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>People think she is shit How bad at the game are you?
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>People think she is shit

How bad at the game are you?
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>>337085474
It's ironic she says "nerf this," when she ults.
I'll bet it's one of the first things nerfed.
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>>337085474
She isn't shit. She just needs to be tinkered with/fixed a bit.
Biggest, and honestly the only big thing about her is her ult.
That's not good.
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>>337085597
Probably not. Once you see it just run away, the radius isn't that large
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>>337085823
I just wish they would make the explosion look bigger so that it actually matches the splash range.
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>>337085474
>Worlds biggest crit zone in the universe
>On the front of her mech
>That's also distinctly colored different
>With pea shooters

She has great mobility and all that but jesus that just makes her effectively have as much hp as edge man of many shotguns.
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>>337085597

Bastion, Widowmaker and Tracer are probably going to get nerfs first.

Also stacking, they need to have a one hero each gametype and crazy mode as well for fags.
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>>337086032

I think if you are using her correctly she is a very effective anti-sniper and just general low health sweeper.

Against anything high health or even turret dudes she sucks monkey balls.
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>>337086182
>All these people complaining about multi-hero stacks just get met with "but it's part of the game design! Keep giving me that cock blizzard!"
>Even though there are blatantly obvious stacks that are just retarded like Soldier 76 and supposedly Tojborn and Bastion on some maps.
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>>337086182
>Bastion
Blizzard and people who aren't scrubs agree that Bastion isn't OP.

Git gud.
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>"tank"
>fastest dying character in the game unless you go full meme
The worst part is that nobody will take an actual tank without the warning
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>p- please, blizbliz?! nerf this character so I stop going negative!
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>>337086276
she is not that good at anti sniping and defense picks if you want that just pick winston. she is good at siege breaking with her ult and thats about it
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>>337085474
I don't think she's bad, but she definitely not great. Her range is really bad that more characters can beat her if they're rare enough but at least she can close the gap fairly easily
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Favorite character by far. Just as good without the suit
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>>337085474
I don't understand it either. Her defense matrix is one of the most god tier abilities in the game and I don't think people realize you can use it for things that aren't aimed at you.
See that Mcree that just got hooked? Point your defense matrix at him and watch as he fucks that dumbass roadhog up.
See that pharah that just ulted? Watch as her missles explode in mid air.
Not to mention that she can regain full health and cause a giant explosion by using her ult.
And she has 550 hp which is the second highest in the game. Even after her mech gets destroyed she can still fuck people up with that pistol.
On top of that her rocket boost is pretty great for knocking down snipers and pushing people off the map on top of getting to god flanking routes.
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>gookshit
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>>337088684
her tool kit isn't bad at all.

but the 550 health means a lot less when you consider the size and location of her crit box. She also does absolutely mediocre damage even right up at close range. Roadhog has great damage, Wintson's weapon fills a niche by hit everything in its cone and going through barriers, Zarya gets great damage if she's using her shields effectively. But D.va shotguns are so bad her pistol is more effective
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D VA is my tank main. She is just great at hit and running and fucking up defenses.
This got me Play of the Game
https://youtu.be/g4xxIWW1vZA
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>>337085474
I hate her because no matter how good you are, how sick the moves you got, even if you play crucial role in the match and bring your team to victory, this little shit ALWAYS gets best moment for LEL CHARGE ULTI -4 I PLAY TO WIN even if that's her only contribution to the game.
Other than that, she's a pretty solid character
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are we getting new game modes in the final version?
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>Play Mei
>Ice wall

lel
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>>337088213
she is good at anti sniping because she can just fly up to nests and gun them down. I do this regularly in games, winston is also good for this but his ult is the shittiest in the game.

>>337088684
Dva is also really good at killing roadhog, winston is shit at killing roadhog and any high health enemy.

>>337086384
Bastion is overpowered on defense because you can just plop down and point at targets to kill pretty much anyone in 3 seconds, made even worse with reinhart or fuckin toblerone bastion combos.
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She is actually shit. I am decent with her and can get lost of gold medals easily with her, but that doesn't change the fact that she is shit.
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>>337089232
>This got me Play of the Game
Wow dude you should be proud of getting POTG when literally pressing Q gives potgm fucking faggot
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>>337086182
>bastion
>nerf

future bronzy in overwatch ranked spotted
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>>337086384
>Blizzard agrees that the character Blizzard made isn't overpowered

This is one of the most retarded statements I've read on this site.
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>>337085474
Just got 5 gold medals on KOTH with D.Va

She's amazing, but you really need to understand that your mech is both only good in close-range and totally expendable. Her pistol is amazing at killing and harassing enemies at medium and long range and by doing so she gets another mech almost immediately.

Use her jets and defense matrix to get point blank, then blast away, and when your mech gets destroyed run away while taking potshots. As long as you don't overextend and you have teammates nearby you'll be fine.

It's also worth pointing out that the jets allow you to push enemies, so it's quite easy to use them to get environment kills.
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>mfw playing Reinhardt and I hear NERF THIS
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>>337089407
>Q
Clearly says Triangle :^)
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>>337086276
I find that she's really good against Roadhog since you can easily flank him and waste all his shots only to point blank shotgun him to death in a second since his headshot area is about as large as her mech's.
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>>337085474
I love D.Va but she seriously need a buff. Takes too much damage while making very little damage. Range is also shit. Shield is great but it's the worse of all tanks. Booster needs a second or two or damage upon collision.

Her pilot form is a lot better than the mech, wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard makes a character around this.

D.Va is great but you can't get her full potential with a bad team. Offensive/defensive characters can play alone just fine, but D.Va needs backup to cover the areas she's lacking.
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has a symmetry ever got potg?
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>>337086361
>playing defense on that japanese stage with the 2 captures
>we have 2 bastions, a tor, a lucio, and a widowmaker
>go Reinhardt
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>>337085597

It's ironic because it needs to be buffed. Once you get higher in the MMR ranks on matchmaking it becomes nearly impossible to kill anyone with her ult because anyone semi-competent sees it coming a mile away and just steps behind a wall or payload.
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Check my PotG, lads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhbjaOept4s
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>>337089232
>playing a fps on consoles
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I've been enjoying Winston's ability to get behind people and go bananas on the enemy's healers.
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>>337089232
Rofl, you were playing literally against retards. I'd be ashamed of posting a shitty play like that.
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>D.Va
>shit

D.Va is fucking ridiculous.

>Huge health pool
>Shield lets you block all projectiles
>Flying acts a battering ram and gets her across the map fast
>Ultimate is the best crowd clearing tool in the game, has insane kill radius, she can launch it while flying and just bomb the enemy team
>Mech comes back very quickly
>Still does insane damage when out of her mech thanks to her pistol
>fast and hard to hit

Anyone who thinks D.Va is anything less than A tier is fucking stupid.
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>>337089571
I honestly just use her ult for forcing people away from an area so my teammates can mop up or I can pick one or two off in the panic.
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>>337089571
payload doesnt block it anymore
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>>337089639
This. I underestimated the fucking monkey, he destroys by just leaping in, dropping shield, and gunning everyone before leaping out.
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>>337089358
>Bastion is overpowered on defense because you can just plop down and point at targets to kill pretty much anyone in 3 seconds

Don't be in his sights for 3 seconds, noob. Send in Pharah or Junkrat to play peek-a-boo with their explosives. He won't hit them and he'll either die or be forced to move, then you can run in when he's in Scout mode.
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>>337089656
>still does insane damage with her pistol
kek
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>>337089414
if you are good with bastion you can pretty much kill anyone because of his magic machine gun in recon mode, amazing turret mode, insta self heal and ult.

He is too good of an all around hero and is easily one of the most overpowered heroes in this game.

Also Zarya, people think she is a lesbian and general stupid ass looking character but she is also overpowered at the moment as well.
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>>337086384
Game is balanced around pubstomps not "pro league"
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>want to like D. Va because of the whole mech thing
>her main weapon slows her down to an insane crawl when used
It feels completely counter-intuitive considering how mobile she is.
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>>337085474
She has an enormous headbox and can barely kill anyone in a straight up fight without being brought down to ~100 hp. She seriously can't accomplish anything on her own without a support babysitting her unlike the other tanks, and if she's your tank a support would be better off healing your damage dealers anyway. Her only use is her ultimate.
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How long until we reach the Reinhardt Phalanx meta?
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>>337089740
He is still extremely powerful in recon mode if played by a person that can aim. His machine gun is more powerful than solder 76.
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>>337089831
Pretty sure that's Bastion + Reinhardt on a payload map against disorganized teams.
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>>337089861

Yeah, but he's also still very killable. When there's a Bastion I just pick Pharah and kill them every time.
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>>337089232
WOW such skill! upvoted and liked
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>>337085474
>people think she needs to do DPS
I hate this, shes perfectly fine. Shes tanky, blocks shots and stops pushes, shes a tank not a DPS
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>>337089831
I've already ran this shit, and it's insane.

3 stacked Rein on the payload with a Torb turret on front and a Bastion on top, and Lucio just passive healing inside. It wasn't until they brought in a Winston that they kicked us off, and by then it was too late.
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>>337085474
POST EM BOIS
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>>337089656
>Huge health pool
Countered by having the easiest to hit and biggest headshot box

>Ultimate is the best crowd clearing tool in the game
If you said it was an area denial ult it would be ok, but you can't kill anybody with her ult except on very specific situations or comboing with another ults

>hard to hit
Maybe if you are playing on a console

>Still does insane damage when out of her mech thanks to her pistol
With no skills to use, and a shitty hp pool, she loses to literally anyone in a 1x1 situation except for mercy.

Shes bad to ok at best.
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>>337090023

Zero Suit D.va is pretty good at DPS, though. I love running around and racking up kills out of the suit. Or when some Reinhardt runs in and spends half his lifebar killing my suit, then I just pop out and finish him off and keep on rolling.
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>>337089626

>Playing FPS on PC
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>>337085474
>dies as aggro tank and becomes a decent assault
>flyan towards bastion and soaking up his bullets
>plant ulti down on payload for final stretch
>finishing off the pussybois running at low health
Best girl
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>>337089516
Excuse the reddit link, but yes

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4htukd/quality_symmetra_gameplay_take_notes/
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>>337089980
yeah because you are playing with beta shitters that just play it cause it is a free game. That is why anyone who is decent at fps games can just play bastion and win every game.
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>>337089740
>Don't be in his sights for 3 seconds, noob

spoken like a true shitter

Bastion turret is around 300 dps up close and closer to 150 at range not counting how incredibly easy it is to get headshots with it because of the spread and essentially infinite ammo. He takes 2 or 3 people coordinating to properly displace him if he's in a good spot and someone like Pharah will die playing peekaboo with bastion since he can hold F for half a second to heal while she ducks away.

>>337089980
>I'm playing in the open beta mouth-breathing MMR bracket

good advice
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Best girl and best skin
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>>337090163

How do you counter winston with the zero suit d.va?
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>>337090265
give him some peanut butter and bananas
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>>337090136
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She isn't bad but she's definitely on the weak side. She doesn't really do anything that other heroes can't do better.

Winston is better at getting on their back line squishies, popping them, and then getting out alive. Reinhardt is a better tank. Roadhog is a better tank/assassin. She just doesn't really excel at anything, the only good thing she has is her ult which can be chained with something like a Zarya ult or Mei ult for maximum keks but that's pretty much it.
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What character is hard mode? This game seemed pretty easy. I would say the hardest character to use is Soldier: 76.
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>>337089738
Same. He might not go great toe to toe with other tanks but he melts any unarmored heroes.
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>>337089656
>>337090138
When I found out about her head hitbox she became much easier to counter
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>>337089487
On what planet does D.Va have a chance against Roadhog? It takes 2 shots with the shotgun, and he's probably the easiest hero to hook. You'd have to be the shittiest of shitter to die to a D.Va, unless you are almost dead at the start of the engagement or she knocks you off an edge by charging (at which point you hook her so she dies with you)
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>>337085474
She needs a buff. Anybody who says they do well with her is just doing well in spite of her.
In every role of tank, disrupter, picking off snipers etc there is a better pick.

Majority of the time you're a shitty tracer.
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If a character isn't straight OP most people that suck think they're shit, because it reminds them how much they themselves are shit.

Unskilled people flock to whatever class is overpowered on any particular patch/build of a game. Then when it changes they cry and switch to the next one.
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>>337089232
lmao what the fuck is this? Is this what console players are actually proud of? The people on the enemy team are so retarded some of them not only stand next to where your mech lands, they fucking run AT it to get killed by the blast.

Also it's so obvious you're playing with a gamepad even without the console button prompts. Jesus christ it's like watching someone play in molasses. Now I have to wonder, is the game balanced around PC players who can actually aim, or is it balanced around console players who take ages to turn around and run at the giant glowing exclamation mark that kills them?
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>>337085474
best girl!
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>Playing Reinhardt on Ilios
>D. Va is running away in the opposite direction of the point toward her spawn
>Give chase because they have no offense anyway so I'm thirsty for a kill
>Turn the corner and start hitting her
>"Nerf this"
>Ok nevermind
>Turn back and around the corner again
>By the time it explodes I am on the opposite side of the building
>Die
I'm guessing that I can block the explosion with the shield, because I did turn around and shield in case someone gave chase and released it right before the blast.
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>>337090402
Tanks are easy mode for D.VA since they all rely on close range and the closer they get to D.VA the more bullets they get hit by also not needing to reload helps.
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>>337090265

That's a hard one, I'm pretty shit at dealing with Winston in general, but I can squeeze out wins against him here and there.
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>dvas ult radius

Is this a fucking joke? It's fucking impossible to defend against a decent team using dva jihading you unless you have a shieldman to charge it away
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>Play of the game
>It's Bastion sitting in a corner

Every time
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>>337090265
You don't.
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>>337090494
You realize objects block it right? You can hide behind a lampost or anything.
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>>337090136
Disgusting koreans.
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>>337090402
You have a small enough window to hit E to eat the followup shots from Roadhog, and start unloading on him. Even if Mech dies, you can gun him down with Zero Suit DVa right after.

Personally, I just run if RH hooks me, because fuck dealing with him.
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>>337090227
I disagree
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>>337090494
Next time try getting behind a wall. You can be literally 3ft away from the mech but you won't die if you are behind a wall. Even cars work.
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>>337090176
>a decent assault

Holy fuck how can people actually think this? She has no abilities and the lowest health in the game on foot. Your weapon in mech also does such low damage people can literally ignore it past 10 feet.
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>>337090417
>>337089626
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>>337090227
Of the basic skins Carbon is best.
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>>337090417
Why do you think you can't change the FOV in the first place? Consoles dumbed the game down
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>>337090625
why is she cross eyed
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Bastion in general needds to be reworked.

He's a complete pub stomp, and he'd suck in actual high end games. Neither of these things are good.
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>>337090136
Jesus christ why

These characters are all so situational and inflexible, you shouldn't be "maining" anyone
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>>337090625

I think the earmuffs ruin what's otherwise an excellent costume for her. They're just so ugly.
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>>337090173
nah dude you can't greentext back

enjoy your objectively worse aiming
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>>337090696
You can change the fov, what are you talking about.
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>>337090494
Break line of sight. You can hide behind a lamp pole and be safe.
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>>337090716

Also the goggles should be on her head, not her eyes. It's cuter that way.
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>>337090625
It makes her look like a lesbian autist and takes her cuteness away

>>337090668
Too edgy for me, I like white rabbit
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>>337089626
I was considering overwatch on xbone vs pc because pc already has aimhacks.
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>>337090402
You can charge before he can shoot after a hook and he'll miss, you can also immediately E before he can shoot
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>>337090645
Someone doesn't know how to lead their targets.
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>>337090494
It's big because it's literally the only thing she has to offer a team. It does less damage the farther you're away.
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>>337090713
yeah exactly because characters are so easily countered it isn't even a big deal when you have a problem with some faggot on the enemy team.

The problem is the faggots who main and don't switch even though they die constantly.
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>>337090731

You just fell for the weakest possible b8

Goddamn you insecure PC fucks are so easy to reel in.
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>>337090402
You have to abuse his reload. If he's got a full shotgun and lands all 4 shots on you and you didn't have defense matrix to absorb any of them you're dead. Otherwise you'll have enough time while he's reloading to kill him.
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>>337090702
He's not really a pub stomp in higher mmr pubs. We've had the game for what, a week? Most people aren't that good at it yet unless they had access to the closed beta so yeah he still feels strong if you don't know how to deal with him but that will come with time.
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>>337090713
idk, i just don't like playing as anybody else
MCcree is pretty fun but that's about it
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>>337089516
i've seen bugged potgs for symmetra where she gets a kill or two with her primary and then her turrets do enough damage to be considered "plays"
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>>337090821
Are you seriously trying to argue that a 150 health character with 0 abilities is a "decent assault" when she can't compete at all with any other character? Any character could 1v1 her and win, even a Mercy. If what you meant to say by "decent assault" was "least viable character in the game," then I would agree with you. I just laugh whenever I see a dva with no mech trying to frontline, it's like they think they're gonna do anything besides die.
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So what's the thing she is good at? Flanking? I think Winston is better in that.
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>>337090635
i've been trying to outrange it every time and getting assfucked as symmetra

thanks
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>>337090847
>I was just pretending to be retarded
>you fell for my bait
>I trolled you

okay console kid
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>>337090921
if you see play of the game it tells you what it does like "shutdown" and shit.

Killing people during ult gives the most play points and if you get a multi kill with a guy in ultimate you pretty much get play of game.

Like if you kill a mcree in deadeye and get another kill you get play of game instead of someone killing four people with headshots and shit.
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>>337090846
considering I main D.VA and have an average death of 3.7 how about no? Better be be great at D.VA in all situations than mediocre on a few in some situations.
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>>337091028
Potg is almost always someone pressing Q, or if everyone played like ass, it's someone killing two people. It's never impressive after you've played the game for a couple hours.
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>>337087603
But I'll always play Roadhog :(
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>>337090957
>Any character could 1v1 her and win, even a Mercy
My fucking sides, you must be complete trash.
You can outright kill any squishy character with good enough leading, or if you're a shitter just build ulti from harassing tanks until you get your ultimate.
I've gone many games where I've spanked the entire enemy team without dying once.
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>>337091080
>how about no?

Great argument fuck face. Not dying doesn't mean you're playing well, for all anyone knows you're just sitting in the back holding M1 down and then running off to get healthpacks when anyone shoots you. Oh and once in a while you press Q, good on you, I'm certain you're "great" at dva.

>how about no?
>how about no?
>how about no?
>how about no?
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>>337091080

Well you are just going to get fucked in the ass in ranked or when the actual game comes out because people who play the game are the ones that actually bought at and in for the long haul and are going to play heroes that counter you if you are a nuisance.

Which will happen if you just get good with one character and you will be screwed because you are shit with everyone else.
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>>337090973
Nothing. She's not horrible but she's outclassed by other heroes.

>>337091080
Just learn another hero retard. It's easy to not die as D.Va but it doesn't mean you're helping much. As a harraser and backline assassin tracer btfo D.Va.
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>>337091189
>My fucking sides, you must be complete trash.

I don't understand how killing dvas out of their mech makes me trash, but you're the stupid asshole trying to argue that - again - a 150 hp character with no abilities is anything but cannon fodder, so I can't be expected to understand your retarded reasoning.
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>>337091216
Stop being a salty cunt because I do contribute >>337090327
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>>337090625
Titanfall?
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>>337090417
>The people on the enemy team are so retarded

are you really implying it isnt the same for us on pc?
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>>337091080
>I think maining a single character in blizz's new r/p/s fps is a good idea
>I'm gonna be great in all situations even when people counter me

>how about no?

Couldn't have said it better myself
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>Be road hog
>She pops her ult
>Take a sip from my drink

I can practically feel the rage seething through their monitor.
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>>337091319
On the other hand I can understand you. Before I git gud and understood dva gameplay I thought like you.
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>>337091327
>>337091080
DVa just isn't useful in some situations and team comps. Full stop.

It's not like these characters are complex, like you have some special knowledge or insight into DVa at 10 hours that someone else won't have at 2. These characters are very shallow and inflexible, they have very small toolsets and rigid game plans.
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>>337091327
>average eliminations <13
>average objective kills <5
>average damage ~4k
>average time on fire <25 seconds
>average solo kills <2

How do you contribute, exactly? Please explain it to me, I'm honestly curious, cuz looking at your stats it looks like you got hot once or twice in a few matches and in every other match you're totally average or even below average.
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>>337089656
Her shield isn't great because it's just delaying the inevitable since she can't do anything else while it's active.

Yeah, it protects teammates and can eat some ults, but her job isn't supposed to be babysitting her team. She's a tanky harasser, and the shield doesn't do anything for her in that role.
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>>337091451
>le understood d.va gameplay
Not much to understand anon.
>You can outright kill any squishy character with good enough leading
Kek a okay tracer will shit all over zero suit d.va.
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>>337091393
>shooting roadhog
>he heals
>ult charges up like a damn battery

thanks
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>>337090973
>So what's the thing she is good at?
She's good at breaking up offensive pushes. Her mech lets her prevent team damage while pushing enemies apart and doing good close range damage, then when her mech is destroyed she can harass for a short while until her mech returns.

It is completely expendable.
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>>337091189
>You can outright kill any squishy character with good enough leading

You just killed them because you were better than them. You will lose every single time against a player of equal skill just because leading is objectively worse than instant hitting.

Or are you gonna tell me that its easier to hit with dva zero suit pistol than the rifle of soldier 76 that hits faster and has less travel time or maybe a tracer which has blinks and rewind?
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>>337091283
>>337091302
>>337091376
>>337091454
>All these salty fucking autist mad over what someone plays in a beta

Get cucked you know what I am going to play Overwatch right now and I am going to play only D.VA right this second try sleeping on that
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>>337091451
>Still completely avoiding the issue

If you're not gonna tell me how the least viable character in the game is a "decent assault" just stop posting. All you've tried to argue is that if you're really, really good with the worst character in the game for killing other people, you might be able to out dps and kill other players in 1v1s without your mech. Which is kind of silly and pretty much just fucking retarded to assume or hope for. You're probably just another dva like all the other ones I see that try to go toe to toe with someone like s76 or McCree and then just fall over dead because you literally have nothing to bring to a fight other than a pistol.
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>>337091540

>Bastion giving everyone trouble
>team up with someone
>shield them while they pump Bastion with bullets
>help them finish him off
>rinse and repeat to make Bastion never be a problem again

What's even more fun is teaming up with another D.va and trading shield duty back and forth. Do it right and you can bring down anyone while taking little to no damage.
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>>337085794
>ult not good
>got a fucking pentakill a couple hours ago
>went 32-6 another match
>4golds most of the time

D.Va is great
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the drawfs turret needs nerf
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>>337091687
go right ahead but you gonna get fucked if you main. The whole basis of this game is counterpicking to counter enemy teams, normally you won't be able to lock in a hero and end the game with said hero without switching.
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>>337091687
lmao, how defensive and victim-complexy can you get? No one is mad that you play dva. People are just stating facts; you're pigeon-holing yourself into one character who isn't all that great, and you're overly defensive about it and pissing and moaning because people think she's kind of weak, which she is.

>Get cucked

We're not the ones who spent 95% of our playtime with a character that just isn't that great lmao what a fucking moron
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>>337091687
alright. good night anon! have fun
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>>337091780
>pentakill with D.Va ult
>anecdotes from open beta
wew
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>>337091749
>Pick Reinhardt.
>Do a better job of shielding and a better job of hitting Bastion at range.

???
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>>337091780
Reading comprehension is hard, right? Anon was saying that it's not good that the only thing about her that's worth mentioning is her ult. Not that her ult wasn't good.

>>got a fucking pentakill a couple hours ago

woah dude you pressed Q and the enemy stood there, that's super cool and impressive
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>>337091749

being you have to gangbang a bastion is a problem. All you have to do to counter D.va is backstep and shoot, Bastion with his recon machine gun is actually really good at killing d.va.

>Two D.va switching shields to take out one bastion

This must be some faggot shitter fantasy right here
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>>337091613
Yes, if I faced anyone worth their salt they would give me a run for my money, but even then its a tough fight.
Let me explain dva to everyone.
She is a siegebreaker in her mech form with her ultimate, has high maneuvrability and reliable consistent damage.
When she's killed, she changes into a squishy DPS that can kill squishy targets and chip away at tanky units until she gets her mech back.
And that's why she's a decent assault in zero suit mode.
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>how to fix d.va

remove her slowdown when firing.

done.
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>>337091969
>reliable consistent damage
Are you playing paralyzed people?
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Japan is digging it.
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>>337085474
The longest killstreak I've managed to get with her was 11. You need a healer to pocket you to be remotely viable.

They either need to shrink the critbox and increase gatling damage or add Armored Core For Answer style quickboosting.
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>>337091969
Let me explain D.Va to you.

She's a useless shit that I have to hook twice to actually kill, but she helps me get the gold damage done medal.
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>Play Reinhardt, get the perfect balance of shielding and running faggots over to hammer their friends, great damage, eliminations and damage blocked
>Play Roadhog, hook picks for days, always in a good spot where I can stick my head out but they can't really pressure me, usually near a medkit spawn to complement the E
>Play Zarya sometimes, save some fag's life with shield, use mine aggressivly as fuck, run around above 80% power fucking cutting people in half
>Try to Play D.Va or Winston, patiently pick my engage when my team is around and I've got a good important target, kill maybe one person then die and my team doesn't take advantage of the brief shitshow I've caused
It doesn't help that D.va is the fucking squishest tank even with the highest effective health. She needs to be super close to get good damage in but she's got a big hitbox and she's far and away the easiest character to headshot so long as she's facing you.
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Not great, but OK.

Usually 1-2 in eliminations, damage, objective kills. Will probably get shit on when it finally releases.
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>>337091815
>playing as lucio, and the team's only healing
>enemy team has a bastion and a torbjorn
>no one on my team will switch to genji

sometimes I switch anyway just to finally kill them at least once
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>>337092023
Also shrink her head box.
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>>337091529
>w-where is your kills and damage
>on a hero designed not to to score massive damage or lots of kills

Wrong category friend D.VA is listed as a tank, If I wanted to do damage I would just pick someone from attack
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>>337091540

The way to use the shield is to make people waste ammo so they're forced to reload when you actually fight them.
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>>337092002

Who?
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>>337085597
>tracer
>nerf

If anything, she's a candidate to get buffed. More ammo count most likely.
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>>337090853
Bastions that actually move around and use recon mode become significantly more difficult to deal with then the braindead shitters that just camp one spot.

If he gets actual support from teammates he becomes incredibly difficult to deal with in pub games. Still doesn't do much better then "Surprise Bastion" tactics in competitive, but he has the potential to become a bit ridiculous when you can't coordinate your team.
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>>337091749
>I need two people to deal with one character
>brushes hands off
>EYUP THAT'LL DO IT EHYUCK
>GIT ER DONE!!!

great advice
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>>337092002

Who's Benedict and why'd you post a picture of Pharah?
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>>337091969
Well if you can't see that leading is objectively harder to hit than a instant hit weapon and because of that you are at a huge disadvantage against people of equal aiming skills then I can't do anything for you.
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>>337092043
That's definitely true. I got 17 today because I had two friends pocketing me as lucio and mercy.
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>>337092128
So, again, how do you contribute? You posted your stats and then linked to your stats to prove that you contribute, and now that I'm pointing out that your stats mean dick all because they don't actually prove you contributing at all except being completely mediocre and average, you're backpedaling about it and being defensive.

How do you contribute?
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>>337091815
I haven't encountered any issues so far playing D.VA so why would I care to switch? I've played healer but tank in my games is always the least picked so I pick D.VA. Had zero issues in match ups against other tanks or against anyone.

>>337091837

>We're not the ones who spent 95% of our playtime with a character that just isn't that great lmao what a fucking moron

well you sound upset that I am having fun
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>>337091897
>Dark Souls boss
>Good at hitting anybody at range
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>>337092391
Sounds like someone needs to git gud with flamestrike.
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>>337092171

>Teamwork in a team-based FPS? UNHEARD OF!
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>>337092354
People are upset that you're resorting to childish antics and belligerence, not that you're having fun. People state facts and concerns about the character, you turn into a giant baby about it and shout "YEAH WE'LL I'M HAVING FUN!!!!!" as if that means anything or addresses anything anyone actually said to you instead of your fantasy interpretation of what was said to you.
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>>337091593
Roadhog is just so horrible to have on your team.

He practically guarantees the enemy team will be at 100% ult all the time.
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>>337090136
It's been fun.
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>>337092354
yeah you are playing free open beta weekend. People that play any free game that is out are playing this, anyone that played fps games before probably think they are jesus' chosen at this game probably right now.
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>>337092425
Good luck hitting that slow ass projectile against someone who isn't retarded.
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So how'd I do ?
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>>337092002
>furshit
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>>337092489
The failure in your reasoning is that if the bastion has a buddy with him, especially a healer or god forbid another bastion, you would then need 3 or 4 people to get rid of him. But way to completely and purposefully misinterpret my point so you could be a sarcastic cunt. Just because the game is teambased doesn't mean it's okay for a single character to require two or more people to deal with in an average situation.
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>>337092601
Bastions don't move much.
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>>337092261

Sure. Go ahead.
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>>337085474
Because she is awful. She's the only character that actually sucks. She as no niche. Terrible harasser, Terrible tank. Any slot wasted on a D.Va would be better used on just about any character. Any team with a D.Va would have their efficacy increased by like 20% if the D.Va player just switched to Soldier 76?
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>>337092646
>Hear ult Noise
>Transform back in .5 seconds
>Hide behind a corner

slow ults dont stop bastion.
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>>337092646
A bastion can reposition, even slightly, and transform in about a second. Now you gotta readjust your aim when you pop back out which gives him the advantage. He can also be healing when you duck away.
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>>337092601
>not leading your target with Flamestrike

Gotten plenty of kills using Flamestrike, especially on Pharahs.

As stated previously, git gud.
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>>337092696
Thank you

Mei is pure cancer. She is so cancer that when she is near I can feel a tumor growing on my back. Fuck her and anyone who plays that bitch

Thank you for your time
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>that feel when I won't get to play as my waifu for 2 weeks

why the fuck can't I just put myself in a 14-day coma
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>>337092606
My averages are much higher than yours and I've only played for 5 hours. And I know I'm not very good.

So your stats are really not very good.
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>>337092057
I've stopped playing Winston because it just makes me mad at my team.
>Playing Ilios ruins map
>Enemy team has the point and is about to win
>Team has been putzing about and trickling in all game
>They finally group up like they usually tend to only do at the last second
>Nowismytimetoshine.jpg
>Playing Winston and have my ult up
>Just as my team hits the point I jump into the enemy team and ult
>Get their undivided attention as I smack both the tank and support back down their side of the map
>Their ENTIRE team has run back to deal with me
>With good movements, shields, and liberal use of leaps I distract their whole team for a good 15 second
>Finally die keeping their attention for as long as possible
>DEFEAT
>My team somehow managed to get further away from the point then when they'd started
>They were all AD strafing around on our side of the map taking pot shots at their team while I was distracting them
>Nobody even touched the point the entire time
>This was the latest incident
>Stop playing Winston
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>>337092002
Who?
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This game feels like it's designed in a way that forces me to play in a certain way, and always lose in certain situations, rather than just putting in mechanics (weapons, movement abilities, all that), and them having strengths/weaknesses that will make them favorable in certain situations. It's sort of like in World of Warcraft where the winner of a duel was %100 decided by which two classes the duelers were playing. It doesn't feel like there's much room to pull off great out plays, you can't really do unconventional or unintended moves, you do what you're supposed to do and you're rewarded for it, you step out of line and you're punished. I'm not sure if I'm wording what I'm trying to say correctly, but it just feels very forced how you're supposed to play, and you can't really step out of line of how you're supposed to.
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>>337090625
Looks like Tracer's little sister. Also the goggles look awful on her.
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>>337092815
Are you literally retarded?
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Does Road Hog's hook get a magical +thirty fucking yards when you hit someone with it?

I'll throw it out and it seems like it goes 15 feet when I miss but when it's on target it's like it goes fucking double the length, it's insane
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>>337090136
I was having trouble with the ult once people started learning to GTFO, but then I learned about using it as a airburst bomb.
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>>337092815

>5 hours

Only way to compare yourself to him is to play the exact amount of hours and then compare stats.

Cause that is like saying someone play one game and get 30 kill no death and has 30/kd therefore best player in the game.
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>>337092002
That's not Drogoz.
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>>337089232
>jumps out of mech
>enemy team literally run up to the mech and try to melee it

what the fuck is this video
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>>337092852
It's a team game retardo it's not centered around your epic 1v1 fights.
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>>337092425
Even fucking roadhog can dodge that slow ass piece of shit
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>>337092349
Well to know that one must first know how to play D.VA to start with. D.VA is the supressive fire of the heroes, people when getting hit will dive for cover even if it's D.VA hitting them for minimal damage. You stand behind your team mates because your shield extends forwards a good distance meaning you can stand in the back constantly firing and chances are you will be focused for being such a big target. If you have a good team that either have good synergy or you communicate with you use your shield to say block a bastion or widow maker giving them time to take them out. You can use D.VA to chase down snipers or simply using her jets to brute force your way through as it knocks people back, also nothing like syncing that ult up with someone elses. In all D.VA isn't the play maker but the one that gives someone on your team the opportunity to make a play and when that doesn't work I just brute force my way through either by barging through the enemy or flying round and getting them from the back Though it doesn't matter you don't like me playing D.VA, you think I am bad, you probably don't like me so why even bother arguing. I am having fun tbqh
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>>337092971
I'm not sure what this is....but I'm 90% sure I want to have sex with it.
post a pic of his feet?
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Why does d.va have a headshot hitbox again?

What good is that cockpit anyway
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>>337092953
Well, sure. That's true enough. But I also started off being fucking awful and I've gotten consistently better with every game. So statwise, if I'm where I'm at, and he's where he's at, you can draw a conclusion from that.
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>>337090713
But that's not even true. A shit ton of the characters are flexible and versatile as fuck. That's one of the first things I noticed about the game.
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>>337093045
>people when getting hit will dive for cover even if it's D.VA hitting them for minimal damage
So basically you're playing against open beta shitters?
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>>337092002
No one's playing your shitty game. Fuck off.
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Does the game store your highlights anywhere on the computer?
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D.Va is fun.

>Cute
>Fun
>Love her voice

My only problems are the speed slow when shooting is horrible, too many people can just walk away, her crit box also needs to be reduced or removed, the mech dies so fast it's insane. Lastly personal explosion radius on that ult, I'm part of the blame, but it's too easy to die to your own explosion.
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>>337089414
Reinhardt+Bastion with Mercy on Payload is pretty broken
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>>337093104
Her cockpit is pretty good
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>>337092985
tfw Roadhog has the same movement speed as Mercy
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>>337092002

He's a slack jawed yokel and he isn't very fun at all.
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>>337090576
Mei is of Asian descent.
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>>337092261
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>>337093224
Her critbox and speed are the only reason she isn't a garbage no-skill hero like Hanzo or Bastion. Be happy.
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>>337092503
>People state facts and concerns about the character

And I agree with most things said about D.VA needing buffs? I just like playing D.VA most of the time, peoples argument against me playing D.VA so far are assumptions about how I play.

>>337092564
Yeah probably
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>>337093224
>her voice
>HIIII
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>>337092261
>Play Mei and violently shit on the enemy team all match
>Play Reaper, shoot shoot, wraith right before I freeze, shoot shoot, or just fucking walk away if she ice blocks for the health
>Play Tracer, blink out of freeze range and hose her down
>Play Genji, dash out of freeze range and pincushion her
>Play Mcree, roll forward for the point blank stun and fan or roll back out of range and gun her down
>Play 76, about face and sprint out of range, spray her down, or just drop my health and stand in it to tank Mei's whole combo and kill her when I unfreeze
The only thing a Mei can do to someone that knows how she work is stall. WOH THATS DEFENSIVE

I enjoy playing Mei because every time I kill someone I can think of easy ways they could have avoided it and didn't. Makes me feel good. Also you can make ice puns at people. I always call my PotGs "cool"
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>>337086182
>Also stacking, they need to have a one hero each gametype
That's one of the brawl of the week things.
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>People that think tracer needs to be nerfed

Literally CoD babbies, she's one of the most perfectly balanced characters for her unique role. Her HP is fucking garbage and heaven help you if your only bail option is on cooldown. Blinks help but they won't heal you. She can only pick people off and harass, she can't contribute in straight up fights or she gets shredded. Zenyatta has 150 hp/shield as well but he just throws his blue balls and ducks back into cover and tosses heal/discord orbs, he isn't meant to actually try and take people out in combat, though you can if you're gud.

I also don't think tracer needs any buff either, people say "buff the range on her ult" either throw distance or actual damage distance, but it's fine as is imo

>B..but I can't hit her!
Blinks have cooldowns, she's harassing and doing her job, she CAN'T let you hit her or she's fucked. She isn't fat ass Mei with her chunky HP.
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>>337085474
She;s abysmal compared to other tanks, critbox is fucking massive, low damage guns (with fuck huge bloom), reduces movespeed unlike other tanks for some reason. Her best abilities are her wall and ultra. They should make her gain some ultra percentage when she successfully absorbs damage
>>337085597
walk behind a fucking light pole and survive it
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>>337092978
>it's a team game, therefore all uniqueness in playstyle, and any ability to outplay people other than through having the right heroes/positions
>assuming I just want "epic 1v1 fights"
Retard.
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>>337091020
Holy shit you're the spitting image of pottery. Stay retarded, faggot
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>>337090625

Short hair is TRASH.
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>>337093106
The conclusion is play 22 more hours before talking shit
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>D. VA's low-health panting.
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>>337093162
>Excuses the post

Fun fact beta weekends have a higher skill bar compared to when games are released, Activison and Valve have noted this in their previous Beta studies.
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>>337093425
I prefer the EEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNGGGGGG
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>>337093045
So you don't actually contribute anything except your ult, like most dvas. You do totally mediocre in all statistics including objective time, but you still pat yourself on the back and tell yourself that every win was because of your hardwork and every loss was because of the failures of the team. All while most of the people you're playing are young teens, brazilians, and people on toasters.

>I am having fun tbqh

Great argument, I'm sure your team really appreciates that every time you pick your mediocre waifu and perform completely average with her.
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>>337093337
r u evn tryng?
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>>337093425

>Most of her pain sounds in general
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>can't kill anyone using Roadhogs hook n shoot gimmick
I guess I'm just a shitter.
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>>337093507
Well considering the amount of legendaries and epics I get my teams have appreciated me, sorry that you are so autistic upset that I play D.VA. I hope that you get some help soon winky face
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>>337093591
It's easy just scrape and lick.

Hook then shoot then melee.
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>>337093425
>D. VA's panting when she takes damage
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>>337085474
She's good at using her block, but Zarya is 100x better since she has two
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>>337093536
Much more than you since you can't counter any of my points, meme lord.
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>>337093413
More irony from the console kid, are you still pretending to be retarded?
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http://imgur.com/a/I5CUj

Enjoy lads
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R8 my D.VA stats. I just started playing Overwatch on PS4 and she is my first character.
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>>337093961
This is why I picked her. :^)
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>>337093936

>mfw load up the game and Zarya is on my screen
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>>337093628
>More of this "lol u mad that i play a mediocre character?"

No one is mad that you play a bad character, you just play completely sub-par and then try your hardest to insist you're a great boon to your team, and then when your stats show anything but, you backpedal and whine about how dva isn't about getting kills and junk. Really, you're all over the place with your reasoning, you've never once been consistent, that's what is upsetting.
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>>337093967
>PS4
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>>337094093
I fucking hate her design as well anon but she's pretty strong its hard to not play her.

Assist shield is so strong, throw it on reapers, genjis, really anyone that needs to get in close to ultra and they will absolutely get it off.
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>>337094098
No you are clearly upset, you can't let this argument go. You are obsessed with the idea that I am bad yet you have never even seen me play instead you picked a bunch of stats that are poorly applied to a tank as your way of proving me wrong. Your argument is just a milder version of asking why someone who plays support doesn't have a high KDA because it's not their job. I have a positive win percentage so I don't care what you think. Learn to let it go man.
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>>337093162
>Run across the Hanamura courtyard to the first point
>Get hit, spin to the right to maybe hook or atleast see what I'm dealing with
>It's a Dva just outside hook range
>Oh.
>Turn back towards the point and finish walking my fat ass there
>Start capping at 590/600 health

>>337093045
>when that doesn't work I just brute force my way through either by barging through the enemy or flying round and getting them from the back

>Dva boosts into me, melee's me and starts firing point blank into my head
>Murder her
>Dva sneaks around, boosts into me, melee's me and starts firing point blank into my head
>Turn around
>And murder her
Are you a console baby? Maybe these chucklefucks can't turn around fast enough to kill you or can't aim well enough to hit your massive dead center critbox.

>>337093628
>Well considering the amount of legendaries and epics I get my teams have appreciated me
>Well considering the amount of legendaries and epics I get
Nigga nobody gets a shitton of epics unless they play with friends because randos can hardly be assed to vote at all. I've seen maybe 2 legendaries in over a hundred matches because ten votes TOTAL is rare as fuck.
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>>337093636
Maybe it's the ps4 version but there's too much delay between the hook and them getting close enough to instagib
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>>337094308
>you picked a bunch of stats that are poorly applied to a tank as your way of proving me wrong

You linked me to your own stats to prove that you contribute. After I pointed out that all of those stats are average and mediocre, you backpedaled. So if those stats don't prove anything why did you shove them in my face as if it meant anything? You're the one who's autistic, you prove yourself wrong and then you start pointing the finger like a fuckin idiot.
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>>337085597
I would prefer a more detailed graphic of the blast radius since it's deceptively huge.

I like using it to scare people off of objectives. It either kills or heavily disrupts a push. Probably my favorite hero to use on defense if there's at least one healer.
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>>337094378

The only difference between versions is how strong turrets are
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