ITT: the biggest failures in video game history
>>337072414
i hate tortanic so much i want it to get shut down so we can get swg pre-cu back
It really pisses me off how successful of a cash-cow they turned this piece of shit game into by adding lottery boxes.
>>337072414
Its actually making a profit now so I guess thats wrong.
TORTANIC ruined /v/.
Ever since then, no matter what it is, everyone on /v/ thinks they're cool for hoping that ships sink.
You all might be new to /v/ and might not have been around for TORTANIC, but honestly, every single game comes out is doomsayed into OBLIVION because of this game. No matter the actual quality of the game, people who haven't played it will shit on it into oblivion.
Street Fighter V was not fucking TORTANIC 2 you retards, neither was Wild Star, Final Fantasy 14, Dark Souls 3 or ANY other game that has come out recently.
Post sony/11
Pre NGE it was...well it was fucking fun. I still hate sony for this shit.
>>337072830
Hellgate: London.
THAT was the pre-SWTOR Titanic.
>>337072830
/v/ was ultimately a very small minority that didn't do much if any damage at all.
There isn't any outside source that properly describes what "Tortanic" was. Can someone please give me the general rundown of what happened?
>>337072414
It actually turned a profit and is still making money. So no it isn't even close to being the biggest blunder ever.
>>337073032
Hellgate : London
......feels....
>>337072830
>Wild Star
To be fair, Wild Star was a pretty big failure.
>>337072414
are you 12 or something ? game is still making money
>>337073156
That game had some seriously nice concepts to work with, and John Romero saw the iceberg coming, and said "FUCK IT, RAM THE BITCH."
All hands were lost.
>>337073048
Of course /v/ doesn't fucking affect anything. I mean that content on /v/ has been ruined because of Tortanic. You can't talk about any unreleased game without some non-direct reference to Tortanic. Even kiddos who weren't around when Tortanic happened are still subtly affected by its aftermath and spout the same shit.
That ffxiv mmo from 2010 might be the biggest fucking failure of all time. unless someone can prove me wrong this is just my opinion.
>>337073058
>rundown of what happened?
game gets hyped to heavens
turns out those wings were made of wax
the cruel sun of reality melts those wings
game comes crashing down
lands on a whole bunch of whales that start crying about I dont even care to remember
and the observers in the sideline laugh and laugh till the end of rines
>>337073513
So how was this different from, say, MGS5? Was everyone on the whole board hype, or...?
>>337073673
it was mostly the biodrones on biowares forums the comments and the actions of the mods were nuts
stanrey woo was the best mod, too bad he got canned
>>337073673
everyone here was anti-hype
Everyone else was mega hyped. People followed Bioware into the depths of the sea.
>>337073370
Well, it was a massive failure that became a surprising success story, so hard to say.
>>337073673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS6YwX1-K4w
>tfw you find out that f2p tortanic is raking money in hand over fist
There is no justice in the world.
>>337072830
FF14 was really shit though.
>>337073048
Exactly, but certain retards on /v/ didn't realize that.
>>337074060
did they remove the no dance zones?
>>337072414
>failure
>still running at a profit, recently released an expansion with more content planned for the future
>every mmo that doesn't operate at 10 million players is an abject failure
i want this failure meme to die.
>>337073010
>lost 70% of its subscribers over the course of a year after NGE
kek, it's hilarious to me they never made classic servers. they fucking deserve it.
League of Legends just destroys Dota 2, and I don't know anyone that play Dota 2.
>>337072414
Is it really that bad?
I was gonna give it a shot eventually but now I'm reconsidering.
>>337072610
Wow imagine that it's finally making a profit after what? 5 years of being a laughing stock and having to go F2P?
What an accomplishment
>>337074543
it should've been a single player game
it's still not very good at that, the stories are rather cringey
but that's modern bioware for you.
>>337074335
Well once you kill yourself there's one less failure around so get to it faggot
>>337074516
>>337074516
Still making infinite money.
>>337074543
it's alright if you want to play for a single player rpg or if you want to play PVP arenas.
Raiding is trash tho, and most every event deals with buying loot crates from random loot. Its the way they make money now
>>337072610
>>337074594
No, it's one of the most profitable MMOs on the market. The game is on its fifth expansion.
You have no idea what kind of money a half-decent Star Wars game pulls in.
>>337072830
>Wild Star
I think Wild Star failed considering the amount of hype it at at launch to the quick decline to f2p. Although /v/ had nothing to do with that or any other games failure.
>>337074108
And despite that, it still has a sub and is one of the more alive MMOs on the market. It may have been an awful game that was turned into a by the books MMO, but it wasn't Tortanic levels.
>>337074516
>>337072414
It's not a terrible game, and it's been making money for a couple years now since they tweaked a couple things. You're just butthurt you didn't get KOTOR 3 and nothing anyone ever says will ease that pain for you. This is why you feel it necessary to make threads to bash games that are, all things considered, still doing well.
While I absolutely loathe ToR for what it did to KOTOR's story, I don't think it was THAT bad and seems to be one of the better MMO's on the market currently, even if it is little more then a WoW ripoff.
Original FFXIV and ESO were far bigger flops in my book.
>>337073058
It was mostly just the Biodrone one the official forums that made it pretty epic. I'm sure someone else has some screenshots of it but the most memorable one I can remember was a Biodrone using the logic that ' a16% loss of subscribers is a good thing because it means that the game has more room to grow' or something like that.
>>337072830
Wild Star is a perfect example of a proper Tortanic 2
The game died within 2-3 months of launch, and went F2P inside of a year.
do people still play eso? honest question here
>all these biodrones damaging controlling the TORtanic
It was all because of /v/ TORtanic failed, making it one of the biggest failures of all time.
Deal with it.
>>337074543
Know what you're in for. The combat is dated (think wow pre-cataclysm) and it isn't the greatest visually. It makes up for that with fantastic class stories and interesting characters. It's well worth it if you're in the mood for Star Wars.
>>337074682
Gotta say famalam, you need to step up your banter. This is amateurish at best.
>>337072414
Literally every game nowadays is the biggest blunder. According to the threads on here anyway.
>>337072414
I love when people make lists or comments about a video game being a "huge failure" and its like a top 1000 video game. Nigger there are 100's of thousands of video games, you have no idea what real failure or what a really bad game is actually like.
>>337073193
The funniest part is Blizzard will never admit that sending all of their top WoW devs to work on a game that ultimately got shitcanned while their flagship game went down the fucking toilet.
That interview they were like "we weren't used to failing" meanwhile ignoring the whole "oh while we sent a bunch of WoW devs over subs tanked and in a mere six months we lost 6 million subscribers"
Actually, Modern WoW has taken a shit ton of elements from TOR
>>337074516
Tell that to the millions and millions and fucking millions of dollars Valve is making on hats.
>>337075059
>fantastic class stories
Don't lie to the poor kid, the only good class story is the Inquisitor.
>>337075039
too soon
Fucking christians.
>>337073673
Don't know, never understood why. I just wanted KotOR 3 and ever since they announced the game going MMO the whole franchise died for me.
>>337072830
Good pasta
>>337072414
Damn I was 13/14 when that game came out and starwars was still relatively new to me
>>337075213
>inquisitor
Are you actually serious? Inquisitor over Agent and Warrior?
>>337074750
Why did Wildstar fail, exactly? I thought it was because both its initial and F2P launches were trainwrecks, but I don't know much about the game when it was first released. I remember hearing it was a failure, but no reason why.
>>337075307
>agent
Oh shit, that was the one I meant, thanks.
>>337075342
Their opening raid attunement was such a chore that they literally had less than 5 guilds able to field enough people to do them.
>>337075342
I saw some gameplay and it looked pretty interesting at the time, especially that fort building/tower defence thing they had going. The one raid boss where the floor constantly collapsed and made the arena smaller was cool as fuck too
>>337075342
They catered to the hardcore audience that didn't exist anymore.
Leveling was a chore, there were long and difficult attunements to unlock the raids, and the dungeon/raid difficulty was too much for the majority of casual players.
>>337075342
It has many flaws, such as
-Needing a beefy PC to run despite looking arguably worse than WoW, a 9 year old game at the time of Wildstar's launch
-Juvenile humor that a 15 year old would cringe at
-A very questionable combat system based on telegraphs, both from you and your enemies, so PvP is an incomprehensible light show
-Ridiculous raid and dungeon attunements combined with a "git gud or git out" attitude about them
All that combined with a monthly fee when f2p games were beginning to take over as the norm and Wildstar flopped hard.
it went f2p in under a year and has never really managed to get much of a following. It's a real shame because the game had a lot of potential, but the team that's left can't do much with it. They've taken budget cut and staff cuts repeatedly, and it's looking like NC is just going to axe the game next year.
>>337075039
>the aquatic stage
>stock game planet editor
>creatures used to actually bang instead of doing the retarded dances they do now
>>337072414
>Literally better than WoW in literally every way except literally only playerbase which literally isn't even the case anymore
"""""""""""""TORTANIC""""""""""""" had a terrible launch but it was always a better WoW. People are finally starting to realise this and now SWTOR is making mad profits.
>>337075672
I still see people complaining about easy linear raids though?
>>337075132
In the wake of Titan getting shitcanned, we got Destiny and Overwatch instead.
And fuck both of those games. They're both shit, Titan never saw the light of day, and WoW went to shit in the meanwhile. Truly this is the bad end universe.
Post Tortanicfag here
Just how hype was this game ?
>>337075342
>NCSOFT
Dead on arrival
>>337075887
when people say something good about tor i remember that webm
>>337074543
Treat it as KoTOR 3 and you'll have a good time. That's what everyone else does. It's a mediocre MMO that should have been a single player game.
>>337075213
>>337075307
They're all pretty decent but Imperial Agent should have been its own game. It's genuinely good.
>>337072830
dude wild star flopped hard
>>337075905
I've seen people complaining about that in WoW, I haven't seen anyone talk about Wildstar recently.
>>337076314
The raids in Wildstar aren't necessarily easy, but they can get old pretty quickly.
>>337074594
They literally recovered all what they invested in the game on the 1st month just selling the games and since then it's one of the most profitables MMO on the market. It's far away from "failure".
>>337074543
No it's not.
If you are expecting a WoW-like MMO this is not your game.
If you are expecting KOTOR3 with multiplayer interactions, dude you are in for a good ride.
Also space dogfighting battles are cool and the PVP is very fast paced.
>>337075342
Literally?
It was too good for the common MMO audience (wow players).
>>337074776
The other anon was talking about the original FFXIV. That was a fucking MMO cataclysm.
Some years after they re-released the whole game again calling it "A Realm Reborn" and since then it's good.
>mfw Squareenix themselves knew they did the worsts of the shits mmo and before closing the servers they released an ingame cinematic destroying the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39j5v8jlndM
>>337072830
/v/ seems pretty obsessed with wanting every game to be the next Tortanic.
>>337082576
This. TOR is still getting updates and expansion.
Evolve however is dead as fuck.
Also while Bioware hyped up TOR, Evolve had way more of a "GAME OF E3" bullshit going for it, and then fell flat on its face.
>>337072830
>Wild Star
holy shit, forgot that even existed
Off the top of my head:
Kinect
PsMove
PS Allstars Battle
Crysis 2 - 3
DmC
Titanfall
Brink
Dragon Age: Inquisition
Dead Space 3
all pretty bad
![too_human_xbox360_esrb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rDvkzi5.jpg "too_human_xbox360_esrb[1].jpg")
Failed so hard court ordered all copies destroyed since devs couldn't pay for engine license.
I don't think any game has failed that hard before.
Maybe not a total critical, comercial, or even audience failure, but I've never seen a title damage such a huge and storied franchise as badly as this.
>>337082878
Titanfall couldn't have failed that badly if it's getting a sequel.
>>337072414
Its actually very profitable for EA despite not being WoW in terms of popularity.
irony
>>337082918
That was more of the fact they tried to sue Epic though and got raped with a counter suit.
>>337072514
Just go play SWGEMU
>>337083042
Titanfall made profit. It far from a financial failure. It's popularity just didn't last.
just wait
>>337072414
Don't forget SFV and XIV
bask in the QUALITY.
>>337075820
>creatures could bang
I can live with not seeing some of the abominations I created bump uglies.
>>337083363
>>337074776
>one of the more alive MMOs
Yeah, on one server full of ERP furfaggots maybe. XIV is a bomb from start to finish. The sooner you accept this the better.
>>337083456
Not him but you can't expect anyone to believe the rest of the game isn't just as shit.
>>337083456
all the animation is pretty shitty
>>337072414
>failure
I mean, it's a bad game sure but they got their money back ten fold when it went F2P
>>337082576
Based on the hype, they could have made a shitload of money on day one... the open beta literally killed the game even before release
>Tfw the BH Story
>Tfw replayed it at least 3 times
I fucking love the story of all the 8 Classes just treat it as a singleplayer game and do all the quest and you'll have a good time trust me
>>337083459
What? FF14 is active on plenty of servers outside of legacy and RP servers. The game is shallow and casual, and considered shit to a lot of people, but it's hardly a game that is failing financially or even critically.
>>337083637
>free to play
>FREE
>to
>play
>hurr they got their money back
Haha oh wait you're serious
>>337073156
Hellgate London would've made a massive profit if they released it later. It was far ahead of its time.
>>337083363
>>337083567
>>337083546
Requesting video where the guy runs up and stabs someone with a syringe from off camera.
>>337083750
>plenty active
>it's hardly a game that is failing financially or even critically
And yet you have no numbers to back any of that up.
>>337083363
Are these generic animations just strung together to make a cuteness, or specifically animated?
>>337083763
Don't underestimate the BRs giving away their banana bucks.
>>337083763
the game forces the player to buy shit anyway so it probably worked
>>337083456
As in you cherry pick the good parts of the game and ignore all the shit stuff? Yeah, I know you do, Biodrone.
Blade & Soul, although i'm not surprised coming from NCSoft. And they did a lot of money out of all the idiots who paid for a yearly subscription.
>>337083885
when has that ever happened in this shithole of a board?
>>337074014
What success? Little endgame besides grinding? 2.5 second global cooldown or the unplayable PVP that has yet to be fixed
>>337083865
>>337083867
>BRs
>spending money
>it probably worked
Hahahaha
>>337083975
I see you're unfamiliar with the rampant shit taste on neo-/v/.
>>337084020
EA is making another expansion so yeah its clearly working
>>337083363
i want tortanic gone i've had it hearing about this pile of shit /v/ did a great thing but we didn't get the killing blow in
its high time we do /v/
>>337074014
>>337083982
XIV players bought into the meme that the reboot is a huge success when there's no numbers anywhere to support that claim. Square is 100% silent on the topic.
>>337084093
And this is the sort of "evidence" they provide.
>Oh they made an expansion it must be successful
Yeah, or the company that was retarded enough to drop millions on a disaster is still retarded and flushing money down the toilet. One of the two.
>>337083763
Are you serious? Do you live under a rock anon?
>>337084196
if a company is keeping an mmo alive then it means that they're making money
>>337084376
>Yeah, or the company that was retarded enough to drop millions on a disaster is still retarded and flushing money down the toilet.
>>337084196
As of last month subs went up 31% more than launch. So yes, it was a massive success anon. Even if it's garbage the BRs & europoors eat it up
>>337084673
Citation needed.
>>337084623
you're retarded
![2e1eae45[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/vgr3VwU.png "2e1eae45[1].png")
>>337083859
Because SE doesn't actually release any actual numbers. There are articles that cover SE claim that FF14 is the major reason for it's profit growth, but that's about it.
The closest thing you'll get to active numbers are population server based on stats from their community site that tracks achievement clears.
http://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/47379481.html
So, the game is casual as fuck, but that doesn't mean that the game is a financial failure. I don't know why you are so adamant to acknowledge that SE is actually making profit out of it. Do you hate the game so much that you think that reality bends to your will and the game is actually in the red as a result?
>>337084623
Of course, I forgot EA are well known for continuing to support things if they aren't as successful as they hoped, Can't wait for Westwood, bullfrogs and Origins next game
>>337072414
Somebody told me they just deiced to start
and I didn't have the heart to tell him
>>337074516
Lmfao. Valve make so much fucking money with Dota 2 that even Blizzard is still asshurt to this day.
>>337072830
MGSV is a contender for Tortanic 2
>>337084803
Those numbers aren't reliable, especially considering you can make 8 characters per account. The person who does those never talks much about the criteria he uses. There's no chance that game has over 200k concurrent subs.
>>337084813
>continuing to support things that aren't successful
Like ToRtanic?
>>337084898
This.
>valve steals dota / wc3
>blizzard steals TF2
>>337084898
So asshurt, that they made a better version of Dota 2
>>337085205
And even with 200K sub, you would consider the game a failure overall? That is still at least 2.6mil if you use the lowest sub rate. At what number would you consider the game not a failure then?
>>337085205
I'm quite interested why you think EA has suddenly stopped giving a fuck about closing down unprofitable shit seemingly just for swtor according to you
OP is fucking retarded
E.T for Atari is the biggest failure.
>>337085514
I don't know if streamlining an already streamlined game is making it better.
>>337083835
That was in the beta and then removed because of how bad it was.
>>337073010
If any game needed to make classic servers it was this game. It blows my mind that they never did it.
the way they marketed Mustafar and the "new creatures for Creature Handler" only to remove it from theg ame was so shitty.
I am super salty about this.
>>337085598
I said there's 0% chance of that being true. I don't doubt they make some of their money back with expansions. If they had 200k concurrent subs that would make it somewhat successful, but it's painfully obvious that it doesn't.
You have to remember just how much they lost from XIV 1.0. They lost Sony as a major shareholder. Their franchise bombed out entirely. All of their talent was either let go or quit outright. They've been reduced to "remastering" Final Fantasy games onto mobile and PC. Their final hope is Final Fantasy 7 remake which a literal retard with half his or her brain missing could not fuck up, but they're doing their fucking hardest to make it happen man.
>>337085514
>>337086103
The only good thing about HotS is the music and playing the Lord of Terror. That's all.
>female
>barbarian
What the fuck blizz.
>>337086103
HOTS boils the MOBA genre down to the fun parts: team fighting, and objective control
Almost no laning phase, no playing whack-a-mole with minions until you can buy a stat-stick
>>337075791
Wildstar legitimately made my eyes hurt. I don't know if it was the artstyle or camera or animations but I couldn't play it longer than 30 min. And the gameplay wasn't that good either way.
>>337082489
SHIT. SHIIIIIIIIT
>>337074979
I do. It's kind of a shame it failed, at least they tried something different with the class system instead of being a WoW clone like most other MMO's. If you play it as multiplayer Skyrim it's not too bad.
The biggest problem with TOR and ESO was people didn't want an MMO, they wanted single player. Hell, most people play both of those games as single player RPGs.
>>337072414
Only great thing about the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgq5D1IeHcI
>>337074027
I'm just gonna post this then leave because I know everybody is gonna ignore it anyway. Interferes too much with the hivemind.
Is there anyone in swtor that'll love me like my boo bastila did?
>>337092907
Wow dude, those are some great stats from three fucking years ago.
>>337092907
Does TERA really still make that kind of money?
>>337083227
Is it actually in a reasonable state yet?
>>337082489
This. They just constantly advertise it as FROM THE PEOPLE WHO MADE BORDERLANDS but that isn't enough. I didn't even know the game was out already. Whats with all of these TF2 clones coming out this year?
>>337074516
Only difference between League and Dota 2 is that League is more casual and pay to win.
That's it. Those are all the differences summed up. If you want a more casual game and don't mind spending real money on tangible content, play League.
>>337084163
>/v/ did a great thing
/v/ has zero effect on the industry. Stop glorifying this containment board you underage shit.
>>337083456
Hello Bioware.
>>337072414
I cant be the only person who enjoys the storyline right? The Sith Inquisitor story was enjoyable
>>337075791
The attunement process would have been alright if there was a fucking incentive to run the dungeons once you've completed them once on silver. As far as I remember you pretty much got the same quality items from adventures, which were easier by a mile, than actually running dungeons. Consequently no one wanted to run that shit anymore once they got their silver medals. Making the attunement process a huge pain in the ass for everyone who wasn't there with the first dudes.
>>337095247
Sith Inquisitor storyline was alright.
What wasn't alright was everything else.
>locking skill cast times to animations
>when you have talents that reduce said cast times by 0.5s
>WHICH IN TURN DOES NOTHING SINCE IT'S FUCKING ANIMATION LOCKED
GODDAMNIT
>>337094220
It's not really a tf2 clone it's just devs trying to feed off the popularity of mobas and smite and overwatch in particular
>>337095247
The storylines are pretty much the only reason to play it. Gameplay is mediocre, dungeons and pvp aren't worth your time.
>>337072414
TOR was a huge disappointment, but it made a profit. Something like FFXIV 1.0 was a much bigger disaster. And even FFXIV 2.0 and beyond is almost tied with TOR for active players.
>>337095247
Pretty much everyone plays it for the story, that's why there's so much hype for 12XP events.
>>337095247
Since story was the whole selling point of the game, that's pretty much all you should play it for. The Imperial Agent story was good enough that it could have been released as a stand alone, single player game. Most of the others, not so much.
>>337079174
You mean a single player mmorpg? Like Xenoblade or Dragon Age?
This is all baby-level shit. Let me tell you of the horrors of the late '90s.
>Hyped up to high heavens by one of the masterminds behind the (then) hottest game series, DOOM
>Delayed year after year with unimpressive tech demos
>"T-The next E3 is going to be better!"
>The final demo could only run at 12 fps
>It finally comes out to mediocre fanfare
>It's a buggy, unplayable, laggy mess with piss poor level design
>Ion Storm implodes
The only good thing to come out of Daikatana was Deus Ex, ironically enough.
>>337079174
>If you are expecting a WoW-like MMO this is not your game.
Actually, that's exactly what it is.
>>337073156
I keep saying I liked that game, it only needed a few more dev months to be cool, and some maintenance of course.
>>337093949
No JTL last time I checked a few months back, and still no plans to advance it until "muh ground game" is finished.
So, no.It will never be the same anyways.
>>337075213
Trooper is pretty damn good. Basically mass effect.
>>337075342
Speed runs, aka the most shitty and autistic thing in gaming, were required to be completed before you could raid. Did I also mention the speed runs had huge RNG due to random events and run ending bugs?
WoW vanilla never had speed runs required for anything, so why the fuck did wildstar think that was what hardcore meant?
>>337075342
People think they wanted to, turns out they didn't.
Literally.
>>337099018
Nah. Unless you play war crime trooper in which case it's somewhat salvageable.
