>find a material I can sell with a little profit to get myself started earning gil as a new player
>by the end of the day someone else has come in and crashed the price down to 25% of what it is for no fucking reason, every time
Why are people so retarded when it comes to the marketboard? Do they not want money or something?
>>337130806
>Why are people so retarded when it comes to the marketboard? Do they not want money or something?
we will never know, anon, I know your feels
>>337130806
That's just how it works in Vidya games man, because you can't guarantee the quality of a product considering they are all identical, the only edge you can get is to make it cheaper.
>ffxiv community
They either don't care because all they want is make space because lollimit of 20 or bots.
game is dead
desu i'm just looking forward to more inventory slots and the beast tribe rep bonus.
I miss strength accessories on warrior
it made playing as a tank fun
Any truth to nerfing recipes needed for HW crafts?
>>337134147
>>337134203
Is fracture worth using ever?
>>337136072
Yes, on WAR and MNK.
>>337130806
That's why you abuse that shit while you can and then go on to selling things with relatively stable prices. Just a few days ago I was able to make about half a million by selling crafting materials from a vendor at 30% profit for a day before some retards crashed the price to the point where it just isn't worth the effort and retainer space. I did the same thing during the beach event where everyone was crafting those fish things by taking control of the Olive Oil market, driving out the competition for a while and then crashing the market in spite when it was becoming too tedious to manage. I could afford it because I don't rely on quick schemes to make the majority of my gil like some retard. Exploit the market when you see an opportunity, but don't rely on that shit.
>>337136725
my problem is that every time I find something that seems like a decent source of income some monkey comes in and starts selling them in stacks of 30 for like a 90% lower price
>>337136072
Only use Fracture during your Berserk window and it'll usually be the last GCD you use before it wears off. MNK is okay to some degree, but every other job stay the fuck away from Fracture.
>>337136230
why on MNK?
>>337137206
That's what I'm saying. The prices for a lot of things fluctuate greatly and flooding the market is a surefire way to attract competitors who will drive the price down. Sell a stack of two of a thing that looks like it's going to make money and the moment you put that shit on sale, start looking for a new thing to sell. If you want to make a lot of money as a gatherer, you pretty much need to get to 60 and start doing aetherial reduction. Shards, crystals and clusters have pretty stable prices as do the different kinds of aethersand. At 50 you can make some money by gathering shit from unspoiled nodes since a lot of those materials are used for 50+ recipes and supply is limited so there will always be demand for them. They won't make you filthy rich, but they will earn you a decent amount of gil.
>>337137643
More DPS as long as your TP can sustain it and you don't drop DK/twin snakes.
I'm getting my SMN to 60 and it feels really fucking weak
It's like I'm chipping things to death while DRGs and BLMs take off visible chunks with each hit, I don't get it
So has the "all Paladins are shit" meme died yet?
>>337138026
No one gives a shit, WoWfugee.
>>337138146
not until they stop being shit
>>337138193
What?
>>337138026
you'll start seeing chunks come off when you get Painflare. and then bigger chunks when you get Dreadwyrm Trance. And then there won't be chunks left when you get Deathflare
>>337138026
Its a DoT based class. All DoT based classes feel that way. Your damage adds up to be impressive overall though, but only one targets that live for a while.
>>337138026
Keep in mind, your dots and shadowflare do 135 potency, your pet does 100, and as your filler you're doing 80
you effectively doing ~300 potency of damage every global cooldown. That's on par with most classes. Then you get 3 Festers and a Deathflare every 1 minute interval.
>>337130806
1: all eggs in one basket will not make you rich in FFXIV. materials are too accessible
2: sell things in singles or 'effective' stacks. for example, you need 3 or 5 chunks of ore to make ingots, so sell them in 3 or 5 or whatever is appropriate. if a stack of something is selling for 200 each, you can probably sell a single for 500 each
3: see those hard to make items that cost millions of gil to make and sell for more? avoid those until you're to the point where gil is a high score. Focus on consumables or materials like inks, ingots, processed lumber, and sell them individually. crafted items like armor or furniture sell slower, so don't make 10 of them and flood your own market
>>337138146
PLD has been shit since 2.1 and it always will be.
>wait in queue forever for Ramuh EX
>finally ready up
>people attacking while tethered
>eating orbs when they're not supposed to
>general death everywhere
>get real fucking close on the last attempt but other MNK used the lb instead of our living healer
I've never felt so disappointed before.
>two autistic cringelords join my fc
>shit up fc chat with their reared blogging and general faggotness
>can't debate whether to kick them for being faggots or let them stay in hopes that everyone will continue ignoring them and they can leave
Which should I do lads?
>>337139587
>Queuing for Ramuh EX
Just Party Finder that shit and do it unsynced you nerd
>>337130806
Because I already have more money than god.
I just hate seeing you make anything at all.
>>337139851
Do the other guys in your FC hate them?
Discuss that first, and kick them out if they do. People like that often don't leave when ignored and double their efforts to get noticed instead.
>>337137643
1) Cleans up timers ensuring that every second ToD will be buffed by IR regardless of skill speed and every third Demolish by B4B
2) Is a DPS increase equivalent to having a dragoon in the party assuming 1 fracture/minute
3) Gives you an option to press when a positional isn't available instead of idling on GCD
>>337140101
Yup they do, we're a small FC of just 6 people. 5/6 hate their guts and the last guy never talks in fc chat so we assume he doesn't give 2 shits either way
>>337130806
This whole games markeboard is just fucked with retarded people I know how you feel. This shit happens everytime.
> Items usually go at 200k
> Some fuck decides to place it for 80k
What the fuck
>>337139851
>join a linkshell
>everyone there is cool except some autistic chick who NEVER stops talking
>shes friends with some other people there and Im new to the ls so I dont want to start shit
>got invited to her wedding
help me
prob just not going log in all weekend
>>337140409
I just get sick of people undercutting me by like ten gil. I'd rather sell my slow selling items like, unpopular V materia cheaply and quickly rather than just get undercut for days. Need to replenish my transmutable stash somehow
>>337130806
That's why I sell glamour prisms, little effort, my retainers bring me the materials and I don't spend a single gil on anything
When's SAM
When's RDM
>>337141505
>>337141505
RDM never because there would be no point to it
SAM gonna be a shit tank so y u care
>>337141982
Because I'm just weeb enough to be a sucker for samurai every time.
fuck ninjas.
>>337130806
Supply and demand; basic economics. Don't complain because people aren't willing to buy your stuff when others offer the same for cheaper.
>>337142138
>acting like real economies and vidya economies are comparable
You're not serious. No one in reality is going to start a business and undercut their competition by 500% just to be stupid and impatient.
That kind of shit happens in games because people just don't care about monopoly money.
>>337142667
Actual businesses do that all the time. Especially major ones that need to undercut competitors. Hell, look at the modern price of oil as a perfect example. Drive the prices down, put most of the competition out of business, and ride the all time highs that will result.
>>337142667
If people keep undercutting by 500 %, then the demand is probably lower than the supply. You should also realize that low prices isn't just a negative, you too would benefit if you ever bought something.
>tfw can't get more than 90% performance in a5-a7s
>>337130806
this reminds me of EVE online
if you get the market right for events you could become stinking rich
I love market forces in video games, I played one online match of battleforge, but I spent countless hours playing the market
>>337143192
Except doesnt work on smaller servers where theres less people to buy items in general to stabilize prices
>>337143116
Of course undercutting happens, I never said otherwise, but businesses don't wantonly drive prices down by unexplainable amounts for no apparent reason. Walmart is constantly trying to undercut it's competition, but it's by literal pennies, not by bizarre percentages. And oil prices are determined by several other factors aside from supply and demand.
>>337143192
Not always in these games, people will just randomly lower prices for no apparent reason even when stuff is selling fine at the current price. OP was asking why this happens, and the only explanation I can think of is people just don't care. Many players are probably just temporarily getting involved in the market and don't intend to be full time crafters so they don't care about how their actions affect the economy.
>working on A8S with friends
>no urge to do anything outside of raiding
I used to be addicted to leveling alts in other MMOs. Why does it feel like such a drag on this game?
branded for life
>>337144040
How does it not work?
>>337144046
>people will just randomly lower prices for no apparent reason even when stuff is selling fine at the current price.
And in a free market people are perfectly allowed to do that. It benefits the buyers; it may not benefit those who want to sell the item at a higher price. This is just something you have to deal with.
>>337144438
Because alts are a major pain in this game by design.
Having to pay extra for characters in the same server. No shared storage between characters. So much content being locked behind the lengthy main story.
>>337144438
Because there's nothing to do other than Savage. SE killed Diadem instead of making it good, if the Dankest Dungeon in 3.3 isn't the tits, game's gonna lose another 50k subs.
>>337143631
>Tfw your team is too shit to do the good strats so everyone parses better
fucking apes
>>337144774
Of course people are allowed to do that, but use your head. If you open a shoe store are you going to undercut your competitors by 500% to the point where you are undermining your own profit potential for no reason whatsoever? Unless you're crazy or stupid, no you aren't, you'd undercut them by a much more sensible amount if that's what you intend to do. When people are trying to make a living for real they don't do stupid things like that. In a game it's play money and they're just trying to make a quick buck to upgrade their gear or whatever, so it's much more likely to happen. They're not comparable motives or situations.
>>337144774
unless youre on a big server then stuff isnt going to sell fast even if you undercut by onsane amounts
there no reason to lob off 90% of a competetors price when the item sells maybe once or twice a day regardless of price
I have yet to do a single PvP match in this game. Combat in this game seems like it would be too jank for PvP.
>>337130806
Never got into this but I made fuck tons of gil in final fantasy XI auction house.
