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Will FPS ever be good again?
You can try that Unreal Tournament they put out recently. Its as close to a new arena shooter as you'll ever get because people nowadays grew up playing MW2 and now quake 3 arena
>>337092739
No, in their desperation to get the next big thing and to reinvent the genre, devs have lost sight in what makes FPS fun and enjoyable and now spend far too much time on superfluous features and ignoring the basics.
>>337092739
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>>337093397
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>>337093662
>implying Modern Warfare 2 or Titanfall are bad games
>>337092739
Deathwing looks promising
>>337093697
All he implied at these aren't arena shooters. Which is true
It's like a subgenre in itself
>>337092739
Reflex, UT2014, so forth exist.
Stop bitching that Halo killed PC shooters in 2004 and actually PLAY YOUR FUCKING GAMES.
>>337093839
meant "was that these aren't"
>>337093839
>It's like a subgenre in itself
>>337093878
>Stop bitching that Halo killed PC shooters in 2004
Who even says that? The real bridge to the way things are today was COD4. I don't even mind cod clones btw
I fucking wish game as wacky and unrealistic as the first few Halos came out more often. I guess Doom fits the mold?
>>337093878
Reflex has no players, UT was never good
>>337092739
i'm just waiting for the turok 2 remaster so i can have more than 5 people to play with
>>337093697
>MW2
Poster child for what I was talking about. They hit gold with Modern Warfare, then added so much useless pointless shit and didn't focus on keeping the gameplay balance and enjoyable. Most games ended up just camping spawns with killstreak rewards or getting camped by killstreaks.
>Titanfall
Did anyone even play that after the first month? Shit died quicker than most "big" FPS. Shit even Planetside 2 lasted longer.
>>337093924
>implying arena shooters are not an autistic niche of regular FPS
It's like the distinction between SF and Smash. That COD in elimination mode has people shooting eachother in an environment and respawning doesn't make it an arena shooter
>>337093878
Reflex has worse graphics than Warsow. Please don't bring that joke of a game up.
>>337094182
>Most games ended up just camping spawns with killstreak rewards or getting camped by killstreaks.
get some friends and get good, /r9kunt/
>Shit died quicker than most "big" FPS
not on consoles
>>337094063
>The real bridge to the way things are today was COD4
Wrong. It was either the Action Quake 2 mod or Counter Strike. That is what kicked off the military shooter and put arena shooters in the grave.
>>337093924
Of course you stopped reading there, it was the last thing he wrote, ya dip.
Ever be good again? Yes.
Wolfenreboot was great. Serious Sam 3 was great. The new DOOM is honestly great if you're not assblasted as fuck. Killing Floor 2 is fun as hell if you ignore Tripwire being lazy as fuck. Tribes Ascend was good while it lasted. Rainbow Six Siege was as fun as SWAT 4 but died hard.
But will it ever be AS good? Lol no, never.
>>337094301
From the videos I have seen Reflex and Warsow both seem to play 90-95% like Quake 3/Live so what is even the point of them?
There are people on /v/ who've never played a proper FPS
https://youtu.be/msbZoKTKRrM
>>337094491
But CS is esoteric and "old" as fuck compared to the COD formula, which is every other shooter these days. CS gameplay itself has not spawned many imitators othen than superficial lifts of its vague tacticool aesthetic
The storm of cod clones are all post-COD4. A game like ET Quake Wars released the same year and meant to be huge, that's how different it was back then
>>337094675
Why would I when I can spend time learning to actually shoot guns?
>>337094637
Reflex allows you to toggle on wallhax and you can spend $50 on in-game items even tough the game is still early access
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPcKhuFHwN4
>>337094428
Are you a moron or did you not read the first part of that sentence you quoted?
More often than not, I was the one doing the camping. Got boring extremely quickly.
>not on consoles
see pic
>>337092739
No. CS:S is and will be the final FPS to ever be good.
>>337094673
Someone points out your mistake.
>"b-back to r-reddit with y-you"
>>337093771
>>337094617
this. the new doom ain't an arena shooter but who expected it to be honestly. I could really go for a new arena shooter tho. till then quake ut and tribes still have active communitites on their last good versions so who cares.
also reminder that arena vs militiary shooters is apples to oranges. its a matter of preference
>>337094839
Nah, that goes to F.E.A.R.
>>337094762
No. I was around for all of this shit when it went down and when the concept of realistic movement speed and a couple shots taking someone down was introduced back with the Action quake 2 mod and popularized with CS it changed everything. There is no real difference between CoD and CS at their roots.
>>337094301
it has good gameplay though
>>337095019
>item timers
>good gameplay
LMAO, is that you newborn?
>>337094983
There's no way I'm wrong if I say FEAR is still underrated as fuck, right? On here it gets a lot of circle-jerking, but it was brushed over pretty hard considering Bioshock, DOOM 3 and Half-Life 2 released around the same time.
>>337092739
if you elect donald trump it will
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWRiMGd16Ho
>>337095173
>"rogue-like"
>procedurally generated levels
>>337095173
>With roguelike progression!
And Droooooopped
>>337095069
forgot about that, but everything else is good pretty much
>>337095173
This looks like a fucking DS game playing in an emulator. Some of the guns looks neat at least. Get back to me when it's not le roguelike and procedural
>>337094839
>>337094983
Quake 3 was the last great FPS though
>>337095329
Q3 was bretty gud
You do fucking realise that all those old games still exist right?
Exactly what could a new game bring that wouldn't result in you complaining that "ITS NOT EXACTLY LIKE QUAKE 3/UNREAL"?
The only reason why people don't make games like those any more is because YOU don't fucking play them/they already exist and there's no reason to make them again.
Supposedly you aren't as stupid as COD fucks who buy the same game every year, so you should be happy with the shit you already have. It's pretty much perfect, and no matter what comes out, you won't be happy because it's not as good as what you already have, and yet, you refuse to play what you already have.
Fucks sakes. You wanna play good games than just play them. Just because it's old doesn't mean anything. You have enough good games to last a lifetime. You don't NEED to be up to date with all the other shit.
>>337095173
there is 1 enemy type in the entire game
>>337094582
hey your post made me make a silly laughing sounds here it is
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1fQTt7HSxvv
>>337095423
And what if we want to play the same game on an engine that isn't 15-20 years old? or with modern features like ranked match-making?
>>337092739
Killing Floor 2 was great before Tripwire decided to stop caring
>>337095496
>muh graphics
>muh ranks
fuck off that shit literally does not fucking matter.
>>337095496
Asking for too much. It's too much of a risk for publishers.
>>337095173
>early 2017
jesus, really?
>>337092739
no you should kill yourselfwhat are you looking for in a shooter
>>337095496
If the engine type and ranked matchmaking is the only thing stopping you from playing old games, they you're the kind of person who does not give a shit about games at all and are probably a turbo casual who would drop the game after one year because "le graphics are 2 old now"
Please go back to COD/battlefield.
>>337092739
Yeah, probably.
It will never be the "wild west" of Doom and Quake again, but good games will still be made.
I have high hopes for Serious Sam 4, they made some bad design choices with 3 but I believe they can make the games 10/10 again.
Rip Project Free Fall
https://youtu.be/UO8EC8EgXOk
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>>337095238
>Not liking a shooter you can play over and over again without it becoming stale
>inb4 "procedural generation is stale" meme
>>337096136
Name a game with good level design that is procedural generation
Is Quake live worth the 10 dollarydoos
https://www.playmidair.com/
This is the future of FPS games. Arenashit just won't do in this day and age.
Kids today are growing up on ADHD pills and garbage shit like doter and cod. They don't have the patience or ability to master games like old arena shooters.
>>337098692
Literally Tribes. They even ripped off the Spinfusor and the blue plate sound effect.
>>337096932
absolutely not
>>337095000
I don't care if you were "around" back then, because you've obviously been retarded your entire life.
>>337094176
PUMP
ACTION
DOUBLE
BARREL
SHOTGUN
MOTHER
FUCKER
>>337093697
>Modern Warfare 2
>coming up on being a 7 year old game
>>337096932
maybe
>>337092739
Since Overwatch turned out to be shit, our last hope is Diabotical: Fps Reborn, as it's clear UT4 won't get a sizable player base. At least Quake Live is still playable.
>>337096136
>Not liking a shooter you can play over and over again without it becoming stale
I already have DOOM and tens of thousands of WADs I've yet to try over at /idgames/
No.
>>337100889
I know one of the guys working on it. He told me that it's just going to be a bunch of pre-existing rooms connected together randomly.
>>337096205
That's a trick question. By definition, a game that uses procedural generation doesn't have level design in the traditional sense.
>>337092739
Check out "midair"
Its basically tribes.
