Recommend some games that deal with Existentialism.
Bonuss point if it's also good
Ghost Trick
EYE : Divine Cybermancy
>>337027078
Existentialism is fucking stupid
Talos Principle
Nier
>>337027078
OP's pic looks exactly this guy that keeps messaging me on youtube with weird shit about his "organization" of eco-fighters for non-terra planets.
"I don't care how, and I don't care why, but I want you to recruit more [redacted]".
I'd post a link but you guys would bully him, he's crazy.
The Sims
>>337027220
Why do you think so, baby girl?
>>337027078Minecraft
Not even kidding. Think about it.
>>337027485
Nice blog.
>>337027613
Wouldn't most sandbox games apply?
NieRThis does count, doesn't it?
>>337027485
Salutations, fellow eco-fighter.
Wich element were you assigned? I'm semen.
>>337027713
>>337027613
what why
Is it because you can magically summon and remove stuffs at will?
>>337027605
Meaning and value of something is inherent, not defined by the individuals personal opinion.
>>337028091
maybe it isn't
>>337027878
I guess you determine the worth of your activities
Can someone explain this concept to me in a nutshell?
Is it just like being self aware of your own existence or something?
Pepsi-Man
Xenogears
>>337027078
Neptune rebirth 3
Shadow the Hedgehog
I am (All of me)
>>337028257
In one quick sentance:
There is no inherent meaning to anything, but it's up to us to define and give meaning to things.
It's not the same thing as nihilism, saying there's no point. I view it as liberating, that I have a certain freedom, and the burden is on me to find meaning.
>>337028154
Maybe you suck dick
>>337028597
Nice argument
>>337028642
Likewise
>>337028708
? I'm not that guy, but he argued. You just resorted to profanity. Therefore, you lose.
>>337028517
I'm going to assume you are serious and know things I do not. Enlighten me, how is waifu existential?
I hope this turns out to be eye-opening instead of just randomly naming meme games.
>>337027078
Mario Cart
>>337028091
>not defined by the individuals personal opinion
But personal sense is the only way to measure something, so there isn't anything not defined by individual opinion.
>>337027078
>You will never shitpost with Dotoievski
Why live?
>>337028257
"What is this will to truth in us, and why not rather untruth?"
Read beyond good and evil by Nietzche for an introduction. If you are still interested after that, read The Gay Science, Thus Spake Zarathustra and On the Genealogy of Morals.
How has no one mentioned MGS2 yet?
>>337028797
It is full of meme like all nep games but the plot is surprisingly ambitious. So you will get both.
>>337028543
>find
It's creation. You aren't looking, you are making.
>>337027232
This is correct, and you will not find a better answer in the thread.
>>337028770
>Maybe it isn't
Is not an argument
>>337028843
Does oxygen have value because we have decided it has value, or because it is inherently valued?
>>337029494
The former. For some creatures Oxygen is poisonous.
>>337029592
Pure oxigen is poisonous for humans as well
>>337029494
First too
Just because we need it doesn't mean it's inherently valued. We recently gave it values after realizing our body need that shit.
I think some of increpare's games fit the bill
>>337029726
Yes, but ANY oxygen is toxic for them anon, please keep up.
You don't have to be inhaling PURE anthrax for it to show harmful effects.
>>337029726
It's not poisonous, it's toxic.
>>337029592
Oxygen has value because we need it to survive, not because we have defined it as such
>>337030146
We define survival as something valuable, therefore oxygen has value because it helps us achieve that goal.
You should join the rest of your kind in the famous japanese forest.
>>337028091
that's the exact opposite of reality, there are a lot of things that are universally valued by humans despite having no intrinsic value
>>337030146
But what value does survival; life have? What says we need to go on?
>>337030342
we have an instinctual fear of death
here's a nice question to think about: if survival and life have no value, why haven't you ended your own life yet?
>>337029037
I'm not literally finding. I think it's just semantics at some point.
>>337030490
>we have an instinctual fear of death
Oh? That's why people crash planes and shit, kill themselves, sacrifice themselves for the better good, etc. ?
Because there is nothing more valuable to them than their own continued existance?
Get a clue, loser.
>>337030797
That's because societal pressure overcomes their natural fear of death. You can override certain instincts because they aren't that strong.
How come so few people crash planes and kill themselves? We have over 6 billion human beans and yet maybe 0.001% of them kill themselves, why isn't everyone doing it if it's that easy?
>>337030259
Survival is an instinct, that's what gives it value. It required no conscious input or label to determine its value.
>>337028797
But Uni is my waifu. Her self esteem isn't THAT low.
>>337030952
We value our own lives out of instinct, but that does not mean that our lives have real value other than their instrumental ends. I fear death, but only because of the limits of my own body and mind.
>>337030952
>because something other than survival was on their minds
Thank you for agreeing with my original point.
>>337031020
And yet we can still consciously give it a value of less than other options.
Once again, we create our own set of values.
>>337031197
That's right, our lives have no intrinsic value but we continue living because they have value to US. I don't think I was arguing any other way.
>>337030797
>>337030490
An evaluation being instinctual doesn't make it "objective." It just means it's part of an nonconscious trend--i.e., it's merely intersubjective.
>>337031302
What you're saying agrees with existentialism, then.
>>337027078
Eternal Sonata?
Soma, but it felt kind of rushed for me.
>>337031473
I self-identify as a nihilist.
Xenoblade Chronicles
>>337031269
But that doesn't make its actual value less. Life is very important, saying it's meaningless doesn't change that
>>337031842
>it's actual value
There is no "actual" value dumbass. That's the whole point. Everybody gives it exactly the value they feel it is worth.
>>337031942
So what if someone didn't consciously attribute value to his life, does it make it not valuable?
>>337032347
If he consciously thought his life was trash and actively sought its end, then it is not valuable for him at all. Clearly DEATH is more valuable to him.
This isn't rocket science. How is it hard to understand?
>>337028091
can you prove that?
if so then gg, nobody has been able to so far
