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Are you fucking trash at video games? Need an easy way out?
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Are you fucking trash at video games?
Need an easy way out?
Wish you didn't need this "skill" thing?
Go Bastion! This merc is so easy, a caveman can do it! What's that? Someone went Genji? Not to worry! Just get two others to go Bastion as well! Congratulations, you're now a fucking talentless faggot that has to use a cheap character to go positive and are the cancer that kills lobbies!
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>>336887341
Somebody's mad.
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>>336887341
>someone went genji
>just dont shoot for literally 2 seconds then eviscerate him
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>Roadhog can pull him out of turret and practically kill him in one shot to the face
>junkrat practically kills him in one hit
>widowmaker can also kill him in one hit
Bastion is pretty fucking shit half the time. I guess you just suck at this piss easy game and wanna complain?
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>>336887341
but WAIT! you can get TWO of them at same time! Guarantee WIN in no time!
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>>336887341
I always play bastion when im defending and have my buddy healing me with mercy the entire time
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>>336887341

>mfw i just went 32 eliminations with 24 of those being legit kills as Bastion with over 20k damage and gold medal in healing as well
>mfw when i say "gg ez" at the end of the match and trigger autists like you
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>>336887341

get good
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>>336888320
>mccree and pharah nerfs incoming

welp time to main them all day tomorrow and enjoy the easy fun wins while it last
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Sorry I can't hear you over my NOOT NOOT
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>>336887341
>can't kill a stationary target
>literally easymode the game
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HHUEHUEHUEHUEHU
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this game revolve around the same chars, it's annoying and i don't think i ever won an attack because of this, there's just not many way to flank in some maps
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>>336888797
I like how in splatoon, the devs made it so they could easily modify the map when its not well designed enough with certain parts to change the flow of the game

lets see if blizzard can create some simple block assets that could work with the level for balance
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RYUU GA WAGA TEKI WO KURAU
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>>336887341
I love playing vs Bastion because he is always a free kill for me.
He also make it easier for me to give wall-hack to my entire team.

Keep crying bitch ass nigga and git gud.
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>>336887341
Just drop the game and play Tf2 instead.
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>>336888460
those nerfs have already happened. this is old
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>>336889239
>Scope charging is practically instant
>No Unscope on shot fired, very spammable.
>Given a fucking AR as her close range weapon, the AR is only slightly worse than Soldier 76's
>Poison traps + AR can take out enemies at close range pretty reliably

Why the fuck aren't people complaining about how broken widowmaker is.
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>>336887341
This game is unbalanced as fuck anyway so who cares

I'm glad I got the beta with my friends because otherwise someone of us would've bought the damn thing
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>>336889419
Her AR is pretty shit. The bullet spread is too great but her trap is insane for offense and defence
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>>336889419
because the whole game is broken lel
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Best character hands down

https://youtu.be/DXbLWbcWK38
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time well spent
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>>336887341
it's a cartoon shooter, it's not supposed to be taken seriously imo
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>>336889419
because there isnt ANY good widowmakers in the beta
all the faggots who play her use cause she is a sniper or cause shes their waifu
which means that they are terrible at the game no matter what the reason for picking her is
if a majority of the people in this game were half decent with her people would probably bitch about her more than they do about bastion cause she can rape fucking anyone
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They should have done the tf route and made a balanced cast of a small amount of characters instead of a large cast of unbalanced characters.

Bastion IS good of you don't expect him which you won't half the time unless he's a dipshit who stands still.
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>>336887532
didn't even know the game had Samus Aran's cousin
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>>336889494
It works well enough, especially when people are forced to get close to you. The damage is almost identical to s76.

Theres a reason the TF2 sniper was given shitty SMGs.
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>>336887341
I really wouldn't find bastion bullshit at all if they decreased his range when hes a turret
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>>336888320
>we don't give a shit about fans, we have our own secret club!
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You know that fat as fuck kid that use to camp like a little bitch? They grew up to play Bastion
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>>336889632
I primarily hate Widowmaker, Hanzo, Mcree, and Soldier 76.

I play Pharah.
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>>336889780
>No Falloff Sniping Minigun for Bastion
>D.Va is plagued with terrible falloff and shit dps because of it.
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>>336889924
One can move and one can't. Please get good. Creaming a team full of Bastions will make you realize there's more to life than being an insufferable faggot.
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The only character who I really despise is Mei. Her abilities are so irritating, and the freezing shit is so easy to get off and is just a free kil, not to mention the fact that her icicles can basically snipe people. Plus her ult is absolutely ridiculous, while I haven't played much of the game, I haven't really seen an effective counter for her in the 12 hours I've played. Usually if a Mei is even decent on the other team, she can shut down a lot of characters and players, mostly also because half the people playing this game are garbage.
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>>336889632
>there isnt ANY good widowmakers in the beta
So you haven't been playing the beta then? Not to mention the russians probably have their aimbots ready now.
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>>336889863
Winston and Pudge shit on Pharah as well
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>>336887341
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>>336890047
I find Winston to be a Soldier vs Pyro situation where it's entirely dependent on who comes at who at what point in the map. Pudge is a right cock.
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>>336890019
lvl 30 now and i can recall only a handful of matches where any widowmaker could kill people
its literally rare as shit for any widow player to even be able to bodyshot
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>plex detected tier
soldier 76
bastion
lucio
mei
reaper
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>>336887341
>Every single payload map comes down to the last point
>Attacking teams only win because they have ults, if not they lose
>Every map besides KOTH maps are nothing but a series of tight choke-points
>CoD kiddies "Main" characters in a TF2 ripoff so half the games you have to swap around because nobody else is countering what's stopping you
>Supports are literally the most boring shit in the world yet are 100% needed because their ults are free wins
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>>336889632
I've seen maybe two or three good Widowmakers. The key is not leaving them alone so they can't do what they want to.
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>>336889539
isn't that what DOTA did? it makes the game fun having everything be busted, better than HOTS or WoW pvp balancing where everything is just a wet noodle fight.
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>>336890197
There're two kinds of games - high ttk or low ttk.

DOTA and OW are low ttk, HoTS and Battleborn are high ttk. The appeal is different.
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>>336890170

>Supports are literally the most boring shit in the world yet are 100% needed because their ults are free wins

>Zen Robot
>Music Man
>Boring

Did you even play
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>>336890292
i like zen robo because his ult eats up every other ult in the game and has high damage output/healing
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>>336890172
The most frustrating thing when playing Widow Maker is having a Genji that spends that entire game hunting you down.
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>>336890019
>"probably"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgKOO4K9F2E
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>>336890170
>dashing to heal teammates while you drive the opposite team crazy trying to kill you while moving the payload forward as well
>not fun
Shit posters never die.
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>>336890486
Look up "artificial advantage" for Overwatch. There was a youtube video of it in action as well, but I lost the link.
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>>336889990
This argument is instantly moot when you realize almost every map in this game is one big choke point.
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>>336888713
If your entire team weren't genjis i feel bad for them.
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>>336891061
*their
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*throws flashbang*
*rolls behind you*
It's high noon
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So are we still pretending that bastion is a stationary target, and that switching in and out of turrent mode isn't almost instant?
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>>336888713

Did this last night on the Russia map

Fun as shit roller skating around trying to keep sentries repaired
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>>336889168
play of the game.
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>>336891276

More like flashbang, fan hammer, if not dead, roll, fan hammer again
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>>336890940
case in point https://my.mixtape.moe/xfzbty.webm
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>>336890585
Holding M1 and occasionally pressing Shift isn't engaging. It's the most healslut tier character I've ever seen.
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>>336889632
Kek ive been maining widowmaker because of how broken she is for the exact reasons that anon mentioned. Her rifle at full charge is basically the awp in csgo minus the 4 second reload animation.
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>>336891821

>Holding M1 and occasionally pressing Shift

Whoa, whoa, you mean holding m1 and occasionally pressing m2, then hitting shift and dying
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>>336891871
this this, headshots one shotting basically anyone who isnt a tank
and bodyshots being damnear as lethal so you dont even need to headshot someone to still kill them in 2 shots
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>>336891821
so like shooting in games or any command on any video game ever?
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>mfw used to have problems with snipers and turrets
>switch to winston
>probably caused players of those archetypes to quit
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bastion is a fine character that takes skill

genji, on the other hard, is for wannabe tryhard faggots like OP
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>>336887341
>thinks Overwatch as a whole takes any skill to play

Blizzdrones everyone.
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>>336892318
they are both for faggot tryhards anon
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>>336892261

>Play Winston
>His gun feels like squirting water at people
>Jump around to avoid being the enormous target that he is
>Die


Even worse when I get an ultimate because I cant see what the fuck is happening.
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>>336892318
>bastion
>takes skill

Gr8 b8 m8
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>Enemy team has a Bastion, Mercy, and Reinhardt
>Reinhardt and Mercy are competent players, Bastion player has an IQ of over 30
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>Love to play Winston and give Mercy the BLACKED.COM
>His ult is just a minor nuisance and any good person will just ignore you as you punch them for 40 damage.
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>>336892464
genji spotted. hope you enjoyed dicking about and running up walls whilst the rest of your team were doing the objectives
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>>336891061
What if they just stopped shooting for the couple of seconds Genji's counter is active?
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>>336892448
He is not suppose to kill alot, he is a disruptor. He has high mobility so he is good at melting flimsy characters, but don't bother go 1v1 against reaper or mccree. With his jump you can pretty much pick your fights, so go hunt genjis, hanzos and widowmakers. Ult is to create havoc and spread opposite team. And also push people to ledges if there's any nearby.
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>playing robot monk
>genji goes CHOTTO MATTE in front of me
>launch my black testicle at him and wait a few seconds
>launch my other testicle at him and he dies
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>>336892545
His ult is great on maps where you can fall off the side
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>>336892323
It doesn't take skill, yet /v/ appears to suck at vidya with all these "OP hero" complaint threads
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>mei players think they are not absolute shitters

100% of all of them will sabotage their own team with walls while pretending to be good just for getting a couple of kills.
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>tfw putting Sentries as Torbjörn on the moving platforms at the end of Route 66
Here comes the sentry delivery
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>>336887341
How do you punish Genji at chokepoints?
He usually pops out does his reflect nonsense and fucks off and waits for you to focus on some other enemy before coming at you with his dash.
Can't seem to chase them down because all their buddies will target you, he usually only shows his face when he has his reflect ready.
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>>336892804

The game can be easy as fuck while at the same time some classes can be OP as fuck .
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What are you actually supposed to do as a tank? I just try and stand in front and shoot a bunch hoping to attract attention, but I don't know if that's actually smart.
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>>336892898
play reinhardt, stand on the payload with a bastion and mercy, watch the enemy team rage because they don't understand how the shield works.
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>>336892884
>>336892804
the reason for these complaints is that a lot of the counters in overwatch are very, very hard. as in 'if you see this character and can't run away then you're dead' hard. if you're coming from TF2 (which has almost entirely soft counters) then it is jarring
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>>336892898
If the enemies are shooting at you, then you're doing your job as your teammates (hopefully) shoot them while they're distracted. I find Reinhardt to be the best tank for this reason.
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>>336892804
The weird thing is the game is full of OP characters making it stupidly easy. Nearly half or more of the roster is full of characters with either insane damage output, or an ult that can wipe a whole team by itself. And most of those characters have both.
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>>336892545
I hate that there's literally 0% chance to win against McCree in a straight up 1v1. He'll just stun fan roll reload fan me to death before I can DoT him down with my tesla.
Aside from McCree and Mei I shred all the other supports.
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>>336892898
Depends on the tank.
Reinhart: hold your shield up and hope your retarded team realizes they should stay behind it and kill the enemy shooting at you
DVa: Fly around and fuck up their backline's day, E big incoming damage and ults.
Roadhog: Try to hook high-value targets and eat them. Absorb hits with your big fat ass and heal through it with E.
Winston: Jump around like a retard in their backline hoping it distracts them enough for your retarded team to get their shit together and maybe kill them
Zarya: Sit around until your Ult pops up and hope you can land it on a good portion of the enemy team.
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>>336892985

Some are like that but some heroes are insanely OP in some situations. Especially because of the spectacularly bad level design.

Junkrat and Bastion are way too strong in certain maps. No skill is required to rape the enemy team .
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>>336888713
>poor little black human
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>>336893281
this ain't quake 3 anon. it's more about picking the character and picking the situation than about shooting and aiming. personally i think it's deliberately designed that way. i don't care for it though
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>start an attack/defense
>on the attacking side
>step out of the gate
>two bastion turrets and two reinhardts shielding them
Okay, alone bastion is easy enough to deal with, but with this shit it becomes very very annoying.
My team couldn't leave spawn for a solid minute.
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>>336893378
>this ain't quake 3 anon

Blizzshill detected. Please kill you're self.
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>>336887341
>bastion is powerful because of level design sucks so much
>that said if 2 bastions know what they are doing they can cover entire chokepoint
>seriously most of times there is one or two chokepoints which makes it impossible to push without huge support of hanzo or zenyatta
without support your team is guarenteed to fail
>offense is ridiculously hard compared to defense because of bastion and other defensive heroes
>since there is pratically no time between shots of widowmaker(unless you are charging fully of course) she can rape you with scoped. this makes it like using auto-sniper in cs without the high risk
>a good mcree can destroy 1v1 close quarter because of roll and right click and while being a sniper
>some q's are ridiculously over-powered compared to others
>playing junkrat and spamming bombs has no down-side because of lack of ammunation
>lack of ammunation creates a situation of not leaving choke-points (hint: bastion)
>since play of the game counts kills most of time it shows stuff that doesn't matter (double kill by bastion vs 5-men resurrection by mercy)
>mei is balanced, she is incredible at close quarters but sucks at mid and long
>genji is balanced because of high-skill high-reward
>torbjörn needs a rework
>edgy the edge needs buff at his q
>zarya needs buff
these are my main concers, also who do you enjoyed most playing.
ZENYATTA master race here
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>>336893686
only on /v/ could i be called a blizzard shill for criticizing overwatch
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I just imagine the people who play bastion and die by shooting straight into Genji's E just shrug their shoulders and go "well, that's class balance for ya, I guess!"

Nigga you can just NOT SHOOT
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reminder that all hanzo players are faggots who deserve not to be healed
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>>336893424

Reinhardts is very easy to broke if you know what you are doing.

Dealing with two Bastion in the other hand is probably a lost cause.
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>>336893690
Pharah, because I enjoy being able to fly around and bomb everyone
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>>336893117
>DVa: Fly around and fuck up their backline's day, E big incoming damage and ults.
I've been playing D.Va actually. That seems dangerous, because then you'll be behind enemy lines without support and without a quick way out.
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Its not that bastion is op,you can kind of kill him with tracer,genji,widowmaker etc.
Problem is that you have to play a limited pool of characters when there is a bastion on the enemy team.oh you want to play soldier 76?no fuck you,you'll play widowmaker now.also you do this after your first death to bastion because one second of not seeing him means death
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>>336887341
>playing this trash game
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Mcree and Hanzo are complete garbage and do not reward aim in anyway

theyre as braindead as Bastion

D.Va and Tracer a best
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Bastion's weak point should be on top of the turret form, not behind it.

Its too easy to just sit down against a wall.
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EVERYTHING'S COMING UP EXPLODEY
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>>336890940
>>336890940
>>336890940
This, its not even that he's OP, its just that all the maps are a series of fucking corridors.
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>>336895824
I never thought they could make a character more spammy than Demo but then they decided infinite ammo was a good idea.
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>>336887341
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>>336887652
>tfw Mercy is dmg buffing you and you melt tanks in microseconds
If you don't play the entire spectrum of characters in this game this game just isn't for you. Deal with it nerds.
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>>336889670
spy and pyro are trash tho
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>>336888320
It does annoy me how Pharah excels at both long range and close range. When she blasts you in the face with a missile when you're literally right next to her she should die from her own blast.
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>>336897197
She can kill herself with her own missles, or at the very least take damage from it.
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>>336895585
>Hanzo are complete garbage and do not reward aim in anyway
Why do people say this? That's not true in my experience
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>>336890102
This comic would be accurate if the dude was running through a very narrow chokepoint into 5 bastions
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>>336897635
Like Huntsman in TF2, you can just spam into a chokepoint and get kills without trying, and then fire your big fuckoff dragon to get even more
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>>336897774
Why are these maps filled with these chokepoints? It shouldn't be that easy to cover all defenses.
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>>336897635
The huntsman description is pretty apt. It seems hes another one of the blindfire chars who can basically be garenteed a kill.
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>>336887341
Genji has very few characters that counter him. And can even trivialize Bastions 1v1.

Got a team spamming tanks cause lawl? Go Bastion.

Bastion has a ton of characters that counter him. I'm sorry you have no respect for positional gameplay.
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>>336895585
I just wish D.Va was Japanese instead of Korean though.
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>>336896295
>Maps are corridors
>Not timers in his abilities
>No falloff damage
>Can do a lot of damage fast
>Can heal himself to max heal
>YES THIS IS TOTALLY FINE
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>>336890102
More accurate if you had genji trying to play the game like he's supposed to but still losing because bastion has too much hp and damage
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>>336892448
The point of playing Winston is to be scary as fuck or at least pretend to be since his damage is shit
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>>336889796
That is not what they are saying and you know it.
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>>336892448
>jump behind five enemies making a push to the point
>tickle them with my gun
>get a fucking triple kill because none of them turn around
>jump back to the point
>pick off the two stragglers and get a double kill
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>>336898104
>Japanese instead of Korean
>Does not know how good Korean girls are
Shit son you are retarded. Japs are pretty shit compared to Korean girls
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>>336898468
>plastic girls
I guess children do like playing with dolls.
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>>336893690
Genji is not really balanced. His reward is far less than his risk.
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>>336894728
76's rockets hit hard and its not like bastion is moving
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>>336898732
This pretty much, Hanzo can also climb walls but kill in 1/10 the time genji does. Genji could need a buff to his shuriken and melee hit, that would be fine I think
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>>336899061
Buff his alt too. Theres no reason to be scared of him when he pops it.
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>>336899156
Yeah that too, being in someone's face is pretty dangerous in this game unless your opponent is Genji, despite him wielding a magical katana
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>>336899156
First time I saw Genji I thought it was going to be like Exalted Blade in Warframe since it seems like they took all the other inspiration for him from Excalibur.

I was disappointed when I used it.
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bastion's dps output is fine, maybe just tweak his mechanics a bit spool up time for his primary, increased bullet spread and longer reload times should somewhat fix him. He's still the most reliable way to melt rhein's shield in a direct confrontation
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>>336899203
Yep, exactly. Its really sad that he can't do shit but a reaper can just push triangle and wipe the whole team.
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>>336899368
>triangle
go away
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>>336899368
>triangle
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>>336899402
>>336899428
That's the button to use your ultimate on ps4, yes.
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>>336899507
You can't really have good input in this thread if you play a butchered version of the game where everyone uses controllers sorry
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>You now realize Roadhog ultimate is Bastion secondary weapon
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>>336899881
With less range and damage
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>>336899881
>You now realize Winston's ultimate is Reinhardt's primary weapon minus 35 damage
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>see Bastion enemy Bastion kicking some ass
>go Roadhog
>walk right through his line of figre
>Press Shift -> M1
>no more retarded robutt making my team butthurt

remember to do your part, Hoggers
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>>336890102
i wouldnt mind bastion if it wasnt for him getting potg 75% of the time

dont really care to watch another 4 people kill streak while turret
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>>336900251
most of these people probably can't hit the hooks on non-moving targets
happened to me twice yesterday, the guy left after trying
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>>336890170
>supports are boring

you are the cancer that infest every team shooter
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>>336900038
And recoil
Why the fuck are ultimates worse than other characters defaults is beyond me
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>>336890353
too much damage
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>>336887341
>play Shield hammer guy
>Some shitter healer heals only 3k
>I block 25k, do all the payload
>Healer gets all praise
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>marketing campaign has to include fast food in it to attract americans

lyl
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>>336887341
https://youtu.be/xCZRCjP5t3A

found you someone who can afk and still get spotlight over a bastion
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>>336887341
cool thanks I'll give it a go
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>>336889796
>I have a reading comprehension of a 5 year old Mexican
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>>336889168
>play of the game
>it's this fucking faggot every goddamn time
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>>336898468
>>336898547
why not both?
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>>336887341
>Wish you didn't need this "skill" thing?
Then play Overwatch!
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>>336900592
hahaha holy shit i didnt think they can get the spotlight at all

they need to make it so you have to be a certain height to get the spotlight
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am i the only one that hates hog more than bastion?
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>>336887341
Stop making me want to buy Overwatch.
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>playing Pharah
>unload my ulti onto a Bastion in minigun mode
>he just turns around, kills me and heals himself to full again

why is this allowed
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>>336900543
thing is that people don't actually pay attention to teammates at all. so they don't know who's being a credit to team and who's doing fuckall, so at the end they just vote healers cause they assume they are what help'd out the team the most. Everyone's too busy trying to rambo to notice otherwise
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>>336887341
mei is worse
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Listen here fuckboi. If you can't kill Bastion then its your own damn fault. He's not that hard to kill especially if you play with Junkrat, Pharah, Soldier 76, etc. Its all about catching them off guard and maintaining distance. Something tells me these are the same people I see playing Tracer, Edgy the death death, and HIGH NOON MAN, that keep trying to rush him from the front. He can even be taken down with D. Va outside the mech suit. Git gud.
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>>336900592
Full team of dwarfs is worse than a full team of bastions. Those turrets should not auto track you.
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>>336887503
You dont know where he is at until he shoots at you, if he has half of a brain he's going to sit in such a spot that once you enter his field of fire you wont be backing out alive.

Then he moves to a different spot. GL trying to "oneshot" him with a junkrat.

You people base your "counters" on the assumption that Bastion player is a retarded 12 yr old who never ever moves or that he's literally alone and doesnt have 4 teammates around him and a Mercy healing him 24/7.
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>>336901252
Yeah but it came up in stats, I basically pre-emp healed 25k where someone healed 3k
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>>336901767
>in a spot that once you enter his field of fire you won't be backing out alive
literally impossible unless you fucking jump off a ledge into his line of sight
as soon as you hear/see the first few shots you know where he is
and junkrat is a counter if he has all that shit protecting him, use your fucking shift bomb
pharah can disrupt them from long range if they're too far away from that
once he's isolated/disrupted just kill him
you people base your situations on the assumption that you're literally the only one who can fight him or that you don't have 5 other people who can shoot at him
git gud
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>>336887341
Bastion is a better/more skillful torbjörn though
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>>336901942
You will always ALWAYS block more than a healer can heal because your shield is fuckhueg and only a fraction of the shots it takes would actually have hit someone.
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Zarya was mad as fuck at me since I pushed her off 4 times during all 3 phases of the map.
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>>336902967
Dude your framerate
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>>336902990
Fuck knows why it dropped so much when recording with w10s game bar bullshit, it was fine in game.
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>salty fags that don't commend
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>>336887341
hahaha man, you clearly dont know what junkrat is
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>>336903705

Tbh famalamanignog I didn't even know you could commend and I've played for well over 24 hours.
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>>336887413
>See Bastion
>Press E
>When deflected he stops shooting
>Teleport behind him
>"Psst, nothing personnel"
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>PotG
>it's Bastion in a corner being pocketed by a Mercy or Junkrat sending his wheel into a loaded payload
Every time.
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>>336889585
Why not play Call Of Duty?
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What's with all this thread about Overwatch? I mean, yeah it's quite fun, but whenever I look at catalog there is 5 or 6 of them at the same time.
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>>336903890
At the end of the game, after the Play of the Game you can press the arrow next to the players to commend
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>>336891568
>>336900854
I dunno why you guys are so fucking mad about a slow skillshot ultimate making potg.
Its pretty much the purpose since Hanzo, Mercy and a few other characters cannot even think about potg otherwise.
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>>336887503
Roadhog is NOT a good counter to Bastion if Bastion is paying attention and positions well. Hog has to put himself in Bastion's line of fire and that minigun can shred his pork fat before he can even pop the hook.

Counters to Bastion
Pharah
Widow
Junk
Reaper
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>>336900854
>He didn't actually use his ult and is just really good

Who am I kidding? That never happens.
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>>336906746
>he doesnt use his ult
wow op shit kills everyone without ult nerf plz
>he uses his ult
wow op shit no place for shit mechanics like this in a fps
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>>336890440
Are you every Widow I see
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>>336905186
nah hanzo needs a diffrent ult, his shit goes threw 10 walls
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>Mfw all of these shitters cant counter 1 character in 21 and accuse the person that kills them over and over of being bad.
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Havent played it yet, do people have different base run speeds? Or is everyone the same and there is a sprint or something?
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>>336895585
>D.va
>good

Stop
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Can't aim? Want to help the team while pretending to have any skill at the game?
We have the hero for you
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>>336892965
Love doing that with Reinhardt. Too bad 80% of the time team just leaves me alone to push
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>>336887341
Roadhog hook him out of his stupid turret mode and fuck him with the WHOLE HOG!
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>he plays Overwatch
>but he doesn't play Dva

Explain yourself.
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>>336887341
>being unable to hit a stationary target
Sounds like someone needs to git gud.
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>Complaning about Bastion when Mei runs rampant in all games freezing my entire team
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>>336909418
>freezing
vs
>killing in less than half a second
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>>336901180
You are not supposed to play this game solo idiot. It is a TEAM-based shooter. Bastion is a tank- He has to be able to take down idiots like you who 1v1 him.
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>enemy team is thorbjorn stacking
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Imagine how fun this game would be if they did console vs PC
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>>336909418

When in doubt, build a wall
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The only complaint i have about Bastion is that the Play Of The Match is ridiculously biased for him.

> Bastion gets one kill in the entire match
> Other players actually get Triples while outplaying the other enemies

NOPE LOL PLAY OF THE MATCH TURRET-MODE THAT ENDS WITH BASTION DYING ANYWAY.

I know the Play of the Match feature is fucking retarded, but why even implement this if it is that shit?
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>Entire enemy team is Tracers
>Lose because we didn't have any healers
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Why is Tracer so worthless? You'd think the postergirl for Overwatch would at least be somewhat viable.

Hell, her ult should be a normal ability, it just doesn't make any sense.
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>>336912954
>>336912812
>ITT: scrubs
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>>336913039
>what is reading comprehension
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>>336896698
source?
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>>336898468

another retard that fell for the k-pop ruse
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>>336904356
I usually start healing if I'm not topped off or look for another target to cut down in the time it takes Genji's E to wear off. Ideally, someone else kills him from behind. If I'm not playing with friends though, that doesn't often happen.
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>>336913105
Scrub.

Did you comprehend?
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>>336912954

She's good if you play her correctly. Note that "correctly" usually means "not right smack dab in the middle of the action," since her kit is built around harassment rather than direct confrontation. You should ideally be zipping around picking off isolated characters or harassing the back line, not camping the objective or holding the front line.

From what I've heard she's actually pretty popular in high-level play.
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>>336914042
You still lack basic intelligence, good to know.

Tracer is shit and she will never see play in any serious match.
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>>336899881
>>336900038
Bastion can't move and doesn't knock people back, shitdisturbing even without a kill. He also has to actually aim, whereas Roadhog's ult is an auto-shotgun.

Basically, they're different weapons and you're salty. :^)
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>>336914234
>she's actually pretty popular in high-level play.
i honestly cant see anyone playing her, anything she can do, other characters can do better. mcree is better at picking off solo targets. the only thing tracer really has going for her is the boost, which isn't even that good.
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>>336900391
Honestly, I had a lot of trouble the first time I played Roadhog. Then my friend told me his hook is actually hitscan and it was a lot easier. I was trying to lead my shift and apparently that was a mistake.
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>>336914696

competitive play's standard meta is 2 tracer, 2 winston, 2 lucio
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>>336914876
>2 tracer
Extremely surprising
>2 Winston
He's probably the most mobile tank, I prefer Zarya
>2 lucio
Not surprising, in the slightest. Lucio is so good he makes the other supports completely worthless.
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>>336915072

Pro gamers will always favor mobility whenever possible, this is hardly a surprise.
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>tfw you like Lucio but realize his heals are ez mode since it's just an aoe centered on him
I'll stick with Zenyatta, at least I can kill people with my balls.
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Is Zenyatta shit at healing, or is every Zenyatta I see just shit?
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>>336915445

It's limited. You mostly pick zenyatta for damage and tank shredding
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>>336915445
You just have to be aware and juggle your balls around on teammates who need it. Unless you are pushing with a Reinhardt that is then keep it on his fat ass.
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>>336915539
Okay, that's what I would call "'shit at healing" then.
>>336915593
But it seems incredibly slow.
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>>336887341
> Enemy team has Bastion
> Every time he tries to have an easy match where he just sits down and mows my niggas, I come in with my RIP-tire
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>>336915658
It's pretty slow honestly, mostly I think the ball is for keeping on a tank or just doing touch up healing after a team fight.

Zenyatta excels at debuffing/harassment with the discord orb since it marks them for your team and the destruction orb since it's super accurate and does 45 damage to 67.5 damage per shot depending on if they are debuffed or not.
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you know I think D.va can work as a off tank flanker with one other character flanking with her

probably some one like genji or tracer

make it a habit of occasionally charging in with def matrix if under fire
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>>336889393
Indeed...
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>>336905186
>>336907321
Isn't that the point of him though? Fucking chokepoints up?
He's really good at the end and you need to fuck some shit up.
Widowmaker shines early game with her ult but it becomes useless near the end since you pretty much know where the fucking enemy is
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>>336888320
>Mcree is getting nerfed
As a tracer main this pleases me
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>>336915445
If you want to heal, you pick Mercy.
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>>336913337
Turn A Gundam.
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>>336888320
This is retarded because you can set it literally anywhere in seconds and mow them down in less than a second before they even see you as they pass through your LoS.

And due to massive health + insane healing abilities + insanely powerful gun, there's zero way you can die unless someone flanks behind you.
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>Bjork the Builder's turret does not require scrap to upgrade to level 2
>if an enemy enters its line of sight, it will snap to the target instantly and start firing
>if the target teleports or dashes it will snap to the new position and keep firing without missing a beat
>the only way to avoid getting hit is to break LOS or hide behind a shield, it will track you perfectly even at long range
>high rate of fire
>can kill a Tracer in three hits; will seriously hurt most characters incredibly quickly

At least Bastion is limited by what the player can actually see and doesn't have aimbot-tier reaction and precision.
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>tfw I just pick mccree
>le stun into fan the hammer face
>tfw pick tracer
>juke him and kill him or use three speed bursts into a bomb then recall

Bastion a shit unless he has a mercy with him at all times
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Which heroes are shitter if any?
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>>336887341
>dies to bastion every match
>rages
>doesnt realize he can 2-shot the robo bastard with reinhardt
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>>336919379
There is a range limit on it actually. I found that it's more than most corridors though.
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>>336916069
>mfw I just tear through rip-tires every time bc they're weak as fuck and loud
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>>336906284
Bastion won't die in one hit either. He'll die in two meatshots or three non-perfect shots, but that's enough time for him to re-enter turret mode and shred you or gun the remainder of your health down in scout mode.

Roadhog v Bastion is like 50-50 and it all depends on how much Bastion can do to Roadhog before getting pulled.
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>>336920049
I think the only nerf that Bastion could do with is reducing his rotation speed when in turret mode. At the moment he can still track you just fine even when you're touching him and running in circles.
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>shoot bastion thats camping with pharas missile
>duck behind a corner
>look back out
>its still there
>he thinks he can actually kill me
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then everybody goes bastion, what's the problem?
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>>336887341

>see bastion
>go widowmaker/hanzo
>VICTORY!

git gud you dumb pubposter.
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the first months of TF2 were filled with 'engi turrets are OP'

now they are shredded like candy because everyone got good
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>>336903705
I never recommend people from the enemy team, always teammates.
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