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What is the best Soulslike and why is it Monster Hunter?
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What is the best Soulslike and why is it Monster Hunter?
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>repetitive grindfest that plays and looks like a PS2 game
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>Soulslike
I understand that you start MH threads with bait but now you're just pissing me off.
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>>337001005
You're giving the 3DS an awful lot of credit
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What is the MonHunlike of Souls games?
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>>337001495
BB.
Big scary mons that can only punish you for being a shitter
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>>337001583
Weapons don't feel nearly good enough in BB to be a MonHunlike.
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>Soulslike

What, MH and Souls are nothing like each other.

They're both completely different with their own strengths, weaknesses and mechanics.
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>>337001495
slow controls that reflect the weight of weapons you're carrying,
monsters that can and will murder you if you aren't paying attention,
general momentum and difficulty curve,
oh and monster hunter came first
WRYYYYYYY
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>Soulslike
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>>337001620
But it's the closest imo.
I haven't played DS3 or DeS so it's possible I'm wrong
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No. Stop. We can't go on like this. Use a different bait the next time.
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>>337001969
>>337001410
Well I do suppose the bait is getting stale after all
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A room for MH4U is up for some non-specific hunting

ID: 13-2672-9228-6331
Pass: 6726
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>>337003873
Cute.
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Souls is babby tier compared to MH.
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Alright let's get this shit out of the way

>Hated weapon
>Hated monster
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When will Monster Hunter come to a relevant platform?
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>>337000824
>fucking disgusting camera in the year 2016
>fucking disgusting hitboxes in the year 20-fucking-16
>shitty, repetitive grindfest just like an mmo
>awful online community full of frogs and scrubs and assholes
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>>337001620
Bruh. All the weapons in BB are the spawn of Switchaxe. We'll leave the discussion of whether SA is a shit weapon or not some other time. It's shit.
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>>337004723
>probably try to kill you when it grows up
More like probably try to steal my shit and hide in the bushes.
Cmon cham, even if you're invisible I can see that lump of nothing parting the bushes, not cool man.
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>>337005716
>Max Potion stolen
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>>337004723
Probably lance but I have literally no gun lance uses ever so maybe GL.

Nigger Gravios, I hate that motherfucker.
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>>337004723

>Monster I hate: Cephalos
>Weapon I hate: Double swords
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>>337000824
I want to fuck that dragon
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>>337005595
>Nobody joining

Welp, gonna close the room. I'll probably try again later.
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>>337004723
Bow, Tigrex
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Phantasy Star did grinding better than Monster Hunter.
Too bad its dead in the west.
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>>337008265
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>>337004723
>Hated Weapon
SnS
>Hated Monster
Water Combat
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>>337000824
>Soulslike
I know what you're trying to do here, but fuck you faggot
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shouldn't souls be monsterhunterlike?
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>>337008858
Sorry bro, I have 400 hours invested in the game, of which I'm pretty sure 250 of those were dedicated to farming double rape ape. I'm burnt out on 4u.
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>tfw no mh4u on vita
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>>337010523
no, souls doesn't play like shit
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>>337010660
That's alright, I understand

Was also curious to check whether if one anon from last night wanted to finish off and S-Rank some low/high arena quests he wanted to get out of the way.

>>337010837
About it
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>>337010837
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>>337008858
You're the same guy from yesterday, right? I'll be available in about a hour. I were expecting you to play later.
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I unironically enjoyed underwater combat and want it back
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>>337010838
Show me where the big bad monster touched you on this doll
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>>337011138
Timezones are funny things.

So ~2am my time? Alright then
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>>337004723

great sword, was never fun to use, never

of all monsters on every game? Giggi, ugly fuck poisonous piece of shit, rather take 3 monkey dicks at the same time and hve underwater zones back than hunt this shit
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>>337004723
Fuck Cephalos in the rectum, and I can not use the Charge Blade for the life of me.
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>>337004723

>Hated Weapon
Gunlance
Can barely use that thing, and it hits like a wet noodle on the big baddies (Apex Rajang and Apex Seregios)
>Hated monster
Mother fucking Furious Rajang and his Apex form, how in the flying fuck do you even fight it with its two form enrage?? I had him on farm on MHFU but cant for the life of me do a clean kill on MH4U
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>>337011715
Furious raj doesn't have an apex form, thank fucking god. By two form enrage, you mean the one where his arms go hard? There are two answers. First is ESP, but quite suboptimal as the hitzone becomes .1 or something as well as gemming it in. But there isn't a whole playstyle change if you use ESP. 2nd answer is concentrate on hitting the tail. If your using weapons with wide swings though, you'll hit a bounce zone sooner or later.
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>>337012125
Yeah I know I didn't mean FR Apex, I meant standard Apex

I use CB with

Honed Blade
Guard +2
Razor Sharp
Artillery God
Critical Eye +2
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Does using palicoes count as soloing still or am I a shitter unaware of soloing metas
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>>337004723
>Weapon
Dual Blades. Pay attention to stamina, pay attention to demon gauge, flail like a madman while ALSO chipping away with tiny little hits because unless the monster's standing still it's too risky to go full ham

Worst weapon to be fighting alongside is Longsword, which loses only to Frenchies and their IGs.

>Monster
Rajang. It's just not a fun fight.
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>>337012480
It counts as soloing. If you're talking about seeing speedrunners doing their thing without cats, they do so not because cats are crutches, but because bringing cats make the monster less predictable.

So in a weird twisted way, as you get better at the game, cats make the game "harder" for you, in the sense that you can get a better time without them.
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>>337012351

Not him but CB is a pretty bad matchup against the Rajang, if you're determined to fight him with it get tremor res and move away from the guard style, from what I remember a GP will barely ever if not never give an opening for a AED.
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>>337012791
That's interesting to know. I'm at High Rank now in 4u, and unless G Rank turns out to be hell I can't imagine, I'm gonna refrain from going online at all.

G Rank's not THAT bad is it?
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is glaive a weapon for babies?
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>>337004723
>Lance/Gunlance
>Rajang
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>>337012926
The jump from High to G might sting a bit.

Not him but I ditched the cats around Caravan 9, suddenly the game felt more satisfying.

>>337012994
As far as 4U is concerned it's quite powerful for what it is, even after taking easy mounting out of consideration. Load up on speed nectar and get easy red essence.

I hear in X/Gen that's it sorta okay.
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>>337012994
Yes. The damage buffs are easy to obtain, and they even throw in a defensive buff with triple buffs. It is possible to cheese monsters through mounting, even notorious anti-melee monsters like black gravios. Its damage output is high, I would rate it 3rd best behind HBG and GS.

However, it is a weapon for advanced users alike. Unlike other statuses, mounting attacks don't decay, so you can stack mounting attacks then pull off a mount at a good time. I like to save mounts for when the monster reverts back to apex and my teammates' wystones are up or to cancel teostra's nova. Also, glaives are one of the worst weapons to use against apex monsters, because some monsters prevent you from obtaining red without drive. A glaive without red is like.. a boy without a penis.

>>337012926
A lot of the difficulty in MH actually comes from transitions between the different ranks. At that point, you're undergeared, everything hits like a truck in rage mode, and need to face new monsters or old monsters with new attacks that cover up old openings that you used back in High. If you can get past that curve, no, G Rank's not that bad.
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>>337010225
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Just fought Kirin for the first time as a GS user. Man that is a stupid fucking monster they invented that you can't hit with overhead attacks unless you scrape its side. Literally why did they do this?
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>>337014980
you think that's bad try him with SnS
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>>337014980
>Mind's Eye: The Monster

Yes, Kirin is pretty fucking shitty.
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>>337004723
CB. Because everyone I played with was using it all the time I'm sick of seeing it.

And Plesioth, Cephadrome and Gravios
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I'll post some Tama while I wait for arena anon
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>>337016263
Is this one of the new monsters from Cross?

You reckon we should wait till an inevitable Generations Ultimate comes out or just go ahead and buy it when it comes out?
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hey guys what do you think Ratholos eggs smell like haha
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>>337016384
Yes, it's one of X/Gen's four flagship monsters.

I've got no idea if MH Stories will clog up the spot for Japan getting a new mainline game release this year. Funny enough we still don't have a Generations release date for the West yet, apart from knowing it'll supposedly be launched in Summer. I wonder if Capcom wants to do a MHXG/MHGU but is holding off from announcing it until Generations releases here.

Or maybe Japan will get another high rank game in MH5 or something since X is supposed to be an anniversary thing.
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>>337018272
Sure is a lot of fan art
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>>337018389
I should really go to Pixiv and find what moonrune tags are used for Tama/Mizu
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Still waitin
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>>337016141
Jesus Christ I'm late as fuck, what I had to do took longer than expected. I've created a room at 44-3156-1088-0542 (pass: 7243) if you're still around.
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>>337019519
No worries
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I want to fuck Diablos!
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>>337019794
SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>337000824
Because tje base dodge roll has ver few i frames that pretty much makes it so ine has to genuinely dodge shit or get hit.

Unless of course ones a shitter and they just unstead stack evade and evade distance shit thst is only somewhat forgivable as dual swords.
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>>337004723

>Long sword
>Good old Rathalos
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>>337004723
>GS
>Khezu
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>>337001005
As a Monster Hunter fan it's hard to read this post and realize I cannot disagree with any part of it
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>>337024408
>imblying grinding is bad
>imblying modern games are any better than PS2 era games
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>>337024728
grinding is bad game design imo
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>>337024869
>playing the game is bad
If the core focus of your game is combat (like monster hunter) then giving the player reasons to fight a lot is not "bad game design."

Then again, everyone who criticizes games with "X is bad game design" is usually a cock gobbling faggot who has no idea what they are talking about. Just go watch a movie if you don't want to play a game.
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>>337011434
>>337024181
>Hating on GS
Shameful.
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>>337004723
>Hated weapon
None really

>Hated monster
Je suis monté
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What does the "G" stand for?
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>>337026461
Gigantic Gock
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>>337019794
And Diablos wants to fuck you.
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>>337027104
I assumed it was Gud Rank
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>>337024728
grinding isn't inherently bad but i feel like monhun has too much of it.
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>>337005716
row row fight the powa?
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>>337027259
MHX relaxes the upgrade system a bit, more common materials are used than rare drops
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>>337027259
The only point where "grinding" could be considered mandatory in MonHun is leveling up guild quests to 140, other than that you can just stop sucking dicks.
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>>337025239
It wouldn't be so bad if rare drops were so shit.
Even if you break everything, it's still a slim chance you can get the materials you need.
Then there's GQs and boy is that RNG hell
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>>337028664
no don't get me wrong. grinding isn't necessary - you can clear most of the game without upgrading your equipment.

however upgrading your equipment is fun and if you can't do that, then monster hunter sucks dick.
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>>337027259
They should just get rid of plates, gems and mantles. Anything else can stay imo.
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>>337011326
People keep saying Australia got shit internet but there was like zero lag or anything of the sort despite the over 10000 kilometers of distance, I'm honestly quite surprised.
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>>337029446
That's the New Zealand flag, anon.

I've had some laggy moments with French randoms with monsters teleporting, after completing a mount there may be a delay, and the odd attack that looks like they missed instead actually hits, but overall I suppose MH has some competent netcode.
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>>337030027
>That's the New Zealand flag, anon
Heh close enough. Guess the fact we weren't playing as a full group helped too.
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>>337024181
>Khezu
Just
fucking
use
a
gun
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>>337030621
>a gun
just don't hug him when he's doing any of his electro attacks goddam
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>>337029043
That might just make things worse without some balance.

A suggestion could be to have monsters of the same type (Brute Wyverns, Leviathans, etc) all drop a low percent item related to their type.
Weaker monsters have a low chance while the stronger monsters have a higher chance than before (5% - 7% instead of 2% - 3%, could go to 10% with certain items or armor sets) This could give you plenty of chance to get those items earlier in the game.
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>>337018389
it's a popular game in japan
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>>337030749
>That might just make things worse without some balance
How would that exactly be a problem? Having to hunt over 100 times a monster just to have a tiny chance of dropping a shitty gem doesn't sound like the epitome of good game design.
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>>337030353
>Full group

That'll be it, I think that's when shit starts falling apart.

We actually had a flag change referendum that went from last to this year. After one poll last year to decide the final new flag design and another this year, the old one ultimately pulled through. So yes, millions of dollars were wasted
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>>337028820
Gonna be honest, rare drops have stopped being a problem for me once I started figuring out which quests to do for them.

Like, say Monster can yield Rare Item, but Quest A has no individual rewards for said item for completing the quest itself:
>2% per body carve (x3)
>3% for tail carve
>2% for breaking face
>1% per shiny
Assuming tail is carved, face is broken, and one shiny is gathered per quest plus kill and not cap, it's like a 10.8% chance of getting item per hunt

But Quest B...
>1% per slot of Main Rewards First Row (x8)
>2% per slot of Subquest Rewards (x8)
>2% per body carve (x3)
>3% for tail carve
>2% for breaking face
>1% per shiny
Suddenly, if you carve the tail, break the face, gather at least one shiny and complete the subquest, it becomes a 25.4% chance per quest, or just a teensy bit more than 1 every 4 quests.
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>>337030621
>switching to entirely another weapon and armor set just for one monster
Yeah no fuck off
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>>337031502
Really hard to do stuff like that with Slogmazios.
And even then, it's still chance
My friend was trying to get Agnaktor tails in 3u. Every time he carved, he got the rarer material instead of the more common tail. Desire sensor is real
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so a guild hall monster takes 4times more to kill than a caravan monster if playing alone, right?
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>>337030731
And then watch him do that and roar 6 times in a row, very fun hunt! I really like not playing the game too.
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>>337031353
>We actually had a flag change referendum that went from last to this year. After one poll last year to decide the final new flag design and another this year, the old one ultimately pulled through. So yes, millions of dollars were wasted
Yeah I knew that, anons were talking about that exact matter right when I decided to pay /int/ a visit. During the same period one of our shitty radio hosts also made a dumb joke about how cool your flag would have been with a kiwi on it.
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>>337031959
just attack him when he finishes and step back
you need to time your attacks anon and evade
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>>337031654
It's your loss senpai, it turns the fight into a literal snorefest.
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>>337019794
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1850648
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>>337031909
Nope, around two times.
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>>337032278
damn that's not that much
time to go solo g1
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>>337032232
>tits
>on feral monster
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How do I into the Bowguns?
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>>337031909
Not entirely sure how it works technically, whether it was a higher health pool or if monsters just have higher defense depending on the rank. G-Rank monsters may go down within a fair amount of time solo depending on your setup depending on what they are.

>>337032007
The proposed Top 5 designs we could vote for were pretty shit though, so it doesn't matter. The one that made it had a fern and we already have more ferns than the HL2 Cinematic Mod

Best thing to come out of the whole thing were jokes about how a given thing would be cheaper than changing the flag

>>337032504
Transitioning from HR7 to G1 is pretty tough solo. Up to you if you want to armor sphere the fuck out of your armor or create something like Velociprey (if you can find a +5 Handicraft charm) to then transition into Regios X or Garuga X
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>>337033339
I'm full garuga S atm
had no problems fighting some G monsters already in expeditions and caravan, but haven't tried soloing guild hall yet

It looks like garuga armor is still among the best even in grank right
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>>337033327
>http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/762804-monster-hunter-4-ultimate/faqs/71429

This is not an end-all guide but has some good info

You should use Athena's ASS for endgame Gunner sets

>>337033989
HG Earplugs and Sharpness are great, though it's quite hard to squeeze in both S+1 and Razor Sharp. Edge Lore on Regios X and Star Knight work around this, but on the former you can end up using a fuckton of gem slots even if Artisan Jewels are available at that point (Rathalos Fellwings!) on top of a good charm to achieve S+1 whereas SK armor has +4 already. Regios X's Constitution +2 is handy for some weapons, I guess.

Seriously, a good Handicraft charm does wonders. I was lucky to get a +5 Handicraft -3 Guts OO- charm in G1.
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