>assload of health
>can heal from 1 to 300 in mere seconds
>insanely OP turret that sets up in a quarter of a second
>turret has insane damage, range, fire rate, ammo capacity, and reload speed and can mow enemies down in half a second before they even see you
Literally the only viable character in the game.
>>336919950
>has to sit still to shoot
>half the roster counters him
>>336920135
/thread
stop this bait
>>336920135
This
You can easily pick off a Bastion with Hanzo or Widowmaker. Hell even Mcree can fuck him up easily
>>336920135
>>half the roster counters him
LMAO
He literally only has two soft counters and no hard counters
>>336920454
This is an FPS. The counter is being better at the game.
>>336920515
This is a class based FPS, a strong gun kills a weak gun and some characters don't even have guns
>>336919950
>mfw anyone playing him gets play of the day
>it's just a turret sitting
>shoots 2 people
>POTG
>get 6 kills in a row all head shots as widowmaker
>people upvote the mercy for doing her job.
The community is more SJW than I thought. The person playing mercy doesn't want to I hope you guys know that, the player basically takes one for the team and that's why they get up voted.
>>336920667
Mercy is useless you stupid fuck so don't expect any thanks when your role is useless and everyone hates you.
>>336920662
It is a balanced game. There are no weak guns. Just guns that work differently.
>>336920818
I don't play mercy you fucking moron. You didn't read my post and if you did, you lack comprehension skills. I was just bitching about people up voting every mercy you see for healing 4,000 damage.
>>336920515
not in overwatch it isnt
>>336920992
widowmaker is even more useless. Quit being a camping pussy and play the game. Widowmaker is literally Bastion with a fraction the firepower and health
>>336920974
>blizzard game
>balanced
>>336920454
>no hard counter
Genji reflect + Dash = gg
git gud if you can't do it
>>336920135
His mobile gun is actually one of the better ones.
>>336921194
>widowmaker is even more useless
>>336921178
You're right. Overwatch is somehow completley different from every team based shooter that came before it.
Oh wait
>>336921450
I'd like to see you kill Winston as Genji.
I guarantee my life, my soul and all of my property and riches that I would be able to 100:0 you.
>>336921256
>resorting to memes instead of using actual arguments
ok
>>336920974
>It is a balanced game
>>336920818
>Mercy is useless
>Implying the main healer character of the game is useless
>Implying healing is useless
Go on, son, go play without any healing support
>>336921684
>waste a hero slot for a hero that does nothing but standing still making people die in 2 seconds instead of 1
other supports at least do something with their time instead of crippling their team
>>336921684
>Go on, son, go play without any healing support
Most of the time it's better to have anyone else than a mercy. If you want a healer, go lucio. Mercy is just bad.
>>336921684
if the enemy team has lucio and you don't, you lose.
>>336921684
the nigger is so much better at healing. Mercy has to be glued to some other character, Lucio heals everyone at the same time as well as does damage. And he has the speed buff which helps him and potential others get back into the fray faster should they die. Mercy is fucking awful.
>>336920667
>dont get potg
>wahhh the sjws are taking my video games
>Every game has a dedicated widowmaker
>Every game will usually have the same roster of 'easy-pick' heroes
This game is really starting to get boring.
>>336921684
>main healer character
That's the skating nig nog though.
>>336919950
pic.related, it's you.
>>336921684
Lucio provides much more utility and a far better Ult.
>>336919950
Ye, but it's fucking fun to play as.
>>336921450
it's different from a lot of them since in plenty of games you have two equal sides fighting to see who has more skill... in games with counter picks it's a lot different. just picking the right class gives you an advantage that makes it easier to win. that's very different from two equal people competing to see who has better tactics/aim.
>>336921194
>widowmaker
>useless
Confirmed McCree player
>>336922150
>>336922019
>>336922310
I think you were with a bad Mercy then, I can perfectly handle 5 people to heal and it allows my team to keep a point.
Just give me a hero with good movespeed/move skill and I can run around everyone to heal their asses.
>>336919950
>Attack mains are Genji / Pharah
I love enemy Bastions. I want to play against more of them so my stats go up.
The only time Bastion is hard to deal with is when he's on a payload with Reinhardt and Mercy.
>>336922541
He's fun to play as because he can output 2-3x the amount of damage as any of the attack classes. He's an unbalanced mess.
>it's hääää nyyyyyyyyyyn
>unskilled kills occur
>>336921684
Mercy is by far the the most useless chars in the game. Bitch needs a redesign.
>>336920454
Anyone smart enough will flank him and fart on his weakspot when he is camping in turret mode.
>>336919950
You forgot
>high damage output makes sure he has his ultra every 80 seconds or less.
>DOESN'T TAKE FUCKING DAMAGE FROM HISBOWN ROCKETS IN ULTRA FORM
why is this allowed while Egyptian soldier has to kill herself every time she uses he ultra unless she is 9 feet away from any surface?
Other than that, just nerf his weapon spread and give some actual falloff damage and he'll be fine.
>>336919950
Needs to lower his HP when he is in turret mode. Or maybe make it two separate HPs, one for turret and one for his normal mode and then make it work similarly to Reinhardt's shield except he can only repair it with healsluts and his own repair ability.
>>336922702
Even the top players have said mercy is useless. If you want a healer pick lucio.
>>336921527
Literally only thing Genji can do is run like hell. Maybe, just maybe kill Winston with dodging and ult but Winston needs to be a complete retard for this to happen.
>it's a "bastion gets potg by holding down m1" episode
>>336923285
Yeah why not, like, counter him? Are people really this dense? Has this become the average skill level? People "maining" chars in a game based around countering strategies?
>>336920667
I play Mercy often by choice. And when I'm not playing Mercy I will commend them if, and only if, their healing won us the game. Being able to outlast the other teams damage while dealing your own and managing the objective is pretty fucking important. Mercy helps make that easier.
>>336923171
That's why I said what I said. Genji loses 100% of the time vs Winston even if the Genji is a superhuman.
>>336919950
Roadhog chain and faceful of nails from gun.
Bye.
I don't think that he's OP. I think that all these dumb chokepoints are OP, especially when most people are going to be pubbing it.
I need to friend a good amount of good people soon after release or this games gonna be too frustrating to play.
>>336919950
This picture just makes me depressed that Front Mission got so shitty after 3.
>>336919950
>Gets hooked by hog from other side of the map
>Dies instantly
>>336923558
The maining meme will hopefully end once the paywall is up. Right now people pick a hero and literally never change the whole game, it's frustrating as fuck.
>mfw I reflect a widowmaker and head shot her as Genji
holy fuck I love this character
>>336923665
front mission 4 & 5 were amazing
>>336924310
I'd accept 5 as being a matter of taste but 4 was unquestionably ass.
>>336921275
>if you can't do it
More like if the Bastion has a fucking brain and stops shooting as soon as you reflect, you retard.
>>336923924
no it's not. I play the game to have fun and I have fun with playing specific characters. I've tried most of them and none of them come close to being as fun as Tracer. There's literally no reason I'll ever have to play anyone else except Tracer.
>>336922902
And anyone smart enough will just turn around and kill you instantly anyway.
>>336921450
It is.
Overwatch is the FPS with the hardest counters I have ever seen in an FPS. It is closer to a MOBA than an FPS in that aspect
>le you can counter him!
This game is not a 1v1 deathmatch in final destination you filthy niggers. Most Bastions are well hidden and protected by their team.
If you think that Bastion is overpowered or needs nerfing in any capacity then you are a shitter that needs to git gud.
>Play Lucio on attack or koth
>nobody but the tank (if there even is one) bothers to stand near me
>nothing but "I NEED A HEALER" in chat
>>336923924
>The maining meme will hopefully end once the paywall is up.
nah
I'm gonna tell you right now the only reason I'm still playing the beta is because of how much I like Lucio, both from gameplay and design. Even if I'm a total shitter I'm not gonna drop his ass unless we either already have at least one other guy going support (which never seems to happen) or we really, really desperately need someone on offense or tank duty.
>>336925381
that said this shit drives me up a wall. I try to stay near the action and my team at the same time but it's infuriating to be the only player even remotely near the point while everyone else is just running off doing their own thing.
>>336919950
I am going to tell my team to all go bastion on defense
That should be fun
>>336923029
>Implying I will listen to pseudo-top players from a 3 days old game.
Get it straight, my niggas, ain't no healer like mercy, she's the best.
OFFICIAL FUN AND GOOD LIST
>Genji
>Junkrat
>Lucio
>Hanzo/Widow if you can actually aim well
>Reinhardt
>Dva
>>336925972
>Implying roadhog isn't one of the funniest heroes in the game
Bastion's most effective counters:
Genji - becomes a parry mindgame, you have to spend time that could be spent flanking anyone else to flank behind him, then get a CHANCE at killing him by guessing if he will keep shooting when you parry, not based on who is better at the game, but based on who guesses correctly.
Symmetra - made useless by Mercy, made useless by elevators in a few maps.
Widowmaker, Hanzo - made useless by Mercy, easily counterflanked
You don't just have to counterpick, you have to team counterpick.
Not because they're really good with Bastion, or because they have really clever positioning, not because of anything other than: they are bastion and their mouse works.
No, that's dumb, Blizzard grossly underestimate, and you retards deny just how easy it is for Bastion to react to a hit indicator, turn around and kill flankers instantly, flanking should be his counter but it isn't, it's pathetic.
>>336919950
>Reinhardt/Bastion combo in escort
>Turret mode while riding on payload with Reinhardt providing shield
>Everyone gets super mad
>Mercy jumps in
>Enemy team outright gives up
Non combofags must l2p
>>336926083
was gonna put him on here but I felt like someone was gonna >implying roadhog is good
>be a turret
>stationary
>die
so OP
>>336926161
The only combo that beats that is multi ulting.
>>336926161
Didn't bastion also have a barrier shield during closed beta?
Bastion isn't broken, he's just anti-fun and kills all the enjoyment of the game whenever one shows up
>>336925657
There is basically no circumstance in which having Lucio around is not helpful though.
>>336926161
>be bastion on escorts
>turret on the cart while banking ult
>suddenly the enemy has halted us
>go tank and just clear them with no effort
>potg
I just picked him because he looked cool, and his turret mode seemed too strong for someone who could aim decently average.
>>336926432
yes
he still wasn't a problem except for new people/scrubs. He's a design nightmare because he stomps bad players but is useless at higher levels
>>336923661
Underrated post.
What's fucking wrong with this game is it's a series of chokepoints with no alternate routes like that first gateway in the Egyptian level, so on many levels it's way too easy for the defending team to just turtle around a single entrance which is exactly what bastion excels at.
>>336925972
You forgot angry russian lesbian, she's top tier fun.
>payload map
>two bastions and two reinhardts on the payload with the other two poking anyone who tries to deal with it
Just fuck my game balance up senpai
>be Bastion
>Defending point 2 on the Russian map
>setup on the platforms that cycle around the air
>get potg while flying through the air
>widowmaker standing in the open tries to shoot me
>delete her
>somebody complains Bastion is OP
>>336926106
Tracer can single-handedly make Bastion not worth playing.
>>336927181
>Turn around
>M1
>Dead
>>336927303
>Charge at an unoccupied Bastion alone without having a pulse bomb ready
>Die
No shit
Bastion is not the problem, you are.
Don't mind me I'm just the worst tank in the game.
>>336927648
the only true tank is Reinhardt, everyone else is a weird off tank
>>336927494
>Lol why would you not save up your ult just to counter this one character?
Are you seeing the problem yet?
There are very VERY few things in this game that demand an ult to counter, Bastion is one of them, and it is the only one out of them that requires 0 effort.
>>336927494
>l-look guys i can c-counter bastion every 2 minutes
>>336927648
This is sarcasm? Winston is the worst tank.
Zarya doesn't die and can 1v1 most heroes while saving teamates and getting stronger with every amount of damage blocked. Her ult is also godlike.
Bastion wouldn't be too bad if Reinhardt+Bastion combos didnt exist
>>336926106
>Hanzo
that faggot can one shot tank with his spread arrows. and he doesnt even need to aim it for the most part.
Just shoot it in front of tank's feet
>>336927494
Oh great, I get to use up my valuable ult that takes minutes to charge and is one of the best anti-tank tools in the game just to get one of possibly multiple Bastions off the map for as little as 10 seconds at the end of a payload game.
So fucking good
>>336927648
Roadhog is the worst tank. He lacks the pushing and protective power that Reinhardt and Zarya have, and can't harass or force squishies out of position as well as Winston or D.Va. He's only really good for pickoffs against uncoordinated and/or out of position players and occasionally forcing people off of objectives with his ultimate. Also his massive hitbox with a complete lack of damage mitigation makes him a battery for the enemy team. They don't need to kill him when they're building ult charges to kill off the rest of his team. I love Roadhog though and he has his place. Every character is solid worth using honestly.
>>336927852
Tracer's ult recharge rate is high and works best at forcing people away from tanks or stationary targets so....you're pretty much using it as intended by sticking the Bastion. You also missed my point entirely. Bastion can't fight multiple targets well unless they conga line into him. Take advantage of that.
>>336922310
Lucio does about a quarter of the healing mercy does in an area.
Even when amped he does less. He needs at least 3 people to heal for it to be worth it.
All that and he's still far less mobile individually than a mercy. All he's really got is some minor damage to go along with his minor healing.
Are we still pretending that his transformation back from Turret form isnt instant?
That he can constantly reposition and avoid any ultimates with ease.
Or that Simply by having a reinhardt on your team all his flaws are negated.
OR that he can turn around instantly, and his weakpoint is actually in a more convenient location for him than most hero's headshot hitboxes,
Seriously all these people aurging like he isnt op acts like the Bastion player is a fucking retard.
Johnny Five skin for Bastion when?
The only people who defend Bastion are Bastion mains
Search your heart, you know it to be true
>>336925972
genji is super bad unless there's a braindead bastion on the enemy team that will just hold M1 on you
junkrat is too strong with his infinite ammo and traps
lucio is braindead easy to play and is too strong of a support
reinhardt is mandatory for every single game and that's terrible
dva is horrible, her damage is nonexistent and only bads will ever get killed by her ult or someone you surprise completely
>>336922530
>a far better ult.
Yeah in a game where half of the ults are "do a shit ton of damage while basically suiciding" a character that can revive people is useless.
Meanwhile lucio gives 6s of tankyness to his team. Which is nice but not nearly as useful as consistently pulling off better trades in team fights.
>>336920454
>Genji E in front of him because most people who play Bastion are retarded
>Widow harasses him out of turret
>Hanzo harasses him out of turret
>Reinhardt allows entire team to shoot him
>Roadhog pull fucks him
>Tracer ult
>Reaper teleprompts behind him and shows him his red runes and he gets scared
>Pharah auto attack forces him to move or die in 2-3 hits
>A good Soldier 76 can beat him with his AoE heal and coverI exclusively play him when I'm on defense because 90% of the time no one bothers to do any of this and I steal PotG :^)
>>336928313
>Tracer's ult recharge rate is high
And respawn timer is even faster, you're using an ult to get one character off the map for a few fucking seconds, just to make an attempt at a push against the rest of the team, without an ult all of your options are garbage, in what game should that be fucking okay? Let alone for a character that requires no effort to play.
I like Winston
>>336928614
and good players
and the game developers
You open beta scrubs act like people haven't been playing for almost half a year. Bitching about bastion only happens when they let in a bunch of new people and dies down a week later
>roadhog hooks me
>live long enough to stick my bomb on him and deja vu out of there
>kill 3 people in the blast
>potg is some turret kill
>>336928716
>Respawn timer is even faster
Yeah let's ignore the time taken to return to battle, valuable time that can be used to pressure the objective further if you actually bother to communicate with your team that HEY I KILLED THEIR BASTION LET'S DO THINGS.
>>336928317
If anyone is retarded it's you. People play Bastion because people like you refuse to actually try and play around it. Use your brain for two minutes and take advantage of the options given to you.
>>336919950
So /v/ is shit at video games as usual?
>>336921684
Yeah I don't get this either, I've primarily played Mercy and I feel like I contribute a lot to the team, maybe it's just because I'm generally playing with a friend who I can sort of semi-pocket.
>>336929024
POTG is decided horribly sometimes
>get overtime cap as reaper after ulting onto the cap and wiping 4/6 players
>potg goes to rat for getting a random double kill with his ult
I need this as a Junkrat skin now
>>336925789
shitters gonna shit
>>336928626
None of the ults require you to suicide unless you're a shitter.
Pharah's rockets are a little too fast and damaging. And why the hell is Bastion's ultimate him turning into a tank? Isn't he a defensive character?
Is it possible to make a No Ultimate mode? Playing without Ulti spam could be fun.
>>336924694
>Implying all Bastion players aren't complete scrubs who shoot anything on sight
>>336928617
Man you should really try to know what you're talking about before saying so much silly shit.
the problem is not the class its the fact that the team can stack multiple of him. had one game where it was 2 bastions 2 reinharts and a trobjorn. that shit was unstoppable with heals
>>336929275
this guy is a wheel pain in my ass
This is how the game can be balanced for both teams.
>>336929414
>Pharah's rockets are a little too fast and damaging
nah
>>336929682
But the devs agree with me
>>336928906
>>336929628
>Bastion's op
Did anyone on your team pick hanzo, widow, mcree, or pharah to counter the bastions?
>Well no
I think I've found your problem.
>>336926432
>>336926896
Yes, but he also could only turn within a like 80-ish degree area in front of himself at that time, so the shield was useless against mobile people that easily flanked like Tracer and Reaper
>>336929826
They say her damage is very high right now, and her Ult is, its basically instant kill.
Rockets though? nah.
>>336929893
The other team would just use the same exact team as the other.
>>336929414
The game would be way better without ultis, but just taking them out and leaving the characters as is would really fuck up the balance. They just need to change the abilities so that more skill is involved. Shit like Soldier's auto-aim and Mcgree's 'press button to kill team' are fucking stupid. Hanzo's ability needs a bit more of a visual warning when it starts, so that if you're paying attention you can move, which would make him have to use it more strategically. The exploding wheel needs to be easier to kill. Zarya's thing just needs some kind of nerf.
ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Mp5gE0HSw
>>336930164
>The game would be way better without ultis
Go play TF2. Fuck off.
>>336928010
>Zarya doesn't die and can 1v1 most heroes
She really can't. Her damage is pitiful.
Even Symmetra holding down M1 beats her every single time. Source: I play Symmetra a lot
>>336924084
It's so satisfying to make plays with genji man
>playing on hollywood, attacking
>on the old west push, there's little resistance
>suddenly, a sneaky turret nigger plants himself on one of the beams above the push
>enemy widowmaker starts shootting everyone
>quickly get to bastion, deflect all of the bullets and destroy him
>dash to widowmaker and just spray her with shurikens
>ult just when the rest of their team starts attacking
>dash resets everywhere
>>336929463
nice retort
>>336930164
>Mcgree's 'press button to kill team' are fucking stupid
>step behind anything in the game, or don't be directly in front of him after the very, very obvious telegraph
>does nothing
w o w
so op pls nerf
>>336930301
You mean the better game? Gladly.
Leave it to Blizzard to make a nigger an effective and useful addition to any team.
>>336928675
You forgot Junkrat being able to bounce bombs to his location without ever being in the line of fire.
Granted it's not always possible, but it is possible more often than not.
The moment Bastion needs to de-turret he's fucked.
>>336930301
>>336930463
Why are you faggots so defensive over a casual meatgrinder fps? This is shit designed for children.
>>336930623
Probably because they paid 60$ for it.
>>336919950
Yeah hes defiantly the most annoying chracter to deal with for me
His tureent mode can kill you within like a split second
>>336930623
How is it defending the game?
I'm not going to buy it. Just calling that guy a shitter for not knowing how to counter mediocre abilities.
>>336919950
you forgot about his ultimate, propably best offensive ulti in a game
>>336930728
It's a hitscan instant kill that you don't have to aim which locks on to multiple enemies
Are you a fucking mongoloid?
>complaining about bastion
>roadhog has an insta-kill combo that requires no skill what so ever
>roadhog can also pull tracer out of blink or rewind
>mccree has an insta-kill combo that requires no skill, can bring down a full health winston with just one
![1400326004971[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dSyVzEM.jpg "1400326004971[1].jpg")
>want to try Zenyatta
>enemy team has a Winston
pure suffering
>>336930843
and?
>>336922019
>>336922310
>>336922439
>>336922530
y'all niggas need Zenyatta
>>336931081
Pretty good, but too squishy. Still provides less general utility than Lucio, but its kind of a toss up depending on opposition comp.
>>336931081
Mah nigga.
>healing with balls to the face
>debuffing tanky niggas with balls to the face
>killing anybody with balls to the face
>Shit nigga, you are made of fucking paper and can get killed by anybody
>>336931264
the nerf hit Zenyatta pretty hard, you used to be able to discord and healing orb then stay in cover while your team went in, then pop out to switch to people who needed healing or just other discord targets
with the orbs coming back if you don't have line of sight and his low hp its really difficult
>>336928617
>junkrat is too strong with his infinite ammo and traps
>junkrat is too strong with his infinite ammo
>too strong with his infinite ammo
>infinite ammo
>>336931034
Is this the only FPS you've ever played besides CoD or Battlefield? Do you think that's a normal thing?
>>336922863
8 hours with McREEEEE
Your high noon will usually kill one, two at most. It's a pretty shit ulti
If I kill your entire team, you were literally standing there with your backs to me and need to stop
>>336931594
not that guy, but honestly junkrat probably needs a minor nerf or two
traps should have a second before they go off if they don't already
his grenades should not explode on roll contact
>>336931439
>Shit nigga, you are made of fucking paper and can get killed by anybody
but by the time they kill you it's already too late
>>336931594
yes, that's right
having 6 rapid-firing grenades in a clip and reloading all 6 in half a second is too good
he also has infinite ammo like every other character in the game
>>336929384
At high level play, reaper, mcree, genji, and pharah all die as soon as their ults go off. Basically anyone who stands still in line of sight or has to get in close to do damage.
>play of the game
>someone jumps in the middle of the enemy team and presses q, they all die
>every time, every character
This is just pathetic, CoD is more competitive than this
>>336930843
>Hide behind cover, of which there is plenty of as the maps are littered with props and various side corridors and small rooms.
>Ultimate nullified
If a McCree kills more than one or two people with his ult he was either very well positioned or his enemies were sleeping at the wheel. Either way it's deserved.
>>336930949
>Playing Torb
>Pop Zenyatta with two left clicks from a mile away
I love that fucking rivet gun
>>336931081
needs to be buffed to 200 health
healer should not get oneshot by a Widowmaker bodyshot
>>336919950
>genji-reflect-no bastion
>>336931663
Do you think ressurrection, looking through walls or giant dragons that fly through terrain are standard? Ults are powerful, deal with it.
McCree's is easy to deal with.
>>336931843
hey, that's not true! Bastion gets potg all the time without doing that! He just sits in a corner and holds down the fire button usually.
>>336931786
yeah I can definitely agree the traps should take longer to recharge, or at least the bear trap shouldn't last as long, or do as much damage as it does
>all the obvious Bastion mains in this thread
No, you aren't good at the game because you get potg every match as bastion.
You're a shitter who can only succeed as you play as the most broken character in the game. Try playing another character for once and watch how everyone mops the floor with you since you aren't on EZ mode anymore.
UNDERSTAND
UNDERSTAND
UNDERSTAND
>>336919950
>Playing as Tech Support Lady
>Enemy Bastion set up on top of the payload
>I run up the alternate pathway to it while the 3 genji's on my team spam E so they can make an epic webm for reddit/4chan
>Hit left click and run directly underneath him so he cant shoot at me
>He dies after 3 seconds of my weak as shit cisco telepresence beam
"Assload of health"
>>336932051
>Being unable to counter Bastion
see
>>336928906
>Everyone assuming that a Baston will just fucking fire if they see a Genji coming at them
>Assuming that a baston won't be protected by a Reinhardt
>Assuming that a baston will just be out in the fucking open by themselves without any heal/tanking
This isn't the start the beta anymore and this fucker needs to be nerfed especially regarding his Damage and Range
>>336931995
>step into trap
>see Bastion in the distance coming out of a doorway
>he spots me after a second
>goes into turret mode
>get mowed down the instant I'm free from the trap
3 seconds feel like forever when you see your own death coming but it's my fault for stepping in it in the first place
>>336932068
GIVE YASELF TO THE RHYTHM
>>336932215
there's really no way around him if he sets up in a corner with no way to get behind him
he shouldn't have perfect accuracy at every range, that's too much
>>336919950
Every match ever:
Reinhardt, Mercy, widowmaker, Tracer, Bastion, symmetra/torj
>>336931932
>it's not bad game design, it's just strong
The problem is that nothing counter-balancing the strength of it, it's just a brainless 'press this button to win' move
Whether you can get behind something to avoid mcgree's ult doesn't change how fucking ridiculous and poorly designed it is.
The moves are all mindless bullshit that take absolutely no skill or strategy to use, you just press your win button
>>336932215
everyone's consensus: GIT GUD
>>336919950
/v/iral
>tfw reflecting McCree's Deadeye with Genji
>tfw reflecting Hanzo's arrows
>tfw making Bastion kill himself
I wish Genji wasn't always picked by scrubs
>>336932494
That's not an argument, it's mindless derogatory insecurity
>>336932494
t. Bastion player
>Enemy team only has 1 make to end of round stats
>Instant 5 EPIC likes
Kek
Has anyone literally seen a Zenyatta player
Does such a thing even exist?
>>336919950
I've never been killed by a bastion. I just teleport up on him, drop sticky and rewind. Or I shoot him once full charged and second 0% charge and it is a 100% kill every time he cannot counter.
There are only two things that need a nerf. One is the power of Phara's rockets and two are the grab/immobilize skills (like the beartrap or roadhogs chain pull). They should all allow counter skills to override (like the grimedge's smoke ability or tracer's timewarp).
The game is sublimely balanced beyond that.
>>336929219
If you kill people during their ult you get way more points towards getting potg. I don't know how much it factors into who gets potg but I know that killing people during their ult is huge even if you only kill like 2-3 people.
So when is Loseston going to be made viable?
He's fun to play but it feels like there are so many other characters that do the same shit he does but better.
>All the people that have had time with the game and got gud shit all over Bastion so much he's basically underpowered and under-represented
>/v/ complains heavily about Bastion
like pottery, you unskilled retards.
>>336932643
>>336932680
The arguments have already been made, scrub.
Competitive players find Bastion easy to counter.
Blizzard agrees with them.
Stop sucking dicks and learn how to play the game.
>>336928675
>Genji
Stop shooting for a second then blow him up, not a hard counter
>Widow
Bastion is best played defensive where he can choose a location that widow cant operate in, not a hard counter.
>Hanzo
See widow.
>Reinhardt
Bastion is the counter to reinhardts shield effectiveness not to mention you can blow up anyone if they get out of the protected angle for a quarter of a second
>Roadhog
Soft counter, has to play well enough to get in range through a flank
>Tracer ult
Ults aren't counters, they are all threats.
>Reaper
See widow/hanzo
>Pharah
See widow/hanzo/reaper although she has the mobility to do this often. Soft counter on last point only.
>76
What the fuck are you even talking about
>>336932930
He's great already with his aimbot weapon and insane mobility.
>>336923752
>other side of the map
the hook as like a 10 foot range
>Defend the points!
>My whole team waits at the enemy spawn, die and give them the first point for free
>>336932820
Nope, Zarya booted him out as second best support.
One of the sexless robots from the original concept gets benched for a SJW icon that SJW's don't even like.
>>336931264
lucio is such a fucking tank when he's in a group, whenever I try to prioritise him asgenjihe heals more damage then I can chip off, coupled with the fact that he can keep his team tanked as fuck mean until get an ultimate or pick them off separately I have to standby and spam shurikens
>>336933125
Every fucking time
>overtime
>playing defense genji
>defending the point with my team
>only gut left is a reaper in the distance moving in on the point
>tell my team to spread out because I know that little fucker has his ult
>before I can finish my sentience my teammate roadhog grapples him
>oh no
>DIE DIE DIE ensues
>try to reflect but to no avail I die
>whole team wiped out
>we loose
>mfw it was POTG
>>336919950
>Playing Soldier 69.
>Press Q.
>I kill 4/5 of the enemy team on the point which included a Bastion.
GIT GUD FAG
>>336920667
You faggots have to bring SJWs into everything huh?
>>336932468
>The moves are all mindless bullshit that take absolutely no skill or strategy to use, you just press your win button
Confirmed sub lvl-10 baddy.
I hope that once it launches there will be a gamemode that only allows 1 hero per team, the xd we picked 6 of the same hero and wasted your queue is ass. And so are Lucio vs Lucio gamesI'm not the only one that thinks Reinhardt could use a minor damage buff right
>>336933474
>be genji
>assassinating niggers and running off
>reflecting damage from panicking shitters
>wraping out before they can kill me
>getting that sweet ultimate and literally clearing a point of 5 enemies
genji is godly
>>336920135
Not when there's 6 of them.
>>336932979
>"competitive" players
You mean Bastion mains?
>>336931883
pff nice filename
>>336933446
reaper gets hooked and survives? And then kills your team?I find that hard to believe
>>336920515
This game is more of a parody of an FPS.
>>336933348
Genji just doesn't have enough damage to outheal the lucio passive heal.
His shurikens do jackshit. You have to ult if you even want a chance.
>>336933592
This game does a good job at rewarding good positioning and efficient play.
>Queue up alone
>Yfw you fill in for a ragequitter on Hanamura Attack
>>336933704
reaper does retarded damage up close
There's really no reason Bastion should have a self-heal
Maybe in mobile mode, but if you're going turret mode, you really shouldn't have it
bastion is le underpowered man of baddie kills, leave him alone
How to get gud at Genji?
I keep getting blown the fuck out
>>336933947
t. scrubby player
>le bastion is le balanced meme just le shoot him
I love it
Is mystery hero fun?
>>336934104
No, just being honest dude
Why should he be allowed to sit waaay in the back with the highest DPS so even if you try to take shots at him, his team can jump on you and then just heal any damage you try to do to him
>>336934075
>be annoying if ult isn't up
>get your ult and blow things up
>>336933860
So does Roadhog. He counters Reaper HARD too, he shouldn't have had the change to even pop his ult.
Obviously you had a shitty Roadhog.
>>336933704
Roadhogs hook combo doesn't always instagib people, and if he ulted right in his face, Roadhog would have died almost instantly. If the rest of his team was also bunched up like he said, they probably all died immediately as well.
>>336934254
You don't even have to kill Bastion. Honestly taking a few pot shots at him when he hasn't noticed can force him from his position or at least off of another target.
>the potg is le japanese archer shooting a lone we wuz kings
literally how
>Bastion + Mercy + Reinhardt combos
Is this the biggest antifun combo?
>>336933306
Zenyatta is one of the most interesting character designs I've seen in a while, especially considering it's blizzard were talking about. Fuck he is themed around peace among all types of people, equality, and all that shit, not the "STOP OPPRESSING YOU WHITE CIS SCUM" bullshit that SJW parade as "fighting for equality".
He gets nerfed to death, and Zarya doesn't fit in with any of the other characters, is basically a female Heavy, down to the "Strong Russian from Siberia that speaks very broken English, and belittles everyone". She was meant to pander to the SJW body-type, meanwhile Roadhog does a better job at pandering to that.
>Hanzo's Lone Wolf and Okami skins change his ult to wolves
That's pretty neat
>>336934891
J-just counter them!
>>336934891
Hanzo's ult at least forces them to move, Junkrat and Tracer can harass them a lot too
It's definitely annoying to deal with though
>>336934956
>Muh SJWs
Dude really kill yourself. You are the worst guy in these threads.
>>336919950
Me and my friends decided to fuck people up with this setup:
Bastion (me)
Reinhardt
2 Mercies ( one for me one for reinhardt )
Widowmaker, any character really.
It took the other team ( we were defending ) 2 minutes to even get to the payload. 10/10 best strat 2k16 - was a nice change from the full team of widowmakers i get with randoms
>>336919950
except for the fact he gets raped by genji everytime
>>336934218
It keeps people from rolling a call of duty tier teams of offense/snipers only. Forces you to play with a team makeup and heroes you aren't comfortable with.
bastions simply not fun to play against. i can kill him but its fucking shit. its how i feel about a lot of the shit in this game.
>>336929826
that post is from a closed beta months ago, they already nerfed pharah's rocket damage if she doesn't direct hit somebody.
>>336920818
You're shit at the game if you think mercy is useless. literally everytime i play mercy the kill of the game is when i give somebody a damage boost and they kill 4 people. I have also won us so many fucking games by healing the whole team as fast as i can while we're in the objective and facing a whole opposing last ditch offense
>>336934956
You're a dumb motherfucker and desperately need to find a real problem.
>>336934891
I went up against a team of 2 Reinharts, 2 Bastions and Mercy. They sat on top of the payload with shields and just assblasted everyone and won.
I think Roadhog's hook should go through the shield, because there's no way to get through it when they already have two Bastion turrets aimed down your throat. And it'd be a little less of "hey fuck you guys I've got a shield and now my whole team is protected" when you could just hook him out and blast his face
>>336919950
Bastion is squishy as fuck i literally only died from him when i first started playing the game and i didnt know what the fuck was happening.I don't even like him but i dont want him to get nerfed just because shitters complain
>>336935589
no, it's balanced. ur just bad
git gud
Overwatch has stupid, anti-skill, RPS game play. How anybody thought this could ever be competitive baffles me.
>>336919950
>play complete garbage
>complain about it being complete garbage
>still playing complete garbage
>>336935253
Having two Mercies is just cheesy.
Found great setup for Nepal, Basically two Mercies sitting healing everyone, a roadhog pulling any ranged characters into close ranged to get wrecked, Reinhardt doing his thing, and two Meis keeping Icewalls on the entrances.
It's honestly unfair, considering you can go the whole game without anyone on the team dying once.
>>336935950
Can you faggots just fuck off and not post?
>>336935829
Competitive is going to be all about counterpicks, but without any sort of cooldown or ban system it's going to be a clusterfuck of everyone changing every single death in an infinite loop to counter each other.
>>336936118
>20 cents have been deposited into your account
>go road hog
>chain him
>2 shot him
>go senji
>reflect his bullets at him till he kills himself because all bastion players are noobs
>play literally anything
>flank him from behind and 1shot his crit spot
>>336920667
>Nobody is picking support on route 66 attack but everyone is complaining about no support.
>Fuck it, Jet Set Hue time
>"No anon pick mercy we need a real healer"
>Ignore them
>Proceed to carry the game like fuck.
>Killing Genjis that try to deflect my wubstep
>Killing bastions from across the map because they don't move out of the way of my slow bullets
>Punting Asphaltbacon off the cliff when he tries to hook me
>Soundwave to negate enemy pushes and ults
>lose 3 feet away from the end because the enemy picks 2 Reins and 2 bastions and goes super turtle mode.
>"If we had mercy we would have won"
This game is fun.
>>336933036
>>336936386
>Flank him in map with no alternate routes. Only chokepoints.
>>336931594
>>336931786
>>336931815
>>336931995
>>336932327
>Be me
>Be Junkrat
>Literally be that faggot tryhard in TF2 who'd shut down entire defenses and paths, denying the point from the enemy team or spamming grenades on my own team
Winstons can't rape widows, D.Vas are forced to bounce to death or turn away. Emo mexican and fucking tracer are my only real counters but as long as I put my traps and bombs ontop of me they die with me too. Making the entire point of attacking me moot, not to mention my death grenades. And then my ultimate is a smaller slightly less damage D.Va ultimate and I can control it or loiter until the enemy forgets about it and blow it at the last second.
Junkrat is literally the demo man on acid, great damage, okayish health, good spammable deployables, area denial and fucking indirect fire make it a bitch to deal with.
>>336936734
then go demo man and kill him from behind a wall or around a corner
bastion is literally the easiest character in the game to counter because it requires to raw skill just knowledge on how the game works
>>336936734
>no alternate routes
LMAO these fucking scrubs man.
>>336936734
>only chokepoints
cant wait till the beta is over so i dont see your kind again
Well, I think I just played the most impossible match you could ever get put in.
>Hanamura
>Attacking point B
>Team is your average pub shitters
>Enemy team had a Bastion and Toblerone on the point with a Rein and Mercy supporting them
>They had a Roadhog hanging out at the front door pulling anybody who got too close into the zone of instant death, and otherwise ruining any cohesion my pubbie team had
>An actually good Genji was running around outside shitting on anybody who ran into him, who mercilessly bullied our support and ensured our mandatory Widow was 100% useless
>Somehow managed to cap the first point almost immediately, so we got to suffer for the maximum amount of time possible
I can't imagine how it could have been worse. Maybe if they were an actual premade instead of some miracle cohesion between pubbies that managed to just work.
>>336932691
fuggin saved
>>336935589
That's a situation where Symmetra would actually be useful. She hard counters the Reinhardt/Bastion murdertrain combo.
>>336937034
even the slightest amount of cohesion shits on pubbies
>>336920454
As a genji you can deflect his bullets back
As a widow or hanzo 2 peak shots kills him (Heck even 2 full bursts of lucios attack kills him)
As a roadhog your hook unmounts him
As a junkrat you just spam grenades in his direction and he either has to get up and move or stay in repair mode which renders him useless
Zarya literally gets stronger as she sponges bullets so wrecks him if she gets sprayed
Mc-Cree just flashbangs and sprays
The only people who are weak to it are pharoah, reaper and i guess tracer if you dont have ult
