thus undodgable by anything but Tracer or Genji. And then he fans his hammer which will kill almost every hero in the game. If it doesn't, he can roll to nearly instantly reload and then kill every hero in the game.
>>337168895
>Increased movement speed on frozen ground
Does this count for shooting the ground with M! so you can skate away? Because that would be fucking adorable and possibly broken as shit.
>>337187052
Aerial mobility. Has a mech. Two different forms.
>>337168895
dumb cunt xd
>>337187917
if my waifu D.Va had a dick I'd suck her to completion.
>>337188825
Second
>>337177374
>let us buy the shit we want instead of having a fucking roulette
This is Actiblizzard, dummy. I promise a cash shop will be in the game at launch.
>>337174604
>Buff everyone to fuck
I like this guy
>>337189728
>implying the cash shop won't be a way to buy extra loot boxes or Currency
why is everyone shocked that mei is good at close range
its literally her only job
>>337169108
>I don't know how to use her, so she's weak
I've stomped whole teams more than once with Mei. I can't do that with many other characters unless the other team is playing terribly.
>>337168895
I only disagree on Roadhog nerf, I don't think he deserves it. I agree he's strong, but an "invisible" weakness of his is that he feeds the enemy ult charge like nobody's business, since he takes raw, un-damage reduced damage and without a barrier.
>>337182281
They should just make McCree's flashbang blind you for a second or however long it lasts instead of stunning you. At least then you have some chance of retalliating.
>>337177971
Or a Hanzo meme arrowing through walls or the objective
>>337189969
>Her M1 has 3x the range of other "Close range" weapons and prevents disengaging except through abilities
>Best survivability in the game. If her abilities are up she won't die to anything less then a one-shot kill
>Has too much health on top of that
>Her wall can't be broken by anything less then a turret mode Bastion
>Has a high damage long range attack with a decent attack speed
>>337190796
>decent attack speed
I know youre trolling now
Hanzo is fucking broken, and I don't mean his super avoidable ult
You just spam arrows everywhere and get "lucky" headshots left and right, decimating a team if you're left alone
If anyone with 200 health or less dares to get close to you, just one-shot them in the head
Even if they try to run away and get to cover, you can finish them off with a scattershot in most cases
What counters are there? If Winston jumps on your ass, you have enough health to kill him 1 on 1 in almost every situation, the only solution is counter-sniping or gangraping
Either give him a minimum range for arrows to do their current damage, or nerf his health, or reduce arrow hitboxes which are absolutely massive currently
>>337190629
He'd need a drastic range buff on it, then.
>>337168029
That's only thing he's really good at though, one on one close range duels. Take that away and he's a useless character.
>>337187393
I'm a god awful sniper but the amount of kills I've gotten with Widowmaker's left click on practically full health opponents is simply ridiculous.
