Apathy is death.
>>337042329
you'll turn towards the dark side anyway, so gtfo
>>337042329
>not going full sith
>not fucking visas
>not going full force user
>not turning every companion to the dark side
Plebs.
All of you.
>>337043447
>Turning droids to the dark/light side.
>>337043657
>HK-47
>>337044493
>>337042329
Shit game
kotor 1 was better
>>337044734
Avellone actually agrees!
Statement: Apathy is death.
>>337042329
>>337042329
is that nihilus unmasked?
>>337043447
>Not going full light side.
>Not teaching Visas the true meaning of love.
>Not making sure everyone ends up full light side.
>Not teaching the force to everyone who can learn it to form an ultimate team of justice.
Stay pleb, Sith.
>>337044850
I fucking hate how so many newcunts seem to be under the impression that Avellone hates Star Wars. The guy read every single EU novel and played every game prior to making 2. It references incredibly obscure shit like Nar Shaddaa being in the '"Y'toub" System.
The Jedi Order may be flawed, but you'd have to be a fucking idiot to not think they're the better option in the grand scheme of things.
>>337049838
The Jedi Order is disgustingly corrupt after the events of KOTOR 1 what with the death of Zhar and Vandar and the good ones, with retards like Vrook and Atris surviving. Its total destruction is pretty much presented as a good thing since Kreia's plan is essentially for you to refound it with your companions.
>can't get the game working no matter what
I haven't replayed it in over 5 years, I need it.
>>337050035
That's fair. All I'm saying is that No, the Dark Side is not secretly good. The Light Side of the Force is objectively the right way to go.
>>337050421
Kreia didn't represent the Dark Side though. She wanted the death of the Force
How is apathy worse than death? Haven't played the game but this is some 2edgy4me bullshit
>>337044850
>>337048760
If only the UI wasn't hot trash.
>>337042329
>there are people on this board that think KOTOR 2 isn't the best star wars story ever written
>>337043657
G0-T0
IT'S LETTING GO
>>337051123
It has an amazing story, but it's not a good Star Wars story.
>>337051369
Star Wars is garbage, KOTOR2 is good
>>337051369
Kotor 1 is a wonderful loveletter to the original trilogy. Kotor 2 is all the best parts of EU. I think both are great.
I think Jedi Outcast might have the best Star Wars story though.
>>337042329
Who cares?
>>337043447
>>337047668
>not being neutral
>not letting Visas pick her own future
>not having everyone have freedom
>not teaching the force for personal gain
Why are religious fanatics such plebs?
I finally beat this game for the first time about a month ago, and I have to say that the finale was an absolute letdown as a light side jedi. There was so much build up and hype leading up to it, and then suddenly you're just having a normal conversation with Kreia and get these boring future sight revelations about where your companions end up in the future. To me, that was a major disappointment for an otherwise enjoyable game.
>>337050157Play the OG Xbox version, it's MAX COMFY with that fat controller baby
>>337052026
>not being a wound in the Force
>not letting Visas be the harbinger for our Lord
>not revealing to everyone the myriad dreams of the Sleeping One
>not preparing the galaxy for when It wakes.
Why are non-chosen such Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
>>337052447
That's what I'll probably have to do,I first played the game on Xbox actually and remember it running well
>>337052879
Downside you can't play the mod to add what was missing, though since you'd be replaying the nostalgia trip will be amusement enough.
>HK47 is best Droidfu
>>337044734
you're not wrong, kotor 1 was better.
>inb4 muh depth
yeah, kotor 2 wasn't any deeper
>>337053167
He also can't do a canon run since girls can't have handmaiden. They get stuck with a boyscout.
>>337050157
Have you tried running it in windowed mode? It works on my crummy laptop that way, even though I have to do it through the .ini file rather than the game itself.
>>337053309
KOTOR ain't Canon anyway, the only canon that matters is the movies.
>>337053509
>Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors are now merged into a single entity
The greatest lovestory ever told is gone now. I hope new Kyle is a lesbian at least.
>>337042329
That wasn't even her actual quote, it was literally ludo kressh speaking through your party.
>>337053793
Quotation needed
>>337042329
>i'm too smart to pick a side, so I won't. I'm better than you
Apathy is death
>>337053509
It used to be canon. In our hearts, it is still canon. And we hope that one day, Disney will bring it back in some form (personally, I'm hoping for a two-season-long Netflix series; one season for each KOTOR game, possibly adding on a third to have a better culmination of the two than TOR and "Revan" delivered).
>>337053881
it was obvious as hell, they couldn't be more obvious that you were just traveling through a dream/vision. Especially when everybody in your party started to say that in a creepy way no matter how out of character it was. And they by the ending of the vision you pretty much see the influence of the sith grave.
>>337053793
Did I ever imply that it was the real Kreia who said it? If I had posted that with a picture of her in her half-Obi-Wan, half-Sheev robes that she wears through most of the game, then yeah, you could say that I was.
I only used that picture because my Google-fu was failing me, and I went with one that was close enough to the Kreia illusion we see in Ludo's tomb.
>>337044850
>even Avellone says it out loud that KOTOR1 better
KOTOR2FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
IT IS A GREAT DAY
>>337055298
He said it's a better, more polished product.
That much is obvious, 2 is still miles above 1 in terms of writing and characters
>>337055495
>already denying shit
He said experience, not product.
Nice reading comprehension.
>>337053509
What's the point in even keeping TOR alive if it means dick to Star Wars as a whole now? Not that it was anything remotely-resembling what people wanted in a KOTOR 2 sequel, but surely someone at Disney can't stand the idea of a current game with active players conflicting with the storyline
>>337055723
>What's the point in even keeping TOR alive
$100million+ profits a year
> Not that it was anything remotely-resembling what people wanted in a KOTOR 2 sequel
And KOTOR2 was not anything remotely what people wanted in a KOTOR sequel
>>337055723
Disney owns Star Wars but not The Old Republic.
>>337055298
>>337055716
>expecting a creator to come outright and bash the game that made his game's existence possible
you're a loon, anon.
never change
>>337056013
>I-ITS NOT TRUE
>HE DIDNT MEAN IT
as i said
KOTOR2fags on suicide watch
>>337055723
>>337055886
Disney kind-of owns TOR. It's kept alive because it's making both EA and Disney a lot of money (EA through subscriptions and in-game purchases, Disney through EA's contract with them), and BioWare actually likes the fact that it's no longer canon, for the same reasons that they were all too happy to set KOTOR 1 thousands of years before the events of the movies (namely, that they don't have to worry about keeping to canon nearly as much as they would if they had to tie into the new movies).
>>337056826
If anything, I don't get why the OLD republic had to be part of the canon nuke, since even when KOTOR 1 and 2 were a thing, they didn't conflict with any of the movies, and were their own self-contained thing
The worst part is that if there ever was a chance for a proper KOTOR 3, it disappeared when they decided an MMO would be the best way to wrap shit up, so apathy really WAS death when it came time to resurrect the KOTOR IP into an actual RPG
Can anyone give me a tl;dr on if TOR actually ties shit together? Or is it just a clusterfuck that goes in 200 different directions
>>337057923
TOR ties in just about nothing except for the fact that you rescue Revan and then everything from then on involving Revan gets worse as it goes on. People like to mention Bioware shafting KotOR2 characters but they butchered Revan more than any character from 2.
>>337043447
>visas
Such union would bring... difficulties. Do not insert your intromittent reproductive organ into her counterpart. And if you do, use protection to contain discharge. And if you don't, follow up with your lightsaber and turn it on.
>>337057923
>
If anything, I don't get why the OLD republic had to be part of the canon nuke, since even when KOTOR 1 and 2 were a thing, they didn't conflict with any of the movies, and were their own self-contained thing
Unfortunately, Lucasfilm and Disney decided to throw the baby out with the bathwater when they did the Legends reboot, deciding that it would be better to just jettison everything aside from the movies and The Clone Wars rather than pick and choose whatever they wanted. Perhaps they may want to redefine exactly how long the Jedi were around, or change the history of the galaxy such that the events of KOTOR become impossible. Then again, some creators (such as James Luceno, author of the Legends book "Darth Plagueis" and the canon book "Tarkin") have been letting Legends material slip into canon (by referencing "Plagueis" in "Tarkin"), so there's a possibility that we may see KOTOR again in some form.
