Why do people not like this game? I'm playing it right now and its amazing
>innovative leveling and skill system
>great characters and graphics
>best soundtrack out of all the games
I think people don't like this game because it doesn't have cloud and sephiroth in it. ff7 fans are the most autistic spergy weirdos I've ever seen.
>>336969028
Most people don't like it either because they don't understand junction, or they understand it too well and break the game or because the sory goes full retard at some point. All of them valid reasons to me. Personally I like it but I can why some people wouldn't.
>>336969285
>implying any FF games story doesn't go full retard at one point in the game
I thought thats why we play them?
The story has quite a few rough patches and the characters are not all that interesting. The battle system is okay, although draw can get pretty old pretty quickly.
>>336969028
I used to hate it because I didn't understand how everything worked, but even now when I do understand everything and have finished disc 1, I don't exactly hate it, but I'd much rather not play it, because I think the system is stupid overall.
Also they might as well have not even put levels or exp in this game.
>>336969028
>It's unbalanced as fuck
>forced romance with some annoying broad
>most of the characters don't get enough devopment
>can't waifu Quisty
That being said, it's still probably my favorite in the series. I also unironically like Squall.
>>336969653
FFVIII is the king of full retardedness.
There is suspension of disbelief and then there is FFVIII
>>336969783
Squall is an amazing lead character surrounded by retards. It's really not his fault.
great sandbox. best soundtrack ever. shitty game otherwise
>>336969783
I like Squall a lot.
He's not even that edgy. Cloud is the king of edge.
>"pssh... not my problem kid."
also guys please no spoilers. I am no where near through disc 1 yet...
>>336969285
>or they understand it too well and break the game
Sadly this, even with the enemy scaling thing sometimes is not enough. Specially endgame, who the fuck thought capping everything at lvl 58 at Ulti's castle was a good idea?
fight enemy just to draw draw draw
keep going back to same spot on map to draw
great other than that
>>336970257
What if I like grinding?
>>336969904
Enjoy it while it lasts, game stops being fun after disc 1
>>336969028
The theme is love and /v/ isn't very comfortable with love, especially the teenage variety, since they were all picked on during those years and never got to experience it.
>>336969028
It's my favourite FF game but I hate FF games so it doesn't matter what I think.
>>336969904
>king of edge
>the fucking guy who says "let's mosey"
>>336969028
Junctioning is satisfying like many FF systems, but it is too powerful and the characters aren't very distinct when it comes to gameplay.
Limit breaks are more distinct than they were in FF7 at least.
It killed Xenogears.
>>336969028
a leveling system that punishes you for leveling is not great.
>best soundtrack
>great characters
hell no. everything after disc 2 was shit.
>>336969790
Yeah, FF8 goes full retard. Like MGS2 levels of retard
which is why I think I condider both games to be the worst mainline games of their respective series
>>336969028
Better start playing triple triad, and use the ability to turn monsters into cards instead of killing them.
Triple triad really made the game for me, gives you a bunch of cool stuff too.
Some really stylish ultimate attacks too, just wait till you get the ultimate weapons.you can actually get Squall's on disc 1
I think the Omega weapon or whatever the optional boss near the end was one of the easiest with that name though.
FFVIII has horrible game mechanics.
Unlimited consecutive limit break use kind of misses the point of, you know, a LIMIT BREAK.
Elemental junction is a nice idea that *gasp* FFVII already did with Elemental combination slots, in addition to way more combo possibilities. Not that anyone ever uses FFVIII's elemental junction mechanic anyway. Just refine items and cards and attach overpowered magic to strength and hp. gg you won. Its more unbalanced than almost any other FF game which is insane considering basically none of them are balanced lmao.
>>336969285
This
Who used it better?
>>336969028
Also, if you play it a certain way you can beat the game at level 7 or 10. Don't remember which.
It's a fun game that you can really only play once, because it's incredibly broken when you know where the cracks are.
>>336971839
That is not really true. The enemies get stronger as you level, but so does your party, as you get access to new magic and weapons and can improve your stats in many ways. It wants to make you refrain from grinding and focus on learning how to use the junction system instead, and FF8 is one of those games where the player being knowledgeable really pays off.
Even at level 100 bosses can't do shit to you, if you use your junctions right.
>>336972238
I think the ideia behind the Limit Break system in this was to have a "risk vs reward" thing going on (and in fact, Limits become stronger the less health your characters have), but the game is too easy for you to actually be at risk most of the time.
I played it when it launched. I kept convincing myself it would get better, than I got to that cutscene where they're making out in zero-G with that shitty love song in the background and I turned it off and never went back to it.
the only good thing about it is triple triad
the only good thing about final fantasy is triple triad
>>336972578
woah kid, a little easy on the spoilers will you?
>>336972557
I just dont understand what is hard about a bar that fills up as you take or deal damage.
I like that I don't have to grind.
>>336970257
The only thing that bothers me about the game is that it made magic almost redundant. The only times I've ever used magic was vs Ifrit, darkness on Diablos, Aura for bosses and a few cures here and there.
Everything else is junction fuel.
Why use firaga when I can do 3700+ dmg with Squall alone?
worst battle system worst story.
>auto attack is the most powerful attack
>virtually unlimited megalixirs
>>336972498
the one who actually does Renzokuken
>>336969028
>best soundtrack out of all the games
This is not even remotely true. FFIX, FFVII & FFX are all much better.
>>336973219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KCRi6PpLjE&list=PLtfx2ncino2SUM9pKbZ6DlKSygSmna8jU&index=6
yeah right
fucking retard
>>336973445
>Find
>not Force
Nigga what
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZMWszd5SRk
>>336973445
>picks one song
You're the fucking retard my friend.
>>336972010
sometimes it's fun to go full retard
I love mgs2 for that reason
its bonkers and I love it
I like FFVIII well and good but not like I love mgs2
>>336969028
you're right
>>336973771
>that organ
Still one of the best FF boss themes.
The Extreme is still one of my favorite final boss themes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA
>>336973771
That's not man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0WdQDPRwb4
Laguna is the anti-edge this world needs
>>336974179
what a retard
the entire soundtrack is a masterpiece
All of the ps1 Final Fantasies are solid as hell.
>>336969028
I love it but I'm not vocal about it.
>>336969904
Son, let me tell you about Cloud being a edgy faggot
>>336969028
On a somewhat note, I decided to play X-2 today for the first time out of curiosity after remembering that shit exists.
It actually does not seem that bad. I mean, it's balls to the wall retarded, but at least it doesn't take itself seriously.
>>336975468
cloud is the worst MC.
At least Tidus is consistent.
Cloud isn't edgy, hes just imprinted with the memories and personality of a chad.
Squall isn't edgy, hes just introspective.
Both FF7 and 8 are good. 9 is the odd one out for being complete and utter shit.
>>336975815
What!?? 9 is great mate...
>>336975815
9 is the best of those three, though.
>>336969028
>innovative leveling and skill system
you mean the one where you get punished for leveling up?
>>336975763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FTJxfV3pc
>>336975763
>>336976641
He is consistently unbearable.
>>336975763
yeah, consistently shit.
>>336976285
Yes. And one that also punishes casting spells.
OP is a retard.
>>336969028
People don't like it because it isn't FFVII.
That's it.
>>336970362
The main theme is actually fate. Love is a subtheme.
>>336969887
The important thing to remember is that Squall is only such a powerful lead because the game and the rest of the cast was designed to make him stand out as a character.
Everything done by any other character is designed to impact his characterization and make him reaffirm or question his world beliefs. They intentionally don't stand on their own as characters.
Part of the reason why I dislike IX's cast in comparison is because IX tried to make each character stand out as individuals via "this is what Zidane taught me about life" and it failed to really hit home with anyone besides, I would say Kuja.
Squall's story, comparatively, isn't about how he affects anyone else, its about how everyone affects him and thus rather than having a bunch of spread out half assed characterization across the board like in IX, you have one incredibly well written character surrounded by a bunch of, essentially, nothings.I would say VII for the most part hit the sweet spot in that everyone actually stands on their own as characters, short of Cait Sith which was an interesting concept with a bad execution.
>>336975489
what the fuck is with that quarter dress thing she has going, so goddamn stupid looking
>>336969028
>innovative leveling and skill system
you mean unbalanced and broken as all fuck?
>great characters
yeah, squall "I didn't give any shits 10 minutes ago but now I can't live without you rinoa" leonhart sure is a good character
>best soundtrack
Other than the battle themes it's not really anything special compared to the other games, even then those who fight and blinded by light are still just as good, if not better. Hell for what it is even the FF5 theme is as good.
Don't be afraid definitely has one of the best distant worlds compositions though.
>>336976935
>People don't like it because it's bad
Fixed that for you.
>>336977739
I prefer RPGs that are unbalanced and can be broken as fuck. I enjoy experimenting and coming up with OP shit.
>>336972557
>That is not really true. The enemies get stronger as you level, but so does your party, as you get access to new magic and weapons and can improve your stats in many ways. It wants to make you refrain from grinding and focus on learning how to use the junction system instead, and FF8 is one of those games where the player being knowledgeable really pays off.
>Even at level 100 bosses can't do shit to you, if you use your junctions right.
what if you played FF8 and was not aware of the enemies levelscaling?
because that's what happened to me. It got really bullshit to the point I gamesharked the game, gave max stats, beat it, and put it away forever
Yes, everything to do with its battle mechanics was fucked up the ass. But that's not why I play/played Final Fantasy. I always played for the story, music, art direction, and immersion. On the plus side, the FF8 battle system does allow you to really gimp yourself if you so chose.
I like how one of the first posters described the system, in that it either made the game really easy or really hard. Personally I don't see how you could be retarded enough to find it too hard, especially when it had an "auto" function.
Bottom line, everything outside of the junction and draw systems was delicious for FF8 and still one of my fav all-time games. Easily top 5 soundtracks all-time and I still listen to the tracks and play them on the ol' piano.
Squall had the best Limit Breaks. How many games actually make custom moves for different bosses?
>>336978434
What? He had four, and did each one randomly.
>>336978228
The story was fucking retarded, too.
>hurr durr amnesia orphans
>oh wait we were all brainwashed by a wizard from the future
>>336969028
I didnt like it for 2 reasons
1. it pushed aside the original final fantasy 8 that was planned. it was almost finished, it did get released but it was changed and it was called "Vagrant Story". Instead they pushed this game that was heavily focused on a romantic theme.
2. this game wasn't finished. They finished enough of it to release it but you can tell a lot of stuff was left unfinished.
The game could be even better if they finish it properly. It would have to be rebooted to do that and the original fans would cry because its not like the original.
>>336978598
>What? He had four, and did each one randomly.
No, he had custom Renzokuken animations for half the bosses in the game and four patterns for generic enemies.
>>336969028
The combat and magic system are absolute garbage.
It's easily the single easiest, most effortless FF. Therefore the worst. Even 2 is better.
>>336978598
The Renzokuken bit changes depending on the enemy. There;'s some boring generic shit for the usal monsters and then special animatons for a good amount of bosses.
Fated Circle etc. were nothing more than fancy finishers and are all crappy compared to Lionheart or just the Renzokuken bit.
I dont know if i have the motivation to finish. I stopped after the part where cid gives you a lamp or some shit. Does this game get better? I have a fascination with ps1 FF cgi and music, but this game hasnt pulled me in likeFF7
>>336979109
You've finished the tutorial, congratulations. now get on with the rest of it, it's about to pick up.
>>336969028
Its one of my favorite JRPG's because I enjoyed the junction system, music and the romance aspect hit me at the right age. Squall is one of the better protagonists in the series. It was the last FF to take some risks.
>>336975468
>one phrase
>>336979109
The part before that is literally the tutorial. You haven't even gotten to Galbadia Garden yet.
>>336979109
it picks up and is pretty good until whenever battle of the gardens is but then it turns to total shit afterwards
I think it's the ending of disc 1
>>336977837
Problem with FFVIII is that you get broken the second you get Siren and can transmute tents to curagas and junction that shit to your HP.
Congrats, now you cannot die.
>>336979189
>It was the last FF to take some risks
>>336979109
>the part where cid gives you a lamp or some shit
OHHHHH SHIT NIGGA
>>336979326
End of Disc 2
>>336979357
>FF9 went back to its roots
>FFX went back to turn based with no real systems beyond that
>FF12 was a knock off MMO
Nigga Junction and how you got magic is miles ahead of anything they've done.
>>336979336
There's a thousand ways to break the game and most of them take less effort than that.
>>336969028
>innovative leveling and skill system
That doesn't equate to a good system. It was straight up worse than the previous two systems and neither of them were very good.
>great characters and graphics
Fuck no.
>best soundtrack out of all the games
FFIV's is so much better it's not even funny.
If you want to see a game that does experimental mechanics right go play SaGa Frontier.
>>336979460
That was actually the point of FF9, it was boring tho
FFX had that weird as sphere grid that could make all the characters equal, it was boring tho
never played FF12
>>336979187
>>336979296
>>336979326
Thanks m80s I thought the tutorial was that junction crapwhich I still dont understand
I'll give it another try
>>336977837
I don't. What the fuck is the point of having a system to experiment with if you break the game doing it?
>>336979336
>Get two Status Attack slots
>Junction Pain to One, Drain to another
>Get Diablos' Darkside ability
>Spam that
>Become an unkillable god that inflicts every status on hit and heals for the amount of damage dealt
>>336969028
>Leveling up in FF8
You're playing it wrong
>>336979460
Yes, 12 was a risk. So is XV. The only risk 8 took was being modernish, which is what XV is doing to an extreme.
>>336974938
This. I normally don't like slower songs, but this is still one of my favorite tunes, relaxing as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eU0tRBHnE0
Also, some more for ya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFXZ618pU_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ZXp_5M_7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV42kmH7zc0
>>336976180
>>336975929
9 is fucking awful
>so many years have passed that ff8 is now the "oldfag" Rpg like 6 once was
>>336980120
Oh and one more to go to, one of my favorites, though I was always mad that this song isn't in the official soundtrack for some reason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUMjZYfycCg
So /v/ what is your favorite way to break the Junction system?
>>336980358
>Squall
>Ultima on STR
>Stop on SPD
>cast aura on him turn 1
>Spam that fucking R1
>>336980358
Minimal efffort and no grind
Just chugging along and refining items from bosses
It can be done well without deviating from the plot. People make breaking junctions take too long.
>>336980628
>breaking junctions take too long.
All you need to do to effectively break the game is to transmute 10 tents into 100 curagas and you cannot die until the end of the fourth disc where you should have already junctioned 100 life to your hp.
Then it is simply a matter of having a decent junction to STR, casting aura, and spamming your limit break.
>>336969028
FFX has the best soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1nsp5CnvVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCYraH2-KyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2SHDFt8pSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGoSAJeVwg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWtJOIFRDao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utt7YbfkJvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIMRvdCt9jM
>>336979840
I'm replaying it now and only just realized that It's more fun when you try not to level up.
>>336969028
Monsters generally level with you, so you want to teach Quetzalcoatl card, then you want to card everything. You don't get experience from battles when you card the monsters, but your GFs still level up and get AP.
Honestly, I've had more fun doing that kind of low level run than my initial, blind playthrough.
Don't forget to use draw on certain bosses/monsters to get new GFs.
Anyway, hope you have fun. It's not my favorite FF, but it's a good game.
>>336980860
You don't even need to do that to break the game. There's no need for that much HP, you can use Cura/Zombie instead for a long time and put Curaga to better use on a more relevant stat than unnecessary amounts of HP.
>>336981087
I think we all know which FF had the best OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_lMTWDy3UU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkx3KcO7TCs
>>336983181
Best snes era ost for sure.
>>336971839
FUCKING OBLIVION.
>>336983181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfIYS-bTu8k
>>336969028
>Why do people not like this game?
Back in 1999, the majority of people liked it. The minority who didn't were mostly people angry that it wasn't Final Fantasy VII-2.
As the internet became more prevalent in the late 90s and early 2000s, it became popular to hate the games that were currently popular. This is why some of the biggest and longest running memes are people complaining about Final Fantasy VIII and Chrono Cross.
> the only people who dislike ff8 are ff7fags.
Whatever.
