>bethdrones will defend this
>>337042863
defend what?
>>337042863
What are we supposed to be looking at, /k/?
>>337042863
is that a mod? Did someone mod that shitty fucking gun back into FO4?
>>337043426
>>337043542
The ejection port is on the left side.
>>337043850
they make left handed guns
>>337043850
>cue Bethesda's "We don't know guns" quote
But that's right. Lefties are superior after all
What's the hate for the lever gun in FO4? It's literally the only gun that doesn't look half bad with all that pipeshit.
>>337043850
And so does every weapon in that game, so what?
It's a mod
>>337043830
>is that a mod? Did someone mod that shitty fucking gun back into FO4?
Far Harbor DLC
>>337043850
>>337044185
In FO4, your character is right handed. You're ejecting scalding hot brass right in your face becuase:
1: Bethesda "doesn't know guns"
2: EJECTING SHELLS ARE FUCKING COOOOOOOL
>>337042863
>one of the few guns that is a gun and not some PVC pipe monstrosity
Fucking depressing.
>>337044907
I like the one on the right, modern revolvers are okay. The thing is, a game could have had both of those.
>>337044770
>Fucking depressing.
It's fucking depressing how much of a downgrade it is from the NV awesome Brush gun.
The lever action rifle has a firing rate as if operating a bolt action rifle with arthritis and is ridiculously inaccurate, that thing has spread like a one shot blunderbuss. You can reliably miss at point blanc range.
>le creative steampunk pipe junk weapons xDDD
>beth will never be able to design good weapons
>even a fucking mod is left handed
why?
>>337044989
The one on the right is relatively modern too. Looks like a 20th century smith. I'm not enough of a smiff fag to autistically know all of their models despite owning a couple.
>>337044527
I knew this DLC was just Point Lookout 2.0so I'm looking forward to it
>>337045579
Those were steampunk? They just looked like regular zip guns made out of junk.
>>337046372
>I knew this DLC was just Point Lookout 2.0 so I'm looking forward to it
Far Harbor is really what FO4 should have been from a quest perspective. They are all way more in-depth and have actually branching paths. For the three main factions of the island, their main quest lines intermingle at pretty much every quest stage with your choice who to support.
>>337045579
You do realize the weapon in your picture was designed by Bethesda (based on an original FO1 sprite)?
>>337045934
Yeah, it was my mistake to imply it isn't modern.
>>337042863
/k/ autism combined with /v/ autism is a bit too much m8
>>337047390
Far Harbor really feels like that Skyrim Jam all over again: "Here is all that cool stuff that we whipped up in a week while the main game that took years is bland as shit."
>>337042863
What is the lever for? It looks like you pull it so it opens the hole you reload from.
>>337043850
That's most video games though because developers feel like it's more "cool" when the casings fly at your face.
>>337042863
>>337044907
>>337045579
>it's the "let's compare modded shit with vanilla shit" thread
Is Fallout 4 really this perfect that you can't come up with anything else?
Fuck, never thought I'd see a game beat /v/, I thought you guys were suppose to be good at being contrarian?
>>337045579
i didn't mind the idea of junk weapons being the more prevalent ones in a post apocalyptic setting with weapons like the sniper rifle in your image being a less than common find and the one that lasts longer , doesn't jam and has a higher damage output and overall better perfomance ; in fact i would argue that it would add an extra layer to the game .But of course Bethesda had to screw that one good concept up by removing gun condition and maintenance and adding legendary weapons like no reload double barrel shotguns and flamers that freeze stuff
The only silver lining is that thereprobablyhas to be a NV mod that replaces most guns you find in game with ghetto nigger-rigged variatons of them
>>337042863
Isn't the top one with modded textures
>>337048138
Shhh stop making sense and just shitpost.
>>337048138
No?
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Trail_carbine
>>337045453
Not to mention the damage isn't as high as it probably should be. Once more the base game has the overseer's guardian. Best rifle you can get ever and is better than everything. Not to mention how shit the harpoon gun is.
>>337048138
No.
>>337043850
Wouldn't that hit a right handed person in the face with a hot shell?
Sorry i don't know much about guns.
>>337048138
pic related is restored cut content
>>337047390
Bullshit. Sorry but no. So far I've run into none of that. None of the quests have done that. You move from one area to the next doing side quests, then you're done, then the next area.
>>337048018
>Is Fallout 4 really this perfect that you can't come up with anything else?
no, is not you shill.
fallout 4 have the worst gun in the series, and the laser and plasma wepapons are so fucking lame.
if you defend anything from beth and his little lies, please end your life painfully
I don't care too much about comparing 4's weapons to NV's. I just started Survival last night and it's pretty fucking fun, considering I couldn't stand playing the other mode for more than 20 minutes once I was a god.
>new vegas is good meme
there hasn't been a good fallout since 2, fuck off retards
>>337048018
>Modded shit
Anon those are all vanilla weapons
>>337049282
I liked tictacs though
>>337049282
>he thinks Fallout 2 was good
dude ghosts lmao
dude talking plants omg
dude radscorpion chess epic
>>337049192
>I just started Survival last night
>bethshitsta has to make an extra dlc-mode to have survival feature
>it was already implemented in NV
Just for the sake of it, does F4 has at all any flowers/plants? Can you even cook recipes?
Can you make medicine or toxins?
>ayylmaos
>supermutants
>mininukes
>robbie the robots
>people turning into trees
>What is this? Left handed guns? Do they think I'm an idiot?
>>337044561
STALKER does the same shit
>>337045579
>everyone going insane over the steampunk rattle snake look.
>no one noticed that the trigger is OUTSIDE the fucking trigger guard
>>337049505
Yes, but the amount of stimpacks is insane, you dont even need food
I can't fucking stand when games put the ejection port or bolt on the wrong sides of guns, it triggers my autism so much
>>337049505
FO4 Survival is supposed to be a different thing, you can't save outside of "safe areas", for example. Sounds kind of fun, but not going-to-buy-the-game-because-of fun IMO.
![556Magazine[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/n3U9tHV.jpg "556Magazine[1].jpg")
hey /k/
watch my clips will ya
>>337044561
99% of all fps' do this.
>>337049509
Yes anon those are things from the fallout game series.
>>337049543
It's okay in-game.
>>337049612
>food heals
>>337049612
Stimpacks in survival aren't enough. They won't alleviate hunger. In fact they cause thirst. Also you need stimpacks for companions now.
>>337049720
ok ill watchem until you get back
>>337049192
Survival got annoying after the game crashed for me and I ran into quest bugs that required me to restart from a previous save which was a long time ago. Not to mention the "challenge" is busy work more than being challenging. Got annoying when settlements got attacked while I was in far harbour.
>>337049720
Nigger them's fightin' words.
>>337049505
Yeah, it does. Like I'm hanging around the first town you encounter, and my dude gets hungry every 15 minutes it seems. So I found a bunch of food but ended up having to go in the woods to find plants and animals that you combine at stoves or fire pits for rad-free food.
Nothing mind blowing, but I was a big fan of 3 and NV so I was really bummed to be so bored of 4. Honestly just glad to be having fun. That
's the point, right?
>>337042863
>>337044561
autism
not the idle insult kind but real, actual, pure, 100% autism
FO4 is the most casual-bait game i've ever seen in my life
They recycle so much in this game, can anyone tell me how THE COMBAT RIFLE AND THE COMBAT SHOTGUN LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME
Also
>Charisma checks are now % based, so quickload/quicksave until you win making charisma useless
This game is funny on how hard it tries to make the casual gamer succeed at all cost, it's hard as fuck to find a way to fail quests in this game
>One is a gun
>The other is a gun
I don't get it. Is it some /k/ autism or something?
>>337051391
>Charisma checks are now % based
weren't they also in fallout 3?
>>337049720
>>337050457
>>337051725
shill more bethdrone
>>337051778
>weren't they also in fallout 3?
Yep, Bethesda had always weird ideas with speech checks. Anyone remember the persuasion system from Skyrim?
>>337049505
There's cooking stations you can find that look like campfires and chemistry stations to craft medicine, grenades, and drugs. Food is useful but all healing is over time and stimpaks heal faster so you either eat something at the beginning of a fight or after a fight.
>>337050247
I noticed how fast you get hungry and thirsty too, but I'm pretty sure the first stages of the survival effects don't harm you that much at all. You can ignore it for a while and be ok, kind of like radiation.
>>337051778
Yes, wich makes it retarded to level up charisma when you can quickload/quicksave until you win
The only thing charisma checks did in FO3 is just get additional dialog, at least in FO4 they get you more caps but that's it
I think the worst example of this system is Cait's companion quest, at the end you have to convince her to use a machine that will cure her addiction
You get the usual 4 choices
>More info
>Charisma check
>Charisma check
>Charisma check
If you bypass any of those checks you win the quest, but what happens if you fail all of them (And if you are a retard and don't quicksave/quickload)
If you fail all those checks, you get a new option that is an instant bypass and you get to win the quest, making the 3 previous checks completely useless, gotta make it easy for the casuals
>>337042863
So Far Harbor is the last DLC?
>>337047574
>bethesda
>Fallout 1
>>337052620
Last DLC of the first set. There'll be at least one other set, maybe three total.
>>337052620
It'd be pretty underwhelming to just have two DLC.
>>337052727
>you
>being able to read
>>337047574
>based on an original FO1 sprite
Anon, there was no such gun in FO1. And if you are seriously talking about Hunting Rifle - kill yourself, you blind motherfucker
>>337052620
Bethesda sticks to the same release methods for all of their games. If Automatron counts as a "story DLC" we'll get at least 2 more and a few mini dlc's, unless they decide to change it.
>>337053201
>Anon, there was no such gun in FO1.
DKS-501 or whatever wasn't in 1? Well, 2 then.
>>337042863
Who the fuck cares? Fallout 4 has a lot more problems than autistic imperfections with guns.
>>337049720
clips
>>337053532
Yup,i think the original games had it as a energy weapon?
>>337055047
Wiki says it was in 1 as well. And not really, Laser Rifle looks a lot like it but it's a distinct bullet-using .223 weapon.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sniper_rifle_%28Fallout%29
>>337049720
thats obviously a belt munition round.
>>337045579
Fuck this rifle, it looks so fucking shit, like all the other F3 guns barring the G3. The anti-materiel rifle is a superb improvement on how a sniper rifle should look.
>>337042863
IT JUST WORKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4
>>337056660
It's based on the original Fallout sniper rifle, my underage friend.
>Fallout 4 has 9 ammo types for all firearms in the game
>Fallout New Vegas has 9 shotgun ammo types alone
>>337056907
And I'm saying its rendition in gamebryo looks like shit, your point? The Bozar in NV is alot better looking than any of Bethesda's gun models while staying true to the F2 version.
>>337053819
It adds up.
>>337057195
>And I'm saying its rendition in gamebryo looks like shit
No, you were saying that AMR is how a sniper rifle should look, though AMR is a completely different weapon.It's "a lot".
Bozar is neat, I guess.
>expecting Bethesda to not be retarded about guns
>when they've admitted several times they're gun-illiterate
Fallout 4 has way worse issues, this is just softballing
>>337057308
Different weapon? Both are sniper rifles, with the AMR having a vastly better designed body and scope, with animations that aren't cringeworthy. Really though, you could have just removed the old rifle and and nobody would have batted a eye because the hunting rifle (actually decent gun), cowboy repeaters and brush guns are stellar replacements
>>337057506
>when they've admitted several times they're gun-illiterate
Doesn't make them any less guilty though.
Fuck I know Indie devs who are pretty gun--illiterate too, but they can actually use google to do their research and ask the community if they understood it properly.
>Fallout 4 has way worse issues, this is just softballing
see >>337057298
>>337057662
>Both are sniper rifles, with the AMR having a vastly better designed body and scope, with animations that aren't cringeworthy.
Probably because it's near perfect copy of Hécate II.
>>337057662
One is a semi-auto sniper rifle that uses common ammo which doesn't actually weight a ton. The base version also can be suppressed, which is huge - none of the guns you mentioned support suppressors. The Gobi version looks more like original sprite, anyway, as it doesn't have skeletal stock Beth model does.
If you make AMR the default sniper rifle, it takes a punch out of actually getting and using AMR, which as it stands is allowed to be an unique and extremely powerful weapon (though SR can actually be more powerful with a proper build, as you can make it crit on literally every shot).
Mod when
>>337057929
Bozar isn't really a sniper rifle though.
It was supposed to be a sniper rifle in F2, but due to an oversight it ended up as a burst weapon instead and devsleft it like that.
In NV it's just a light machine gun that trades capacity for better accuracy and range. I still think ligh machine gun with 200 rounds is better.
>>337058219
I wasn't talking about Bozar, I was comparing AMR and Sniper Rifle.
>>337058316
Touche.
>>337058054
Elaborate.
>>337050457
>making shit work in a proper way is autism
Do you consider your father autistic, or do you just try to forget the looks of constant disappointment?
>>337047814
>most video games
only the shitty ones
not even cod does that shit
>>337042863
WHAT THE FUCK NEW VEGAS WAS 6 YEARS AGO
>>337059059
>>337059059
I rather liked this thing, but it would've been better as some sort of dedicated LMG.
Maybe I just have a hard-on for side-loading magazines.
>>337058753
I want it in fallout 4
>>337049359
He means the gun has modifications to make it look that way.
I don't own guns and i don't browse /k/ but this has got to be kind of a reach. I mean, in gameplay, how many people actually care where the casings are falling? When did games have to be realistic at all? Is it in the lore that all Fallout guns have to eject on the right side or is this just autisimo rising?
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/j1A7Sz9.png "latest[1].png")
>tfw we lost unique weapons for diablo shit and the same 4 gun types
end my life
>>337059324
I guess you are shit outta luck then, since there is no proper semi-auto rifle in F4 to begin with and making one from scratch will take some time/effort.
>>337059565
>since there is no proper semi-auto rifle in F4 to begin with
The Assault Rifle can be modded to semi-Auto, so can the combat rifle.
Wow, it's almost like a AAA ARPG developer makes games with aesthetics that appeal to your casual average Joe instead of to hyper autistic gun nuts!
Who woulda thunk?
>>337059492
>tfw you remember that everything else about the game is equally as shitty if not worse
fallout 4 broke me, bravo Todd
>>337059302
>"we wanted something beefy, looking okay in the power armor hands"
>it still looks wimpy
>minigun is shitty
>no M2 or similar
>>337059413
> Is it in the lore that all Fallout guns have to eject on the right side or is this just autisimo rising?
It's just that there is no reason to make them eject on the left side.
Right-handed guns eject to the right to keep that hot brass from striking the shooters face. Considering that many people play vidya with guns because they like guns, a reasonable degree of realism is to be expected.
>>337043982
But the player is right handed.
>>337059565
There are plenty of semi automatic rifles in 4 and it wouldnt really be hard to mod in at all, worst thing would be the reload animation.
also i wish they would have just giving us an m1941 johnson instead of that abomination.
>>337059668
By "proper" I meant one that resembles any actual designs used in real life.
F3 had R91 and Chinese assualt rifle, both looked good eonugh.
>>337059059
This would have been completely fine if they just called it Light Machine Gun or something similar.
>>337059991
I get that. I don't own guns but I can appreciate when someone noticeably knows how to actually use them. I still feel as though there are other, more debatable things about Fallout 4 that can be talked about.
>>337060058
That shit looks sexy as fuck.
>>337060058
>There are plenty of semi automatic rifle
Yeah bot none of them resembles marksman carbine from NV, at all.
I went to a shooting range for the first time in my life a few months ago, it was the first time I shot a gun. I was surprised that people really just stand side by side and shoot guns, not caring that the casings are flying onto them. I was watching someone shoot next to a guy who was aiming down the scope of a rifle as hand gun bullet casings rained on his head and he didn't give a fuck. When I was shooting, some girl was next to me and I kept apologizing but she said she didn't care. However, I've also heard stories where bullet casings burned people really bad.
Was I just in another dimension shooting guns or something?
>>337060212
>I still feel as though there are other, more debatable things about Fallout 4 that can be talked about
They are talked about as well. Just becaue it's not the only issue doesn't mean it we sohuldn't talk about it.
>>337043850
Jesus christ who gives a shit
>>337060420
fair enough
>>337059413
>Is it in the lore that all Fallout guns have to eject on the right side or is this just autisimo rising?
It's an aesthetic choice. Mirroring the bolt and ejection port makes the gun look more 'animated' to the players. STALKER and Black also did this.
>>337060331
Ejected casings lose their velocity pretty quickly, so it's not an issue unless it hits your face which is close to the ejecting port.
And even then it's not that much of an issue unless you are shooting bullpup style rifle with the wrong hand, like >>337059991. I'm left handed and I shoot right-handed guns all the time, casings are hardly an issue.
That said, it's always better when they have no chance to hit you at all.
>>337043850
You realize that STALKER did this too right?
>>337060838
STALKER has redeeming qualities though.
>>337060698
I see.
Random note, seems like revolvers are the nicest for shooting ranges. No casings flying all over and easier to reload. Half the time spent "Shooting" a USP was reloading the three magazines we had. Was a lot nicer to just put the bullets into the gun in a situation where you're basically just dumping ammo for fun.
>>337060331
They cool down pretty quick but I wouldn't want someone raining casings down on me, its just common courtesy.
Had one go down my shirt when I was shooting the SA80 and it burned like fuck
>>337060938
With practice you can reload those magazines pretty quickly.
And some people enjoy all the little things involved as well. I shoot black powder as well so more than half of the time is spend on reloading.
>Base Fallout 4: 2015, 5 years after New Vegas
>Far Harbor DLC: 2016, around 5.5 years after New Vegas
>Bethesda still didn't implement looping reloads, the lever action has the same animation no matter how many bullets you fired
>no pump action shotguns, only double barrel/combat shotgun again like in Fallout 3
>>337060938
I enjoy bolt action for this very reason. Can easily slide my preloaded stripper clip in and I have like 15 of them because they cost like $2 a piece.
>>337062245
>Obsidian had to invent looping reloads in Gamebryo for New Vegas
>Bethesda doesn't have the intelligence to capitalize on this
Talk about embarrassing. an entire studio full of idiots and entry level programmers
>>337062245
>>Bethesda still didn't implement looping reloads
Supposedly it's really hard to do on Bethbryo. I assume, no continuous beam weapons either?
>>337062620
>>337062570
>>337062245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjH4s06XXQY
>>337043850
>People who think guns are cool and knowing things about guns are cool and firing guns are cool
>>337060936
That was the hardest goalpost move I've ever seen.
>>337062704
I'm pretty sure New Vegas has the largest amount of weapons in any FPS/RPG.
Not really surprising it attracted this type of person.
>>337062754
You haven't seen much then.
>>337062698
no one without autism is going to watch this balenced faggot
>>337060936
>T-that d-doesn't count because I like that game!
>>337062245
>Same bunch of idiot as Fallout 3 started working on Fallout 4 just after it came out : 7 years
>>337063016
fuck off todd
>>337060838
What's your point?
>>337062907
Vanilla it's close to if not on top. If you account for mods STALKER gets fucking ridiculous with how many guns/variants some mods have.
>>337062704
>plays a game with guns
>doesn't like guns
?
>>337059059
>>337059302
>okay guys, we gotta design an assault rifle
>what should we base it on?
>how about the MG08
>brilliant
>>337043850
Okay?
>>337063372
What were they thinking?
>>337062704
>guns aren't cool
I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of me using controlled explosions to hurl pieces of copper jacketed lead projectiles at twice the speed of sound at targets filled with Tannerite to make another controlled explosion.
>>337043850
>The ejection port is on the left side.
>this is somehow a /k/-tier criticism
Fuck you faggots.
>>337042863
>obsididrones will cry about this
>>337049720
Anon...
>>337060456
This.
>>337044561
>>337060029
So what if he's right handed? Most guns in the game world are for lefties.
>>337049720
Sure, are they behind those magazines though?
