Is there a more bullshit unit in all of Civ?
>>337138245
Are you saying they shouldn't be the best you fucking problematic racist??!?
You want 30 culture on turn 2, a free pantheon, tech, and worker as well?
Say no more.
>>337138245
>Is there a more bullshit unit in all of Civ?
Ships of the Line?
The game suffered from bad unit balance. Its peaks and valleys, instead of a consistent slow growth.
>>337138424
Beat me to it.
>>337138424
I turn off ruins just because of this shit
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>>337138597
Dont forget the MASSIVE land they get when they found a city.
Is there a more useless unique ability?
>>337139491
It actually gives you positive relative happiness once your city grows big enough, you just gotta be good at growing them.
>>337139491
it's actually great for tall civs. Works well when you only have 2-3 cities, 1-city-challenge or when doing 22 player knife fight in a Tiny size map.
>>337138432
Good thing the Civ community loves making balance patches and immersion mods to lighten the experience.
>>337139491
Barbary Corsairs. Wooo, my fucking triremes can capture shitty barbarian galleys. Its not like every Civ gets the Privateer by the time barbarian pirate ships actually become a problem, right?
Nearly every balance mod I know just outright changes Suleiman's UA, its that bad.
>>337139491
It's not bad, the main con is just that it's bad for annexing cities
>>337139491
The iroquois one.
>unique workshops that are objectively shittier than normal ones because they don't give you +10% hammers
>forest walking is useless because moving from a forest onto a road still takes a full point of movement
>>337139771
When you play tall you literally don't give a shit about happiness anyway.
Sea Beggars
Is there a bigger cunt in all of Civ?
>>337138245
I personally hate Barbarian Handaxes. Fuckers might as well be Impis
>>337139165
as a civ player who mains Shoshone, they have some weaknesses.
the pathfinder is a powerful unit for about 20 turns, if its not upgraded. when other civs start churning out spearmen they get relegated back to explorers
you also NEED goodie huts to make use of them. if you're on an island, or your exploration is cut off by your neighbors, you're SOL and stuck with a warrior that can move two spaces
their commanche riders are not all that impressive. they get 1 extra move compared to other cavalry, which is useful maybe once every 10 rounds of a war
their extra space when founding only helps in 2 situations: your first city will nab most everything around it, and you can settle 2 or 3 spaces away from a resource and still get it instead of having to settle next to it, or having to buy it. but how many cities will you be founding?
>>337139491
>building wide instead of building tall
>>337140357
Have you tried dealing with Washington when you're a warmonger?
>>337140594
well its a good thing they upgrade into composite bowmen
2 composite bowmen is enough to hold off any kind of rush attempt
shoshone OP
>>337140668
>Not building a civil that's wide and tall
>>337140679
Warmongers deserve it desu
>>337140594
Its funny, my friend and I noticed that a lot of the natives have great abilities for starting off, but much like actual history their way of life can't stustain itself throughout history.
They all burn out sometime around the Renaissance era when everyone gets their gunpowder UUs
>>337140357
Alexander is a humongous cunt 99.9% of the time, you're honestly better off having a "warmonger" like Attila or Shaka as your neighbour
>>337140594
I main Shoshone as well and they can lock down a continent with 2-3 settlers. Great Expanse + Defender of The Faith + Himeji Castle + Great Wall = get fucked, Shaka.
>>337140867
It's the only victory type that doesn't involve sitting on your ass
>>337140357
She'll be your bestie if you follow the same religion
as for Population Growth being bad, it actually helps going wide, presuming you can get your new cities to grow fast enough
>>337140357
See
>>337140905
Alexander is the biggest piece of shit every time, and even if he's fucked off to one 3 pop city he still finds a way to gain CS allies
>>337140905
Here's the thing about Shaka, he is maximum brotier.
Yes he's a brutal warmonger, but if you ever get on his good side even once, he will stand by you no matter how much of a Super Hitler you become.
>>337140914
>Great Wall
surprisingly this one is a PITA, but not for the reason you think. It also slows missionaries down to a crawl. I never thought about using it in that manner but the AI's missionaries get zapped before they can get to your cities
>>337140867
the whole warmonger system is broken in this game
>Egypt and Greece invade early game
>defend with a longbow man and city defense
>beat them back as more of my units are getting pumped out
>with their army decimated, walk all the way up through their cities, take or raze them, then take the capital
>everyone denounces me next turn
>>337140905
Anyone focused around CSs can consistently be a fucker. Marie Theresa, Alexander, Enrico Dandolo, all absolute bitches that flip out because you accidentally built a Wonder for one of their Ally states
>Science finding did not pass
>5 yea from your civilization
>30 nay from 7 other civilizations
>>337140905
even his horse has a shit eating grin
>>337141116
This pisses me off a lot.
>>337140357
I literally played my first game of civ last night and I already don't like this stupid cunt
>Germany keeps trying to build near me
>tell them to back off
>they get butthurt even though I've done nothing but try to be friendly with them including giving them money
>they denounce me
>war breaks out with them
>steam roll them
>"alright back to work"
>ISABELLA DENOUNCES YOU
>mfw
>>337141196
WHY DO THEY ALL HATE SCIENCE? WHY?
I hate this shit, I always want to go science funding but;
>Civs that would be angry if you proposed this:
>fucking everyone
>Civs that would be happy
>Korea
>>337140982
>Nuke : 12
>Use Nuke : 12
> level 3 spy
>80% chance of coup success
> failed
> killed in action
I'm gonna throw my computer through a window
>>337141456
they don't hate science. they hate you. remember they're trying to win the game too
>>337141503
A 20% chance of failure is not insignificant dude
>play ethiopia
>they're shit
>>337141657
>better monuments
>shit
>>337141516
Nah, every time I play a match with my friend he goes culture and I go science but they still always hate science
He also is usually higher up on the scoreboard
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>>337138245
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>>337141657
>Himeji Castle, play tall, turtle in, based UU
Eat shit, Tokugawa/Bismark/Washington/Kamehameha
>>337142009
science effects your score directly. culture does not
>>337140357
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>>337141423
Catherine. At least alexander has the decency to backstab you early on in the game where you can put him in his place or take him out entirely, catherine waits till the very end right as you are about to win to get in your way and by then both of you are too big to take each other out
I forget, is there a China-like map? I just added the 3 Kingdoms/Musou Civs and I want to do a 1-city challenge land war game.
>>337142179
>le turtle meme
i did just this as ethiopia in a multiplayer match, even had the great wall of china. still got fucking wrecked by swordsman spam
>>337141116
A defensive genocide is still a genocide. Consider the Iraq-Iran war.
>>337138245
is that an aztec or something. Doesn't seem like a nigger facial wise
of course there is
>turn 3
>ATILLA HAS CAPTURED A CAPITAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhWaufQD9Uo
>>337142256
I don't care about situations like that, I simply care that you have to completely exterminate Alexander or he will never stop the endless coup attempts on your fucking CS allies, fuck this faggot
> Jerusalem wants me to connect gold to my trade network
>Lategame has a bunch of units that all counter each other and perform different roles because of all the wars that inevitably break out there
It's pretty fun a- oh wait, this unit exists.
>>337142770
> has more delegates than everyone else combined
> can bully you to death in the world congress if you don't eliminate him
I think I hate him the most
>>337143017
epeck meme
hello goyim
what is going on this thread xdd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y1y074QcPA
>>337140982
Man Kamehameha such a bro.
I like GSG more.Civ V is fun too. It's just a personal preference.
>>337142938
I personally like to throw down against the AI with WW1/2 era units like Infantry and Tanks until around the 60s (I play Epic pace) when I secure a diplomatic victory Cold War style.
>>337143513
i got the tear down this wall achievement
it was so fucking fun, playing as quad tourism france on real startpos and epic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtYdjbpBk6A
>>337143164
Hello puppet. Has it been too long? Or do the scars of the master's lash still ache?
>>337140594
>as a civ player who mains
Could you fucking kill yourself
>>337143776
>atomic bomb
>why my plane keeps dying down guys wtf
venice never loses on sp
you fucking goy
> will you accept this deal?
> click yes
> I'm sorry that deal will not work
>>337143413
>play as Monty, shooting for Science victory
>Goku and I become bros at around turn 130
>join up to wipe Dido off the map when she inevitably betrays me
>Polynesia willingly takes up my religion
>hit modern era
>I go order, he goes freedom
>World Congress suddenly votes for World Ideology: Freedom
>"No hard feelings, brah"
I mean, I probably should have kept up with my CS allies, but still.
>>337144208
HEY FRIEND LET'S OPEN BORDERS
>>337139491
Your break even point for happiness is pretty low. Like 6 for standard size maps. Lower for bigger maps.
Also, it doubles the effect of local happiness. It's absolutely terrific for going wide, though you will be happiness starved at the beginning.
