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Apologize.
IT'S TO LATE TO APOLOGIZE
>>336885408
Is it too late now to say sorry? Cuz I'm missing more than just powerstancing.
>>336885408
Sorry you have shit tastes
>>336885408
I found 3 to be a fucking chore to finish, and it's still infinitely superior to 2 gameplay wise
however, over time i have grown to appreciate the lore and world of 2 more and more, and i think i appreciate it more than the heavy nostalgic references of 3.
Sorry for making you buy this shit game for me, friend.
I played 2 for like 2 hours and just couldn't get into it. Changing up controls, jumping (first death), sliding down ladders (second death), for no fucking reason. Every room was a perfidious ambush. Picked the cleric to change things up and couldn't even one hand my starting weapon with starting stats. Running animation feels awkward with a delay followed by a burst coming from 1. Rolling timing is all sorts of fucked, constantly getting hit where I rolled from mid-roll.
The only redeeming moment I had was when the pursuer dropped down during that one part but of course you couldn't even fuck around with him because there's like 5 cunts that aggro once you get up there.
>>336885448
ITS TOO LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE
I liked 2.
>>336887528
So did I. I was pretty fun and felt like a low-key fantasy game, which is my jam.
>>336887528
2 is a good game. It just has shit level design. There is more to a game than level design
>>336885408
Even with all the problems 3 has, 2 is still shit in comparison.
>>336885408
I'm sorry Bamco assfucked your development. You could have wiped the floor with DaS's face if they gave you the time.
>>336885580
2's themes and characters really grew on me too once i had a little time to digest the game.
I'm hoping the inevitable dlc for 3 steps it up a notch, because as it stands there's not a whole lot that seems particularly memorable.
>>336887423
TOO LATE FOR APOLOGIES, NO
>>336885408
Dark Souls 2 had a lot of problems. Endless ganks, later levels were hallways, soul memory, no full red eye orb, lack of atmosphere, bear seek seek lest, the concept of cycles that shit on DS 1's sense of finality, endless knights.
Dark Souls 3 has completely different problems by having no poise, endless mimics, far too much pandering to the original, too linear, too few areas, lack of decent looking gear until lategame, no pvp arena, invading into ganks, bloodborne combat speed which made long swords top tier and areas that didn't feel distinct from the previous games.
The many flaws of the third game don't excuse the flaws of the second it just means From doesn't know what they're doing.
I don't apologize to garbage.
u stupid nigger.
literally 3 is god incarnate compared to this literal piece of crap famamamam
Nah it's shit. I had a batman build the first time around and had a good time but when I tried to actually play with weapons it felt like shit. The bosses were boring, the enemies were boring, the locales were boring (except for the tomb area), everything was just less than mediocre without my batman shit.
>>336888104
/v/ is going to go full GTAIV with this game in less than a year.
>>336888115
>has the same glaring flaws 2 had
>it's perfect because it's okay when Miya-chanchan does it.
>>336888136
>I had a batman build
What...?
>>336888184
>less than a year
It already started long ago m8. Contrarians gonna contrary?
>>336888258
It's the average anti-DS2 poster, nothing new
>>336885408
I'm sorry you were such a shit and forgettable game. I seriously cannot remember any boss from DS2, except Ornstein.
>>336888484
>I have memory problems
Doesn't look like the game's fault.
ds2: bone fist
ds3: no bone fist
qed 2>3
>>336888170
I big change in art direction. I much prefer the old design with the lush trees but I suppose they decided the vibrancy clashed with the story and atmosphere a bit.
I also think the water looked better in the before. Realistic water is really tricky to get right. Even when it looks good and it's never quite convincing. Much better for water to lean towards a more artistic appearance than a realistic one.
>>336885408
But I didn't make DaS II, why should I apologize for it?
>>336888570
It looks more like the original design would tank the frame rate on consoles so they scaled it down.
>>336888104
My game looks like the left. Is right how it looks on consoles?
>play dark souls 2
>get invaded by 2 players within 1 minute
>they spam pyromancies and sorceries at me while i'm being attacked by 3 gardening gnomes who do more damage and have more poise than most bosses
And there's 4 of these fucking area's
>>336889859
Are you complaining about being invaded at Bells?
>>336888258
Basically just llewyns set,dragonrider gauntlets, and velkas mask
Used the vanquisher's seal to beat the shit out of everything
Though at the beginning I was using +10 caestus and items like firebombs, lightning bombs, magic urns etc. Used the hard leather set up until I got my batman shit. It was a ton of fun my man.
>>336889626
Your game doesn't look like the left, even Scholar doesn't have the lighting engine fully restored.
>>336890043
The only fun I had from that game was the SL1 run, though it wasn't that challenging with the mace being OP as fuck.
>>336889894
Yes, the boss fight was easy but getting there is hard when you have to pull a lever to enter it and you're getting invaded by multiple sorcery faggots constantly.
>climb this 15-second long ladder to pull a lever.
>get one-shot by crystal arrow when either trying to get up or down, or get 2v1'd eventually while trying to fight a higher level,more experienced cheeser
I only remember just now why I have so much salt for ds2
Is SotFS like DaS 3 where if you level health up first it becomes a cakewalk?
>>336890336
all Souls games are like that
>>336890336
No, it's where if you level your straightsword up first and have bleed on that fucker, it becomes a cakewalk
>>336890189
I prefer the endless bellends over the farron covenant trying to do the same thing but not working at all.
>>336887528
I still do.
>>336890336
Not quite. High VIG obviously helps a lot but healing in DaS 2 is a lot slower. Taking a sippy takes fucking forever and Lifegems heal you slowly.
High VIG in DaS 3 combines with quick sippy and fast health regen makes it easy.
I tried giving this game another fair chance with SotFS after I tried it on release (after much hype and disappointment).
This game is so FUCKING ugly I can't get over it. The animations are awful, the world is awful. The bosses are horribly easy and not memorable at all. Monsters skate around the terrain like a PS2 game.
You can just tell it was not Miyazaki's team at all without prior knowledge of that. What were they thinking?
How can anyone defend DaS2? Jesus Christ. What a terrible game. It is a downgrade from its previous game in every regard. How is that possible? Makes me sad every time.
>>336890336
In DaS2 estus and healing in general is slower.
Having a huge HP pool is good so you don't get oneshotted.
But after that you better time your healing right or you will still die.
>>336891052
>How can anyone defend DaS2?
The only bad thing about its expansions is that you have to play most of the main game to get to them.
This little shit should be blacklisted from the industry.
>>336891004
I am walking around with max armor and low vig.
Armor and resists in DaS2 are so much better than DaS3s armor and resists.
3 is better than 2
>>336891402
Who the fuck is he?
>>336891559
Yui Tanimura, the last director.
>>336891402
Who that?If this is the game director for two i think he should get a medal for being brave enough to innovate the series.
All those new mechanics.
New locals.
The priority on optimization over shiny turd graphics.
This man is my hero.
>>336891657
He was brave alright, shipping that turd for 60 bucks.
>>336891605
>i know nothing
Tanimura salvaged what he could of DaS2. You're thinking Shibuya, who is garbage.
>>336891737
Salvaged what? The game is bad through and through. You know you shit the bed when the highlight of your game is fucking UI improvements.
>>336891737
There's also institutional failure to take into account, Japanese business culture has a tradition of making one manager the fall guy for an entire project. Not that Shibuya didn't drop the ball in a major way himself, but it's something to consider.
>>336885408
DS2 is still shit
>>336887961
Underrated post.
>>336885408
No, I still like Dark Souls 2 and won't apologize for it.
>>336891052
>The animations are awful
Are you on crack? DaS 3 had miles better animation quality and variety.
Is it true that bleed is actually good in ds3?
Keep thinking back at bleed in ds2 that did fuck-all.
>>336885408
Why do you make this thread everyday? Everyone keeps telling you to fuck off
>>336887961
Are those back in DaS3?
>>336885408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJhPLGMhRuQ
>>336891998
I'm talking about DaS2...
>>336891420
Boss attacks are mostly capped to a % of your max health in Dark Souls 2. Running low max health in Dark Souls 1 is also quite effective because of this. You'd get better results with no armor though, as it does nothing to reduce the damage of late-game and DLC bosses but hinders your roll distance.
>>336892003
No.
>Keep thinking back at bleed in ds2 that did fuck-all.
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/bleed
It did plenty when used properly.
>>336892204
Fuck I meant DaS 2.
This argument seems pointless now.
![crdyDX6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sqrvDoO.jpg "crdyDX6[1].jpg")
>>336891834
Shibuya was in charge for most of the development. He never worked on vidya before, his qualifications being directing some kind of lighting engine. He had a retarded dev method which entailed working on everything at once, meaning all the locales, the UI, the weapons, etc. When he was late and had nothing complete to show for his efforts, From shitcanned him and put veteran director Tanimura on it, where he replaced the giants' faces with anuses because this isn't WoW (pic related) and cobbled everything together best he could to ship a workable game before it became another Duke Nukem Forever. He was in charge for the whole development of the expansions, which really shows.
>>336892278
Meant for PVE, taking max hp from hard enemies sounds neat.
>>336891052
DaS2 had better pvp than the other games through more build variety and dedicated pvp arenas. It's the one defining aspect 3 lacks.
flash back to DaS2 release
>hype as fuck for game until the few weeks before it came out when the graphics were revealed bullshit
>buy it anyways in good hope on ps3 that it won't be steaming dog shit
>it is
>SotFS comes out, get it on PC
>roll a STR character
>huh this isn't that bad, kinda shit though
>drop the game again
>come back after playing bloodborne, to hype myself up for DS3
>run Dex Pyro. having a blast with the game. power stance is great, pyromancy is fun and powerful. Have some fun multiplayer moments
>DS3 comes out, buy it a month after release
>runs like hot fucking shit on my rig, spend more time recovering from crashes than actually playing the game
>crashed 6 times trying to get back to Pontiff Sulyvahn
>missing power stance and low soul level up requirements
>practically forced to go back to DS2 with all these fucking crashes because no money to upgrade for a long while
now im confused if im happy or sad about practically being forced to play DS2 for my fix.
>>336885408
I was just merely pretending! Pls forgive
>>336892003
bleed is awful in every souls game
in das1 and 3 you can literally roll through the damage and its not even some hard tech
>>336892374
only good for a few enemies like hand giants and a few bosses
>>336892563
>bleed is awful in every souls game
>It will also reduce the maximum stamina of the target to 75% for 5 to 10 seconds.
It can be pretty good against people with low poise.
1/4 less stamina for 10 seconds can be deadly in PvP.
>>336892563
All statuses are bad in PvP. Magic buffs are the only good thing you can do to the weapons.
>>336892290
>directing some kind of lighting engine
To be fair the prerelease lighting did look very nice.
>>336892737
>All statuses are bad in PvP
Said no one ever.
I am rolling with a bleed/poison flamberge kicking ass in PvP.
>>336885408
>Apologize.
What for?
>>336892290
good informative post thx
>>336887763
It had other problems too, the PvP was almost unplayable(Significantly worse then dks3) because of the insane phantom hits(Happened more often and worse than dks or dks3) and hackers everywhere. Also soul memory was a problem and it had a couple other fairly major flaws, mostly revolving around balance.
That being said, it did have some nice stuff that didn't make it to dks3, like soul vessels, bonfire aesthetics(should just respawn boss though and make it give less souls(to stop soul farming and your NG+'s getting fucked)) and power stancing.(though some combo's were complete cancer like warped blade and washing pole)
>>336885408
Apologize for what, you retard?
>>336892035
yes
all 3
>>336885408
I'm sorry the A-teams worst effort was better than you
>>336897562
>lost izalith and crystal caves better than Brume Tower
Ayy
>>336897639
Brume tower sure was nice for the first five minutes until you actually get inside. Then the level design goes down the shitter and the enemy design is weak as fuck
>>336897639
>the two worst parts of this game are worse than one of the best parts of this other game
>>336885408
I doubt DS2 devs browse /v/
>>336897951
That disproves exactly what the post was about. The A-team's worst effort was indeed not better than DaS2.
>>336897902
That's about more than can be said about the dragon anuses or moonlight butterflies/crystal golem/clam rehash.
>>336898075
>The A-team's worst effort was indeed not better than DaS2.
I was saying that Dks3 is still better than Dks2
>>336898193
DaS3 is both A and B team, though.
>>336888197
>same glaring flaws 2 had
>no adp
>hitboxes are not fucked
>some bosses and areas are actually good
>>336888548
demon fist > bone fist
>>336898337
I was talking about level design
>gankfests up the wazoo
>bonfire warping off the bat
Otherwise you could talk about how the firekeeper requires twice as much BEAR SEEK SEEK LEST shenanigans in order to level up, or the enemies that will chaincombo your face like stamina doesn't exist if you dare raise a shield in their general direction (or not, see if they care).
I know they're gimmicky and weak but I really miss the DaS2 twinblades.
And forcing your left hand to block even when carrying a sword in it is just retarded.
>>336898575
There is very few ganks in the game that you can't pull the enemies individually.
>>336898867
There are no ganks where you can't pick off the enemies one by one, doesn't mean it's acceptable or well thought through.
>>336898942
And having singular enemies is somehow more well thought out?
>>336885408
Sorry you were so shit wish you were more fun DaS3 is a blast though.
>>336886057
The jump controls change did have a reason: with the old controls if you were running and then tried to roll you would get a jump. You could argue this was actually a good thing since it forced you to pay more attention when trying to run past enemies, but it wasn't without reason.
The ladder change kinda makes sense too since it lets you drop down faster (like if you started climbing and an enemy snuck up on you).
>>336898275
This room must've been their contribution then
>>336899559
what's wrong with that room? It was a neat hidden challenge with some good loot and a covenant, what's not to like here? You can even choose to pull one of the monsters with a bow, should the task of fighting two at once be too much for you.
>>336899559
One side area where you fight two minibosses?
>>336899754
You don't even have to use a bow.
>>336899867
huh, I've always just pulled one of them with a bow. The real challenge stemmed from the constant invasions anywho, it was almost like there was a timelimit on the fight before additional enemy invaders showed up. Real neat imho.
>>336899347
Yes. See Severance: Blade of Darkness.
>>336885408
I'm thinking of getting into the Soulsborne games. Is there any point to starting off with Demon's Souls even though it's standalone? Can I get into Dark Souls 3 immediately or does gaming experience somehow benefit significantly from having played the previous two series installments?
>>336899429
I'm not sure if this was the case in 2, but in 1 if you run with your shield up, you won't jump.
I'm kinda annoyed that this was removed from 3. I hate pressing the stick to jump, and thus the first thing I did was changing it back to circle, but that makes it impossible to instantly roll when running.
I always liked Dark Souls 2. Not more than the other souls games but I still liked it. Dark Souls 3's PvP has brought things into perspective for me though.
>fix hitboxes
>no soul memory. no weapon matchmaking like in 3. just dark souls 1 matchmaking
>give back red and blue eye orbs unbroken
>no durability bug
>no downgrade
>no infinite poise and stamina enemies
boom the game is now arguably better than dark souls 1.
>>336900245
you should probably play them in release order so you dont get used to game mechanics or conveniences from later games and then miss them in earlier ones
>>336887528
2 is my favorite, friend
>>336900395
that...is pretty alright. i would feel not mad about buying that like i did when i bought DaS2 on release
>>336900047
>Severance: Blade of Darkness
>those game mechanics
>that combat
>that soundtrack
>that level design
>that gore engine
>those shadows
>the year is 2001
We are never getting Severance:BoD 2 are we?
Do people play these games for the PvP? I don't think I ever touched the multiplayer feature in any of them.
>>336900395
Red eye orb is in 3.
Agree about blue eye orb.
>>336900517
This.
Storywise there are some elements from Demon's Souls scattered in Dark Souls.
Dark Souls 2 is stand-alone, and Dark souls 3 borrows heavily from Dark Souls.
>>336897127
Weren't there 4 in DaS2?
>>336900918
I was talking about 2. there was no infinite red/blue eye orb in 2
>>336900976
You can infinitely kill people in the red arena you know.
>>336900875
I like helping people out as a phantom, and the odd invasion now and then spices things up.
It's kinda shitty when you get invaded by some naked guy flipping around and hitting you with some kind of PvP build, but whatever.
I wish there was some kind of system to put PvP players only with other PvP players.
game had the perfect caestus.
Dark souls 3 has the worst.
It's a good game tbqh, feels like a true sequel to DaS
>>336901102
>they nerfed the Vanquisher Seal
I will never not be mad.
DS2 will always trump the other games due to sheer build variety. If there's a "sequel" to dark souls 2 with the same devs, they should exclusively focus on builds and weapon/spell options. Just make a fucking PVP game actually.
>>336901172
that was just a buff, id be ok with dark souls 3 if it had some of the power of ds2 caestus.
>>336901045
thats not invasions. its not the same. no thrill of facing off against phantoms and using the environment to your advantage
>>336901217
Yeah man they shud just make a dark souls moba too lmao xD that would be hella epicc xDD
Fucking pc cancer race
>>336901217
art team from ds1, gameplay mechanics from ds2.
That's all they need to do.
>>336901541
what the hell is a moba?
isn't that where sonic lived?
Why the hell is sonic pc master race, Well I suppose sonic cd was pc but really what the fuck does sonic have to do with dark souls
b-but I actually enjoy this game maybe even more than DaS3..
>>336897127
theres 5
>>336885408_____________No
>>336901541
I'm not talking about a sequel to dark souls 3 though. I mean they should just make a spin off with dark souls 2's priorities because they're shit at everything else except what I listed in the previous post. They should also make bosses DESIGNED for multiple people to take on.
>>336901492
You can kill them infinitely for an infinite supply of cracked red orbs you dunce.
>>336885408
I thought they did apologize though? I remember reading interview with Tanimura where he was explaining what went wrong and shit
>iron keep in ng+
Am I the only person that was driven insane by this?
>>336901990
did you use arrows?
>>336885408
No need to, I always liked 2 and was disappointed that people shat on it so much. It's definitely one of the weakest in the series and was kind of disappointing at first but I've still always liked it.
>>336901810
Are you seriously defending no red eye orb in DaS2? What the fuck? What's with all those DaS2 apologists crawling out of woodwork lately?
>>336901990
FUCK that double greathammer guy just before the last bonfire. I only managed to beat him by kicking him off the ladder. At least in SotFS you could trick him into walking into the flamethrower and get him roasted.
I really enjoyed aspects of DaSII I loved the lore, the build variety, the PvP and some of the areas really stuck with me.
Its shame the bosses were trash and alot of the most basic things that the first one excelled at were tossed.
Then you have DaSIII which polished some aspects of the first game to a sheen, but threw away all the good shit 2 did.
>>336885408
You were a decent game, sorry your developers held you back with shitty choices.
>>336902113
Not him but I fucking love 2 and still think no permanent orbs was stupid. Just make them harder to obtain if they wanted to make covenants mean something. Getting the full Red Orb in 3 was ridiculously easy, I was wondering if I'd just imagined it after I got it about 3 hours in.
>>336902113
I'd rather PvP and test my build in the arena to get cracked red eye orbs.
In 3 i will have less HP, i will have a weapon that may be weaker than the hosts weapon, i will be facing a host with 3 phantoms and instant estus.
>>336902304
There were nothing but sl838 unbeatable meta shitters in the arena, it was absolute cancer.
>>336885408
But third part is the best one. It took three attempts for Miyazaki to create his ideal dark souls.
>>336902589
There are a lot of those, yes.
But there are normal people fighting as well.
Also getting the drop on one of those sl838 unbeatable meta shitters is an awesome feeling.
>>336902113
>What's with all those DaS2 apologists crawling out of woodwork lately?
People bought into the hype so hard (The Souls series is AAA now and attract that kind of fanbase) that they can't admit fault.
It did do some things right, but everything that makes the series special, it fucked up.
