we'll finally be able to play games at 1080p, pcbros
Just sold my 970 that I got over a year ago, before everyone knew about 3.5 gb. Gonna get the 1080. If they pull some more hokey bullshit I will never buy another damn nvidia card again. I'll go back to buying AMD like I used to.
finally
finally we will be able to play games at 1080p 60fps
at long last the wait is over
>>336965507
you can play at 1080p right now fag
$600 is too much for me. I'll have to settle for the 1070 and play games at 1070p
Cool, I get to shitpost in 1080p now
look at that memecard being born
Is there any game now that would justify buying this?
dude
4.20 gaming performance
lol
>>336968693
>buying
>>336965507
Help me clear this up
>1080 is the strongest card ever
>1070 is as strong as a titan
So 1060 is probably as strong as a 980?
Heh.
But seriously, does anyone have any games lined up to play with this thing?
I'm still on a 770 and modded Skyrim for fapping is the most intensive thing I play and I don't see any reason to upgrade any time soon.
>>336968693
battlefield 1 probably
I played everything up until 2011 on a 9800gtx+, and up until 2016 with a 560 Ti.
high standards are awful
>>336968693
Multiplats.
Ports of old Vita games.
Western multiplats.
Shoddily programmed console ports.
Shitty Western multiplats.
Ancient Japanese console ports.
Games from the former Soviet Union.
I'm shitposting in 7770p right now, losers.
>>336968908
Undertale on 8K
I just want a card that's between the 980 and 980 ti that isn't fucking expensive.
>>336969041
You got an HD7770? Me too
>>336969058
>not getting the 980t
>>336968908
Well, 4k is pretty neat, even if you don't have a 4k monitor.
Play games in 4k and downscale them with DSR, shit is pretty good, non existant jaggies and stuff
>>336968693
Skyrim with ENB
>>336968693
Yes
>>336968693
Skyrim 2
>980ti
>can only play at 980i
just kill me now sonybronies
>>336968908
It's literally only worth it for 4K
>>336966303
>buy a new series card at launch without waiting for information
>get burned
>salty as fuck, sell it and buy the next new card at launch
>f-fucking nvidia, it better be good!
Did your parents drop you on your head when you were young?
>>336969048
>>336969153
>>336969440
Oh, higher resolution. I guess that should have been obvious. Yeah, I can see that helping.
>>336966303
>he's not waiting for Vega
you're a dipshit, buying Nvidia is retarded nowadays, AMD has a stranglehold on the industry because it owns both Sony and MS.
>>336969153
MSAA is better than downscaling
DSR is a meme and there is no soft spot between jaggies and blurry shit all over your screen
4k is a meme too.
and I have a nvidia card
>Nvidia has 1080p
>Meanwhile Polaris only has 480p
Why do AMDfags even try?
>>336969574
>4k is a meme too.
Bro I can assure you it is not. DSR is shit tho
>>336969574
>4k is a meme too.
video games are a meme
>>336968693
I need it to get max comfy
>>336968857
Yeah he should just pirate a 1080
>>336969574
It's a meme for monitors, not for a big TV
>>336969854
Shame that Skyrim is such a terrible game, you will literally spend more time troubleshooting mods than you will playing the game.
>>336969854
>Still can't get good looking water
yo, stop shitposting and tell me what card I should get for max settings with 60 fps on most games with a 1280x960 monitor.
no one loves 4:3 res anymore.
I play games at 1080p 60fps on my gt740
Holy shit, Undertale and Stardew Valley in 1080p would look fab af
>>336969952
>amount of time spent troubleshooting mods in Skyrim: 20+ hours
>amount of time spent actually playing: none
The modding community is huge, why has no one just made one big graphical pack?
>>336970017
Now this is shitposting
>>336969574
Well , I must be blind then because I run DSR on pretty much everything that allows me to.
Maybe you never calibrated the slider? I think it's normally set to 100%, that makes everything look like a damn blurry mess, 25-33% is the best.
>>336970098
I like how some people say that Skyrim is easy as shit to mod, and then go on to say that GTA4 is much more difficult. If I want to replace a few cars, all I gotta do is download openIV, download the respective vehicle replacements, replace the model and texture files with openIV, and edit the vehicle functionality numbers with whatever the author provided. Tedious, but there's minimal troubleshooting, and holy shit it actually fucking works. Not to mention you actually WILL play GTA4 and not just say 'wow so pretty'. I'm sure this carries over to GTA5 as well, they're essentially the same.
>>336970009
I want to say either 750TI or 950. Not only is 4:3 no longer supported, it seems like there are other bottlenecks to game performance aside from resolution.
>>336969854
water doesn't have to always be moving
>>336970098
There's something called "Skyrim - The Journey" that /v/ talks about sometimes. Some Russian assembled a super pack and it's on a torrent or something. Ask /tesg/ on /vg/.
GTX 1080p LOL
>>336969854
No matter how good looking that is, the game is still shit.
7.5
>>336969552
>Consoles
Lol kid...
>>336971214
Actually it would be closer to 7GB.
>3.5 out of 4
>4 x 2 = 8
>3.5 x 2 = 7
>>336970919
We all know that, anon.
Skyrim is for masturbation and something like a sandbox for modding.
>not waiting for the 1080ti
>>336969552
Not that anon, but I've had enough issues with AMD drivers to steer clear, unless they suddenly improved.
Just got a 970 a few months back. Should I sell it for a 1070?
Wat do?
>>336972979
Graphics cards are pretty fucking hard to resell, from what I know.
>>336973187
I sold my 760 on amazon a few months back. Got like 200 for it. Surprised I got that much and surprised it sold too because I thought it would be hard to resell as well.
>>336965507
Wait a FUCKING MINUTE,
THE GTX 1080 ONLY USES 180 WATTS OF POWER?
I only have a 300W PSU so could I actually replace my 750ti?
>>336973618
You know nothing about computers, do you?
>>336973618
You still gotta run all the other stuff in the computer. Besides, PSUs aren't that expensive. You might as well upgrade that too.
>>336973618
Lmao
And why the fuck do you only have a 300w power supply? 500w is pretty much the absolute minimum, 750w to stay comfy.
>>336973872
Having to deal with the cables and all that is what keeps me from upgrading.
>>336973879
it's from 2011.
>>336969552
>adored tv memes
Educate yourself before you post or fuck off.
>>336966303
>not waiting for the 1080ti
wow pcfags finally caught up to ps4 graphics... too bad the ps4 neo is on the horizon... heh.
cucked once again, kids...
>>336969208
skyrim with ENB has bottleneck on CPU anon
gtx 1080 wont do anything
>>336973618
But anon PSU's are the second cheapest thing on a build...
>>336974063
If you get a modular power supply, you might convince yourself to deal the cables again, it's a nice thing so it's not just a bunch of spaghetti you have to tuck away somewhere. I'll never get another one that isn't modular, they should all be that.
>>336974063
Running cables through sucks, but modular PSUs have made it a lot more bearable.
Only connect the cables you need.
>>336973879
>>336973729
lol what. A cpu will use about 70watts(under strain), mobo about 30w(mid range), ram 5w, hdd 8w, optical 25w(dvd) case fan 3w, and GPU 180w-200w.(high end).
Most computers can run 300w especially if they aren't running all that much shit. You'll only need a 500w PSU if you're running a top tier PC or SLI/dual CPU.
>>336968908
I will be playing Witcher 3 in 1440p @144 fps firstly.
All my gaming will be 144fps now.
I will have truly ascended.
What the hell is "relative gaming performance"? What does it even mean for something to be a 4.5 on that chart?
>>336974237
what
Never ever buy a cheap PSU. Get one that costs around $75-$100. Those shit $20 PSUs almost always arrive DOA or will die in less than a year.
>>336969574
>>336969683
>>336969871
>memememememememememememememe
>>336974447
>GPU 180w-200w.(high end).
Lol not if you're using amd.
>>336970596
In a river?
>>336974651
>970
>Graphics Card Power (W)145
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications
>>336974651
>>336974895
wait, that graphic is the total power usage right?
I read it as just the GPU at first.
It's vague.
>>336969574
>MSAA is better than downscaling
>>336974978
>it's vague
No. Just read properly next time.
>>336969574
>MSAA is better than downscaling
Are you fucking retarded or what?
>$699 GTX 1080 that can't play 4k
>$399 PS4K that can play 4k
PC fags on suicide watch lmao
>>336975485
>only shows GPU and nothing else
How the fuck are you suppose to know what else is drawing the power? Why list ONLY the gpu there?
How is that not vague?
it's graphic with only one piece of info on it that doesn't show anything else.
What's so special about the 1080 and 1070? Don't we play at 1080p already?
>>336975693
>what does a test bench consist of
>>336966303
Why would you sell your 970 for something that is months away? Are you retarded?
And I sure as fuck haven't experienced this 3.5 meme.
>>336968693
HTC Vive.
>>336968874
You're better off with a 980ti than a 1060 probably.
>>336976639
The 1080 card is dropping May 27th or something.
>>336969445
>a company makes a bad product
>that means ALL the other future products will be bad
I wish Hume beat your head with a pool ball.
>>336974447
no way in hell can you run a computer with a discrete gpu on a 300w power supply. even the most efficient gpus use atleast two thirds of that and that's just on paper. they can use much more power than that. 500w is the absolute minimum if you have a gpu.
>>336976840
no, but it means that you dont preorder their next product. they have to earn your trust again, unless you're retarded
>>336976834
Oh okay, still fucking retarded to get a fucking reference card.
>>336971214
>>336971448
7.5GiB = 8GB
>>336976939
>buy a new series card at launch without waiting for information
Oooh, wait, I misunderstood, sorry, I see what you mean, by the way I was not that guy I just butted in the conversation.
>>336974447
>>336976887
>even considering getting less than 650W in 2016
>>336976463
I play at2560x1080so I need a like 30-40% more horsepower than standard 1080p. The 970 runs everything fine so far but that's not gonna be the case in half a year so I'll probably sell it used and get a 1070.
>>336968693
Undertale and Fallout 4
>>336976887
are you retarded?
You're going against facts here. You are basing everything you've said on fucking nothing but your own ignorant bullshit.
>>336977181
I play at that rez too. Ditching a multimonitor setup for an ultra wide was amazing. Shame about the extra usage it chugs.
Im just getting by on an overclocked 270X but a housefire is imminent with summer coming.
>TFW don't want to buy a 1080 because I know that in another two years all the games released will start to run like total shit because all port dev teams just throw hardware at a software problem and call it a day
>>336977658
I'm still waiting for Blizz to patch in 21:9 support for Overwatch.
>>336977152
>not understanding a reliable PSU provides it's full potential
>cheap PSU is inconsistent
>won't get full wattage from it
You can work with a 300w PSU easily if it's a solid PSU. a 500w cheap piece of shit is worse than a solid 300w PSU.
The only way you need more than 500w is if you're running dual titans.
>>336977680
Nothing is worth playing though. I'll be getting one or a 1070 just to play older games better. Either at 4k 60fps or higher.
>>336974651
DELETE THIS
>>336977549
you should be asking yourself that you inbred twat. you've based your own post on nothing and you're calling me a retard? I actually work part time building pc's so I know what im talking about fuck face.
>>336977770
Do you think this is the fucking 90s?
Decent PSUs with good wattage aren't fucking expensive anymore.
Hey, I got an i5 4670 , 8 gigs of RAM and a 750W PSU. If I don't plan on overclocking could I feasibly just take out my 770 and pop in a 1080 and everything should work alright?
>>336969574
>MSAA is better than downscaling
>>336977770
I bought a 950w Corsair PSU like 8 years ago for less than $90 lol. Getting less than 500w for anything other than a media PC severely limits you, way more than you're saying. It's also dirt cheap to just give yourself some overhead.
>>336977934
>just to play older games player
But WotS3 is a 2016 release. A year newer than WotS4!
>>336978031
Lol let that dumb fuck use a 300w psu. Watch him cry when his computer fizzles out because of a psu overload.
>>336978223
I have a similar question. 3570k, 8GB of RAM, looking to replace my 670 with a 1070.
>>336978393
I just wanted to post an image, there are more than 1 games.
>>336978019
literally posted a link saying a 970 uses 145w.
way2read
Since you're especially retarded here's a pretty great and common CPU that uses 88w(high usage, will probably use much much less normally)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117372
a mobo uses like 40w while RAM and HDD watt usage is negligable.
You're looking at an i5, 970geforce, 16gig, PC that uses less than 300w underload.
>>336978223
If it's a good PSU. Then yes.
>>336978223
Yes, the 770 uses more power than the 1080 will. Make sure you use DDU before you take out the 770 to wipe your drivers so you can reinstall fresh ones afterwards.
As a side note, 750W PSU doesn't really mean a lot. You have a decent build so I'm going to assume it's okay. That being said, you could be running a shitty unit which is just a ticking time bomb that works now but could take out your whole build in the future. I've seen 450w units that I'd put more faith in than some cheap 750w ones.
>>336978442
Should be fine. Hard to tell without knowing what exact PSU you have but if it's running stable currently the 1070 shouldn't exceed your current limit.
>"founders edition"
PC gaming reaches a new low
>>336975693
>Peak SYSTEM power draw
>>336978839
It's an overclocked reference card.
How is this a new thing?
>>336978898
P.E.A.K. System
gotta make it sound cool
>>336978943
yes but they had to make up some new marketing speak just to con less knowledgeable people into buying them
pretty underhanded of Nvidia honestly
>>336978898
and what exactly is that system? Is that how much that specific card is pulling in that system or the entire computer?
Whats the CPU? What's the mobo?3rd party CPU cooling? how many HDDs? How many optical drives? how much ram? how many case fans?
saying "a 970 uses this much power in our system" is fucking retarded when you know nothing else about it.
>>336978690
Please tell me you aren't really this thick. No one can be this stupid.
>he's actually using paper statistics to calculate voltage
Did you learn about computers fucking a week ago? EVERYONE knows those are all false and should be taken with a pinch of salt. There are fucking hundreds of benchmarks which prove me right. Even the fucking link recommends a 500w psu and that's with an extremely efficient Intel cpu.
Fuck off bad to your xbox you stupid child.
Continued poor optimization forces people to buy these cards.
I can't think of a single PC game released this year which was well optimized.
>>336978943
No it isn't. The founder's edition cards are literally just reference cards, the only difference being that they have the "new" cooler on them. They have reference clock speeds and binning. It's a way for Nvidia to sell the cards without taking up market space from aftermarket vendors like EVGA, MSI, Gigabyte etc, hence why it has an increased price tag. The MSRP is $600 for the 1080 so you should see aftermarket versions of it that cost less than the founder's edition and perform better than it.
Unless the aftermarket vendors somehow fuck up and fail to create a better cooler than Nvidia, which is unlikely given how poor reference coolers have been in the past, the cheaper versions of it that hit the market should be superior in every way.
>>336979434
Wattage*
>>336978943
because they announced a card at a lower price point and they aren't going to sell it
>>336968908
>this
I have a 960 and I can play TW3 on high settings. Sure if I upgraded to a 980 I could get it on ultra, play it with a far better fps, but really what I've got is adequate.
I kinda feel like this new card is gonna be overkill, not to mention expensive.
>>336979434
>EVERYONE knows those are all false and should be taken with a pinch of salt.
uh huh. I'm sure they are.
Like this one?
>>336974651
>Fuck off bad to your xbox you stupid child.
uh huh.
basically you have no sources, no citations, no facts and you're resorting to making shit up as your "facts"
i'm sure every company ever is just lying though right? or the posted benchmarks.
>>336979549
WATTS*
>>336979532
Read up to be sure, I just assumed it'd be overclocked. Good thing I wasn't buying the reference card either way.
>tfw getting strix 1080ti
How long does it usually take for non-reference cards to come out after release?
>>336980026
no idea hat you mean
>>336978223
Motherfucker I have an i7920 from 2008 that still works absolutely fine. You're good
I'm gonna wait until Polaris is out to weigh between going team green or red for my next GPU.
With Vulkan and DX12, AMD's not gonna have issues with per-game drivers so they'll be much more competitive.
>>336980127
Like MSI and Asus cards
>>336980026
some come out around a month after release
>>336980138
Have fun living in the streets after your house burns down.
>>336978031
this depends on what you consider expensive.
And for one, I never said a good psu was "expensive" but there are still a lot of shitty cheap PSUs. A good PSU is going to be $60-$100 still.
A large $30 PSU isn't going to be worth shit, if I were going to get a $500w PSU I would probably go for the $70 ones(unless there is a sell or something)
Lmao at these stupid retards in this thread saying you can power a full pc on a 300w psu without a hitch. Bitch please, it's a given that you need at least 150w more headroom than what is being used especially with a gaming pc.
>>336968693
No.
Remember you sperglord betacucks will need to upgrade to Windows 10 to play the hottest new games and your free upgrade period is running out.
How much are you willing to sacrifice to stay a French's Classic Yellow?
>>336965507
>Duuude look at our new shiny card
>Look how well it perform on Doom, a game that isn't visually impressive at all!
>>336980286
Nice list with no 14nm cards
faggot
>>336980278
>$60-100
>not cheap
You'll get a good psu for $60-80.
There is literally no reason to pay a couple of bucks less for 3-400 watt when you can just get 600+ to begin with.
>>336979881
Lol nigga you stupid. Everyone here can tell you learnt about pcs like a week ago. I don't have to prove shit. I dare you to go on /g/ and post this shit you've been saying. You'll get put in the fucking ground.
>>336980376
>and your free upgrade period is running out.
Watch Microsoft go:
>Lol jk guys we're extending it one more year, but this will be the last time i swear !
>>336980253
Why faggot. only thing that draws power is the i7 920 OC'd and its been running good for EIGHT YEARS.
I'm not buying current gen AMD, Polaris is gonna have low power draw you retard.
Don't talk to me about housefires, I HAD A 470 you fuck. Never again.
>>336980376
Doesn't Windows 10 prevent you from changing your card and other hardware after upgrading?
>>336980286
I'd say 100 is more than enough unless you're OCing or constantly pushing it.
>>336980138
>920
shit nigga, at least get a 860. 920s are the cause for global warming.
>>336980376
>nott running a Windows VM in a QEMU session and passing the GPU through to the VM.
>not playing all your games sandboxed in a comfy VM session, getting 99% performance of native, then shutting it off to comfy xubuntu or freedumbox of your choice
>>336980286
"gaming PC"
You can get a gamingPC that runs games better than a fucking ps4 with a 300w PC. Your average PC gamers is using an i5, 970geforce, 8gig RAM PC. Which works under 300w.
What you are talking about is an "enthusiasts"computer
An r9 alone costs more than a ps4.
What the fuck is so hard to understand about this?
>>336980608
Only OEM versions.
>>336980746
I call bullshit, otherwise you GNUtards wouldn't use Wine at all.
>>336980746
>VM
>99% perf of native
lmao
>>336980608
>change card
>run kmspico
..?
>>336968693
-Brute force your way out off unoptimized console ports then petition for more console titles that wasn't designed or intended to be released on PC in the first place.
-Play Mobas, Shooters, SJW indie games that only requires a toaster to run
-Use it for VR and play countless archery games
-Hearthstone
Will the 1080ti be the true graphicscardkino?
>>336980765
>>336980849
I don't know what that means, please explain, I'm scared!
>>336980950
it will be the only card to finally take the 750ti's place in reliability
>>336980953
kmspico is just a program to activate windows again
>>336980554
>why faggot
>TDP: 130W
>>336980648
I'm stuck on old 1366 right now so I can't jump to that new chipset
>>336980839
>>336980836
>not knowing what KVM is
>not knowing what PCI-E passthrough is
I bet you fags think VM's are just virtualbox shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9QwDmYBRgg
admittedly you need a separate monitor as your GPU is completely invisible to the host linux VM
the real question is: can you pirate Win10?
I never bothered looking it up.
>>336981235
you can pirate win7 and authenticate to get the free upgrade. at least that is what I did on all my computers. there are probably better methods now that it has been out for a year
>>336980286
faggots like you are why people think "pc gaming" is so expensive.
You realize that you don't need top tier equipment to play games right? You can get a 760gt(or better) for $100 and that's going to play games on high settings the majority of the fucking time. That card only uses something like 60w too.
Those high watt video cards are extreme high end. Unless you are playing VR games you truly do not need a $1000 PC. You can get away with a $400 "gaming pc" that will play things amazingly well and not require a high watt PSU.
>>336981129
Can you explain what tdp translates into when it comes to power consumption?
Currently GPU-Z is showing my card using around 10% TDP.
I have no idea how I should translate this into watt.
>>336980763
Fuck me we have a downy in thread people.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/KBPQWZ
Look at the power consumption in pcpartpicker. It's way higher than 300w and that's without and external drives or case fans.
Even logical increments doesn't have a single build on a 300w psu.
http://www.logicalincrements.com
>>336981343
>>336980763
Samefag
>>336981342
yes but you don't get a key, do you? if you reformat then what?
>>336981129
I'm not pushing heavy CPU shit daily enough to justify that kind of upgrade
>>336981378
tdp is a number that represents the general max power draw you will see when you use the thing to its max ability. it isn't the technical limit but it is what you should expect.
>>336981343
>760gt(or better) for $100 and that's going to play games on high settings
>high settings
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>336981149
I enjoy 'old' tech for whatever reason. I'm running a C2Quad, actually.
get a 990X for the hell of it.
>>336981149
>admittedly you need a separate monitor
Fuck that.
>>336981343
>500w psu
>high wattage
kill yourself
you made an indefensibly stupid purchase because you're retarded
>>336981580
What's wrong with 760 for 1080p gaming? You can run most games maxed at 60fps.
>>336974063
>it's from 2011
Bruh 500W was standard back in 2005. Whoever told you 300w was acceptable for anything gayman is a moron.
>>336981536
Yeah but i'm just getting a percentage.
And when I set it to show max tdp it says 60% and not 10%.
>>336981508
it generates a key in the registry but I don't know if that is hardware configuration specific or not. if you wipe win10 and reinstall it should authenticate automatically because microsoft hashes your hardware and knows
>>336981149
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9QwDmYBRgg
Is that a one time thing or you have to do that shit for every game?
>>336981235
Yes, there's some enterprise editions floating around.
SINGLE 8-PIN
>>336981770
Nigga a 770 can't even get close to 60 fps maxed out in any of the latest games. A 760 is significantly worse.
>>336981803
I guess it doesn't show the tdp of your card, just the percentage. it is a set number per model so you should be able to google it.
mine says 30% and I have a 670 which has a max tdp of 170 so it is using about 50w currently
is this shit gonna do actual async compute, or is it gonna theoretical async that we never actually enable like maxwell?
>>336981850
>if you wipe win10 and reinstall it should authenticate automatically because microsoft hashes your hardware and knows
I don't know why but this image somewhat shows what I'm feeling right now.
no way I'm installing that shit.
>>336981391
Seriously?
Those parts are higher end compared to the ones I posted specifically the mobo. There is literally no need for the after market cooler either. 20w for a HDD is also incredibly high and not realistic at all.
>970
145 Watts
>Intel Core i5-4690K
80 watts
>non-highend mobo like you have listed
30-40 watts
You can get it running about 260w-270w max and will run much lower than that the majority of the time. A $160 "gaming" mobo is completely not needed especially if you're going for something under 300w.
>>336982228
>tfw 660ti
Might be time to upgrade. Starting to feel the suffering. Had a 9800GTX+ before that, lasted for ages. Try to keep them as long as possible.
>>336982228
Wrong pic
>>336976774
>You're better off with a 980ti than a 1060 probably.
Until they drop support on Maxwell like they did to Kepler. Fuck nvidia and they're bullshit practices.
>>336981861
Its just a VM with actual hardware access, its very possible to get native level performance with some tweaking.
In a few years shit will probably be alot easier.
>>336982228
my 760 is running fucking fantastic. Dark souls games look and run like ass and I fucking hate them.
>>336971394
>nvidia dx12 performance
xD Nvidia Master Race xP
>>336981745
I understand the inconvenience, but its for people who want to go full freedoms.
Also you can just run another cable from the back of your GPU into another port on the back of your monitor if you've got one, then switch inputs.
I'm not gonna lie, Xubuntu is comfy as fuck.
>>336982453
>970
>145 watt
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-geforce-gtx-970-strix-review,7.html
>>336982337
Yeah did a quick google and it's 120 ish idle and 270+ on full load.
>>336982527
Sure they did.
>tfw don't want to support Nvidia's kikery but want the GTX 1080
>>336981749
I have a 500w psu dumbfuck.
The dumbfucks questioning whether a "500w" is good enough know fuck all about anything. A 500w PSU is going to be great for anything other than top tier dual GPU rigs.
I'm saying you can build a good gaming computer with an i5, 970, 8gigs of ram with only 300w easily. It isn't hard and it isn't impossible to run a computer with 300w limit.
>>336982806
>970
>145 watt
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-geforce-gtx-970-strix-review,7.html
>what is factory overclocked
>>336982953
If it's not factory clocked you'd clock it yourself.
Or are you seriously not overclocking your card?
>>336982737
>Also you can just run another cable from the back of your GPU into another port on the back of your monitor if you've got one, then switch inputs.
...Good point. Are there HDMI switches without input delay?
>>336982453
See:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/zvWpD3
>There is literally no need for the after market cooler either.
Who the fuck buys an overclockable cpu without fucking overclocking it? An aftermarket cooler is absolutely fucking compulsory when overclocking. The stock Intel cooler is fucking trash.
Educate yourself before you post, retard. Stop watching fucking linus and do your own research on this shit. Anyone with any fucking knowledge knows you don't take manufactor power consumption statistics seriously.
>>336983073
literally no reason to.
Especially if you only have a 300w PSU (which I don't but the point is that parts don't take as much watts as spergs here think)
>>336983073
Don't reply to this guy. He's a fucking spastic that probably flew here from r/pcmasterrace. They're all fucking mentally challenged.
>>336983196
manufacturer*
>>336983315
Yeah, I noticed with this >>336983232
>t-there's no reason to overclock
>hurr durr 300W
You'd have to be mentally impaired to get a 300W PSU even if it deliver 100% of the wattage.
>>336983196
>Educate yoursel
You're the dumbfuck making an effort to post as many overclocked and unneeded featured mobo and aftermarket cooling to "prove" you couldn't build the pc I was talking about under 300w.
You're a fucking idiot. I said you can build a 970, i5, 8gig, 1tb gaming PC under 300w and to prove me "a retard" you purposefully choose parts that are overclocked to require more power.
All you're proving is you need to actually try your hardest to push over that 300watts. My original claim is still true you fucking moron.
Am I the only one who feels a TRUE graphical leap on par with PS1 -> PS2/Xbox is coming soon?
>>336983105
I'm sure there are, i'm not gonna make the switch till I get away from my i7 920, move to something with integrated intel gpu that the linux host can use.
>>336983516
Won't happen. Maybe if CDPR actually delivers with what they've said about cyberpunk. Which is highly unlikely.
>>336983418
>mentally impaired to get a 300W PSU
Holy shit is critical thinking this hard for you?
It's not about GETTING a 300w PSU. If you are upgrading and just happen to have a 300w PSU from before you can still get up to a 970 card.
Literally kill yourself.
I never once mentioned overclocking. Not fucking once but for some reason you're deadset on that being a required feature.
>>336983418
Kek look at this fucking inbred, he won't stop posting -> >>336983509
>>336978690
my only reply, being an electronics guy, would be yes, you could run a decent pc at 300w or under, but i wouldn't recommend it. you would want to give yourself some room from the psu's peak output in order to get a longer life out of the psu. also looking at psu efficiency for those that pay their own electric bills, running below rating a bit is "usually" more efficient than running right up by rating.
>>336983664
And there is literally no reason to keep that 300W PSU so your whole fucking point is moot you massive autist.
And if you haven't realised yet, there is more than one person responding to you.
The article I linked from 3dguru lists a fucking reference 970 aswell.
And guess fucking what, it's like 3 watts below the strix.
>>336983758
He's beyond help.
The fucking gpu alone almost uses two thirds of the power supplied by that psu under full load.
>>336983613
>cyberpunk.
holyshit this still exist? why does everyone any like it when they never seen any gameplay footage?
>>336983891
>And there is literally no reason to keep that 300W PSU so your whole fucking point is moot
Unless you know... you're on a budget and that saves you a good $60 at least.
>The article I linked from 3dguru lists a fucking reference 970 aswell.
Multiple models of the same card and at most thats only 10w more. Still puts it 40 watts under 300.
>>336983758
look at this retard, ignoring things like FACTS because he's a fucking retard.
>>336983851
exactly how much room do you need? The pc I built uses 245-260 depending on a couple parts. 40-55watts is almost 20%.
>>336983891
I've already linked two pcpartpicker builds proving him wrong. Even if he does use stock parts that won't magically save him 30/40w. Even with a magical 30/40w saving the pc will still be at 300w peak power consumption. His argument is pointless and stupid.
>>336984154
>holyshit this still exist?
Yes, they started putting more people on it when W3 went gold.
>why does everyone any like it when they never seen any gameplay footage?
Not sure I understand but.
According to CDPR gameplay graphics will be close to what we saw in the trailer.
That would be a giant leap in graphical fidelity but I doubt it'd run on most machines.
>>336984289
>The pc I built
theoretically built. My current pc is built for photoshop usage and other editing software so it's jacked in ram and SDDs/HDDs.
>>336984289
>buying a 970 for $400 when you can't afford a fucking PSU
>>336984289
you could probably do well still with 20%, but another issue to think about, is the wattage rating of 300 all on your 12v rail? or is is allotting like 50w to your 3.3 etc. i see that happen a lot.
>>336983851
I beg you explain to this fuckbrain about how advertised power consumption is almost never correct. Components always use more.
>>336984435
>970 for $400
They uhh... what?
Let's say you have a budge of $300 to upgrade your PC for whatever reason. Ah shit, the 970 is $320 and with tax is $340.
You can either get a worse card+PSU or just get the 970 because guess what? It will work under 300w fucking anyways you dumb fuck.
>>336984729
Point being is that if you can't afford to spend $80 you shouldn't spend $400 on a fucking gpu.
It even costs more than $400 where I live.
>>336973618
TDP =/= power draw
>>336984289
>saves you a good $60 at least.
>quick search of newegg finds a 600w 80+ bronze corsair for $49 after rebate with the 500w and 450w models much cheaper on other sites
>>336985072
>Point being is that if you can't afford to spend $80 you shouldn't spend $400 on a fucking gpu.
This makes no fucking sense.
You're saying that because you can't buy 2 things then you can't buy 1? Especially since you don't even fucking need the second thing. Just because someone might have $300 budgeted doesn't mean that's all the money they own. Just that they have $300 budgeted for that one thing and don't want to spend more than they have to.
why stop there then? Using your logic if you can afford a $300 video card, an $80 PSU why not just upgrade fucking everything? If you can't afford $1000 then why bother with any of it?
Makes no god damn sense and you're grasping for anything at this point.
The 970 is $319.99 on newegg for the brand I normally buy from.
>>336982228
>1440p
Well no shit.
>>336983516
Nope.
>>336985436
>$49 after rebate
>$20 rebate CARD
Have fun with that.
Also
>corsair
>good
>>336984729
Chances are if you're have a 300w psu you're using a shitty prebuilt which will
1. Have a really shitty budget psu which will probably overload and fry your 970 and other components
2. Most likely won't have the relevant power connectors for a 970
3. Means it'll be using some shitty pentium which makes the 970 a pointless purchase because of obvious bottlenecks
>>336983516
Soon? No fucking way.
>>336983516
Nope, even a 1080 runs the new Doom game at 200 fps. The only benefit is for VR and 4K.
>>336985742
Are you denying I proved you wrong?
>>336985593
You base that around the thought that I 300W PSU would do it's job which it won't.
And yes, if you can't afford to spend an extra 50 to 80 bucks you shouldn't fucking bother with building a rig or upgrading.
A 970 costs more than 420 on sale where i'm from.
https://www.inet.se/produkt/5411279/asus-geforce-gtx-970-4gb-strix-dc2-oc/#specs
is the 750ti still a decent card for someone on an extreme budget
>>336985742
if you are insinuating that corsair is a shit brand, i'd definitely have to disagree with you. i've been using corsair cases and power supplies for ages, with no issues.
>>336986120
for 40fps on medium/low settings.
Sure.
You're better off saving money for something decent.
>>336986219
I mostly agree. Although the CX series has been proven to be shit. And stuff like the RM performs bettter than their more expensive HX series, etc.
>>336984350
>According to CDPR gameplay graphics will be close to what we saw in the trailer.
As it stands, what is the most graphical video game to date and does it compare to Cyperpunk's reveal trailer?
There's no way a company in such a position would purposely threw themsleves into an extremely niche market of gamers who afford to buy $5000.00+ machines.
>>336965507
>trusting nvidia preapproved promotional graphs
Anon. Are you retarded? No, seriously. Are you literally damaged in the head?
>>336986349
You wouldn't need a $5000 machine.
But no, there is nothing on any platform that comes close to the cyberpunk trailer.
>>336968693
I'm literally playing on a 5 year old card right now
I'm still able to run every new game at either medium or high settings and still get 60fps. The most demanding game I regularly play atm is second life, and that's because it's rendering engine is a complete piece of shit.
If you check out what most people have in their computers, over half the population has stuff worse than 8 year old cards and cpu's. Two years from now, I doubt much will have changed.
>>336965507
So is the 1080 weaker than the Titan in terms of power?
but you also have to pay nearly an entire months rent for one
>>336984350
>That would be a giant leap in graphical fidelity but I doubt it'd run on most machines.
It won't necessarily be that way. Look at a game like Battlefront. It has some of the secrets visuals of any game to date and runs like a peach even on toasters. I know 2077 will obviously be more demanding because there'll be more way more assets within the world compared to Battlefront but they could still get it to run well on lower end pc's.
>>336974450
>all my gaming will be 144fps
I recently sold a 1080p 144hz monitor for a 1440p 60hz monitor.
You will be playing about a third of your games in 144fps, if youre lucky.
The overwhelming majority are hardcapped at 60 and often tied to the engine so you cant unlock it without breaking the game itself. 60fps on a 144hz monitor doesnt look awful but it looks very jarringly artificial.
Oh, and a lot of your games will experience issues in 144fps regardless because devs dont give a fuck about atypical builds.
Just a heads up, chap.
>>336986571
The leaked benchmark with a comparison benchmark showed that a clocked 1080 would pull 30-40% on a 980ti.
>>336986683
What? I asked if it's more powerful than Titan. That's what it says on OP's graph.
>>336968693
No, only VR shit would make it worthwhile, and by the time that comes out the 1080 will be cheaper and/or outdated.
>>336986668
Sexiest* visuals
Fucking autocorrect
>>336986736
http://videocardz.com/59558/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-3dmark-benchmarks
Full run-down can be had at the link above, TL/DR version-
Bad news - the 1080 performs only a small amount above the 980ti,
Good news - the price of the 980ti should drop when the new cards roll out.
Looking like this might still be the best option. I'm a bit gutted if I'm honest, I was expecting really good things.
>>336986736
Obviously yes.
>>336985812
>assuming
>6 pin connectors are very common
>i5-4690 shitty
hmm, ok bud.
>>336986105
>300W PSU would do it's job which it won't.
what the fuck does that even mean? If it's a good-brand PSU then it will put out what they advertise.
>>336986219
>>336986309
brands are personal. I'm sure their fine but I have had bad experience with them personally. It's probably just bad luck on my part but still.
>>336986038
It's still $65+tax you have to pay upfront. You won't see that "rebate card" for another 8 months IF it fucking ever arrives in the first place. When buying shit online mail-in rebates don't factor in to price at all. They just don't fucking arrive 50% of the time.
>>336968693
I've got a 120hz 4k monitor, so basically anything really.
>>336986120
Unless you're going to limit yourself to last gen game, no.
With that said I was able to get an acceptable performance out of mine (750 GTX not even a Ti) in GTA V and The Witcher 2, doubt it could handle much more than that though.
>>336986793
I'm sorry, I meant OP's graph says it's WEAKER than Titan. So I'm confused.
