>that time when Nintendo represented the entirety of /v/ in one character
I still don't understand how people could hate 64's chapter 5. it has so many good moments,YI throwbacks,and a lot of variety in its areas. the fake death the boss pulls was the icing on that cake
>>336903452
>undertale stole this
>>336903452
>he transports you into a fucking VN
never gets old
>>336903787
I haven't played paper mario in ages. What was chapter 5? Was it Yoshi Island?
>A sweaty nerd lizard will never go full beta and stutter in front of you because you have unexpectedly invaded its personal manchild room
Why live
>>336904019
yeah
I actually liked Super Paper Mario. It had a lot of stupid funny moments like this one.
Do you think Nintendo will EVER go back to the RPG mechanics of the first two games?
>>336905996
just depends on if the series survives long enough to switch off to someone that isn't that one dude. also depends on the state of M&L
>>336905996
Super paper Mario was one of my first wii games and teen me thought the story was pretty great for a Mario game. Super comfy.
>>336905996
Personally I wish They would have made Super Paper Mario its own series and also made the turn based ones for the main line.
>>336904494
Feels batman
>>336903787
>>336904604
IIRC the only reason people hated the Yoshi level was because searching for the baby yoshis was tedious, plus that stupid bub-ulb didn't let you have his seed immediately.
>>336906685
it's not like they had you backtracking a bunch or had you chasing each one. it was a nice nonlinear section
>>336905996
Probably not.
Even after Color Trash terribible reception, they'll just start pushing some other retarded gimmick.
>>336906114
I believe that M&L and Paper Mario can co-exist peacefully, M&L is the portable rpg and Paper Mario is the console rpg.
>>336903925
Man Paper Peach is just the sassiest little cutie. Even in video games 2D are better than 3D.
But OP that's why Super Paper Mario is so hated!
>>336906685
Also the partner for that area wasn't quite as fun as the others. She was alright, but she wasn't as fun as Goombario or Bow.
>>336908106
Why have people decided Color Splash is terrible already? SPM was fun even though it was gimmick based shit.
>>336910896
Because SPM had its writing and original characters steal the show.
Color Splash will be yet another Paper Mario title that doesn't have either of these things.
Was there a release date/window for Color Splash? Genuinely curious about this E3. Not for the games they're going to deliver and announce but how they'll behave to the constant backlash over almost every game they're releasing... A full fledged Paper Mario trailer would go a long way
>>336911182
Wasn't almost every original character in SPM just a geometric shape. I remember all of them being extremely bad and boring.
hi-technicaaaaal!
>>336911381
E3 is Zelda direct
>>336911508
No. Do you not remember O'Chunks, Dimentio, Bleck, or anyone else?
>>336910896
Because it's literally Sticker Star 2, from the gameplay to the generic Toads NPCs.
>>336905996
the gameplay in SPM was ass but I give it a pass for having the best writing and storyline in the series
Sticker Star had both the worst gameplay AND the worst story, and the new one on the Wii U looks more or less the same
Best character btw
>>336903810
Undertale stole everything. Character designs, settings, music, you name it.
>>336911508
Geometric shapes was that weird dimension's visual style. Regardless of how they looked, there were still lots of interesting characters.
Besides, I'd rather have ever character be a different shape over every character being the same Toad.
>>336911887
>head in the middle starts spinning around
NIGHTMARE FUEL
>>336911909
Let's not go overboard, Super Paper Mario had a small handful of actually interesting characters. Most of them were totally forgettable. The game just put those more interesting characters in prominent roles so they made up for the majority of the cast being so dull.
>>336908106
Why does it seem that Nintendo is totally tone deaf to its fans? I'm a diehard Nintendo fan, but even I'm getting tired of their shit recently. Between Paper Mario, Star Fox Zero, only Zelda at E3, telling us that we should like Federation Force instead of making a real Metroid game, and Miyamoto being worshipped as a god within the company despite his creativity being dry for over a decade, I'm really fed up with their shit. If the NX is garbage, that might be the last straw for me.
>>336911681
All of those were uninteresting characters with nothing going for them story-wise though. Well, Bleck had some shit at least.
>>336912618
Maybe because a lot of their fans are whiny brats who complain about not getting their way more than any arguments about quality or interesting products.
And then a lot are kids too.
>>336912560
Yo man SPM had some fantastic characters. Of all things to complain about, why choose the one thing that the game accomplished properly?
>>336912878
It had a couple fantastic characters, but you can count them on your fingers. It had a ton of characters that nobody ever cared about on the same side, people just don't remember those bits because well, they weren't memorable.
>>336908106
who is the sad man
>>336912618
I'm only gonna buy NX when I see:
a metroid game that isn't shit
and a 3D Mario that's not 3DWorld 2 or something equally lazy
Otherwhise I'm done with Nintendo home consoles.
>>336913004
It had more interesting character than most games. Of course there's going to be some NPCs meant for filling the world, that's how games work. And even then a lot of these NPCs had pretty good dialog.
>>336913048
I actually really liked 3D World. A new collectathon Mario would be nice, though.
>>336912878
Super Paper Mario's primary cast (Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Tippi and Peach) are fun. The major villains vary from okay (Bleck, Dimentio) to great (O'Chunks, Mimi.) But in terms of supporting and tertiary cast? Francis is the ONLY one that stands out at all. The rest of the game is boring nobodies you completely forget about the second they leave the screen. Compared to Paper Mario and TTYD, it's an absolute downgrade.
>>336910896
Because everything shows signs of being another Sticker Star
>>336913171
>>336913048
>all that collecting bullshit just for the only level with somewhat challenge
Man, Retro even did bonuslevels better than Nintendo too
>>336912618
Nintendo's target audience has always been kids and since they Wii they have added casual adults to it. Neckbeards were never their audience, yet they constantly cry about Nintendo not catering to them for some reason.
Nintendo doesn't care about Mario lore or anything most "Nintendo fans" would care about, they just want to make colorful games with responsive gameplay and new gimmicks for the kids and possibly their parents to enjoy. That's it.
>>336913218
>Not remembering based pic related.
>>336913271
I thought levels before the Champion Road were challenging. Maybe not to a super expert player, but they were difficult to me once you started going into space.
>>336913218
Luvbi was good
>>336913332
Nintendo literally said "We really want to appeal to the Hardcore audience again" when they unveiled the Wii U. They got people's hopes up by saying that. They should be surprised when people are let down.
>>336913271
Tropical Freeze was so superior to 3DW it wasn't even funny.
It's like Nintendo really gave up on making memorable games.
>>336913447
Luvbi is practically my primary example of the NPCs being mostly forgettable.
>>336913428
You're right, I forgot about Squirps. I guess we can count him too.
>>336903810
except alphys wasn't a throwaway joke character, she was played straight
>>336913479
Well compared to the Wii it is arguably more hardcore. They got games like Wonderful 101 and Bayonbeta 2 made, for the Wii U.
>>336913332
It always was but they used to be brutal and had a lot of stuff for older people to enjoy.
They also had F-zero and Metroid that are not kid friendly.(I'd also argue that Pikmin is not for kids)
Yea the wii U got 2 P* games that are good but they're not from nintendo.
All that's left is donkey kong
>>336912618
I think the success of the Wii basically taught them that they shouldn't listen to hardcores and that gimmicks are awesome and the smallfolk love them.
Problem is the Wii honeymoon is over and the divorce papers were filed ages ago.
>>336913479
They did but I think Xenoblade X is the only first party title that can be argued to not be a kid or casual game. It's more of a teen+ one.
>>336911678
But they won't have any directs, just treehouse livestream
>>336913673
Nintendo games haven't been brutal since the NES, and you're really overselling F-Zero and Metroid's "hardcoreness."
>>336913673
>All that's left is donkey kong
>>336913617
Then you should find a better example. I don't know what you have against SPM characters but your argument basically boils down to, "the characters are good but there's not enough so they're actually bad. Also those good character I forgot to mention don't count because I say so."
>>336913218
I thought the tartarus/heaven chapter had a cool cast.
The Sammer guys, while individually meh, were a group with overall interesting lines.
>>336913786
Sorry, forgot about Kirby since I don't play on 3DS. Kirby games are always great
>>336913764
F-Zero GX was pretty damn hard though it was made by Sega if I remember correctly. Like I've spoken to multiple people who didn't play that past trying it out because "it was too difficult". Later tracks in the game in particular aren't just about winning, you need to fucking not die too. Also the story mode is ridiculously challenging.
>>336908106
Miyamoto had NOTHING to do with SS. The only thing he did to SS was suggesting to make a Paper Mario that wasn't "a port of the GC game". Why is he in the drawing?
>>336914083
>they brought back Dark Matter
>And the Star Dream
Kirby and DK are staying strong, dont worry
>>336911732
>google image search this
>all the results are for sticker star
it's like pottery
>>336913673
New Donkey Kong games are by Retro though? You count them but not Platinum games?
>>336914229
Robobot seemed to want to be an anniversary title with all the nods to past games.
>That Marx soul remix for Mechaknight 2.0
>>336914260
Well, donkey kong is a Nintendo IP and retro work mostly for nintendo so I gave it a pass but you're right, shouldn't consider it more than P* games.
>>336912356
Imaginesex with Mimiwhere she transforms partway through
>>336903810
there is nothing new under the sun
>>336914229
Does Star Dream actually have anything to do with Nova or is it just similar because who the fuck knows?
Deepest lore in Kirby.
>>336914260
>>336914461
I'm pretty sure Retro is owned by Nintendo.
>>336905996
They still have that humor. It's just currently repressed.
Like in Mario and Luigi Dream team. There was no amusing dialog like this at all. but the monsters would fuck with you in all sorts of hilarious ways.
And the mountain chapter had a bunch of statues dedicated to guys who lift, and that was hilarious. It was only like, 5-6 statues in 1 chapter, but it was hilarious and the same humor as the old paper mario games.
So it's there, but cash is what everything comes down to. Those great dialogs and jokes didn't sell. why should they invest in it?
>>336914524
>>336914190
You forgot
>if it works without a story, does it really need one?
And
>use only existing Mario characters.
>>336911860
>the gameplay in SPM was ass
it wasn't. Other than the wii-remote gimmicks which weren't that bad, it was a platformer, not a turn based RPG. It was still a good platformer.
>>336914819
Super Paper Mario is the best selling one by more than 2 millions.
>>336912618
All of Nintendo's greatest games were released on the gamecube.
Which sold horribly.
So, as a business, they realized, quality single player experiences don't sell. They need to follow the market.
So they made games like Splatoon and Mario Maker. Which are great for the genres they are. But they aren't single player experiences like Metroid Prime or Paper Mario.
I must be the only one who doesn't care about a new Paper Mario RPG. The original was great, the sequel did some solid improvements to mechanics but overall felt like a rehash in most ways and hat hit&miss chapter quality, a third one would be pushing it. I'm glad they took a different route but that doesn't mean I'm not mad they did such a shit job with it.
>>336914819
Is this the SS of the M&L series?
>>336915534
Yeah, except it still had good combat and amusing dialogue.
>>336913959
Take into account the other games.
64 has the koopa bros as some of the most memorable villians, Tubba Bubba is quite good too and Jr. as much as I hate him, is well made. For the supporting cast you got Kolorado as one of the best characters, the master is probably the coolest bonus boss, gourmet guy, Bootler, Moustafa, Quizmo dude, Twink. For TTYD you got Doopliss, the Sirens, hooktail, lord crump and sir grodus as villians. Then you get characters such as Cortez, Hawk Rawk, Pennington, general white, Flavio. And that's not mentioning how partners > pixies
>>336915534
This game was fucking shit. I was excited for it. I mean Paper Fucking Mario in an actual RPG again but then it was a very much M&L game with Paper Mario just as an addon. All the Toad gathering segments were SHIT BORING too. The only good thing about the game was boss fights. The papercraft fights were really boring and unimaginative after the giant battles from Dream Team which were easily the highlight.
Good company
>>336914650
It's Nova 2.0
Haltmann says he reverse engineered ancient tech
>>336910896
If it was like SPM people probably wouldn't be as upset. It looks like Sticker Star, from the 'everything is made of crafts!' to the world map to the generic toads and lack of unique characters. It's going to suck.
>>336915672
I actually hated both.
Combat was way too slow and easy.ITEMS INSTEAD OF FUCKING BROS ATTACKS AGAIN
Dialogue just wasn't there for me.Mega-Thwonk was a pretty fucking awesome attack though
>>336915920
>slow and easy
It really wasn't.
Fused Bowser + Paper Bowser has to be the hardest boss in any Mario game.
And many others were really hard too, like Paper Petey.
>>336915920
>ITEMS INSTEAD OF FUCKING BROS ATTACKS AGAIN
Wait what, I'm pretty sure it had bros attacks like all of the games? I would remember if you had to use items instead of BP.
>>336913959
Paper Mario 64 and Ten Thousand Year Door has oodles of good characters. Super Paper Mario has about ten. Those ten are very good, but a game as big as Paper Mario needs more than ten, especially when most of the game is going new (mostly uninteresting) places and meeting new (mostly uninteresting) people. It's an absolutely valid criticism that most of the cast is forgettable, even if there are some diamonds in the rough.
Can we at least agree that the PM girls need more porn? Vivian and Bow are getting kinda stale
>>336916321
>SSS
>Mario Turning into a ball while Luigi hits him into enemies
>Corkscrew jumps using their bodies
>Cyclone Bros
>Fire Bros instead of FIRE FLOWERS
>Thunder Bros
I miss variety
>>336916295
That boss was very hard and fun, but everything leading up to it was too fucking easy.
>>336914190
Because fans need a scapegoat.
>>336914819
>There was no amusing dialog like this at all.
What? Dream Team's writing had about as much comedy as every other title.
How do I fuck spider Mimi?
>>336913626
No, she was played gay.
>>336916745
the other games have variety too and Dream Team's Luiginary attacks are straight up bros. attacks on steroids.
>roll a giant ball of luigis
>building a tower of Luigis
>giant Luigi hammer
>hitting a spinning luigi into enemies while he gets bounced back by a wall of luigis
>fire bros.+
>>336916321
He means the Bros Attacks were based on Mario items instead of just Mario and Luigi doing random stuff.
>>336905996
Even if they didn't go back to the RPG elements, I'd be okay if they could just salvage the fucking brilliant writing of the PM, TTYD, and SPM.
THEY TOOK OUT THE ROULETTE WHEEL
>>336917989
>Earthbound with Superstar Saga's battle system
Please.
>>336918086
never ever
>>336917725
>>336903787
I liked chapter 5s in the three good PMs.
>>336914120
yes it's hard. But there are advanced techniques in the game which take away a lot of the difficulty. I got stuck in chapter 8 i think. In that 1v1 race, the one before the last in other words. I then learned how to do that Slide drifting (?) forgot how it's called. Where you turn right, press the L shoulder button (the opposite from the direction you're turning) And softly press the right one and adjust it by pressing harder and softer real quick. I never quite learned snakeing cause it wasnt necessary.
I sperged out again, sorry. My point being, yeah, it's a hard game if you try to play it by the book. It needs research which, nobody is willing to do these days. The immense satisfaction i felt after beating the story mode, is simply unrivaled. I know challenging games arent a nintendk thing anymore, or never where i guess, but i hate how every single newer nintendo game of X ip has become so pathetically shallow and simply not fun. F-zero gx is one of the very few games that could be considered perfect.
I guess i am no longer nintendos target audience.
>>336918670
I liked them in all paper mario games.also want to say that anyone who needed to use the super effective sticker on bosses was a scrub
>>336913027
The director of the original games
>>336908106
If one were to show Tanabe this image he wouldn't understand that it's portraying him negatively
>How do you want your videogame series, senpai?
>>336918808
It upsets me that Nintedo won't make a new F-Zero because according to them they "can't think of what to do with the series to make it new again" but meanwhile they make like 5 New SMBs and 8 Mario Karts with minimal updates between games.
I mean they could just re-release GX as a HD title and gauge interest at least.
>>336919813
very horny
>>336919835
Miyamoto said he can't think of a new control scheme for a new game.
So unless you want gyro or waggle F-zero you better pray it stays dead.
>>336920419
Why does he need to? He didn't think of a new control scheme for fucking Mario either.
>>336920659
He's a senile old fuck.
>tfw SPM was more of an RPG than Sticker Star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltD3X-y8ldU&spfreload=10
>>336919835
>>336920419
not much you can do when the gameplay has been perfected while with kart you can mess with items,gimmicks,and the general feel of driving
>>336903452
Man back in high school I'd get on digibutter.nerr.biz after school everyday
>>336916745
Please don't remind me of Dreamy Bowser. I got to him like two months ago and could not beat him. Game was a cakewalk and then he comes along. Asshole.
>>336903810
dexters lab stole this
>>336913764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONxKm8uApSc
>>336922314
im trying to remember what kaiju makes that noise
>>336914819
They should really just let the RPG guys do what they want. They're always the best when it comes to writing. Bowser's Inside Story was a riot.
>>336923738
FAWFULLY DO
>>336923738
>all those fetishes in BiS
>>336924354
>Inflation
>Vore
>Orb Fuckery
Did I miss anything?
>>336924414
The part where Boos start to force-feed Bowser and he gets fat
>>336924414
Macro/Micro, you dunce.
>>336924715
Kinda inflation tier
>>336924834
YUP
>>336924414
>mind control
>giantism
>force feeding
>masochism
>not sure if there's a name for the walking inside bowser's body or if it counts inside vore
>>336923738
Why is M&L so much more consistent than Paper Mario?
>>336926395
I honestly dont know, but I enjoyed the M&L combat more
>>336912825
They all had little story arcs tho, did you even play the game?
>>336911732
>CDi Link
>Grand Dad
Sounds like Neo Nintendo alright. Placing bets on this new Paper Mario having Grand Dad meme jokes in it.
>>336906447
>Wii
>teen
Ooookay there kiddo
>>336912618
>I'm really fed up with their shit. If the NX is garbage, that might be the last straw for me.
"I'm really fed up with their shit. If the Wii U is garbage, that might be the last straw for me."
