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Release already, I hate knowing that all my progress and drops
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Release already, I hate knowing that all my progress and drops will be lost.

Reeeeee etc.
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>Lost drops
Than you shouldn't have played the Beta.
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>>336938556
Stopped playing because of this very reason desu
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>>336938890
This
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>>336938890
Sort of the same for me. Also, I don't want to burn out on it before it's even released
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>>336938726
If I hadn't played the beta then I wouldn't have found out that I like the game.
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>>336938556
>60 eurobucks
Not worth it.
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>>336938890
The problem is that the only other game I have right now is Hearthstone and it tends to piss me off because I've just started and have shit cards.

I'd buy D3 but I already preordered OW.

Being a poorfag sucks.
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>>336939463
>€60
That's for the Origins Edition. The standard one is €40 which is what I bought.
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>>336939071
Fair enough, but then you shouldn't complain about lost drops. This has been known for a while.
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why are there so many complaints about the price?
no one ever complains about the price of other triple A titles.
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>>336939894
>Origins Edition
What's in it that's worth the additional 20?
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>fourty european currency units for this
did someone say dead in a month?
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>>336940075
they are mainly story based games with content
this has nothing
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>>336940075
I'd happily pay 20-30 dollarydoos on the current state of the game but not 40 or 60 senpai
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>>336940075
Poorfags and third worlders are upset they can't ruin this game like they do every f2p.
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>>336940324
yeah story based games that you'll probably play through once and be done with, multiplayer games have lasting appeal.
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>>336940075
Mostly cause this game doesn't have a single player like most AAA titles and is a purely Multiplayer game, something most people associate with F2P titles nowadays.
Although nobody complained about Garden Warfare 2's price, even though that was a full $60.
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POST 'EM
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Bastion is a WHOOOOOORE

game is pretty fun though.
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>>336938726
>>336938890
>stopped playing because of muh pixels

so you don't actually like the game
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>>336940595
>blizzdrone defenses

>>336940684
maybe because nobody gives a fuck about that game?
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>>336940830
I mean it shouldn't be something you are worried about losing.
If it's that big of a deal to you, don't play until your shit is guaranteed after learning you do actually like the game.
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>>336940595
i played like 20 hours during this free week/weekend and i have almost no desire to go back to it. several maps are just shit and a lot of the others are samey, the netcode is fucking atrocious and almost every match comes down to your team comp rather then playing well. there's just no reason to buy the damn game after seeing it.
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>>336939925
Not really complaining, just a little upset because that game is addictive and I want to play yet I'm constantly reminded that my progress will be wiped.

>>336940120
Nothing. It's just a bunch of character skins for OW, an ugly WoW pet, HS card back, SC2 avatars and a Tracer hero for HotS (kek) IIRC.

>>336940212
Nice joke, lad.
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>>336938890
its not a good sign if a game need progression to be fun.
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>>336940813
I need some tips for ninja man.
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>>336940946
you can screencap this
it's dead within a month
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>>336941007
there is no real progression in this game, you get a random loot box every level and there's no level cap. it just sucks losing cool skins and stuff
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>Giving a fuck about progress
I have -75% XP gain because I left at the start of a match which I couldn't stop the joining process, excellent design.

I'm sure players will value this game greatly when they need to answer the door, pick up a phone call, have diarrhea, check on baby, whatever the fuck real life calls for.
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>>336939509
theres plenty of f2p out there
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I got a really good Reinhardt skin. Gold armor no helmet.. Fucking baller as shit. I'm going to lose it?!
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>>336940813
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>>336941249
Matches last less than 10 minutes each
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>>336941380
yes.
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>>336941007
Nigger i got the Ra skin for the most fun support and the Mariachi skin of edgelord man and they are fucking rad

I'm a little upset i'll be loosing them
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>>336941074
Play like an actual ninja. Use your wall climb to go after easy targets like widow, mercy, etc. You need to assassinate people. You are going to lose if you go head on vs. most people. Get in, get picks, get out. Use your reflect sparingly. Use your ultimate only after your team goes in. You should never be the first in on a team fight.
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>>336941380
I keep hearing that Preorders get to keep their stuff, but I'm not holding my breath.
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>>336940813
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>>336941329
I know there's PoE but I didn't like it.
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>>336941249
>I have a kid to take care of, so the rules should be set to appease my specific situation!
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>>336941509
>tfw woodbot AND fucking biker dwarf will be gone
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>I'm a total waifufag and only want to play Tracer and D.Va
>I'm terrible with both

Just fuck my shit up.
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>>336941509
>edgelord man
I like how you automatically know who that is. Top kek.
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>>336941590
Thank you, based healslut
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>>336941249
>I have bad time management, cater for ME!
you're the guy who joins games that are known to take an hour to finish, yet ask for the team to kick you at the start of the game because you are unorganised and won't accept the responsibility

fuck off
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>>336941658
tracer is purely for harassing and getting out of there. d.va is just kinda bad.
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>get legendary
>it's shit
>and it's for fucking symmetra
just
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>>336941631
>Currently gobbling a bowl full of blizzards juicy cocks
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I really enjoyed playing the beta. I will most likely be buying it day one.

I think it's a lot better than TF2 because there isn't any autists running around with their virtual hats.

People actually have trouble countering Bastion? I don't usually say this, but seriously, git gud.
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>20 tick rate
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>>336940813
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>>336942018
the problem is he is usually in one corner of the map with a reinhardt and a mercy up his asshole
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>>336938556
>Reeeeee etc.
You deserve this for caring in the first place and especially >>336939071
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>>336938556

>babby's first beta

the game shouldn't release until they fix a few things like, Bastion being able to heal in turret form, and not having a cooldown on his switch mode (the real reasons he's so powerful. Otherwise people would chip away at him with damage and he'd have to move off point to heal.), and Hanzo dragon arrow through the wall.
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>>336942201
I haven't personally experienced that yet. I'm playing on Xbox though, so idk about PC. Is it really that big of a problem?
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>>336941195
/v/ says this about almost every game
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>>336939509
have you considered sucking less Blizzard dick?
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>>336942235
>bastion
>powerful
when will this meme die
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>>336942327
/v/ says this about absolutely everything.
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>>336938556
Well fuck me I just got this as a drop. So much for that.
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>>336940813
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>>336940075

because it's only got 3 game modes and like, 8 maps, and it's still going to have an in game cash shop, and it's competing with TF2 which is free, and in a sense, MOBAs which are all pretty much free.
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>>336938556
Stopped playing because the game is fun and thats all it will ever be.

Fun is subjective in most terms but is mostly described as being something you play, and play and will find constant enjoyment with.

Overwatch is just that. Fun, dumb fun at that. It's a type of fun you can pick up, need no skill, and still stomp in. It's not the fun you get by successfully hitting your first awp shot, capturing your first intel as spy, or perfecting someone in a fighting game. It's a fun you get for running up, hitting someone and killing them and doing that so mindlessly that you find enjoyment out of it.

There are HUGE problems that force the game to just not work. Most of these problems arise in the balance, I can talk about how bastion is broken, or how torbjorns turret is too accurate at any range. But most of the balance issues arise in the maps themselves.

In team fortress 2 you have your standard game modes, payload, capture point, and capture the flag (intel) and these maps all have multiple spawn points for both attackers and defenders. Attackers never feel like they spawn too close to the objective and defenders never have to walk 10 miles to get to the objective. Everyone can get to the objective at the exact same time. No one side is favored because attackers spawn next to the payload and defenders have time to set up defenses. Every class on defense can get to the objective at the same time relatively speaking. There are multiple entry routes but they always lead towards the objective meaning, if your getting stomped you can go around and help your team mates in the back all classes can use these paths to their own unique advantages. All in all these maps work because they are balanced for both sides and if you lose, it's not because you got countered it's because you got outplayed by the better team.

In overwatch you have the same game modes, Payload, Capture point, and Capture the flag. 1/2 because too long
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>>336941969
That's the best character in the game faggot.
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from closed beta
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>>336942510
>1/2 because too long


Don't bother. Didn't read.
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My normie friends are getting tired of it. I doubt they will buy it so there is a fair chance the game will fail in the long run
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>>336942329

>set up viewing chokepoint in turret mode on defense
>hold LMB
>if you take damage use E without even having to move
>shred through even Reinhardt shields in a matter of 2 seconds
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>>336942328
I just like fun games, bro. No need to get your panties in a knot.
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>>336942693


STOP HAVING FUN

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>336942665
You also have 5 teammates that pick off anyone trying to snipe you and make sure noone is running past you
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>>336942510
oh yeah, what does the game actually function like apart from the whole champions bullshit? Objectives?
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The funniest thing is seeing the same complaint EVERY SINGLE TIME by new players: the game is one big choke and BASTION TORBJORN OP. It's hilarious because almost every new player parrots it but you don't see any people with more than 30 or so hours complaining because they realise that Torb is utterly useless and Bastion is highly situational, if not useless as well, and they learned that there's always a way through a defence. GET GOOD.
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>>336941074
Having two swords doesn't mean you're supposed to melee people.
You're moderately effective at all ranges, so try to fight at whatever range the enemy is less effective at.
His shuriken is great but has a travel time so it's harder to aim at non stationary targets.
Your role is to use your mobility to flank targets like widow, bastion and torbjorn, not bust through the front door, but sometimes it's better to just harass than go all in, you're not as good 1on1 like McCree, except when you ult (and your ult wont enable you to kill multiple people who aren't stupid or distracted either)
The deflect you need to practice to get right. Usually you need to use it when people are already shooting at you instead of using it before they start.
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>>336942693
Please. You're not even having fun. The game is tricking you into thinking you're having "fun" with its skinner box reward system. This is artificial enjoyment.
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>some shitty spray no one uses ever except on the Attackers' starting door
>some shitty voice-line no one ever uses except waiting for the Attackers' starting door
>some shitty unnoticeable recolor skin for some hero you never play
>legendary Play of the Game animation for a Healer
>giving a shit about Loot and Progress being erased when it already meant nothing
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>>336942693
playmorepromode
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>>336942884
You either capture and defends points or have to push or stop a moving cargo

There aren't many maps and since they're extremely narrow it takes forever to respawn and get to the action.
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>>336942887
Actually the real problem here is more that 8/10 the bastion sitting in the corner is also the play of the game and they are 'forced' to watch a terrible boring replay before they can leave the match or even see their stats. the games already breeding salt to start by it's designs, making everyone sit through the terrible terrible plays blizzard's shit algorithm picks as the 'best' play just throws more salt on the pile.
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>>336942510
In these game modes you have several maps, these maps have multiple entry routes, multiple counter points, and a ton of roof tops. In the similar tf2 fashion attackers are stuck in spawn for about a minute, defenders have time to set up. How ever there are not multiple spawns close by for both parties. Only the attackers will get this luxury. Defenders have to, no matter where the objective is walk to it which could take upwards of 2 minutes of game time which is 2 minutes you can't help your team. In this time frame the enemy can take the objective and kill your team. This isn't the fault of you, or your team being bad its the fault of the map. Like I mentioned in tf2's map design there are multiple entry routes. But most of these routes favor not everyone. They favor people who work close up, genji, reaper, bastion, torbjorn, ect. Unlike tf2 where a scout can go into the 2 fort sewers where most people would go you are stuck to the ground while the select few characters get to have and use their advantages. Not everyone gets the same map advantage, which simply does not work in a game where a reaper or a mei can press Q and instantly kill all of you and take the objective. This really sucks because you can be the best player in the game and still take 2 minutes to get back. Most of the maps are very linear as well, only leading to 1 area and needing to go out in the open exposing yourself to the enemy to go to another area behind them. This really sucks and is just not good design in general. Payload is also really unbalanced, the points are spread out almost at random either behind too close (like overwatch HQ) or being too far (route 69) and not giving everyone a fair advantage. It also feels in most of these maps symmetra and her teleporters are almost a necessity unlike the engineer you NEED her to get back to the action or have fun walking for 2 minutes.

I am going to wrap this up, so here is a tf2 overwatch comparison
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>>336938556
then don't open the crates you dumb autist
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>>336941074
Ninja man has the highest skill ceiling and can bust almost anybodies ass with the right plays.

Shirukens are your kill method, and mid range is your best best. Always aim for the head. Lead your shots as there's a short travel time. Only use the right mouse at very very close range. 3 shiruken hits is about 80 damage, almost 100 if you hit the head.

Use your dash for that bonus finishing damage and for escapes. You never want to get too close unless you can guarantee a kill. Keep hopping around on the walls and generally be a nuisance.

Do not engage Mei or Symmetra if you can. These guys can trash you. Be careful around Roadhog. Remember that you can always get killed in a couple of hits and you can never overcommit. Always have an escape plan.

Your ult is the team wipe machine. You want to kill people with the strikes, because every kill resets your dash. So you want to kill, dash, kill, dash and stay mobile.

Mobility is the key, along with accuracy.
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>>336940813
I really like D.va
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>>336943259
>2fort vs map that doesn't exist in overwatch
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i miss the games where individual skill of a player mattered and was highly valued. Now its all just "power of friendship" "we are da team" "lets hold hands" bullshit. webm slightly related and its shit and doesnt really reflect what im trying to say here but still you get the idea
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I just hope theyll increase the rate that youll earn currency.

Or that crates will be earned for more than just leveling up.
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>>336942407
How does his reload animation work considering the original has the Shuriken coming from his forearm?
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>>336943094
it's actually doing the reverse in my case. their Skinner boxes are so terrible I don't even 'want' them

>oh look a hearthstone booster, i mean an overwatch brand loot box.
>usually getting 4 commons and a blue tier, this seems oddly familar.
>hmm 90% of these seem to be filler sprays padded out by being class specific.
>Hmm i can get duplicates and they sell back for 5 currency.
>how is this incentivizing me to want it again?

I'd literally just sell the unopened boxes if I could.
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>>336943325
weeaboo
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>>336941541
>playing as Reinhardt
>get an ice wall raised behind me
>trapped with four guys in a hallway
>do my ult
>knock everyone down
>charge
>smash into a wall
>quadkill
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>>336943371
Map comparison anon. My point is that all maps in overwatch lead to only 1 point no matter the route. In tf2 you can take multiple routes leading you behind them, infront of them, or through their side.
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>>336940813
widow's fun
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>>336943407
>MUH SKILL
>Kills low tier retards who all 1v1 a solo guy from bad angles and melee attempts

this is probably your own gameplay footage. you probably feel proud of this?
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>>336943094
Stop projecting with your faggotry, please. I like the gameplay. The loot boxes are just an added bonus.
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>>336943325
>genji
>katakana
Isn't Genji an actual japanese name?
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>>336943407
And to think, it's all in the name of "E-sports"

Don't you want to join in on the fun and be competitive!? :^)
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>>336943676
Yep.
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>>336943602
Map design in over watch does suck, but you're exaggerating. A number of the 'side' routes do require some sort of movement ability though.
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>>336943574
Sorry
I'm actually not sorry
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>>336943407
it's just an excuse to avoid work on blizzards end in this case. same reason they can shrug off a lot of their terrible map design by going 'no it's balance because your supposed to alternate, even though we let everyone leave at round end.
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>>336943259
that shitty paint drawing sums up my experience with this game too. You can't really grab a friend or two and take some alternate route to the objective while the rest of the team keeps them busy like you could in TF2
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>>336943767
Yes and this sucks because they arn't open to everyone. You don't see winston taking a route genji does. In tf2 everyone can use the same routes no matter the class and be equally as effective.
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>>336943793
yep. I don't ever play king alley except for defense.
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>>336943653
>webm slightly related and its shit and doesnt really reflect what im trying to say here
you are retarded, arent you?
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>>336943602
Except OW has more routes than people are realising.

The people shouting "MUH CHOKE POINTS" havent actually researched the maps.

There are a TON of hidden routes that anyone with the ability to cross a gap can make.
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>>336943517
they are buyable with microtransactions, the entire reason the currency even exists is so that will people complain about that they can go 'well you can eventually buy what you want with currency, even though we also never let you sell anything, aside from duplicates, which we sheckle you on
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>>336943779
You should be
As long as you don't like a mal retard then it's okay
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>>336943325
>playing the game with Japanese TEXT
>as if playing with Japanese dub wasn't weeaboo enough
>on top of that main D.Va who's actually Korean
Weeaboos are dumb.
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>>336943259
You're misunderstanding the map design. The first point of any map is not meant to be held an advantages the attackers. Defenders are punished for overextending and only excellent play will result in a shutout. The second point is somewhere in the middle, and the final point greatly favors the defenders. It means that stalemates don't feel nearly so bad because you almost always take the first point. There are less entry routes to maps, of course, but there are heroes with so much more mobility than the TF2 classes and wall climbing to get around this fact. You can speed boost teams in with Lucio to burst through chokes as well. It's not a fair comparison.

If certain maps are easier for attackers, that's fine, because you get to play both sides during a match.

To call Overwatch mindless is a bit dumb. There are heroes with high skill ceilings that I have found just as satisfying as CS or TF2. It's laughable to imply that TF2 is less mindless.

If you honestly think bastion or torb are broken, refer to my previous post.

I take your point that there aren't a lot of game modes though.
>>336943220
>letting a bastion get play of the game

get good
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>>336943925
I've found so many places to snipe people as widow and genji, it's ridiculous. especially maps like ilios and anubis temple
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>legit criticism of game
>"git gud xD"
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>>336943925
Actually I have researched the maps, taken screenshots from an above view and they are the same, there are no hidden routes. All the routes lead into the front door. Unlike in tf2 where multiple routes lead behind them for the spies or pyros, choke them out in the side which a heavy, or take them on head first as soldier, demo, ect.
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>>336944061
>criticising a game when you have less than 10 hours gameplay and don't understand how to play
>wow these guys that have played since closed beta and could wreck my shit surely don't know anything, better just ignore their informed opinion

get good
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>>336939463
Uhm, Origins edition is 36 € on G2A like RIGHT NOW
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>>336943767
it's made worse by a Blizzard basically excused this problem by the 'trading sides' aspect, even though everyone leaves if they had a shit attack at temple of anubis.

course Anubis would be nice if that damn archway wasn't fickle as fuck about whose 'allowed' to go over it. I swear i have never gotten D.Va able to fly over the wall, and only got Pharah over it twice by boosting then literally holding hover for my entire. I mean i expect Widowmaker can because she literally has a grapple hook, but it still seems annoying and stupidly fickle.
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>>336943951
I can read Japanese and I was hoping that setting the text into jp would change that eject emergency text that comes up when you jump out of the mech but it didn't. She never speaks korean in the jp version either but either way I'm well aware of the hypocrisy. I actually like the way the game "feels" in Japanese more, dunno it's hard to explain.
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>>336944135
You're very clearly lying.

I'll give you a hint since you can't figure them out youself.

Look at the edges of evey map, veeery carefully.
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>>336943845
>in tf2 everyone can take the same route
But you know that isn't true if you've played the game for more than a few hours. An example being the roof on the bridge in 2fort. Another would be jumping up to the second floor in CP_Well at the center point.
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>>336940813
Honestly I'm upset I even accidently started a match as Tracer

Who can beat 12.2k heals?
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>>336944278
Of course it won't change, stupid weebposter, it's part of the game code.
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>>336943979
My point is that even with all these class mobilities you should still be able to go to these places with any character. A winston or a bastion cannot get onto the rooftops that a reaper, genji, or widowmaker can. Mobility shouldn't cost the fact that only some people can go to these areas. The maps are very unbalanced how ever, in team fortress 2 they are spread to give both advantages to attackers and defenders. But in overwatch it's either the payload focus' defenders or attackers, no middle grounds. In a game like this maps need to be balanced or its extremely infuriating to have a reaper press Q and lose the point due to having to walk all the way back. Torb and bastion being, "broken" are a direct result of the map not the actual character which is what people fail to realize.
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>>336940813
Fuck, I thought I could keep the progress
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>>336944423
You are the real MVP, playing support all the time. People like you are too good for this world. I don't play support because I'm too greedy for kills and glory.
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>>336944337
Some do some don't. Temple of anubis for example has just that one terrible arch choke from the start and very few characters can bypass it naturally
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>>336943532
The armor on his forearm moves out of the way to mimic the same animation but it doesn't make sense since the shuriken magically disappear by the time it get to the wrist.
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>>336940813
I honestly hate playing Symmetra, but she can be so clutch to have on Numbani.

Mei is love and Junkrat is satisfying to play.
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>>336944685
given the seeming lack of banter/unique domination/domainad vo lines, i'm honestly more surprised the costume even has the armor move
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>>336940813
I can't aim for shit, that is why I pretty much always play hammer man and mecha girl.
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>>336944447
Uhh you mean it's part of the game's graphics? I thought maybe they'd have a replacement I didn't check any other language.
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Whatchu guys playing while waiting for release?

Hearthstone really creams my corn with its RNG and I refuse to pay money for packs.
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>>336944504
What the bloody hell are you on about?

"You should be able to go to these places as any character"

No, you shouldn't, because if every class is equally mobile some classes become broken. Why should tracer be able to wall climb behind a team? There are so many alt routes that are designed for other characters to break through in order to beat stalemates and push past chokes.

Overwatch isn't TF2. Classes have mobility advantages that make them viable and better than other classes. There are so many things affecting other people's mobility and ways of getting away from people that your criticism is completely redundant.

>Question: Reaper uses Q, how do I survive?
>Answer: Reinhardt Charge, Reinhardt Shield, Mei Wall, Genji Reflect, D.Va Defense Matrix, Lucio Push, Reaper Shift, Tracer E, Tracer jump, Roadhog Hook...the list goes on.

In almost every game the pendulum swings, attackers favour, middle ground, defender's favour. The maps are pretty well balanced but you haven't played enough to understand them so you drop this simple ass analysis.

There are so many stupid maps in TF2 and comparing them to Overwatch's maps is laughable.
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>>336944714
I'm so fucking bored most of the time as Symmetra. shield everyone, nothing to do with them until one dies, drop 3 turrets, wait till you have three more, drop those where you want, eventually build a telport, wait/shoot charged shoots at people if you can;t risk getting close

Hoenstly part of me would rather just switch off of her after the TP is built,
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>>336940813

Where my Mei bros at?
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>>336944408
Actually, soldier, demoman, medic, sniper (if he jumps right), scout, and engineer can all get ontop of the bridge on 2fort. Only pyro, spy, and heavy cannot.

This is better when compared to the 4 out of 21 characters who can get to an area in overwatch
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>>336945130
Have you tried holding down right mouse button with her? It deals great damage and goes through Ryanhardts shield
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>>336944924
The devs made it to be in Korean, faget. The text language setting only applies to text (as its name suggests), not actual ingame stuff.
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>>336944423
>20 hours of one character
>It's a support

Well cucked my friend
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>>336945130
Her problem is that as a hero she is so inactive. The most you can ever contribute to big fights is just spamming right mouse and maybe going balls deep and keeping a laser on somebody. She is important on a team but so boring. She is the most in need of a redesign at the moment.
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>>336945216
and sometimes it's even weird about which of those 4 can do it. that entrance point of temple of anubis attacking wise i only get on the roof of the arch as Pharah by wasting all my fuel after boosting, have never gotten D.va able to fly high enough either. I assume Widow can because of her hook, not sure if Junkrat can.
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>>336940813
had some really great games the first 8 hours but after that I've just gotten so much worse
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>>336945171

Hi! Hiya!
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>>336945116
Which maps in tf2 are dumb? I'm not that guy, but I find myself disliking OW's maps a lot. Even if not for advantages for certain classes/balancing issues, there a lot of unintuitive design choices that went into these maps.
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>>336945291
yeah thats the charge shot, I use that more than her left click unless i'm near people/turrets or have stumbled on someone unaware. it jsut annoys me because she has so litlte to 'do' most of the time after you pressed e on everyone once and dropped the turrets.
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>>336944235
Where is the trap here ?
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>>336945734
2Fort, Dustbowl, Gravepit and Egypt to name a few
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>>336945405
She needs to be fused with Torb or bastion to make an actual character thats not idiot one dimensional.


or at the very least abandon her left mouse stacking close range attack let her hold LM on people to overcharge a shield on them and let her be a more hard support.
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You're all garbage, i guess this game is for filthy casuals.
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>>336946404
Lol ok Limeon.
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Lrn 2 play.
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>>336945734
Not that guy you're asking, but holy shit.

CP_Dustbowl is horrible, CP_Steel's initial control points are garbage, after you capture one of them the map becomes a decent one, Hoodoo is absolutely horrible as well. There's quite a damn number of just really terrible Official maps that allow for some REALLY cheap and piss-easy to execute tactics, which demand the offensive team to have 1-3 Ubers just to break through, because of sentries and Soldiers/Demos watching the VERY tiny chokepoints. Very few of the actual Official maps are really good, it took them a while to get an array of good maps built up. Even then, play TF2 today and you'll still play on these shitty maps a lot of times.
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I love tf2 and play it everyday but using 2fort as exemple of good map design is fucking stupid
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>>336941074
Literally *teleports behind you*
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Shit game, stop shilling
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>>336946315

I don't understand how she is considered Support and not Defensive. She builds turrets and shields people instead of healing. That's what Torbjorn does and he is defensive. I think she needs a healing ability because a support who can't heal cripples your team playing against a fucking Lucio or Mercy. I guess the teleport is what officially sets her as support, but I feel like having her on your team is not enough to justify going without an actual healer.
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>>336941195
I'm getting splatoon thread flashbacks
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>>336946681
> le duatbowl is shit meme
it's been almost 10 years stop crying about it
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i didn't get anything good from the boxes so i don't give a shit.
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Reppin' my man here.
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Genji looks both cool and fun as fuck, but I know he's the exact opposite of my playstyle. A shame, but what can you do?
Zenyatta's a lot of fun, but he absolutely needs a good team to be of any real use.
D. Va's the best, she so fun to use and she's useful on almost any team. I love her DPS/Tank hybrid playstyle.
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>>336947069
Don't be so racist, not all black people talk like that
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>>336946867
Absolutely agree with you. She is fundamentally a human teleport and an ambusher who makes flanking routes more dangerous for squishy flankers like Genji. She is much more defence than support.
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>>336941249
>I made a completely optional life choice and now I want everyone to cater to it
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>on attack
>seems like my entire team thinks we're on defense

Anyone else get this?
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>>336947069
>TFW dropping 600 pounds of raw science on the twitchy widow who was soloing your team
>TFW dropping to 50 then growing an entire two Winstonian's worth of health pool
>TFW 300ing the enemy tank and healer

Winston is fun.
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>>336946867
because i honestly expect she's nothing more than half the stuff they wanted to give Torb but they worried would make him to 'complex' to play,

her weapon is just god awful for her playstyle, she really would be better if you dropped the LM aspect of it, and replaced it with a a mercy esque 'hold to overcharge some you shielded earlier.
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>>336947258
>On attack
>Everyone rushes into fights as soon as they get there instead of grouping up

3/4 matches, guaranteed.
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>>336947258
Yeah, one of the biggest problems with newer players is that they don't have the balls to push. They just want to sit and duel and hope they kill enough people to make a push. You have to encourage them to get in there by either going on mic or playing a flanker and getting shit done.
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I've gotten vastly better during the OB and even found a new favorite character. Never liked him much during the stress tests but now I'm dropping motherfuckers left and right.

Outside of Zen's Ra skin I haven't found a single good skin in 25 levels so I won't mind the progress wipe at all. I'm still playing because I'm having fun and getting better.

Going from 3-man queues to solo mode is night and day. Fighting organized teams with my shitter friends and 3 useless fucks vs feeling like I'm controlling the match singlehandedly. Getting gold medals in every fucking category as this 150 hp son of a bitch.
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>>336947179
i'm pretty sure the teleport stays if you class swap, so the question is almost 'why am i still Symmetra after i've built the tp?"
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>>336947258
>on defense
>everyone camps spawn doors and gets wiped

Every time
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>>336943851
>posts webm to support point that doesn't actually support point
>gets mad when someone calls him out on it
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>>336938556

>Cares about cosmetic drops that are the only thing that fleshes the game out remotely and wants to keep ones he got in the beta thus having less content in the actual game new when he gets it.

End yourself
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>>336946970
Fuck you, I have Nam-like flashbacks of that shit. It's horrifying.
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Why did they call it "overwatch" anyway?
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>>336947916
cus you better watch over your shoulder kid
*uneethes katananatanta*
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>>336947992
>*teleports behind you*
>DIE DIE DIE!
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>>336944423
I'm a traitor
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>it's a "reinhardt shields a turret bastion in the corner of the cap point" episode
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>>336948076
*wilson jumps in to defend*
hello there enjoying the exzhibit????
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>>336938890

Really you guys? You stopped playing because cosmetics and shit are getting reset?

Wow...
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GG WP
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Why the fuck does 76 always do so much damage? I swear if I get in his sight as a non-tank, I'm instantly dead.
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>>336940075

Entitlement
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>>336948297
I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS
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>>336948297
Because he doesn't have any defense capabilities and his sprint is a mediocre escape against decent players. If he wouldn't put out good damage, he'd be shit.
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>>336943631

Needs a nerf worse than any other character
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>>336948162
Sounds like an episode of LOGH to me.
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>336948420
>We're all soldiers now.
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>>336947916

>In modern warfare, overwatch is a force protection tactic: the state of one small unit or military vehicle supporting another unit, while they are executing fire and movement tactics.
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Every game I get some incompetent shitbird bastion who never gets any kills and never switches heroes.

Competitive can't come soon enough.
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>>336948420

Even without his ult I may as well just take my hands off the keyboard if I see him.
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>>336947258

>hanzo who thinks he's playing COD and is desperately trying to preserve his k/d ratio
>contributes jack shit the entire time

every

fucking

game
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>>336947258
Often. I'd rather have screeching nasal try-hards in competitive rather than clueless morons who care about their k/d more than they care about winning.
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>>336942235

If you really think Bastion is overpowered, try playing him for a while. You'll realize he has a lot of weaknesses and your heal is not much compared to the damage that most can put out.
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>>336948162

Every fucking game for me the last few hours.
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>>336941249
I didn't even realize that there was a -75% xp gain for leaving games. I've left so many games because half my team was afk or because I was on a team with multiple players < lvl 5 against lvl 30+. I guess that explains why I have like 60 wins, but I'm only level 15. How long does the effect last?
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Who else /terriblewithmelee/ here?

I seem to do best from afar.
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>>336938556
Dreaming of all the tears I'll make when I rip up all the noobs on release day. I bet I could even get Potg with genji and widowmaker.
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>>336949953
I can't figure out where to map it, V is a terrible key for melee.
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>>336950292

It also defaults to M4.
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So are loot boxes going to be earned solely through leveling up or will they have a chance to drop after each match?

Or are they just going to go full jew and add microtransactoins
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>>336942112
my enlightened nigga
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>>336950485

They shower you with boxes. Nuff said.
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>tfw 22 kill streak with best girl
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>>336950292
>>336950457
Wait all characters actually have a melee attack? I was referring to pure melee ones tbqh.

The more you know.
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>>336943094
t. Nostcuck
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>>336950457
>Having a meme mouse
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>Mfw all the Japanese voices are better than the English
>My dick when Widow actually says Ara ara~
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>He doesn't use Mercy when playing healer

What does the HUE do better exactly? Mercy has better heals and dmg buffs. He makes you run faster I guess? ( Sym does a fucking teleport )
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>$40
>Have to unlock skins and sprays.

Pretty stupid.
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>>336950602
WHO THOUGHT MEI WAS A GOOD IDEA

IT'S FUN TO PLAY HER BUT PLAYING AGAINST HER IS LIKE BEING STRUNG UP BY YOUR FUCKING FORESKIN UNTIL GRAVITY GIVES YOU A BOTCHED CIRCUMCISION

YOU JUST STAND STILL AND WATCH HER CAREFULLY LINE UP A HEADSHOT ON YOU
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>>336950808
Hue is better during KOTH since he can give an area of effect heal which is really good during that mode.

>>336950548
>His zen balls aren't additional emojis
Wasted potential.
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>>336950808
He's good for teams where you are lacking damage or control points where you can knock someone the fuck off a cliff.
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>>336950597

Once you hit the higher levels, you earn loot boxes at a much smaller rate. I imagine once the game is out and in a month when everyone is 50 and getting one loot box every 20 games that they will have to add a random loot drop system. I'm level 30 in the beta and it takes 10+ games to level up now.
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>>336951229
At level 100 you can "prestige" and reset the amount of XP it takes to level up.
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>>336950808
>mercy being anything but shit
>slow as fuck healer that gets roadhogged or bastioned easy as fuck
>worthless ultimate that takes 6 seconds to rez people making both you and them an easy target
>not using lucio who does the same amount of healing as blackedkraut but in an aoe
>increases speed so that tank chars can fuck peoples shit up
>ult gives like 400 hp to everyone around him basically giving you a good 15-30 seconds on the objective as no one can remove you with that much hp besides a good lmb to win bastion
>yfw mercy is literally the kritzkrieg of healers
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>>336950808
Lucio is better for offense, its easier to stay safe while still keeping up with the healing and his ult is easier to work with. Rarely will Mercy be the last one alive to rez the whole team.

Also the speed boost is really good. The enemies will have loads more trouble hitting you.
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>paper-rock-scissors balance in A FUCKING FPS.
This is a retarded concept and you enablers should be ashamed.
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>>336948482
>in modern warfare

Wow, I didn't think OW borrowed that heavily from COD
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>>336950924

Play Pharah

wow that was hard
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>>336950924
>be me
>be roadhog
>be see mei
>be meathook and 1 shot her with lmb
W O W
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>>336950759
If you play in English she speaks French (with a sexy voice too). Shame you're a dumb weeb though.
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>>336938556
viral
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This game will fill the void MNC and SMNC left in my heart.
CHICKEYYYYYYYYYYY CHICKEY CANTOR
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>>336950808
>Doesn't even mention best boy Zen
>Healing, debuffing, and dealing damage all at the same time.
>Amazing Ult that can completely turn the tides of a match
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>>336950808
Mercy is the quintessential "healslut" character. Lucio is more fun though because he got swag and can go fast while blasting some hot tunes.
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>>336951671
>zen
>even worth mentioning
easily the worst healer in the game, half of you faggots think your a dps and ruin the team you are on.
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>>336942421
>he hasn't even played 14 of the heroes
what the fuck are you doing
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>>336938890
same, plus I got other stuff to do so I'll feel kinda stupid working towards stuff that will be wiped in a few days anyway.
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>>336951750
>Some people play this character wrong
>Therefore the character is bad
Come on, now.
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>>336951831

I primarily play support, it's what I do best. In TF2 I have 1000 hours in medic alone.
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>>336943631
Kill yourself
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>>336951831
to be fair 10 of the heroes are shit and not even worth playing including two of the ones he has played. agent 87 fags fucking kill yourselves, you are of no credit to any team ever.
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It doesn't even matter. After it actually releases, everyone who was interested in it will be bored, because they've been playing thr beta.
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>>336944423
>20 hours
>worst support
inb4 baby complains "B-BUT SHE CAN REZ PEOPLE!!!!!!"
single target heals are not effective
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>>336951928
>some people
literally every single zen, i have played with. I either have to go lucio if he is on my team because he is a shit healing class or we fucking roll the other team because they have this shit psudodps healer
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>>336942201

but that could be anyone doing good teamwork, that's obnoxious yeah but you could get a junkrat genji and a reinhart of your own to counter that
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Morrison is my waifu
I bought the game for him
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>>336951671
If I fucking whisper in the same remote direction as Zenyatta he dies. He's a 150 hp support, where 100 of that 150 hp is shields. Fuck off
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Game is fun, but there's no fucking way I'm paying full price for it when there's only like 2 game modes. There's a good amount of maps for them sure, but it's either a payload escort or a king of the hill thing. They've got the typical Blizzard polish on it, it *looks* awesome, and most importantly it's fun.

But 2 game modes just ain't gonna cut it for a genre that's been around since Quake from a company that's been doing PvP shit for like 16 years.
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will this be shilled as much as borderlands?
It's got a strong start already.
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>just played my first game a few hours ago, only level 8
>in 90% of the games, my whole team has 12 y/o brazilian sniper on TF2 levels of awareness and just mindlessly walk into the high rank bastion or widow fire
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>>336952095
>soldier 76 main
i hope i never have to play with you. out of all the heroes that actually do something conducive to winning a game, you pick the least useful one.
>inb4 m-muh kills help the team
>yfw your average is being beaten by someone who mains tank
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>>336938556
What the fuck is the point of logging into Battle.net and using it as a platform to launch all of Bliz's stupid games if I have to log in with the EXACT SAME credentials when I launch the faggot game?
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>>336938726

I hate how everyone says "You shouldn't have played the beta!" when someone mentions progress and drops being reset. I was in the Heroes of the Storm beta, and these things weren't reset. Resets happen, and it sucks, but stop acting like it is guaranteed to happen, because it isn't.
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>>336940813
k
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>>336944423
me
>>336952235
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>>336952497
I never have to log in when playing the game.
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>>336952670
Whats ora/e in real american time?
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>>336952670
>gookfu main
you are just as worthless as 76 mains. waifu fags need to leave my team based games.
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>>336952564
If you bothered do an actual google search it's already confirmed
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>>336952268
From the looks of things people are going to play for abit and it will be forgotten.
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>>336952349
>not understanding that dps actually does matter when you have to be attacking
you might as well just kill yourself if you're really trying to cause butthurtery in this thread

And thats right
I said butthurtery
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What does this crosshair bloom thing on the options menu mean?
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