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Post craziest downgrades in gaming
>Runing
is the top image the image sonyfags would always spam saying this game had the best graphics in gaming ?
>>336955374
>two buttons
>"all of the best games this generation are ps4 exclusives"
>"lol, graphics, who cares pcucks?"
>sweating space man
>>336955585
>sonyfags
It was viral marketing.
>everyone knows sonyggers joined in!
Yup, at which point, they became part of the virus, only worse. At least the patient zeros are paid.
>>336955597
butthurt sonyfag detected ;)
DELETE THIS
It still hurts
>>336956075
my vote goes for this damm what a shame looked so dark and good
The Witcher 3. I lost all the comparison images but that downgrade was crazy.
>>336956075
Just play DS3 then
>>336955374
>PC
>Sam's Tower
>PS4
>Drake can't tell because it's all blurred
wow
>>336956252
source hombre
>>336956337
still searchin
I Am Alive
Went from a crazy large-scale urban survival game with loads of factions and exploration down to a linear Tomb Raider ripoff with shit graphics.
>>336956337
Pornhub
>>336955827
>reading comprehension
>>336956252
Source pls
>>336956252
Fug
>>336955374
>runing in ps4
Fuck the graphics, fix your fucking grammar and spelling.
>>336956391
where?
>>336955374
I honestly don't see a difference. The PS4 version has more fog, thats about it.
>>336955374
AND
IT
BEGINS
>>336955374
Oh gee, again with the object of interest being on the opposite edge of the map. Who comes up with this shit??
>>336956584
gtfo phoneposter
>>336956584
>fog
You mean blurred, also look at their hair
>Naughty Dog makes really good bullshots
>Lighting changes from bullshots to final game, as well as overall graphical quality
>Lighting is used as an excuse for it looking worse
every time
>>336956556
Does it really need to be that girl? I think you have over 100 videos with nakes boobs on Pornhub, Xvideos, Xhamster and so on so forth.
>>336956640
lighting and detail on the characters nearest the camera are also much better on pc
>>336956614
Any video of the final game in that scene?
The Witcher 3 still pains the fuck out of me, I didn't expect CDPR to fuck up that much after how fantastic W2 looked.
At least Ini Tweaking + Modders is slowly bringing it back up to what we should have gotten at launch.
>>336956614
This is only because she farted and that sweet, life giving gas if filling the bus. Truly it must be heaven.
>>336956252
cmon titties.
>>336956584
look at the fucking clouds the water everything.
>>336956858
Game looks fucking fine famalam
>>336957076
>fine
post more more tits
>>336956858
The worst thing is they fucking lied about it.
People said they saw a downgrade and not only did they deny a downgrade exists, they promised the retail version would have even better graphics than what they had shown so far.
There's a lot of games that have gone through a downgrade but most devs just kind of keep their mouths shut about it and don't comment on speculation, I think CDPR is the only one to have ever flat out lied. Have they even admitted they downgraded the graphics yet?
>>336955374
DELETE THIS!!!!!!!!!!
Watch underscore dogs looked like the fucking future, I could've jacked off to a game that had the E3 demo's lighting engine
>>336955827
>being this fucking stupid ;)
>>336957372
Yes, before the release, they mentioned they had to reduce the visual quality of the PC version because of a Sony and MS mandate, otherwise they wouldn't be allowed to release it on their consoles.
>>336956252
Fucking whore
>>336956648
>>336956658
>>336956889
I seriously still don't see it. It just looks like the PS4 has more fog, or "blur" as what you called it. There is no difference other than that. Also, the screenshots might look different because they are taken in different positions (notice the plant leaf on the top image on the right, but not as noticable on the bottom image)
>>336957076
No one would deny that The Witcher 3 still looks good, but it pales in comparison to the VGX Trailer / Screenshots that were released around that time, and is even still a solid bit behind the 2014 demo.
Most of it isn't really "that" bad (Depends how much you value fire/particles/grass etc), which is why it still does ultimately look good, but the Lighting, LoD and retarded fog implementation is just fucking horrible.
When downgrades happen it really shows how much console fags wish their games were made for a PC so that these graphics could actually be achieved if you chose to invest further in your machines power. Its so disgusting that the industry needs to suffer for the existence of consoles. At least they serve to corral the worst of the worst gamers into their console prison.
>lower half is an YT compressed image
>top was demoed on a PS4 dev kit (which not a PC) Which is also the same demo that ND showed on GDC and to Eurogamer's game preview. the same dev kit was earlier used to demo No man's sky
its cumbersome to bring a Desktop PC when you can already run the demo on a devkit that Sony provided for the PS4 event panel
>>336957663
>plant detail
>foliage amount
>left guys shirt has more detail
>lighting on 2 dudes completely different
>more detail on right guys shirt
>hair looks more detailed
>buildings/river/hill/clouds in the distance much more clear
>nearby house on right is shown as nice house in PC or shack in PS4
nigga are you blind
>>336957076
FFXV
>>336957945
I've yet to see any real downgrades for FFXV that wasn't comparing it to pre-rendered CG movies
>>336957663
>There is no difference other than that.
Fuck your b8, look at the leaves on the foreground on the left. In the top image, the leaves of the bush are 3D, an actual model in the world. In the image below, it's just a flat texture.
>>336955374
>It's a photoshopped downsampled screenshot vs awful bitrate low quality screenshot thread
When will /v/ finally grow up?
>>336957593
Oh, yeah, that's right. They blamed the consoles and then told everyone not to blame the consoles.
But you are wrong about it being before release. They admitted it on the day of release, when continuing to deny it would have been ridiculous now that everyone had the game.
>>336957895
D-DELETE THIS
>>336956584
look at their clothes, the fabric, the leather...
>>336956252
I could deal with everything but the clouds.
Those were some god damn great clouds and they and they've gone and fucked it up.
Unforgiveable.
Those clouds look so retarded now. Pretty sure the one on the right is drooling.
>>336957913
what MMO is this
>>336955374
>low quality screenshots
in 2 days we'll see.
>>336957913
What platform was that top pic taken on? Jesus..
>>336957880
That's the most honest answer from a dev I have heard. I'm impressed.
And also wondering why that's such a hard fucking thing to admit.
>>336956861
God damn't I'm ashamed I laughed
>>336955374
ouch. Good thing this cucksole generation is going to last less than 3 years.
>>336955374
this makes me feel so fucking bad for being so poor..
>>336958325
>using a different renderer
lel
>>336958039
>talking about 90's
>piracy a big problem on PC
>look to friends who had a console
>If had n64 just 3 original games
>If had psx, no original games or just the psx demo.
>>336958325
that looks like the ps4/xbone version through youtube to me
>>336958325
Nice mods retard. The top is PC but it's the actual normal version of the game.
And even with Mods, look at the fucking hut at the back of your picture, the LoD in TW3 is all kinds of fucked up. Building textures especially turn to complete mush off in the distance, and very easily visible distance too. Not to mention those textures switch INSTANTLY from LoD 0 > LoD shit, which is jarring as absolute fuck.
>>336958235
and both crysis 2 & 3 sold less than the original game
what now sonygger?
>>336958235
But what caused the budget to triple? From having played the game, Crysis 3 is the shortest and smallest of them all, so I guess it wasn't invested into the game, or did Crytek create 3 different games for the 3 different systems?
>>336958606
>>336958325
>Clearly shows keyboard prompts
>I-IT'S THE CONSOLE VERSION, FUCKING FALSEFLAGGERS
Kek.
>>336958569
He didn't say piracy caused them to change platforms in the 90s, it caused them to change platforms with the release of Gears of War, which was 2006. He said the 90s was when the budgets began to grow.
It's honestly baffling to me that there are still people that think the ease with which PC games are pirated, or at least were until denuvo, has no effect on the market.
>>336958961
>pls no bully muh poor developers
>>336958275
Is the second screenshot in-game?
>>336958268
Black Desert Online
Everyone always spams this "VIRAL MARKETING" shit, but where does someone even get a job like that? It doesn't even exist.
>>336959123
>EmEmOh
>>336959471
fuck off
>>336959197
Its the advertising department
The same people that pay for commercials
Basically they pay a group to post all over social media. You can literally google all of this stuff.
>>336959524
no you fuck off
>>336956614
I never understood this one because the bottom one isn't even an in game cutscenes. It's pre-rendered.
What the fuck prevented them from continuing with the lie?
>>336957076
List of things that were removed/downgraded:
The mod kit
Subsurface scattering
Forward lit soft particles
Semi volumetric clouds
Bokeh depth of field
Seems like a lot of the PBR they bragged about
Combat camera shake
Convincing and gratuitous pools of blood that 'realistically' floated on water
Subtle lens flares
Tessellated ground
Anamorphic lens flares
Flexible water simulation
Geralt's face was severely downgraded
In-game scenes like the Wild Hunt attacking the town and the introduction to the emperor of Niilfgard were changed to worse effect
Aerial perspective fog
Sign particle intensity was lowered
Many textures in Novigrad were downgraded
Volume based translucency
Many environment models in Novigrad
Interior lighting looks horrendous now
The bloom shader sucks, you can see how it was before in the wild hunt segment
Screen space reflections
The way drowners look was good and is really bad now
>>336957880
>>336958329
This was damage control, read the comments section of the article for literally hundreds of posts proving that they said was bullshit.
Has there ever been a game that looked better than its trailer? Playing games feels more and more like watching anime, great opening with fluid animation to sucker you in and then 20 minutes of horrible animation and overal worse visuals.
>>336959430
Chill out autismo, I was only answering his question.
>>336959832
>Games aren't made on PC and they can't use it to playtest their products
>>336959887
>Has there ever been a game that looked better than its trailer?
Both Crysis and Killzone 2 did this, albeit, the killzone one was due to an artstyle change
>>336960009
yeah that whole top image is prerendered and on the ebony engine bottom is demo on lumnious
>>336959887
The Witcher 2.
Which only makes it more sad what happened with 3.
>>336959607
Hi :3
xbots on suicide watch, enjoy your "exclusives"
>>336960157
Same with TW1 if you count patches.
>>336960118
Crysis did not look better than advertised. They lowered the physics a LOT.
>>336960049
Console games do that all the time, screenshots all go through some extra post processing to make them look better. Trackmania 2 had that too.
>>336960083
LMAO PCuck. You really believe this.
PCs are things of the past. Everyone knows PS4 can do everything a PC, so they make the game on the PS4.
>>336959806
You should read some dev commentaries on Uncharted 3 to understand all the difficulties ND had to make the game even run on the PS3. Even weeks before its gold status, they couldn't run the game properly because it would constantly crash and it was filled with bugs. The PS3 just couldn't handle it, so they downgraded everything, from the lighting system to character models and got it to run fairly smoothly. You can partially thank Sony and its forced 3D implementation for some of the problems.
>>336959607
I like you too :3
>>336960120
>yeah that whole top image is prerendered and on the ebony engine bottom is demo on lumnious
No it wasn't. The trailer said it was real time.
>>336960339
Why do you let developers fool you into believing bullshit like this? They lied about their product, that's it.
>>336955374
I waited YEARS for... this?! Hold me /v/... I wanted to believe sony one more time... I wanted to invest my money in Hirai Kaz and his great company, but this is too much for me... What the FUCK was that all for, why did they do for what they went in the graphics for
>>336960402
>Why do you let developers fool you into believing bullshit like this? They lied about their product, that's it.
Because programmers, artists, and such don't actually talk about their games while they are making them. It's their marketing departments that try to sell the game, in this case Sony's. I don't see a reason to discredit a programmer when he is explaining the problems he had to make a game run properly due to system limitations, strict deadlines, and useless features.
>>336960546
>prerenderer vs in-game
We dont talk about that.
>>336960606
>LIMIT 30
>>336956293
hee hee
>>336959092
yep real-time
>>336960345
whats your skype bby :3
>>336960606
The one on the right looks like it takes place at a different time of day while they're moving, which is why it's blurred
>>336960816
I've been looking for this for ever.
The PC version didn't even look like the top pic, Rockstar really fucked us.
>>336955374
"See that Tower? Well it's there, but its not rendered yet."
>>336959867
I enjoyed the game, still one of the best looking games out there. If anything cdprojekt has learned a valuable lesson about lying to customers about graphical quality so they'll never do it again.
>>336960912
They don't give a fuck about their fanbase, don't kid yourself.
It's strictly business for them.
>>336960886
They're both PC right?
>>336959113
right looks more minimalistic and better imo.......
>>336955374
IT'S NOT REAL! BOTTOM IS JUST A COMPRESSED YOUTUBE VIDEO! ON MY 50 INCHES SONY BRAVIA TV IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE TOP PICTURE!
>>336960902
Whats game is this?
>>336960763
Holy shit what is this, ps1?
>>336960837
Moist.2003
>>336960606
>>336960839
Ancient bait. The one on the right was taken from the live stream and the one on the left was taken once they officialy uploaded the trailer.
And yes the shadows are different because the time of day.
>>336961059
This one breaks my heart
>>336961053
no it'spre-beta
>>336961059
Holy fuck dude.
>>336956075
dumping
>>336960912
>If anything cdprojekt has learned a valuable lesson about lying to customers about graphical quality so they'll never do it again.
What on earth makes you think this is true?
Their statement about it amounted to "Yes, we lied, but it's a good thing we lied because it's the only way this game would exist." They applauded their lies and made no mention of never doing it again in future.
>>336961059
>ywn go to disneyland in your lifetime
feels bad
>>336961137
Care to explain the horrible AF on the road?
>>336961059
>games will never look like the top image in your lifetime
Why even continue to live
STOP IT STOP IT RIGHT FUCKING NOW. MODS JUST BAN THESE PCFUCKHEADS ALREADY FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF
>>336961137
The clouds are exactly the same and so was the trailer.
It just got downgraded you faggot. No shadows, worse textures, worse models, worse everything.
>>336961182
inb4 they say it was CG while disregarding that downgrading CG is literally a massive waste of money.
>>336961260
That's just the PC version.
>>336955374
woa
>>336960964
>Naughty dog confirmed more than once that Uncharted 4 runs real time cutscenes
>I'll just ignore that fact and dive in my denial pool
>>336956075
2
>>336961252
>left car is stopped
>right car is moving
>>336961360
>Naught Dog confirmed lies about literally every game they've ever made
>>336955374
>Uncharted 4
>running on PC
>this is what PCucks believe
kek
>>336956075
3
>>336960337
Baiting this hard
>>336961418
Left care was clearly moving in its reveal trailer, so try again.
>>336961498
>>336961394
it's impressive what lighting alone can do for a game's visuals
>>336961279
I KNOW RIGHT! FUCK OFF PCFAGS
STOP MAKING ME TO EXPERIENCE BUYER'S REMORSE
>>336956075
4
>>336961483
Dude, consoles are literally PCs now. "Supercharged" PCs.
>>336955960
>>336958103
>>336960576
>>336961010
>>336961279
How do these people have fun spending their time posting stuff like this? I'm really trying to understand because every vaguely platform related thread has a lot of them and I honestly don't understand the fun of it
>>336961279
Needs a version where he's black tbqh
>>336961394
>>336961224
So these straight up just look like Beta versions of DSIII running on the the Bloodborne engine.
>>336955374
Running fucktard. If you're going to post "master race" shit don't be retarded.
I just want to play games period, but you assholes are triggered by how people play on anything.
>>336959051
Anon where do you see keyboard prompts?
>>336961646
They're immature retards for a lack of better words. Literally the worst posters on 4chan, possibly the internet.
>>336961482
Funny fact: all those are PC games, coincidence? I think not.
>>336961685
This is a thread about downgrades friend
>>336961173
This one legitimately is just the lighting. All the details are still there
>>336961173
It annoys me that faggots still try to deny MGSV's downgrade.
>>336961787
All of those also had console ports, coincidence? I think not.
>>336959832
>yfw
8/10 images posted in this thread is either comparing compressed youtube screenshot compared to promo pics or screen shots from literal animations.
There hasn't been a single gameplay to gameplay actual downgrade comparison besides the souls and xenoblade pics.
Hilarious how desperate you guys are for you's, pc clowns going to pc clown though. keep being the most cancerous lmao
>>336955374
>>336961836
Just look at his face, If you can't see the differences, then Kojima. bless you .
>>336960337
This is just sad.
>>336961173
Yeah MGSV's wasn't too bad, it was just a lighting pass they took off.
And in reality they made distant things better looking in the final build.
On top of that the engine loads in more from further away at higher resolutions, especially if you manually tweak the setting file to load everything at max distance, it's still super good looking.
>>336961947
>Witcher 2 on highest settings possible vs Witcher 3 on lowest settings possible
You're not even trying m8
>>336961919
I hope you're just lying to get a reply and not actually retarded.
>>336959832
>>336962006
>it's still super good looking.
Too bad there's fucking nothing in it unless you like looking at premium quality rocks and sand.
>>336957372
The worst part is that they even lied about the Modkit.
They won't allow people to fix their fucking game. I believe W3 will be their last good/okay game, everything from now on will be Bioware tier.
>>336962148
I actually enjoyed the emptiness, my only real gripe is enemy patrols and stuff should have been more intense, eventually I singlehandedly wiped out Africa.
>>336961583
Lighting and material shaders are a lot more important than most people give credit. A lot of people just blow their loads over textures or particles, when poor lighting can basically ruin everything else.
>>336961836
Whatever you say man.
>>336955374
>>336962029
wrong pic sorry
>>336956075
>>336961224
>>336961394
>>336961498
>>336961609
What bothers me the most about this is the fact that they removed the shininess of the plate armor, which makes every plate armor in the game looks matte/frosted.
>>336962006
They fucked the graphics a lot. It looked next-gen in trailers but the actual game was a last-gen port to PC. It looks worse than a lot of games older than it.
Here's an example of the weather and flora being butchered.
>>336955374
>even the sky texture is changed for a worse looking one
>it would have no performance impact at all to keep the original
What the actual fuck
>>336961753
my brain can't even conceive how much of a retard a person has to be to spend their time writing awful posts like those ones I replied to earlier
It's like a bunch of teenagers acting like complete idiots just because they think it's fun when everyone around them is facepalming at how retarded they are
>>336961947
put Witcher 1 in that image too
>>336962287
What they should've done is stuck to previous methods of tight level design with a linear approach or even semi open world. Instead we got levels that were essentially huge circles and people parading around how great it was they could enter it from a different direction despite the fact that level design had completely lost its sense of progression and quality. Fuck open world.
>>336961031
not him but I think its rambo
>>336962425
>>it would have no performance impact at all to keep the original
There's a clear resolution difference between the two.
>>336961031
rambo
>>336962423
Consoles really need to make the step to upgradable parts. Maybe then we won't see all these horrible downgrades and be able to enjoy better games on PC. To expect any of them to make a non-butchered PC version is expecting too much at this point.
>>336961609
God Dark Souls II was an abortion in every category.
>>336962491
That game didn't age well at all, I'd rather cut my own dick off than to play Witcher 1 again senpai.
>>336961719
The bottom right you dumbass
>>336956075
it's ok when From does it
>>336962029
TW3 had some really shitty graphics forced on it to run on consoles. The rain is a perfect example.
>TW2 had an amazing rain shader that distorted the screen and had volume
>TW3 has 2 transparent textures placed in front of you and move when you move your camera, looks like shit
The lighting at night and in interiors is also garbage in 3 compared to 2.
>>336962316
I set the time and weather to mirror the time and weather of the trailer and I maxed out the graphics because the cutscenes was still 1:1 despite the downgrade.
And you can CLEARLY tell how butchered it was.
TW3 has the worst downgrade because CDPR used to be bros but then they stooped to this level.Their next game will use Denuvo because they know the enemy they've made.
This thread makes me frustrated and disappointed.
Sure, it's good to start with high ambitions, and effective to lure people in with better E3 graphics. Sure, there are hardware limitations you run into.
But goddammit the final result is just feeling like you got gipped out of what could have been. At least make the trailers CLOSE to what the game will be like. Every time this shit happens I lose faith in the industry as a whole. It's why I never preorder anything anymore.
>>336962775
>tw3 apologists will defend this
>>336960049
Doesn't Smash has something like this as well?
>>336962648
>>336962775
This will never stop being funny.
>>336956075
I like how they sold a dx11 version with no noticable changes a few months later.
>>336962954
was TW2 the last real PC exclusive?
>>336962671
Witcher II was easily the best game in the series. Damn shame.
>>336962492
>What they should've done is stuck to previous methods of tight level design with a linear approach or even semi open world
My best advice for you is to never touch the new Mirror's Edge then
>>336960816
That's a ps3/xbox 360 shot at the bottom.
>>336963000
>a few months later
It was a year later, and people on PC who bought it were stupid since it was clearly made for consoles, not PC.
>>336963027
Big budget one? Yeah probably. There are some really cool indie games that look great though but without marketing most can't even remember what they're called.
>>336963079
PC version looks better but it's not even close to what the CG scene looked like.
Okay how about that my friends.
Of course there was a downgrade for Witcher 3.
Of course it could have looked better.
But that doesn't change the fact that it still is one of the best looking games out there.
>>336963051
Well too bad the series wasn't even good to begin with.
>>336962845
Possible. It will still get a ton of preorder on the only pretense of 'open world'. It will also have shit gameplay like TW3.
>>336955960
>whites and Polacks
>>336963079
And you actually think the PC/PS4/Xbone version looks as good as the one on the top?
>>336962671
TW2 will age great
>>336962775
This one genuinely pisses me off. I can get over lower quality textures and poor LOD but this is just ridiculous.
And the game does have some nice looking river water too.
>>336963051
You've got to be a complete retard to actually think that. It's by far the worst.
>>336963027
>was TW2 the last real PC exclusive?
>TW2
>PC exclusive
wut
>>336962671
>>336962648
Here's another.
>>336963226
If you play the game pre-EE your opinion will be even more enforced. The EE had scenes that looked worse than the original, that one for instance lost its original edge with the new rendering.
>>336963270
It was ported to consoles, not multiplat. Making it for PC then porting is the only way to make good games.
>>336956390
Its a damn shame. Ended suggesting a sequal too.
>>336963352
It was the most consolized entry in the series, what the FUCK are you talking about. Compare the changes to Witcher 1 and it's clear as day.
>>336963438
Gameplay wise sure but graphics wise absolutely not.
>>336963438
If you mean it finally offered good gameplay, you are right.
>>336962537
>Completely washed out textures after 10 meters in the 2013 version and recycled skybox form Ground Zeroes and less landscape
>Textures and shadows popping in and out during the truck scene in the e3 2013 trailer
>Downgrade
I'll only agree to the Sub-surface scattering that impacts the aesthethics, using a more clear filter for the 2013 lighting can't impact performance unless you're a complete idiot
>>336962953
Smash for the 3DS uses lower poly models in the match, and higher when is paused or in the victory screen
>>336963438
I don't even like any of Witcher games, I am just telling you how it works.
>>336963270
To be fair, The Witcher 2 was made for PC and then painfully ported to the xbox. It's almost always the other way around now, e.g. The Witcher 3.
It used to be fairly common for a game to made for PC and then ported to consoles later, even during the last gen, now it's almost unheard of. The only games that come out on PC before consoles these days are indie games and that's only because it's a lot easier and cheaper to release your game on PC, there are no gatekeepers.
>>336963570
Don't just ignore the first part of your post you cunt.
Why don't they just make cutscenes pre-rendered?
>>336963549
2013 was the PC game, in beta, that was downgraded. Kojima thought next-gen was going to be good so he even promised that the game would look better.
Textures and models AND shadows pop-in still in the final game so I don't know what you're getting at.
They downgraded the lighting, weather, and the PBR they bragged about. Don't defend it.
>>336963614
yeah very lazy. at least modders are here
pcucks are fucking delusional.
There is no pc port of Uncharted 4 so there is no downgrade.
>>336963642
The port was great, though. It ran fantastic.
>>336963725
For uncharted? Because you can't prerender the entire game.
>>336963839
Modders fixed the game up great but 90% of this list>>336959867 can't be fixed by them.
why do people complain about downgrades? do you think a company would willingly make their game worse? obviously downgrades happen because they have to
why else would they do them?
>>336963939
>>336956390
it was never that first thing
>>336958650
>>336958532
>It doesnt count because my console cant do it
Never not makes me laugh. Fucking kids...
>>336963913
yeah! I agree!
me and my wifes son love this game!
>>336963839
putting the better one on the left is confusing
>>336963917
>much worse graphics
>30fps
>The port was great, though.
>>336963725
it takes a lot of space
>>336956732
It's not about the objective but about the principal.
>>336964019
>because they have to
The only reason they'd "have to" is if they're limited by hardware, which means that consoles not being good enough made a game worse.
>>336964210
...of course it's not going to run like the PC version, are you fucking daft?
It's a great port, runs great on the hardware (yes, 30fps is great considering how it looked on PC) and even plays better sometimes.
Reading comprehension, jesus fuck.
>>336963686
>2016
>using jifs
at least it fits in the line of downgrades
>>336964159
It doesn't count because it has nothing to do with the actual game. It's like giving Bethesda an award for Skyrim having great graphics, when it was mods by other people that made it look good, and not Bethesda or Skyrim itself.
