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>Release after 1 frame
>After 1 frame
>Release after a 1/6 second.
Why is this allowed?
Why are fighting games so stupidly hard?
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Why are you playing drying paint fighter 5?
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>>337122884
>press f, d, d+f+1 within a small window of frames
>press d+f+1 on the same frame
Not even hard, cannot imagine how Akira's faggotknee can be tough.
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>>337122884
You "scrape" your thumb or index finger across the edge of the G button. It's not that hard to do with some practice.
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>>337123741
It doesn't work, I tried.
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>>337122884
Try playing Scrub Fighter V. Seems to be more your type of game.
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>>337123819
VF5FS Akira is easier than ever man I'm not sure what to say. Pick Taka-Arashi instead.
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>>337124279
If I wanted to play a fat fuck I would have played Tekken.
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>>337123932
Oh, fuck off Anon.
I SERIOUSLY fucking doubt you are so good at fighting games (or videogames in general) to discard Street Fighter as a scrubs game.
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>>337123932
A better game then ded drying paint fighter
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>>337122884
Its a hard as shit move to do especially on pad, dont worry too much about it as you dont actually need to do the move. Alot of people just use it to show off.
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>>337122884
Welcome to VF5, one of the most technical fighters out there. Too bad it's dead everywhere, goddammit.
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>>337125043
I need to, to punish blocked low attacks.
And it's also the fastest launcher for Akira.

Akira is underpowered, I got no way to punish lows, or attack from long range.

I need that fucking KNEE.
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>>337122884
>1/6 second.
Nigga, it's 1/60 of a second. Enjoy.
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Same problem with him in DoA's command training. Just few moves to get that fucking trophy. So close with Ryu's senko izuna hold and Hayate's raijin throw. Sitting in ''the thinker'' position with blank stare on the screen. No problem with any of USF4, SFV and MKXL moves.
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>>337125308
in DoA it's not even 1 frame.
If you can't do the knee in DoA, just give up playing Akira.
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VF isn't even good. Tekken and Soul Calibur are the only good 3D fighters and Soul Cal is dead and Tekken 7 is NEVER EVER status.
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>>337122884
is the knee even used in practical play
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How can you seriously release something after 1 frame? How do you guarantee that you didn't release after 2 frames? There is literally no difference
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>>337125334
>SFV
>Same tier as SFxT
>SFxT in any tier other than sin tier

Someone's never played a fighting game before
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>>337125537
Tell that to someone who owns a 980
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>>337125558
I agree SFV should be lower
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>>337125334
>MK2 in low tier

OK, now i mad
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>>337125537
There are execution techniques that help you do that with a stick. You just touch the border of the button with a sliding motion. It's tough.
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>>337125334
>no melty
Its shit
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>>337125334
>Bloody Roar 3 in Top Tier
I've never played, is it that good?
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>>337125334
>sf4
>good
Fuck outta here man
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>>337125750
Why would mortal combat 2 be in anything other than low?
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>>337125998
this list is all over the place so I wouldn't take it to heart
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>>337123819
It does work, you're just not doing it right.
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>>337122884
>1/6 second
That's 10 frames
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>>337125334

>vampire savior

Literally what?
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>>337125334
>3rd strike top tier
and that's how you know it's a meme list
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>>337126453
Darkstalkers 3
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>>337126453
>Doesn't know what Vampire Savior is

Literally underage
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>>337125334
Looks pretty accurate to me, dont see any major flaws
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>>337125334
No UNIEL?
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>>337125334
Soul Calibur V goes below II and III.
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>>337126773
>Soul Calibur V goes below II and III.
LOL

No
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>>337125334
DoA 5 definitely has deeper fighting mechanic than UMVC3 and KI. And is fun to play.
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>>337126773
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fighting g games are fucking retarded. I used to enjoy them as a child when I could button mash but I try playing them now and I realise you need to do 4000 button combos to do anything g other than punch. no fucking way am I gonna spend hours memorising all those combos like a little bitch
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>>337125334
>Last Blade 2
>Low tier
>All those fucking Bloody Roar games in high tiers
>No Bushido Blade
>No Samsho
>No Karnovs
>No Windjammers

List made by someone with brain damage.
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>>337127210
Try Smash.
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>>337126773
in the single player department, sure.
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>>337127210
Just like with anything else in your life. Effort sucks man, why not just choose instant gratification.
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>>337127553
>>337127496
Why are you responding to bait.
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>>337127301
>Last Blade 2
>Low tier
Exactly where it should be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX2F7SS420Q

Guess getting hit by all those infinites gave you brain damage. :^)
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>>337122884
"Don't think, feel...." - Bruce Lee

becuase you are not supposed to think, but to FEEL


once you get the move, you will get the feel for it and will start to do it without even thinking abou the FRAMES
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>>337127210

You probably don't like chess either, or Go, or anything that takes effort.
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>>337127496
smash is alright I can play smash. its the only fighting game I can still enjoy these days and actually be competitive in

>>337127553
but it's just a game and all that's gonna happen is im gonna spend 100 hours learning the combos, go online and still get completely stomped by an autist who does literally nothing but play street fighter all year. it would be a waste of time
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>>337127981
>Chess
>Effort

I want this meme to end. Chess is literally "learn all your fucking openings, learn how to deal with the literal 3 fucking tactics people who actually know how to play chess ever use, try t psych out your opponent"

Sure you have to be decent at rote memorization and adapt to your opponent, but it's not rocket science. Also you will never be a GM unless you are literally autistic, because the game favors the ability to be a computer.

>b-but it isn't solved!

A computer will still fuck you up in 99.999% of matches.
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>>337127981
it's just a pain in the ass to learn all the combos. especially when the combos do different things for different characters. its a lot to take in when I just wanna play a game

I'm a fan of the tony hawks games and still play them but that's only because I learnt all the combos when I was 12 years old and had nothing better to do. If I was picking up the tony hawks games for the first time today I probably wouldn't fucking bother
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>>337126531

Literally maybe 100 people have played that game
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>>337128409
>>Chess
>>Effort
>I want this meme to end

>proceeds to elaborate on why Chess takes a lot of effort
I fear I don't follow anon
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>>337128480
You must be 18 or older to post here
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>>337128550

It's not a lot of effort to learn your openings and the basic meta at all, you can read a book, play 30 matches against non-retards and you'll be golden.

The rest is all talent/autism, and no amount of training will help you.
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>>337128479
You are complaining about the easiest thing in fighting games. Combos become muscle memory, infact most things become muscle memory.
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>>337122884
in akira's case, he's intentionally the best character in the game so the devs made his optimal shit hard.

with the knee you can actually scrape the block button and hold kick. once you get used to the motion its not so bad
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>>337128019

This is going to be inaccessible to you, given that you don't really enjoy mastering complex systems, but playing complex games exercises your ability to analyze situations, come up with solutions, and feel rewarded for your grit. A healthy dose of problem solving oriented gameplay can become a safe place to explore new perspectives and practice your reasoning skills. The particular skills of a game or another may not be applicable in real life, but the understanding that success requires effort, and the resiliency to keep trying despite failure, can make you life more fulfilling.

One day you too will know this feeling, and cherish it.
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>>337125334
Good list
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>>337122884
That's the price you play for having a power character that isn't a slow gimped retard.
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>>337127210
>4000 button combos
SCRUBS
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>>337125334
Where the fuck is Xrd and why SG is so high?
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>>337128852
but it takes a lot of time if you want to learn all the different moves for different characters. it takes time for things to become muscle memory. and for what? to get wrecked by somebody with a $300 fight stick and a bottle of piss under his desk? i could spend that time doing something more worthwhile, such as learning an instrument or staring at a wall
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>>337129612
its either an uninformed or troll list
mvc2/3s/garou/ being listed at top is a dead giveaway
these are games casuals worship but don't actually play competitively
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>>337129612
>le SG is bad meme XD
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>>337129636
why not build a wall instead of staring at it. Anyway what games are you playing where it's so hard to learn all the moves? Games like Tekken and VF have very simple moves and then extensions to them. And you will narrow down what works as you play or watch other people play.

Games like SF already have the move lists narrowed down so it's already easier and you don't have to worry about moves that track left or right like in 3D fighters.

Pro players use pad just find so if you think a fight stick will make you good then think again. Just think of it as a luxury.
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>>337130152
so you agree since you have no rebuttal
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>>337125334
Accurate
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>ctrl+f 1/60
>1 found
Only one person calling OP out on 1/6th of a second goes to show how shitty this board has become.
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>>337130152
I didn't say it. I had fun with SG, it brought me into the genre but it is really mid-tier.
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>>337122884
>Why are fighting games so stupidly hard?
they aren't, you just picked an overly complicated one

wait until you realize the amount of combo variations and combo timing variations you have to use to viably play in a tourney
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>>337130198
>Offer no argument
>Claim opposition has no rebuttal
Classic /v/ shitter
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>>337125334
Fuck off nerd
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>>337128019
> no fucking way am I gonna spend hours memorising all those combos like a little bitch

>smash is alright I can play smash. its the only fighting game I can still enjoy these days and actually be competitive in

You're retarded if you actually think you can be competitive in smash without learning a lot of stupidly fast inputs.
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>>337125334
If those are the contenders for top tier fighting games, melee truly is the best ever seen.
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>>337130368
You offer no argument against the claim that Skullgirls is bad so you bring nothing to the discussion. I chose to target you out of ALL the replies to the bait tier list because I know Skullgirls is a worse MvC, which isn't great either.
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>>337130694
Just because you dont know how to play fighting games doesn't make it bait.
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Ono should have released Ingrid in the initial V. Guaranteed for 2 million copies goalpost reached with Japan sales alone.
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>>337125334
Spot on
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>>337130182
I tried playing Tekken tag the other day for the first time in like 13 years and I took one look at jack's move list and thought "fuck this". Its just kinda overwhelming. I don't know man, I really enjoyed fighting games as a kid it was my fav genre I would play everything and spend hours unlocking all the characters but as an adult I don't know if I can enjoy them the same. They seem to require a heavy amount of time input before you can get any enjoyment out of them and idk if it's worth it

If u can recommend some fighting games that are easier to learn or have less moves that would be cool. I haven't played a street fighter for a while so I can't remember what the move list is like exactly

>>337130397
I can play smash online and not get pissed on. The last time I played street fighter online it was a complete waste of time
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>>337131467
Oh, Smash 4. Ok, carry on.
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>>337130096
>mvc2/3s/garou/ being listed at top is a dead giveaway

This is the only correct answer. Ebin parry waiting game simulator being up there is another.
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>>337131981
>replying to yourself
Thats just sad, man.
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Does someone have good VF webms?

I like the animation in this game.
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>>337131467
All i know is Tekken and i can know at least 5 characters with varying degrees of knowledge. That doesn't mean i know 700 moves but instead i just narrowed down moves that work the best.

Just find out what moves work as good punishment against most other moves and your already on your way. Learning the exact move that has just the right amount of frames to punish another move is just silly. Keep it simple and you learn things by playing against the AI.

Keep in mind that you havent even tried.

> I took one look at jack's move list and thought "fuck this"

Go through his movelist once or twice

make up some random combos for when you can use them.

Find your good punishers.

That's how you can start learning a character and it works every time for me.
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>>337132493
ok thank u ill probably give tekken another try
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>>337131467
>and I took one look at jack's move list
A lot of Tekken's movelist shows you combinations of shorter command moves, it's not as intimidating as it looks. I wish they would drop those 5-10 completely useless dial-a-combos they have at the end of every character's command list though, that shit actually is misleading for newcomers

Like with every other fighter, just figure out your go-to buttons and go from there
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>>337125334
>all these babies mad because their shitty obscure fighter didn't make it to high tier
It has a couple of questionable games and placings here and there, but otherwise it is spot on.
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