Stellaris is fucking terrible. It takes way too long for anything to happen, the upgrades are all boring not to mention you need one specific upgrade to do something remotely interesting or useful and you'll be spending years until they finally fucking give you the upgrade you're looking for, diplomacy is a joke on the same level as Civilization V or even Endless Space. Seriously, I have the game running on the background right now while making this thread and nothing has happened for decades. Exploring is fun and all until you start being forced to deal with other empires, also, the events are all boring and meaningless anyways. Oh cool, I got to read this cool text bit but it basically just means +1%. It takes fucking decades to take over another empire and warfare is there are only two victory conditions that basically mean you have to conquer everyone in your way.
Paradox can't make 4x games for shit. This is terrible. I don't even see DLC saving it.
Glad I pirated it. It's not even challenging, just tedious.
Civilization V on Marathon runs faster than this.
You cunts just don't know how to think
I basically conquered my first rival via technological superiority after two decades.
Just go for intelligent materialistic and you're gold. Focus on research and you won't have issues with practically nobody, it's actually reminding me of old MOO2
>>337161968
put ai difficulty to hard
increase fallen empire frequency
put on blob system, not spirals
you are now fucked
>>337161968
You're absolutely correct.
I wanted this to be good so much.
I mean... there's a fast forward button
>It takes fucking decades to take over another empire
literally not a problem
Just play Distant Worlds Universe. It's the superior game.
>>337161968
Don't worry it will be semi decent after 6 dlcs just like every other paradox title.
>>337161968
Combat made me laugh, one system I ran into early game had 970 str. ships orbiting a black hole. This is when 10 ships of mine barely pushed 200.
>>337161968
>>337161968
multiplayer is where it's at
OP's right; I'm playing a game right now and I'm doing absolutely great as a pacifist/fanatic spiritualist. Four decades in and I have tremendous surpluses, the strongest fleet in the region, plenty of opportunities to expand even with hyperlane travel, plenty of contentedness, a budding alliance, and well-developed planets. It's so fucking boring. Pirates are too infrequent, diplomacy's too simplistic, trade/trade policy might as well not exist, and there aren't any social development aspects at all thanks to the way divergence and its management work.
>Infinite resources
>Nothing to do with them
>Combat sucks
>Diplomacy sucks
Yep
This sure is a thing
>Sins of a Solar Empire turned out more complex andfunthan Shillaris
i hate u johan
>>337163435
i think it's really dependant on what ai empires you encounter and what system you play in
spiral systems are literally mind dumbingly boring as there is ahrdly any border friction to cause mega wars
equally, i had one game where all i encountered where pacifist explorers and spiritual collectivists so they did fuck all and basically made peaceful coalitions
the next game i got surrounded by militants and wrecked
>>337163408
>they called elite mobs
>WHY CAN'T I KILL THEM WITH MY STARTING FLEET
Above all else I agree with the slow part
Is there some secret setting I'm not aware of to make the game go faster for everyone at the same time? I didn't see any setting like that. I made my galaxy huge, maybe that made the game go slower too?
When I talk about slow, I mean the fact that my empire is 100% science based, took over another empire that is also science based, vassaled it, waited for it to merge together and now it still takes me 100 months to complete some upgrades.
100 months? And this is at what I assume is an above-average science levels.
What could they possibly want me to do for 100 months other than have the game run at fastest while I go jack off?
It seriously feels like I missed something and put on some cheat code to make the game go slow. Paradox games don't usually feel this slow. It feels like I'm always doing something instead of just waiting on my ass.
Is the Strong trait worth it or should I get something to boost research?
It tries to be 4x, it tries to be Grand Strategy, it fails on both departments pretty fucking hard.
>>337163834
10 corvettes is not your fucking starting fleet
Is it easy to become overpowered in Stellaris?
That's usually how I have fun with 4x and GS games.
>>337163887
More pop - more cost for research.
>>337164076
Don't worry, just takes you another 50 or 90 months to get your Destroyer army ready :^)
>>337161968
GIT GUD
>>337161968
>Stellaris is fucking terrible. It takes way too long for anything to happen, the upgrades are all boring not to mention you need one specific upgrade to do something remotely interesting or useful and you'll be spending years until they finally fucking give you the upgrade you're looking for, diplomacy is a joke on the same level as Civilization V or even Endless Space. Seriously, I have the game running on the background right now while making this thread and nothing has happened for decades. Exploring is fun and all until you start being forced to deal with other empires, also, the events are all boring and meaningless anyways. Oh cool, I got to read this cool text bit but it basically just means +1%. It takes fucking decades to take over another empire and warfare is there are only two victory conditions that basically mean you have to conquer everyone in your way.
>
>Paradox can't make 4x games for shit. This is terrible. I don't even see DLC saving it.
not an argument
>doing shit for like a decade
>out of nowhere, an empire i never talked to wants to go to war with me for zero reason
>ok
>get my defenses ready
>they roll in with lvl999 fleet and anal evict my lv190 fleet
>remove everything in space around my colony planet and homeworld planet
>dont do anything after that
>cant build anything in space or they instantly destroy it
>cant talk to them and tell them to fuck off because theirs literally no dialogue in this game at all
ok now what
>>337164076
10 Corvettes with basic weapons is shit.
>>337163887
>underageb& hasn't played EU3
Part of the problem is that, unlike EU, CK, or Vicky, there aren't any specific goals to work towards. You can't recreate the Roman empire and lead it in to the industrial revolution, start a second Pax Mongolica, create your own Armenian genocide, or even do simple shit like go on crusades or assassinate leaders. It's this bland, flavorless timesink where you do the same shit over and over again with different numbers. Leaders have no personality whatsoever. Diplomacy is neutered to the point where rival government types mean nothing beyond their cordiality modifiers. That space mod for Civ IV had more to it than this shit.
>>337164205
I literally only had two planets out of the permitted 5 and it was still taking me way too long. Fuck, I even had my race be slow breeders, which I thought was a disadvantage, but apparently it made my science and productivity go even faster. It was still taking me months. I thought I'd start going somewhere once I merged someone else with me, but instead all that happened was that I now had an over abundance of planets I had to let the A.I. control and the research was as slow as ever.
Is this seriously just a me thing? Are most of you guys fine with how long it takes for shit to happen in this game?
>>337164076
it is
It's like peasants in the total war
>>337164287
whine about the game being too hard and how the rng put you next to a xenophobic isolationist fallen empire
reroll
play against a bunch of hippy treefag ai players and whine about how easy it is
i called it. i knew that the lack of historical aspects existing in their other games would make stellaris boring.
can i have a cookie
>>337164551
this is stupid though, i cant even ask all other factions i know to help me out?
i thought this was a game about politics
>>337164334
Nigger, I played motherfucking Hearts of Iron ONE (1).
Yes, back in the early 2000's.
I swear that game felt like riding a cheetah compared with this.
Sounds like a good PC exclusive.
>>337164487
See. I am here shitposting because after one long play I have enough of this game.
That was nice play but game is shallow and have a tons of bad mechanics and poor game choices.
Don't worry - its normal - just immunity reaction to current games.
>>337164487
your probably picking the late game research early game
the crads you get are completely random in most cases, and you need to check which one requires the less research points to invest in over usefulness
i picked fortresses early game and it would have taken me 500 months to finish, i realsied that different tech has different research point needs and reacted accordingly
>>337164704
Then you'll know blobbing reduces your research speed
>>337164551
That's the problem, though. It's honestly boring no matter what. Easy, hard, medium difficulty, it doesn't matter how skillful you are, you'll still be waiting hours for shit to happen.
MAKE WAAAAAAAAAAAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTYpKlIc_fg
Been having some great fun with it. Playing it monday blew me away so hard I literally forgot there was a game of thrones episode that day.
Also made my own empire today, but there's only one thing not working for me so far.
I've worked it out so that every new Ruler is a female Rei Ayanami, because clone resurrection fuck yeah. But it doesn't get the portraits right!
Every portrait except the ruler should be Rei. Right now it works for the first ruler, but not for others. Ideas?
>>337161968
Yeah, I wanted this to be good but it is rushed, mediocre shit.
To the people that are enjoying this game: What are the settings of your game? On what kind of galaxy are you playing? Difficulty? Size of galaxy? Number of A.I. factions? Number of high level A.I. factions?
Seriously, enlighten me. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong here. I'm just not having fun.
>>337164984
Calling a Paradox game released in this state "rushed" is hilarious
>>337164890
What are the settings of your game?
>>337164986
you need to play medium size at maximum to speed through early and late game
2 fallen empires i selected for maximum limit
AVOID SPIRAL SYSTEMS, they lead to chokepoints and literally no wars
rolled xenophobic militarist to make politics harder
hard difficulty
>>337165129
My first "game" was just the default settings. I was doing research and exploring everything, doing those quests. Fun as hell.
I can't blame you for not liking it though.
>>337164986
did you come in expecting a 4x or a grand strategy game? Have you played any previous paradox titles?
>>337164986
Hyperspace for everyone. It makes nice lanes and borders and stuff.
600 stars and max AI plus 4-5 advanced ones.
>>337165248
>2 fallen empires
The fuck are fallen empires? I don't see this setting anywhere. Is this some Paradox DLC jewing going on?
>yfw you'll never get into depp and complex space games
The best I could do was X3 TC.
>>337161968
HOSTILE FLEET DETECTED
HOSTILE FLEET DETECTED
HOSTILE FLEET DETECTED
HOSTILE FLEET DETECTED
>>337165709
I hate modern Paradox as much as the next /gsg/fag but you're fucking retarded
>>337165745
Stellaris is nothing even close to deep or complex
>>337164846
i lost my shit when aladdin/luigi tried to talk to Jasmine
>>337165886
>Stellaris is nothing even close to deep or complex
Should I believe you?
>tfw only two weeks until Warhammer Total War
>tfw only a little over three weeks until Hearts of Iron 4
![img[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3QNtHIU.jpg "img[1].jpg")
how do I recover this probe? I can't start a special project and right clicking with any ship type doesnt help either.
>>337166048
He's right.
>>337166075
It says it's recovered, m8. It has the checkmark and everything.
>>337165745
x3 is boring as fuck though
it's like Morrowind in space
>>337166048
just pirate it (it's like 2GB and Paradox never gives a fuck) and try it out
it will maybe take you an hour to figure out the basics if you've never played a Paradox games
these things really seem more daunting than they actually are
>>337161968
dem pops
anything that isn't human is already enslaved
the playrian empires is being intergrated as we speak as to become new mexico (their humans that thrive off desert biomes)
my ally is the husko empire to my left
the centre is pretty much vassal states
to the south and east are huge federations of pacifists I can't touch...yet
I'm enjoying it, can't wait for mods though. I really want a hentai mod.
I only can find habitable worlds with shit tier stats and i lack the exact kind of tech to colonize them anyways.
Did i fucked something up or i just have to wait until the colonization tech appears and research it?
If there is a solar system with multiple colonizable planets, does it cost influence to colonize them as well?
>>337165248
>>337165886
I actually have no idea what fallen empires are either. Help, please?
>>337161968
So when do the end game cataclysms happen?
I already got the AI revolt in one playthrough but it happened in some empire on the other side of the galaxy and nothing came of it
>>337166436
you have to wait until you get the colonise habitat x research, then eitherinhabit those planets with other species or terraform the shitty ones
>>337166620
appears to happen at random
my unbidden game>>337166249
was because some no name random tiny shitty empire was fucking around with modified warp tech
i was so sure there would be an ai revolt due to the sheer amount of ai around but nope the unbidden shitetrs arrived late game
honestly their not that hard if you crush them straight away, if you don't and allow them to blob you can let them destroy your enemy nations to get dat sweet victory condition
Everything is so simple. The combat is so basic. The diplomacy is so basic. What exactly is the buying point of this VS something like Endless Space?
>>337166048
It's a paradox game my dude, just like bathesda all (new) paradox titles have the depth of a puddle.
MODS AND 10 DLC PORTRAITS WILL FIX IT
>>337166796
FUCKING ENDLESS SPACE? REALLY? FUCK
That's the most shallow shit in the world
>>337166787
ok, it was what i thought it was...the deck of cards type of research trees they use in this game its kinda iffy...
>We had more victory conditions, but they didn't quite work out so we cut them from the release version. We plan to add more in upcoming patches once we balanced them correctly etc.
Literally something the developers said on their forums. What a joke of a game.
>>337166787
i take it back
they have over 40k now
halp
>>337166796
Just get Distant Worlds and turn off all automation if you want a space autism simulator
>>337167014
Dude, this is just as fucking shallow and you know it. If I recall correctly, Endless Space actually had a more complex diplomacy setting. Fuck, the battle system was DEFINITELY more complex than this.
I'm not saying Endless Space is good. I'm just saying this isn't any better.
>>337167054
They said the same thing about slave revolts. Wiz is the king of lazy fixes.
>>337167158
I'm not defending Stellaris but Endless Space is fucking terrible
>>337167179
>average xenophilefag
>>337161968
So, Spore space stage was better?
>>337167179
These are the people we share a board with
>>337167198
Seems like we're in agreement, then. Both games are fucking awful.
>>337167398
Anything is better than Spore space stage
>>337167427
I still think it's silly to ask what the point of buying this instead of Endless Space is
I mean, generally you'd rather play a better game
>>337167096
This, only it's not really autism but fun as fuck
i just want something like MoO 1 and 2
>>337167398
Woah, I wouldn't go that far. They're on a similar level of boring, though.
>>337167663
>all that fun with the ship designer
Compare that to the "best everything and then balance power" of Stellaris.
>>337167398
>>337167603
>>337167824
fuck you i liked it
>>337161968
>This is my first paradox game and I'm too stupid to play it, the post.
>>337168187
>EU4 or CK2 was my first paradox game and I don't know what good gameplay is like, the post.
How the fuck do I get Planetary Administration? I can't upgrade any of my buildings in any of my colonies
>>337168187
>>>/paradoxplaza/
It felt kind of slow once I got past the very beginning with everything but I purposely didn't go above normal speed just to look at things and familiar myself with how things work.
When I think of playing EU3 unless it was war normal speed would be boring as fuck so I can't fault this game.
>>337163393
Well distant worlds has more polish and depth, what would you expect it has been out longer.
For a paradox game I am surprised I didn't run into as many issues, usually I'd wait it out before buying any of their games.
I didn't mind it, it is fun despite lacking a bit in depth it has a much lower learning curve and was fairly quick to pick up and play without thinking for ages about my next move.
It looks prettier than distant worlds which was a bit of an eye sore, though distant worlds gives me more of a sense of wanderlust for exploration and a better sense of progression.
Randomized tech tree is interesting but I think I would have preferred a different system. Best tech tree I have encountered so far was the sots tech tree, I loved research in that game.
>>337168306
>>337168335
>/v/ tries to play a strategy game, the posts.
>>337168329
It's a society tech you have to upgrade your converted colony ship to it which gives 3m 3f. I'm at that point now where I am making them finally makes your colonies profitable.
>>337168187
This is my 6th paradox game and I'm not suprised
All Paradox games are garbage until 3 DLCs later
>>337168420
are you seriously gonna go the route of "you don't like it because it's too complicated"? it was stupid when people said V2 was hard to get into and it has only been getting stupider with every new Paradox release
>>337164076
Yes it is, lol.
You can shit out 10 corvettes fucking easy
So i have been following one of the precurser quest chains for a while, and it finally highlighted the machine civ homeworld, cybrex. I have a science ship just sitting in the system and there is no prompt to do anything. The quest says to "launch an expedition to discover their homeworld" but there is nothing in the system besides the quest highlight. has anyone else done this quest?
>>337167398
honestly so far, spore space stage seems to have more content, and gameplay
It's a 4x game.
What'd you expect?
It's just an annoying combination of too much going on and not enough going on.
It should have been turned based. Having to click between galaxies while tons of shit is happening is just too fucking hectic
how do I expand faster
>>337168695
FUCKING PAUSE IT
>>337168420
IGN drones. I dont have the Simpsons parody with IGN , someone post it.
>>337168719
click the "+" button in the top right
HOW DO I SURPRESS THESE MOTHERFUCKING RIOTERS I WANT TO PURGE THEM
>>337168695
>real-time with pause
>"whoa whoa what the heck is this? i'm in way over my head here!"
So it begins: The Great Shitstorm of Our Time.
>MFW IGN was right all along
>>337168365
Problem with Distant Worlds is that look terrible, GUI is clunky and ship designer is a TOTAL SHIT.
Game is good overall but tech tree is simple as shit and ship designer is TOTAL SHIT>
>>337168869
How can i build transports for colonize?
>>337166249
Your empire kinda looks like a penis
Half the fun in the other games was the historical aspect. Also because there were so many different ais compared to this game the fact that the ais usually don't do much is a lot more noticeable in this game.
My other concern is finding the same neutral ais every time with the same options in dealing with them.
I'm really liking my first game though. I like the tile system it's kind of like civ 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlSx7m09R60
>>337169462
You should play GalCiv if you like tile systems in space
>>337168525
THANK YOU
I started my first game with maximum sectors and 99 AIs but it stutters at times, i hope they ll fix that
Is there a game with the same concept but actually enjoyable?
It seems like it had a lot of potential
>>337169895
Yeah Stellaris in two years and $50 worth of DLC.
>>337168938
lel good luck
The Lolita's are coming.
>barely a year worth of developer diaries
This game was literally thrown together in 12 months to be a platform for future DLC. The base game is shit, even worse than EU IV.
Most of the fun from Paradox games came from ahistorical scenarios. Without that you're just stuck watching bars increase on 4x speed.
>>337170125
there we go
i haven't finished my first game yet (about 8 hours or so) but im having fun
>>337161968
It's a good game for people that are healthy and their dopamine reward system doesn't require flashy things, extraordinary events, 100000 energy for moving from star A to B... it's a good game tbqh, just be patient.
>>337163887
Bigger empires have bigger threshold for stuff like research
>>337170004
Something I could play now
Distant Worlds is better tbqh. It does everything Stellaris wants you to buy DLC to do and is actually fun.
>mfw I now fear Paradox will fuck up HOI4
>>337170189
> I don't know what I'm talking about
>the post
No. After the HOI4 announcement debacle, PDX adopted a policy of not announcing games until they are in Beta.Which they did with Stellaris.
It wasn't rushed, it was only revealed to the public well towards the end of its dev cycle.
Is Stellarisstellar?
>>337170684
This, this is what I fear.
>>337170416
What do you mean by same concept? If you mean grand strategy in space (the part where expansion grinds to a halt and gets replaced by shitty diplomacy), that has never been done before
If you want a good 4X just play Distant Worlds or Star Ruler
Speaking of, how is SR2?
>>337163887
Is this your first Paradox game?
Every game except the Hearts of Iron series basically revolves around bars filling up at 4x as you click to upgrade things. Stellaris is just so bare bones that there's no fun ahistorical shit to hide it.
>>337170360
It's a completely mindless game. Grindy and nothing happens in it.
They shouldn't even have had victory conditions, honestly. I bet even the people who enjoy the game aren't "beating" it
Is it similar to Crusader Kings?
>>337170773
>>337170684
Are you fucking stupid?
>führermana
>experience mana to change division templates
>not even an actual wargame, you draw arrows and let the AI do all the fighting for you
>>337170831
The important part is that Stellaris is really, really, really fucking barebones compared to most other Paradox games. The time spent looking at 4x speed bars while you sit on your thumbs is considerably longer than it is in most their other games.
>>337170125
Can you really use this banners in-game?
>>337170909
Vanilla CK2
>>337170909
Absolutely not. It's Endless Space 2.
Any reason to go xenophobic instead of collectivist? I just want to purge on worlds that I've conquered.
>>337171069
With mods you can.
>>337171127
You know there's gonna be an actual ES2, right? I don't know how enough people bought the first shitfest but there it is
Then again, Stellaris is getting great reviews
Why do casuals ruin everything?
>>337167096
This is the truth.
F
The way influence is right now is stupid, hopefully it gets fixed soon.
>>337171559
>Habsburg
are you serious
Post your maps bros
>>337171167
Xenophobic makes your pops less mad about you being a dick.
>>337161968
Well I have fun. Have one iron man, one normal and one multiplayer game. But I also liked to unite japan in EUIV. So yeah, it is my Kind of game. Drink some Tee, enjoy the progress.
>>337169895
Moo, Moo2, GalCiv 2, Distant Worlds.
>>337171810
Does the unhappiness go away though? I've only purged other aliens twice, and that was when they declared on me. Xenophobe doesn't seem to be worth it because now I can't even do anything vaguely diplomatic.
>>337171697
Yes
>>337171982
Establish embassies.
I've been interested in this game. Can any of you guys who are fans are GSG games give me your thoughts on this? I'm sort of hoping that this game ends up being a slower paced, more macro strategy oriented Sins of a Solar Empire with EU/Vicky style diplomacy and peace deals. Is it like that?
>>337172103
I did, and it's only going up to around 43 max. These aren't even xenophobes.
Is there a way to make rulers males only and females the workers?
>>337171559
Can you play as alien civ and encounter sol or is it just if you play human?
Is there any real drawback to enslaving primitives?
>>337172191
I think it's shit
>>337171794
just finished researching a bunch of sentient AI and synthetic stuff, can't wait to fuck some robots.
>>337172191
If you are going to shell out $40 expecting a space opera with a lot of flavor then I advise against it
>>337172191
just fucking pirate it m80, it's like an even less deep EU4
>>337172191
It's pretty good. I don't get what other people have against it. What were they expecting the second coming of jesus? I'd like to hear their suggestions
>>337172191
Not that deep, but I've enjoyed it. I'm really waiting on some mods though.
>>337172370
You can encounter SoL as aliens
>>337172191
It has a great start but gets boring and tedious 6 hours in. Not very replayable.
I can't really recommend it in good faith.
>>337167179
woah woah woah woah you can have turtle people?
Where do I sign up
>>337172370
>>337172373
No. They couldn't figure out how to make slave revolts fun so slaves just don't revolt.
>>337172519
I like it, but there are some glaring issues
1. Too much micro, I should be able to set baseline upgrades to all my starbases
2. No real consequence for slavery
3. Limited diplomacy options
4. I don't really like how the federation system is implemented
5. The game feels really slow sometimes with absolutely fuck all to do
6. Lack of internal conflicts/factions, ones that actually matter anyway
>>337172370
You can. In my last game I had three Sols and four different species of human due to RNG fuckery
Give me a reason to buy this game.
>>337172434
you done fucked up
>>337173030
There's none, pirate it, you stupid fuck.
>>337172370
I've heard of people encountering Sol & Humans in various states. Pic related is during WW2. Somebody else found Sol as a tomb world inhabited by giant cockroaches.
>>337173030
Hentai
>>337172971
1. Why complain about nothing to do but then complain about too much micro?
2. Slavery is a bug
3. Haven't gone too far into it but I'm happy with how the AI initiates alliances and starts wars
4. Never heard of it
5. It is pretty slow at the start but right now it's way too fast for me I have to pause a lot
6. Have you tried AI?
do you have to spend influence to colonize planets already within your boundry?
>>337173251
are you implying that micro means you have something to do?
Darkest Hour has nothing to do in peace time, that doesn't mean deploying hundreds of divisions isn't way too micro-y
>>337173175
Is there an option to side with the Nazis and give them futuristic tech to guarantee they win?
>>337173175
earth was a tomb world when i found it, bunch of giant cockroaches are all that's left, lol.
>>337173130
>2016
>too poor to buy GAMES
Top kek.
>>337173487
>Turks won the war
>>337173487
Feels good man.
>>337173251
1.I'm not a fan of unnecessary busy-work, I'm already rapidly expanding AND having to tend to my core planets WHILE making sure my science and construction ships aren't goofing off among other things. It can be a bit overwhelming and not in a good way.
2. fair enough
3. I prefer more options especially for espionage and containment agreements but we'll see how it goes
4. fair enough
5. Haven't reached that point yet
6. Not with the faction I'm currently running, but looks like I'll have to give it a go
Can you edit sector names?
>>337173251
>micro
>something to do
That's just busywork. You play strategy games to make important decisions, not click a trillion times to apply the exact same development pattern to every planet.
>>337173749
1. That makes sense.
3. I agree. There are things like that you can do with primitives though.
6. Yeah something cool happens sometimes, I am thinking some other factions have some cool stuff happen randomly as well.
How am I doing for science?
>>337173749
>>337174102
Beware cool things. They will be the death of you.
>>337174334
You didn't listen to shephard did you. The reapers cometh
One thing I really love about this game is if you take out a planets defenses your alliance members will invade for you
>>337161968
I'm enjoying it.
>>337174334
I'm 50 years ahead of you and no one summoned anything yet, just 3 federations slowly butchering biggest starting empire(not fallen) and everyone who didn't join them
;_;
>>337166612
Fallens are basically precursor civs that are scattered around the galaxy that have been reduced to a few systems. They are more often than not the most advanced civs in the game.
>played the game for a grand total of maybe 10 hours
>already bored to fuck
Welp, back to Darkest Hour/Kaiserreich I guess.
Did anyone make a guide about what the most OP traits are? So far stuff like extra lifespan seems worthless.
Oh fuck the repatriates are rebelling
How do you uplift pre-sentient species? I can only build an observation platform for sentient ones.
>You can research space amoebas to breed them as a fighting force.
I want a pet space amoeba.
redpill me on this game, is it actually good?
>>337175770
yes please buy
>>337175770
It is extremely barebones. There isn't much to do. There's a general lack of variety in gameplay as well. What's there isn't that much fun either.
>>337175770
How about you actually read the fucking thread, /pol/tard?
Are you able to steal the Ringworlds from the Fallen Empire that spawns with them and recolonise them with your guys?
>>337175770
It is worth a pirate, not a buy
>>337175770
It has potential, but is currently lacking depth and most of time goes to microing all sorts of pointless stuff. Just wait for patches and for couple of DLC releases, it should be worth playing then.
How easy is modding in multiple custom races and shit like that? For example distant worlds only lets you have 1 mod active at a time, and it's a complete pain in the ass merging mods made by different people.
>>337175770
Pirate it, it's fun for a little while. Wait for mods and pirate the DLC
Is rapid breeder worthwhile?
>>337176249
easy as taking a piss
check the workshop
>>337173398
Not directly but if you put a observation station in orbit around the planet you can help them with faster tech advancements on the planet. So it could help the Nazis.
>>337175639
>>337176360
It's always worth it.
>>337175639
Help
>>337176360
It's alright, obviously doesn't help much with the smaller planets though, and you can always just build robots to fill your population.
The technology one are probably the safest option.
>Make a medium elliptical galaxy with only 4 AIs
>THEY ARE ALL SPAWNED CLOSE TO ME
fucking niggers
Is anyone else having an issue with trading? Every time I try to trade something by selecting what I wish from the empire i'm trading and then selecting what ill give them for it, the trade goes through and they get my shit for free. What am I doing wrong here?
>>337175770
If I paid for it I would have felt like I wasted my money. The mid-game really does feel like a chore, the early game when it's land rush and balancing everything by the seat of your pants, fending off early aggressors and trying to make some friends is pretty good. The problem is the AI is fucking awful, if it loses once it never seems to properly recover, so you may get one tense war and if you win they're done, it's just a matter of slowly taking the bites every ten years until they go away. Also the sector AI that manages your planets doesn't seem to be very good, if you don't hand them prepared and built up planets they tend to take ten times as long to make something half as efficient as the player could. The diplomacy is passable but pretty basic, the mid-game screams for better diplomacy or some kind of espionage system. Endgame is interesting again with the game ending disaster factions, but I have a feeling they're going to get pretty repetitive once you figure out the ideal strategy for each one.
Basically it's an interesting shell of a game, wait for DLC.
>>337176645
Over industrial or intelligent though?
>>337176654
I was leaning towards that. The faster growth time is nice, but the extra science never hurt.
>>337161968
>This is terrible
>I don't even see DLC saving it
So basicly what you are saying is that this is your first paradox game?
Is it possible to make alien slaves happy?
I mean i'm a fanatic xenophobe but they don't need to be completely miserable, if it wasn't for me they'd still be killing each other with sticks the hopeless fucks!
>>337170684
>>337170773
>I fear paradox will fuck up HoI 4
Nigga do you live in the past or something they already fucking butchered the it.
It's weird because I want to play this game. I've already put in 10 hours, but every time I start a game I get to maybe an hour or two in and get bored. I guess I'm happy there's a really solid foundation there.
I'll tell you what, I'm having the hardest fucking time dealing with what's just occured.
>Early in game my Searcher/Researching ship disappeared into the Warp. HERE WE FUCKING GO
>Ally in Federation didn't pay any FUCKING ATTENTION about Sentient AI's taking over. Entire Federation has gone insane because our leader was changed to a Sentient AI (I think this is a glitch; thought Federations were suppose disband when this shit happens)
>Leave Federation to try and stop Sentient AI's
>Remaining living beings in the Federations STAY IN IT
>Have to deal with Sentient AI Federation
>Fuck you guys, I'll expand on the other side
>Other side has a fucking FALLEN EMPIRE
WELP
>My Scientist come back from Warp but half their team is missing and got two more leveling stars
>Dealing with shit on both sides
>Suddenly enemies are pouring out of the WARP, while I'm fighting the Fallen Empire and Sentient AI's on ether side
>They stop bothering me to go after CHAOS
>Well this is going to be easy
All your planets are rapidly becoming infected with an unknown virus after experimenting on a foreign planet
I'm done.
>>337176819
>If I paid for it I would have felt like I wasted my money
Oh i know i do.
>>337177017
Ethos is a big factor. Collectivist slaves seem to be more willing to accept their lot in life, everyone else is varying levels of pissy depending on ethos.
>>337161968
>It takes way too long for anything to happen
>>337162079
>It's not even challenging, just tedious.
FUCKING THIS
ITT; people who cant into 4x games get upset they dont know how to play
Typical /v/
HOLY SHIT HOW DO I GET MORE INFLUENCE WITHOUT PISSING OFF THE ENTIRE GALAXY, FUCK
If Paradox's 4x borefests garner this much shilling and attention at the same time I dread to think what will happen when vtmb 2 comes alogn
>>337177498
ITT: Paradox shills defend a half-finished game.
>>337164076
>10 corvettes is not your fucking starting fleet
wow 10 peasants
>>337177519
Research
>>337177519
Get lucky on social research, a number of them add +1 influence gain. Rival people that rival you anyway for some free influence. That seems to be the only ways.
>>337164696
>He fell for the deep and thought out diplomacy meme
>>337177519
You have to get lucky and get one of the few techs that actually help with it
I fucking hate this game's tech system. I fucking hate this game, in general.
>buying new 4x / grand strat games
I know /v/ is underage as fuck, but everyone in this thread is bitching about Stellaris being barebones when that is EXACTLY what every 4x or grand start game has ever started like. Even SotS empire was disappointing as fuck when it first released.
People comparing games that are half a decade old or more to something that just released and are surprised it has less content.
>>337171794
why is the right side of your area shaded grey?
>>337177968
>it's okay for this game to be a rushed piece of shit, because past games were too!
You know how stupid you sound, right?
I conquered these dudes and they gave me 3 planets but 2 of them have faggots rioting and rebelling all day. How do I deal with this?
>>337177968
So is there a better game that's as easy to get into? Or st least a better game?
I've never played this genre and I'm really liking this so far.
Is xenophobe just bad?
I could just use collectivist if i want slaves, and then converting the slaves to collectivist ethos makes them happy.
Converting alien slaves to xenophobe ethos would just make them even more pissed right?
>>337178080
I never said that, and nor is Stellaris rushed or a piece of shit. Unless you think the entire 4x genre is shit too.
For $40 and what it has now its a fantastic platform for updating. Add in a few months of updates and mods and its going to shit all over other 4x games.
>>337178190
ENSLAVE or PURGE
>>337178219
>So is there a better game that's as easy to get into?
There are better 4x games, but I wouldn't say any of them are easier to get into than Stellaris.
If its your first time into 4x its a really great place to start.
>>337178297
Purging is just mean desu.Unless they're fungoid
>6.3
Can you build bigger energy stores?
>>337178692
Yes, once you research them. Can build bigger mineral stores too.
>>337178297
They're already enslaved
>>337178405
FUCK YOU MY RACE IS FUNGOID
