>kiddies suddenly hate everything Japanese
What the hell happened? Remember when games like Donkey Kong, Pac-Man and Samurai Showdown were the coolest shit? When most people owned a Super Nintendo or Sega Genesis? What led to this change in opinion on Japanese games in the west? Am I misinterpreting something, or do younger kids not have an appreciation for the country that used to be on top of the console vidya world?
>>337077824
Imagine if they marketed Fatal Fury as a fps
No one actually thinks Uncharted 4 is a batter videogame than The King of Fighters 98.
>>337077925
lol
>>337077824
No one cares about your weeaboo shit grandpa
>>337077925
In Mexico, you're right.
>>337077925
KoF 98 was made 20 years ago. I really doubt that young kids or the people that started playing video games when it became the popular thing last gen care about it.
>>337078203
Feels like the only SNK game the mainstream cares about now is Metal Slug, and that's only because of F2P mobileshit spinoffs.
>>337077925
You poor fool.
>>337077920
So Terry would shoot power waves at South Town thugs?
>>337077976
>>337078024
The games reviewers like, Bioshock Infinite, Uncharted 4, Shadows of Mordor, Dragon Age Inquisition, will be in no ones collection in 10 years, no one will play them, and if someone stumbles in the future with an hd remaster collection of those games, they will only see something that aged like shit.
those games are as disposable as a newspaper.
>>337077824
>What the hell happened?
Anime. They're right to hate it if this is all they're going to make.
>>337077824
I like Japanese games, just not weeb games. I'd rather see my amnamay than play it.
>>337077824
If you grew up in the PS3/360/Wii era, you didn't get to experience the Japanese golden age of games circa 1990-2006. They've been swayed by brown-and-bloom shooters, MOBAs, and Ass Creed.
because Japan hasn't been producing quality games on a consistent basis.
>>337078361
But Japanese games were "anime" back then as well. Street Fighter has a bull fighting ninja and a bunch of asian guys throwing kamehamehas. Legend of Zelda is about a stoic swordman that cuts down evil with his magic powers. Phantasy Star has a very distinctly manga-esque artstyle and guys flying around in space shooting each other and time traveling. Mega Man was supposed to be an Astro Boy game.
>>337078741
>But Japanese games were "anime" back then as well
If you think anime back then is the same as anime now, you're too young to post here.
>>337078430
What's the difference? Is Metal Gear Solid a weeaboo game? It has giant robots and caucasian ninjas. Is Gran Turismo not a weeaboo game because it's about cars?
>>337077925
Take me to your world senpai.
I want off the ride.
>>337078838
Metal gear is weeb westaboo game
>>337078807
Anime was always pandering to the dicks of weirdos. Did you never watch 1973's Cutie Honey?
>>337077925
If you had said XIII you would have maybe possibly been right
>>337078807
>im fucking plying
>>337079046
No one played XIII
>>337079012
>i have a screencap of one scene of one show to generalize decades of a style
>>337077824
>/v/
>contrarians
We had this topic a million times already.
>>337079116I did
>>337079012
I fucking love you.
>>337078838
I'm referring to things like neptunia and other games that have an anime art style. Mgs is nice though, but not exactly what I meant. I still love jap games bby.
>>337079135
Yeah, just like you're doing now. Except you don't have the courtesy of providing a screencap, you're just talking out of your ass.
Wall Street got involved.
>>337079135
There were a lot of shows like that. This was a genre even back then, yes. I know you probably haven't watched much anime and are probably American rather than Mexican (Ranma 1/2 was big there), but look at a season chart. Also, it's not just one scene from Cutie Honey. The show was pretty much just stuff like that. I mean, look at the OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCX77Je16fk
But yeah, 1975's Time Bokan was most known for lots of panty shots and bath scenes, 1984's Dirty Pair is all about slutty girls running around half naked, Pero Pero Candy (actual hentai) was released in 1985, Urusei Yatsura, a show about a girl in a tiger skin bikini from space doing retarded shit, premiered before Zeta Gundam, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Anime was always full of stuff like that. People only care to remember the good stuff.
>>337079339
What is an anime artstyle? Keep in mind that Japanese animators can and have done things in multiple different styles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IyU02E9bdM&
>>337079776
What did they do?
>>337079339
Is this anime?
>>337080146
Not if I like it
>>337080128
Made the western gaming industry into a huge Hollywood-esque mega money machine that's out to crush all competition.
>>337077824
i don't know i guess it's because let's players rarely play japanese games
actually they don't even play games they just watch people play
same think happens with cartoons, all the cartoon fandoms are full of teenagers and adults, the other day saw a pilot for a new disney cartoon based on a let's player from spain, i didn't get any of the jokes i guess all of them were references to his videos
>>337080248
This. I think Naughty Dog is the best example of this. They got way too far up their asses with shit like TLoU. Jak 2 was kind of edgy, but not nearly as bad.
>>337077824
>What the hell happened?
Japan stopped making good games. Compile stopped making cutting edge shmups like the Aleste series, because they didn't make any money. They now make Neptunia games, which actually generate profits. This is true for many, many, many companies.
>>337079012
That honey really is a cutie.
>>337078203
My 16 year old wife's son loves KOF 98
>>337080470
Did the Mexican bull convince him to play it or you?
>>337080357
Too much Niche Japanese Pantsu quests and too many Japanese game devs with games that doesnt causes the press to have an ulcer giving gaijin the finger.
What do you expect from 4 years of mediocrity? Same with how people lump jpop with AKB48. They are gonna look elsewhere
>>337079948
For fuck's sake. Stop being such a sanctimonious cunt. You know damn well what one means when they say "anime artstyle". The distinctive look of anime is obvious to even small children. Even if there are different variations and styles, an anime artstyle is an anime artstyle.
And, Protip: Claymation is not anime. Anime is by definition hand drawn or computer animation.
Oh look it's another "what counts as anime style" thread.
>>337080852
>sanctimonious
hahaha what? I just asked a question, nigga. Oh but really, what do the artstyles of say, Kaiji and K-On have in common?
>>337080758
You have to understand the science of making money. Companies are out to make money first and foremost. You make money by making a good product. Good in this case can either mean mass appeal or solid concept, occasionally both. So you make a game, and it sold well, what do you do? Make another one, but change a few things, maybe make the gameplay a bit deeper. It too sold well, but not as well as it could. The clearly the mechanics were at fault, since it was the only thing that changed. Now you make game 3, and you add a few more characters, two of whom target the waifu audience. This game is the best selling game in the series, until you make game 4, where the entire cast is for the waifu audience. Every single girl, every single 'girls look surprised as they accidentally grope the other's tits' scene, every stutter, every single god damned thing about the girls was focus tested to appeal to as many people as possible, and generate the highest possible profit. But the gameplay has not changed at all, because fuck it, no one buys games for gameplay.
Hell, for fuck's sake, even the blasphemous baka gaijin westerners used to make good games. It affects everyone, it just so happens that Japanese games are inherently worse because of how the budget is allocated. Is Bioshock Infinite better than System Shock 2? No. Is Neptunia better than M.U.S.H.A.? No. Is Bioshock Infinite better than Neptunia? They're both shit for different reasons, and they're both given free passes for various reasons. BSI is given free passes because of how 'artsy' and 'deep' it is, Neptunia is given free passes by fedora clad neckbeards on Soviet Propaganda broadcasting centers. However, there's more of the former than the latter.
>>337081010
This is a regular thread about Japanese games. anime/anti-anime autists are just using it as their soapbox for an arugment no one cares about like usual.
>>337081629
I thought that liking Neptuina was a meme and no one actually thought it was good.
>>337082095
Apparently it does well enough for CH to keep making them, almost outpacing Call of Duty.
>>337081629
Understandable. It felt like we should be getting the GvG series for consoles since it has the FGC potential. Mind you Sony made an effort to show good Japanese games still exist with Y5 but it is an uphill battle for localization of non CH titles
>>337082531
I'm positive Yakuza is really a niche title, and it just so happens that its biggest niche is in Japan. Weren't the first two games something of cult classics in the US? They should've kept people informed of them, instead of just vanishing and then popping out of thin air.
>>337082531
>GvG
What?
>>337083541
Gundam vs gundam
>>337077824
There's been a concentrated effort over the last 10-15 years or so to destroy Japanese gaming as a viable option in order to promote the more compliant western devs. Cultural marxists worm their way into everything and will play the long game to slowly chip away at that which they hate in order to then rebuild it in their image. Vidya is no different and since Japland is safe from social justice shit it had to be destroyed and something "better" errected in its place.
>>337078336
Sounds more fun than most modern FPS games.
Yeah man japanese games suck, give me some of those western games!!!! xD
>>337083939
So the jews did this?
>>337084307left side looks cooler
>>337078350
>Implying those faggots keep collections in the first place
>Implying they aren't actively trying to turn the entire industry into digital only
Now I'm getting depressed
>>337077824
"AA" development has become increasingly niche and Japanese business models clash like nails on a chalkboard with AAA development.
It was the shift from 6th gen to 7th that did them in. As videogame audiences demanded prettier graphics, costs and risks fucking exploded, a demand most Jap developers weren't able to cope with.
The ones you see survive are the ones that stick to their niche and production values anyway (Koei Tecmo, Namco Bandai) or ones that were EXTREMELY western/internationally leaning to begin with (Capcom, Square).
So it's been a terrible, terrible industry post 7th gen and it's only gotten worse. Because a risk-averse entertainment industry isn't one that should exist.
>>337078350
These reviewers live in the moment. They don't care about the longevity of a game, nor do they look back at old releases anyway. They'll just stick with whatever is currently popular. I know that's kind of what you're saying, but that's also why I'm saying they won't care.
No one on /v/ knows about video games made before the 5th generation OP.
>>337085242
Even that's being generous. I think a lot of people on /v/ has the Xbox as their first console.
>>337085242
I've found that /v/ discussions only turn up nill if you try to get one going about pre-Atari crash games.
Which is like second generation. Not that bad.
So did anyone here actually own a Neo Geo? I wanted one, but my parents always told me it was too expensive.
>>337085665
Most people here are either too young or didn't have older siblings to get hand me downs from.
>>337079046
>Implying XIII is better than 98
Fucking lost my shit.
>>337086302
I think he was just implying that more people have played it recently outside of Korea, Japan, and China and Mexico.
Because fuck those chinks.
Support the west, support America!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFz8oOAPM-c
>>337086609
What if I'm Italian? Also, Japanese people like wrestling as well
>>337086236
Pft, no. Only played Neo Geo games in arcades. That shit cost mad bucks.
>>337087074
>Italian
Italia è parte del mondo occidentale.
>>337086236
I don't think anyone in here owned one. You had to be rich to own that
>>337087265
Ma l'Italia non è l'America.
>>337086609
I would if America still still made shooters like Japan does. When will the west have another boxed release of a game like Tyrian?
>>337077824
Kojima explained it well, Japanese games were simpler in former times and adapted to our culture better. Nowadays with better technology and stuff it's a product that is distinctly foreign. That and western games became better and the Japanese game market did sort of stagnate. Think they were better working within limitations
>>337077824
It's a cycle, first you love, then you hate, then you love again just look at the world now:
>before: freedom is bad, violence is bad, sex is bad
>then the rock age came: freedom is good, violence is good, sex is good
>now: freedom is bad, violence is bad, sex is bad
>>337088569
>became better
"Prettier", yes.
>>337088569
>western games became better
In what sense? I still view Deus Ex as one of the best games ever developed in America and that was released 16 years ago. What recent game even compares to something like that?
>>337088609
>violence is bad
So why did they use war to solve everything? Why did they wipe out the native Americans?
Also, the puritans escaped to America because they wanted freedom in the first place.
>>337088781
Freedom to enforce their own views, their problem was that the rest of England didn't share their puritanical beliefs.
Would neo-/v/ call Galaga or Gradius weeaboo pixelshit if they were new IPs released today?
what happened?
Otaku/Fujoshi pandering.
Waifus/kawaii/husbandos things dont sale for shit here.
>>337089147
Super Robot Vulkaiser was viewed positively.
>>337088569
>western games became better
bahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>337089186
This. This is the biggest disappointment to me. I miss JRPGs when they were fantastical.
I don't really give a shit about waifus and whatever. I don't mind that they exist, it's just they exist at the exclusion of everything else.
Also sick of Gackt, but japan likes him, so oh well.
>>337089186
Japanese games had otaku/fujoshi pandering back then as well. They just didn't localize those ones.
>>337089186
Nice meme you clueless fucktard
There's shit that's Japanese but relatively normal (Zelda, Final Fantasy, MGS) and then you have your Underaged Panty Quest that most people will hate on, if only as a knee-jerk thing because of how weird it is
You know how hard it is trying to convince someone to give Senran Kagura a shot?
>>337089643
Yes if a game looks realistic people will give it a try but if it looks like anime it's icky and bad
>>337089643
>MGS
>relatively normal
Most of my friends still remember the scene of the guy shitting himself in MGS4
>>337089717
Don't lots of normal people like Minecraft? That's not anime, but I wouldn't call it realistic either.
>>337089497
Ni No Kuni
Trails of Cold Steel
Xenoblade X
>>337089497
Literally a game made to pander to nostalgiafags like yourself
>>337090161
What is this even about?
>>337091258
JRPG made by a new dev team that Square opened up. It's ATB and looks a lot like Chrono Trigger battle system wise.
>>337088672
Tackling morality, avoiding extreme isekai tier escapism, the stuff that would still convince Japan has potential has been stuck in Japan.
>>337089806
Can't be as bad as most panty quests
>>337080357
>the makers of super aleste made the neptunia games
My childhood is deaaaaaaad
>>337091402
>Tackling morality
>he believes that third grade level stories written by liberal arts college washouts have true merit
>>337089806
MGS makes up for the weird shit(and there is a fuckton of it) with everything else. Like, Game of Thrones has incest and homosex and, recently, granny tiddies but the plot and characters redeem it for normals
Nintendo and Sega went to shit and everyone else started selling generic anime shit. Every JRPG now looks like a tie-in to a light novel or a shitty anime no one outside Japan even heard of. Also games are really expensive these days.
>>337080357
>Niggerposter talking out of his ass
James Watson was right about you.
>>337091705
And what did JRPGs used to look like?
>>337091705
>everyone else started selling generic anime shit. Every JRPG now looks like a tie-in to a light novel or a shitty anime no one outside Japan even heard of
Kill yourself
>>337091705
>Every JRPG now looks like a tie-in to a light novel or a shitty anime
No it doesn't you dumb fucktard.
This whole thread is three retards spewing uninformed shit.
>>337091775
Are you really gonna sit there and try to tell me Dragon Quest ever mattered outside of Japan?
>>337091895
Okay, what about Chrono Trigger? They literally got some anime guy to design the characters.
>>337079826
UY is good though
>>337080852
shut up, faggot. anime literally means anything animated in japan. you can't have an outside culture's definition be the golden standard. americans have only seen maybe 10 shows and don't realize that there are tons of shows which don't fit the "standard" style (Doraemon, Gu Gu Ganmo, Nintami Rantaro, Ojarumaru, Shin Chan, Sazae san, Anpanman, in fact all but one of those are some of the longest running sows ever), especially before the 90s.
>>337091895
Dragon Quarter is often used as an example of one of the worst RPGs ever made. :^)
>>337092130
I didn't say it was bad.I just mean that I jacked off to it a few times, so it's totally possible.
>>337080470
>16 year old wife
Livin the dream
>>337092130
all those are family shows / for very small children
>>337091895
what JRPG mattered outside of japan then, besides Final Fantasy, which obviously had an anime style?
>>337079112
>greentexting in 1994
Holy shit
>>337092369
Please be bait
Anime is such a useless fucking buzzword in this context anyway. All of these shows are animated in Korea now, so what does it matter? I guess Justice League, Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot, and Men In Black: The Animated Series are "weeb shows" because DR Movie animated them as they also animated Kaiji, Hunter x Hunter, Cardcaptor Sakura, and what the fuck ever else Madhouse does. Would you faggots honestly compare Jonny Quest with Spongebob just because they're both American cartoons? Are you going to compare Wakfu and Asterix just because they are both French comedic fantasies? No? Then why the fuck are you comparing any given Japanese thing to to "anime" as a catchall term? Anime is quite varied anyway. I mean, shit, are you people going to claim that Shitcom and Naruto are the same thing just because Japanese guys came up with the idea?
>>337092132
But that's BoF, not DQ. Funny that you mention that, though. BoF is another series with character that /v/ would describe as looking like "anime"
>>337092409
They're literally greentexting in the exact same manner that we do. I don't understand how you can see it as anything else.
>>337092260
It's not about looking like Anime it's about not looking like some generic shit like Sword Art Online or Altelier which exists solely to pander to lonely virgins.
>>337092254
And? Are you going to say that Songebob isn't a cartoon because it's made for children? What does being for a younger audience have to do with it not using the style you're familiar with?
>>337092468
Stop posting retard
>>337092260
Pokemon, which is most known for its anime.
>>337092468
Define generic. Most Americans think of the DBZ style of drawing when they hear anime, most Mexicans and BRs think of Saint Seiya, Italians and French probably think of Mazinger, et cetera.
Alright this thread is shit. Here's what actually happened:
Japan was at its strongest right at the end of Gen 6. They were really efficient at the PS2 and had reached a level of production values that could reach an international mainstream audience. What happened after? In Gen 7, big western publishers started to make games that were geared towards very casual players (CoD, Ass Creed and so on) that didn't really require investment. And those games made it big. Meanwhile Japan struggled to find a convenient platform as PS3 wasn't the hit everyone wanted it to be, 360 was too western-centric and Wii had unpredictable third-party sales. So they ended up in this weird limbo where resources got divided and the air of insecurity held them back.
Generally speaking, westerners are better businessmen and Japanese are better developers. The businessmen of Japan made some pretty bad decisions. But in terms of games, Japanese games aren't worse today than they were 10 or 20 year or so ago. If anything they're even better in some regards. You cocksuckers obsess over Neptunia and other niche games so much as if it's the only Japanese games of the past decade.
>>337092509
mean really small, like preschool age. spongebob's demographic is older, we're talking like blues clues nick jr.
>>337092468
They should pander to you instead, a clinically retarded fuckface?
>>337092653
/thread
>>337092721
So Peppa Pig isn't a cartoon?
Because Japan used to make games of all kinds, both visually and thematically.
The only recent "serious" japanese games (both visually and thematically) I can mention off the top of my head are the Souls games.
Whereas during the SNES era, we had Demon's Crest, Terranigma, Actraiser, Contra etc.
The japanese have always pandered to certain demographics, true, but never has it been more widespread as it is now.
>>337092868
>muh srs games for srs gamers such as myself
>>337092868
What about Metal Gear Solid?
>>337092816
not familiar with it but things like doraemon are still distinct from western cartoons. shit look at stuff like speed racer, that was infamous for having bizarre lip syncing if nothing else
>>337092897
You misunderstand. I have no problem with more lighthearted games, but when that is pretty much all they produce, there is a lack of variety.
I've always felt that the arcades were a way to showcase current-gen jap skill. Arcade games were always a healthy step ahead of consoles and oftentimes even PC gaming, and the general lack of western devs at the arcade helped show us there was a bigger world to consider.
>>337092950
Forgot about MGS, though to be completely fair, even that is borderline campy instead of being played completely straight.
>>337092868
That's because you're a fucking retard that spends all his time on /v/ instead of actually playing Japanese games.
What about Monster Hunter? Or MGSV? Or Dragon's Dogma? Or Yakuza? Or Nier? Or Ace Combat? Or Bravely?
>>337092984
>>337092868
How do you determine what a "serious" game is?
If it doesn't look anime?
>be a small village in finland
>notice that there is a circle of kids who like and are good at retro vidya.
>faith in gaming restored
>>337093053
Do you think western games where you mindlessly kill millions of people are more "mature"? Even kiddy Japanese shit has more thematic depth to it than whatever M-rated western game intended for functionally brain-dead dudebros.
>>337092868
Disaster Report 4 is looking to be more serious when it comes to the issue of natural disasters that occur in Japan. Maybe you aren't looking hard enough.
>>337092965
You are literally moving goalposts. First you state that shows for kids don't count for having unique artstyles, and then you proceed to claim that these shows aren't unique anyway. Please tell me how you could instantly recognize The Adventures of Lolo the Penguin or Little Lulu and Her Little Friends as anime. And like >>337092409 said, what about Shitcom?
>>337093062
>Monster Hunter
>A game where you hunt monsters wearing retarded, oversized armor and wielding ridiculously massive weapons all the while accompanied by a comic relief cat person
>MGSV
>A campy B movie in videogame form
>Dragon's Dogma
>Legit example that I forgot about, good job
>Yakuza
>Fights so ridiculous that they are funny
>Nier
>Another one I forgot, nice going
>Ace Combat
>Arcadey dogfighting in a melodramatic, almost soap opera tier setting
>Bravely
>Yet another JRPG where a band of heroes defeats a great evil because they are such good friends
>>337093428
dunno what you're talking, first post was >>337092254, don't know why you're going out of the way to be polarizing and antagonistic
only argument was that kid's shows and anything from japan is "anime" and is going to seem bizarre to any normal, adjusted person in the anglosphere
>>337093062
>Monster Hunter
weeaboo giant sword unsheathes katana psssh nothin personnel kid shit
>MGSV
Fulton system. Do I even need to say anything else?
Dragon's Dogma
Stupid Berserk wannabe shit that is way too camp with dude dragons lmao
>Yakuza
If I wanted to watch the Sopranos, I'd watch the Sopranos.
>Nier
hurr dur so sad story muh drag on dragoon continuation about muh tragic sanstesticles father and his dickgirl best friend
>Ace Combat
Super duper flying Macross plane shit
>Bravely
Loli shit
>>337093635
How would a family show seem bizarre to Americans?
>>337093618
Alright, now name some "mature" western games.
My point is, determining a game's quality after its maturity is really subjective and also sort of childish because violence doesn't have to mean mature. If anything, violence is what immature people confuse for depth. I'd rather take a light-hearted RPG with some nice music and charming story over grim-dark MATURE SETTING MATURE VIOLENCE game any day of the week.
Well the only genre that still interests me is fightan and the Japanese are still on top of that market but honestly when looking back, i used to almost exclusively play Japanese games and never even thought about it. The only western games that i can remember really liking is is platformers like Crash and Jak and Daxter, a few D&D games, Everquest (RIP) and Mortal Memebat when it was still good.
>>337077824
The Xbox happened.
>>337094013
Fighting games have managed to retain some level of gameplay quality simply because the Japanese have had such a strong hold on it. It's very much a Japanese genre. MKX is a failure in terms of gameplay in comparison. And that's the biggest western fighting game.
>>337094013
MKX is the closest Mortal Kombat has gotten to remotely being good.
>>337093721
shin chan for example was localized as an adult off color comedy in the vain of samurai pizza cats
>>337093864
Planescape: Torment
Max Payne 1&2
Last of Us
System Shock 1&2
Red Dead Redemption
>>337091543
More merits than NAKAMA GA MAMORU!
>>337094218
>Last of Us
lel
>>337094219
in jap games / stories you are supposed to sympathize with the characters, not the general ideas they represent
>>337094218
These are some good games but generally speaking also very rare for western devs. Planescape is from the 90's and MP1-2 is also older than a decade. Nowadays, when a western dev tries to be "deep", it's usually just a code word for more fashionable gender and race agenda being forcibly shoved into a setting where it doesn't belong.
>>337094218
>Planescape: Torment
>Last of Us
Shit games, not really supporting the maturity = quality idealogy.Yeah I fucking said it Planescape played like ass and perpetuated this shit idea that gameplay plays second fiddle in RPGs.
>Max Payne
2 yes, 1 absolutely not.
>System Shock 1 and 2
Those games got plain goofy, they had stretches of seriousness at most.
"Nah".
>RDR
Idk I haven't played that one.
>>337094218
>the last of us
I'll give you the other ones (even though only RDR is relatively recent) but come on, now. That game uses the same shitty techniques to get you to care about characters that anime does. The pain of losing a child is such a cheap tactic and relying the physiological need to protect them is a sign that you're not a good writer. The ending is actually the worst part of that whole charade. Killing innocent people just because they're in the way of muh daughteru? Even though they're trying to help the world overall? You're going to be selfish enough to keep your petty attachment to your adopted child and screw humanity over? Also, there's that whole thing about how they try to present killing as an action you have to think about and determine whether or not it's moral.... a few scenes after you get done mowing down tons of human enemies.
>>337094219
You do realize that's not a good thing, right? That's like saying piss is better than shit. Yeah, The Walking Dead is a better show than Naruto, but why would I want to watch either shitty example of genre fiction instead of something that's actually good?
>>337094437
The japanese aren't much better with history, to be honest.
>>337077824
Two nukes were not enough.
>>337094554
I'd rather watch Naruto over TWD BELIEVE IT
>>337094219
You're the type of nigga that would get fucked by two hobo junkies in a dumpster and then brag to his friends about getting laid.
>>337094654
CARRRRLLL
>>337094636
its not world war I or 2, it's its own world which is SIMILAR to ours, they barely invented planes in this game
>>337094636
That's a fictional setting. Not in any ways a historical game. Meanwhile DICE is legit trying to pass off their SJW propaganda as being representative of WW1.
>>337094636
Yet we don't claim that Japanese games are trying to be realistic. Westcucks complain anime "anime" games being unrealistic/gay/stupid all of the time.
>>337094718
>>337094719
It's quite clearly inspired by WWII
>>337094786
inspired BUT not our world hence there may be some similarities but thats is all there is.
>>337094786
But it's still a fictional setting. It's not WW1 or WW2. It's not historical.
>>337094437
Why would anyone set a military FPS in WW1.
By far the most miserable fucking setting you could go for.
>>337095063
Too make people feel sad with their totally deep plot
>>337095063
It's a miserable setting but our socially aware Swedish devs will find a way to turn it into pop-corn entertainment as they shove in more and more 2016 "gender is a social construct!" politics into it. It's basically fanfic from the perspective of a Swedish SJW more than it is actual history.
People became too obsessed with story in games. It's why you see people praise shit like Uncharted
Over time it seems many people have forgotten the most important ingredient to a good gaming experience: The good game.
And by game I'm not referring to shader effects, high polygon counts, compelling story, or any of the other irrelevant nonsense I don't give a submarining fuck about. I mean the actual gameplay. The part where you control stuff and have it interact with other stuff and then your brain generates fun.
If I wanted a compelling story I'd read a book. There's only a few million of them already in existence, majority of which were written by people whose talents compare to the best video game writers, the same way Kobe Bryant's penis might compare to that of a poorly endowed tit mouse.
If enduring 90 minutes of CGI cutscenes dubbed with pornography-grade voice acting sounds exciting to you, I suggest you immediately open up your web browser, browse on over to your friendly neighborhood torrent site, and start downloading something called a MOVIE. Any of them really, because apparently you're very easily satisfied.
Perhaps I'm romanticizing the past here, but but I remember a time when most games were about being challenged to explore new gameplay mechanics, about learning and solving new puzzles, about improving your skills against all types of adversaries and about feeling proud of your accomplishments.
Now they're mostly shiny particle effected vessels guiding any soccer mom caliber gamer through a generic 3rd grade level story where anyone with a brain the size of a steroid shrunk testicle can pretend to be a hero and maintain a fantasy of NOT SUCKING BALLS AT VIDEO GAMES.
>B-but I need a reason for what I'm doing, motivation for my character, a back story!
Would you really need a backstory to play Atari games, you twat? How about football? Or Poker? If the process of playing a game isn't fun for you, then maybe you should find a different hobby.
Normies and reddit happened who are a very real threat to /v/ since 2015. The people who concerns this know exactly what I'm talking about, anyone denying it is part of the problem.
>>337095231
Fuck me, I see people praising the Turk's "actions" during Gallipoli these days.
>>337095308
But Japanese games never have good gameplay. Go on. Try to name one that isn't grinding weeaboo shit or button mashing anime fighting shit
>>337095308
Good gameplay still exists. It's just that nobody really cares. Discussion is usually boiled down to graphics/story/frame rate and it ends there. Because talking about gameplay actually requires you to play and understand the game rather than passively consume it like most people love to do these days.
Uncharted and those other western AAA wannabe movies are actually pretty bad stories too. They're only praised because the people that praise them haven't read many books or watched many movies.
>>337095597
>button mashing anime fighting shit
This is where you oust yourself as the retarded dudebro fucker you are. You would not be able to ever understand a fighting game with this brat mentality.
>>337095698
No you don't understand, he beat his friends by slamming heavy attack/projectiles over and over so all fighting games are trash.
>>337095698
>>337095824
To quote Yahtzee, "I tend to think something's wrong with a genre where you can spend decades learning every little nuance of the gameplay and still get beaten by a kid whose just randomly mashing buttons"
>>337096091
>To quote Yahtzee
>>337096091
If you play a fighting game for a decade and actually learn the game, you most definitely can beat any scrub by simply utilizing cheap shit that throws beginners off. Fuck Yahtzee. Fighting games, next to RTS's are probably the most skill-oriented genres out there.
>>337096091
>still get beaten by a kid whose just randomly mashing buttons
There's a reason why people say Smash isnt a fighter
>>337096091
Ah yes, to quote the casual who has literally never touched a fighting game outside of story mode ever.
Not how it works buddy. Beating a button-masher is a case of learning how to punish, which takes 30 seconds, and then you wipe the floor with their pre-pubescent asses.
If someone claims to be good at fighting games and eats shit from a kid farting out random attacks, they haven't even played the fucking game.
>>337089186
>i have no idea what PC98 is
you're genuinely fucking retarded if you think there was somehow "less" waifus in the 90's
>>337077824
Weebs and waifufaggotry pushed everyone away. They're the bronies or TGC neckboars that ensured the fad stayed among faggots with a few exceptions.
But I think that's mostly anime. Japan fames still sell the same pretty much and what used to appeal to westerners (Mario and Resident Evil) still do. One of the few genres that really take a hit was fighting games, but they kept adding and marketing waifufaggottry.
>>337096091
yahtzee is terrible at video games and you're an idiot if you take him seriously
>>337096597
No you're just a brainwashed westacuck
>>337095597
mgs
>>337096597
This retarded opinion has been posted and proven wrong in this very thread 3 or 4 times already. But I'll humor you a bit. Tell me how some fucktard you don't like affects your enjoyment of a single player game? I hate lout spics, but association football is still one of my favorite sports.
>>337077925
Kof98 has major flaws and is unbalanced as fuck. It's a fun game, but it's technically unimpressive. I have no idea how UC4 plays, but I know my fighting games and the dickriders on /v/ are no better than the hipster cancer who dickride pixel art games.
>>337096771
Does anyone on /v/ claim that KoF 98 is balanced? I don't think any of the praised fighting games here are. I mean, people love Turd Strike and MvC2 for some reason and those games are imba as fuck, but does anyone claim that they aren't?
>>337094437
>>337096597
Why don't you read the thread instead of proving yourself the retard we suspected you to be?
Just admit the west is blowing the fuck out of Japan and weaboos when it comes to good games. You degenerate fucking weebs .
>>337096942
>got BTFO earlier in the thread
>b-but we have sales guise
>>337096771
actually KOF98 is pretty balanced, almost every character is viable, of course some are easier to use than others though.
>>337096771
So I'm not allowed to like it because it's not really viable at a pro level outside of 4 or 5 characters, thus making it worse than a game that has basically no gameplay and a mediocre story as it's main selling point?
>>337077824
Because based Japanese companies like Capcom, Sega and SNK are dead.
Nintendo's still doing their thing, sort of. As much as some people think otherwise, Nintendo was never the be-all and end-all when it came to videogames.
Also what this anon said >>337096597
>>337096091
>To quote Yahtzee
into the fucking trash
>>337091402
Nigga western games don't tackle morality
>>337096942
What exactly is a "weeb" game? The term weeaboo has seemingly lost all meaning and I don't even know what it denotes anymore. Would it describe any of the following?
>has crazy over the top fighting and action associated with anime? (e.g., Devil May Cry)
>about Japanese mythology or history? (e.g. Nobunaga's Ambition)
>about "normal" stuff that just happens to take place in Japan. (e.g. 98 Koshien)
>developed by Japanese people, even if it isn't about Japan or features Japanese characters. (e.g. Operation Europe)
If so, I can see problems with all 4 of those definitions.
1. So is CoD Advanced Warfare an anime game? I mean, it has characters surviving multiple shots and still running full speed, not to mention jet packs.
2. By this board's definition, wouldn't Japanese mythology or history only be interesting to weeaboos? How is an interest in samurai less "weeaboo" than an interest in, say anime or Japanese pro wrestling? Because it actually happened? The same could be said of numerous deplorable events in history, but you're not studying the Tuol Sleng Genocide and glorifying Pol Pot.
3.Couldn't it be argued that you only care because it's about Japanese characters? How likely would you be to play a game that's the Indian or Kenyan equivalent of a game like Yakuza?
4. It was still developed by Japanese people, so shouldn't that "taint" it?
Is this just simple racism now? Have we reached the point where weeaboo no longer means an obsession with Japan's superiority but just anything associated with the country's output at all?
>>337094218
Those are some ancient fucking games
>>337094219
you're 15
>>337096771
So what's your favorite fighting game? Is it also what you consider the most balanced fighting game?
>>337097262
weeb is "anything Japanese that I don't like". Meaning it's an empty phrase coined by retards.
>>337096729
Fads are dictated by society.
If a house is built in a bad neighborhood it's price will be lower than a house built in a nicer neighboorhood. People that associate with an object help dictate that object's worth. Shoes and clothes go out of style mainly by the people who wear or don't wear them. If the cool kids aren't playing X game and talking about it then it isn't cool.
>single player games
Most if the best sellers are online MP games because westerners love to socialize. Most of the successful SP games are WRPGs for WRPGfags who traditionally never enjoyed Japanese games or their style. Everything else is niche.
>>337096682
And you're a brainwashed weeb. Better save up more money to spend on Grandblue Fantasy.
>>337077824
24/7 negative marketing by westaboos game makers and racists.
>>337077824
>>337097262
I remember a thread earlier today where people were dismissing Raiden V as weeaboo shit just because it's a Japanese game. You're right OP, I have no idea how we reached this point.
>>337097009
We have SALES because we have QUALITY and DEPTH. Notice how barely any Jap games are given good review let alone attention? It's because they suck
>>337097468
It's a tragedy. I thought atleast 4chan would be spared from the retardation but it has spread even here.
>>337097346
strangely enough most anti weebs are actually bigger weebs than the average anime fan if use the original definition
>>337097262
Weeb = Japanese made garbage. It also refers to their garbage taste shit eating fans
>>337097595
Kill yourself you ignorant newfag cancer
>>337097501
>we have QUALITY and DEPTH
You got the publisher dick in your mouth, that's what you got.
>>337097102
You know UC has had numerous MP and alternate modes since UC2 right? Crying that the story mode tells a story isn't viable when there are modes that focus on ganeplay.
>>337097331
I like MvC2 because it's broken as fuck. SF1 is the most balanced fighting game.
>>337097612
add more buzzwords next time, that will show anyone that dares insult the Glorious Nippon
>>337096940
I'm actually right. Weebs are really stupid and can't seem to handle the idea that people like to play with friends with what's popular.
>>337097614
Explain how any of those games don't deserve their spot. Show me Jap games in that period that surpass. Don't bother Because you fucking can't
>>337077824
>kiddies suddenly hate everything Japanese
jap games have longevity and collecting appeal, not just here BTW.
no one cares about western shit on the hipster/gamer facebook groups i belong to,
everyday here and there (facebook, leddit) there are multiple threads here of chrono trigger, FF6, fft, Persona, SMT,dark souls, Sonic, Megaman, MGS. etc and zero or 1 thread of Last of Us, ASSCreed Syndicate, Dragon Age, Fallout 4, Mortal Kombat X
>>337097736
Proving everyone's point, that you're just a bitch following popularity trends
>>337097698
you're a hypocrite
>>337097789
Are we talking Jap Games or Weeb games? Because there is an important difference here, most people enjoy Jap games but are negative towards Weeb games.
Most of the games you mentioned are Jap games. Weeb games are the shit with the titty ninjas and what ever the fuck FE is turning into.
>>337097946
see
>>337097262
Clueless fucktard
>>337097946
The difference is anime. Anime games are garbage much like anime itself
>>337097438
So what you're saying is that you hate black people and wouldn't by anything they make because they're poor? That's really all I could get out of this. I think you're way too concerned with the opinions of others. This may be a hard concept to grasp, but even if something has bad fans, the average person won't know anything about it. Do you think that some guy that watched Catdog on TV is going to know about furries? You have to look this shit up to even get mad about it.
>>337097828
Are you really stupid? I don't play any of the best sellers and I'm strictly into PC games and primarily waste more time modding than anything. I'm just pointing out the obvious to idiots who couldn't even sell food to the hungry.
>>337097632
So KoF 98 is bad for being broken, but that's why you like MvC2? Is it because the latter is much more obviously broken?
>>337097632
The gameplay isn't really that good either. It's just a console third person shooter. Can you even use a mouse and keyboard with it?
>>337097763
>watch dogs
self explanatory everyone hates it
>COD AW
this is fine because its the first cod game in ages thats actually different and not a rehash
>FIFA
its the same game thats rehashed on a yearly basis
>destiny
self explanatory everyone hates it and bungle
>asscreed
dying franchise that getting fewer and fewer sales
>far cry 4
its a rehash
>>337098002
I ignored that post because its a shitton of words about nothing you fucking delusional weeb.
It's common knowledge now that most Japanese Devs are going for the lowest demonating with their games because it rakes in cash hand over fist. Once they really were on the cutting edge of game development, peaking in the mid to late 90's but now it's all trash. Nothing but panty quests and dating sims with blank state protagonists so you can self insert that much easier.
>>337098039
if a Japanese video game has cutscenes that makes it anime because it was animated in japan
>>337098072
Yeah there are people who won't buy shit from black people. It's a lot less of struggle than it was a century ago, but don't expect Tyrone to sell much in certain towns.
Thanks for bringing up racism though. More evidence to show weebs and tumblrites are one and the same.
>>337098306
>I ignored that post
because it proved you wrong. Keep being an ignorant fucker on purpose.
>>337098306
>i know nothing and i'm going to broadcast my ignorance for the thread to see
Embarassing.
>>337077824
Memes happened.
>>337098306
Eh, I'll condense it for you.
>Is Gran Turismo weeb, it's a Japanese game about race cars?
>Is 98 Koshien weeb, it's a Japanese game about baseball?
>Is Devil May Cry weeb, it's a Japanese game about sword fighting guys shooting at things in slow motion?
jap devs have artistic integrity, their industry is not completely dominated by the suits (except for Capcom)
>>337077824
reddit invaded with normalfags and sjws everywhere. no really it's the actual reason.
>>337098146
Said Kof is fun, but I wouldn't call Kof or MvC2 technically good. There are flaws that bother me, but could bother people more alert.
>>337098306
how old are you?
>>337077824
something about western games competing for market share from japanese games so western companies try to copy japanese as well as run propaganda campaigns against them
>>337098359
>>337098367
>Japanese devs are as good as ever shut up shut up I can't hear you la la la la la
Trends in gaming of changed so much and most Jap devs just couldn't keep up. They either went under or just marketed shit to the guaranteed cash cows (ie, horny teenagers and weebs)
>>337098348
>I'm racist but you're still bad for pointing it out.
>>337098106
So you're a weirdo neckbeard yourself that can only enjoy game via breaking them, but then looks down on WRPGFags?
>>337096771
>unbalanced as fuck
other than the bottom 8 characters (so, shit like Lucky at high level -- he styles on people who are bad but can barely hit Iori or the other high-tiers when played by someone decent other than luck, Brian -- who has literally two good moves and the rest are garbage (at least screw body press is retarded good), Rugal -- who is gimped as fuck in an effort to be "fair", etc), you can play anyone and expect to win
like, sure, Iori/Chizuru/Daimon are fucking retarded, but KOF98 has more viable characters than most games have characters, period
>>337093618
>>MGSV
>>A campy B movie in videogame form
I really wish that were true
>>337098446
>mobage
A lot of Jap games shove in shit that will be popular in their home country. You think it's artistic, but all I see are statistics. Cap com tries to appeal to the west with some if their IPs.
Does every thread about Japanese games have to devolve into angry Americans yelling about how much they hate anime? Are you people going to start calling Crash Bandicoot retarded looney tunes shit next or something?
>>337098525
You're just proving me right
>>337098516
if you don't read what they say no one is going to take you seriously
>>337098659
no, they're going to call it weebshit
>>337098106
What do you mod that isn't WRPGs?
>>337094158
and it's still a massive lump of shit.
>>337098348
if /pol/ was deleted would you leave this site?
>>337098442
how many of those game you just menioned have 13 year old girls with double D's showing off their panties?
People still like good Japanese games. This isn't a debate. The problem is that the market is getting more and more dominated by otaku pandering, which is a direct parallel with modern anime trends.
Now this is the part where you say
>lmao how old are you newfagot XD
>thats always been there
And sure, it has but never at the main focus of the gaming trends. It's never been so big that it forced devs not making those type of games into making pachikino machines or whatever
>>337098725
What does Crash Bandicoot have to do with anime?
>>337097946
So it's not weeaboo if it has no sex? Is God Of War a weeaboo game?
>>337098817
It would be painful
