What would you do to fix Overwatch?
I'd go with
>Reinhardt hammer damage to 100
>Pharah + Soldier 76 health to 250
>Bastion 1 second of wind up time, allow winding up with alt fire but winding up is loud
>Mei health to 200
>Mercy pistol fire rate doubled, reload while put away
>Zenyatta health to 200
>Tracer leaves a tracer when she recalls the same way she does when she blinks
>Widowmaker zip line countdown halved to 6
>Junkrat and Pharah explosions from primary fire do more damage to themselves but push them farther
>D.V.a headshot damage reduced so she can actually go toe to toe with people
>Winston's barrier lasts until it's destroyed instead of disappearing after 5 seconds
>>336875018
Remove ults.
I'd make it so the objective is to not kill your enemies.
Give the characters more personality beyond "I am this stereotype" or "I am this race" or "I am this meme"
Free to play
>Mercy pistol fire rate doubled, reload while put away
That would make it far too strong. The pistol already melts health so long as you can keep the reticule on the opponent. It's supposed to be her last ditch, oh shit I got caught out of position and there's no one around to lshift to weapon.
>>336876915
why does every games need to be free today? when the fuck does this meme started?
>>336876915
blizzard has such massive balls trying to charge full price for this game, it's multiplayer only with like two/three maybe gamemodes and a handful of maps that all play the exact same
>>336876989
>when the fuck does this meme started?
Poorfags and Children who cannot afford what they want because they are too lazy to strive for money.
>>336875018
Send out a physical automated dildo machine with every game
You have to shove the dildo in your ass / vagina in order to start the game
Depending on your performance the dildo machine will start working
For example the weakest player or the player with the shittiest playing style will have a rapidly working dildo in their ass and they will be eliminated from the game because of the forced prostate or vaginal orgasms
It will both improve players gaming capability and its pure fun and joy
I can goon with how to improve this mechanism but you get the general idea
>>336877150
>Not caring about money is lazy
When the fuck does this meme started?
>>336876915
>wanting the taunt party crowd with hats to infest Overwatch
Honestly? Find a way to make close quarters not a cluster fuck. Being in a tight ass room is the most confusing thing ever. Different character sizes, bad first person melee, particles fucking everywhere makes me just want to hang back as a Sniper archetype 24/7.
>>336877030
>full price
do you hear yourself it is literally $40
If soldier 76 had 250 health I wouldn't die. My average deaths are 4, with 16 finishes and 27 eliminations.
What will likes do in the full game?
>>336877030
It isnt full price you mong.
>>336877342
This. Its a fucking mess.
>>336877030
Did you come from 2002? Multiplayer games give just as much playtime as singleplayer games nowadays. Stop whining and moaning that there isn't a "campaign" for no goddamn reason other than it's some supposed requirement that came down from the heavens.
>>336875018
I'd scrap it, Blizzard should just move onto Warcraft 4 and not appeal to TF2 and MOBA fanboys.
>>336877284
If you're going to complain about money while shitposting on an anonymous image board, you don't have your priorities straight.
>Reaper teleport teleport speed tripled
>Genji alt-fire now shoots shurikens into a predictable triangle pattern instead
And I'll be happy.
>>336875018
Everything you just said and:
>Soldier 76's heal only is a stim for himself (waaay to much team synergy while being a monster himself)
>Reduce McCree's flashbang radius to require near direct hits (the range on this makes me laugh hard when bad mccree's actually miss it)
>Increase McCree's reload speed (his roll is for fast reloads, he should aim his shots more rather than spam altfire all day)
>Let Pharah cancel her ult by right-clicking (it doesn't need to last as long as it does half the time, and would make me use it more as currently I know I'm dead the moment I use it)
>Hanzo ult moves faster & lasts 1-2s longer (it's such a mediocre ult except for getting peeps off a point for 3s)
>Torbjorn gets some weapon damage falloff with primary (it almost feels like a midrange sniper...)
>D.Va can fire main cannons while boosting (she can already boost and defense matrix, why not let her shoot some too.)
>Increase the projectile speed slightly of Symettra's photon orbs (aside from her teleporter and 6 turrets jammed on a wall, she feels kinda lackluster in midrange fights)
>Make more game modes that isn't just attack/hold a singular location. I don't care if some heroes have less use in these modes, on attack I rarely pick symmetra or torb, why not the same for a CTF where I may wanna pick speedy chars more or a team comp just needs to have at least 1-2 flag runners?
>With above, make more varied maps with more open routes, and/or add some side objectives to maps. The current gameplay feels stale, despite the hero roster.
>>336875018
>remove bastion
fixed.
F2P
>>336875018
>decrease Bastion turret and explosives damage
>decrease Soldier 76 weapon and ulti damage
>decrease Junkrat weapon damage
Thats pretty much it I guess.
Those characters are way too fucking OP and easy to kill with.
People who want F2p are underageb& who are mad they have to wait until Christmas for Overwatch.
Give bastion a wind up time and reduce the turret's accuracy.
>>336878361
blizzdrone detected
>>336878515
Look at you, it's Saturday! Guess you get to stay up and shitpost, Kiddo.
>>336875018
i am not sure its fixable, there so much thing went wrong :
>Sniper class can kill anything in SHORT range
>Bastion has 0.4 sec to deploy and run again
>some ulti is really shitty and not worth the use, other is OP as fuck
>demolition class near useless. the shockwave damage barely existant
>4 Bastion or Dva is enough to win in some map
>bjorn scrap is useless and make you question their game design
9.99 Price Tag because that's all it's worth. Particularly after they mentioned the whole
>No CTF because Tracer
Bullshit.
>>336875018
>Bastion 1 second of wind up time, allow winding up with alt fire but winding up is loud
I don't think you realize how long 1 second can be.
Up the damage of lucio's gun or reduce cooldown on his right click
Zenyatta health to 200 or give him a copy of his harmony orb if it's on a teammate.
>>336877562
>Blizzard wastes a billion dollars making these extensive videos explaining lore and giving Tracer glossy apricot lip gloss.
>They won't just give a campaign mode that'd actually be more fun than teamstack and stomp: the game
>WELL GUYS IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT THE PRICE TAG MEANS THE RUSKIES AND BRs-
Stop
Just stop.
Dark Souls 3 was MORE expensive in BRville and Ruskieland and STILL it was filled to the fucking brim with those absolute fucking niggerscum
Stop peddling this absolute bullshit in an attempt to justify the outrageous pricetag for this pile of hot garbage.
please increase the range of zarya's laser. Shit's weak and requires the person to be 5 feet away. I want to beam phara's out of the sky.
>>336878228
>Decrease those
>Everyone just picks Roadhog because he's high health and high damage :^)
Just play TF2 instead, higher skill cap
>>336875018
I played 2 hours, 1 hour only with Mercy. She needs way more fire power. If not she will be always a weak bitch for god sake.
>>336878931
Her laser does too much damage at full charge for that. If you want better range, you have to trade is off with something like a charge decay.
>>336879197
See
>>336879005
In that you are not just a weakass healslut who is useless for anything other than nursing your teammates.
Or play Lucio
>>336877390
>>336877537
It's 60NZD which is the same price I got Dark Souls III for from GMG. From what I've played of the beta it's nowhere near worth the price tag, I'd rather pick up Rainbow Six Siege or something. Ratchet and Clank is already out, I might get that or Uncharted 4 or something with today's paycheck.
>make it free to play
suddenly the balance issues doesn't seem so egregious
increse dva mech damage
when you're literally right next to them the amount of damage you do is shit compared to a lot of heroes
like it's supposed to be a shotgun spread, so it should be killer up close
>>336879197
>Mercy will never step on your dick
Why live
>Large list of wanted changes
>Never ever anything for Genji
Genji is perfect Genji is pure.
>>336878737
Snipers are easy as hell to deal with short range.
I'd only say a couple of the ults are useless. Like DVa's except when you can call down her mech after its already been destroyed.
>demolition is useless
Nigga what? Junk rat is fucking great.
You're pretty right about everything else.
>>336879624
Weebshit characters and DVA are useless.
They don't need changes. Nerfs on the OP shit need to fall on the OP shit
>>336878742
Why can't they just make it so you can't blink as tracer when you have the flag, otherwise you drop it.
>>336877634
>they should appeal to the nonexistent fanbase of a dead genre that survived for too long in the first place
Nice try old man.
>>336879751
Because it's not like she moves THAT MUCH FASTER than everyone else without her blink.
Without Blink and Rewind, she's just a shitty smg scout that's perfect Roadhog hook-fodder
>>336879472
Nobody cares about your country.
>>336879802
They are the ones who actively killed the genre with shit like Starcraft
Add a delay to Pharah and Mei's ults before they actually start firing, so the enemy team can properly react.
>>336879812
Okay, so why am I not getting CTF?
>>336876860
desu tho, Overwatch feels less objective based and more shitty team deathmatch half the time
It'd be nice if the gamemodes weren't just take-and-hold or payload, or the maps had more points in them
>>336875018
change maps to not be chokehold.game
>>336879520
>You will never going to slap that ass to punish her for being a weak slut.
I try a little ERP with my girlfriend. But is useless
>>336875018
Add Zenyatta being able to hold his charge attack indefinitely.
>>336875018
>>Reinhardt hammer damage to 100
>>Pharah + Soldier 76 health to 250
seems fine as is
>>Bastion 1 second of wind up time, allow winding up with alt fire but winding up is loud
a wind up combined with a slower swivel rate in turret mode imo
>Mei health to 200
it's her infinity slows that are the unfun bitch to play against with uncordinated teams
>Mercy pistol fire rate doubled, reload while put away
it already reloads if it's been away long enough
>Zenyatta health to 200
don't see a problem with her
>Tracer leaves a tracer when she recalls the same way she does when she blinks
sounds good
>Widowmaker zip line countdown halved to 6
yepyep do it
>Junkrat and Pharah explosions from primary fire do more damage to themselves but push them farther
could take it or leave it. they're already pretty mobile with their buttons. landmine is short as fuck, the right maps and enough freedom from enemy fire and you can have rocket jump up by the time you're done hovering
>D.V.a headshot damage reduced so she can actually go toe to toe with people
like, in mech form? it has a head?
>Winston's barrier lasts until it's destroyed instead of disappearing after 5 seconds
seems good
>>336878737
>>bjorn scrap is useless and make you question their game design
not knowing what armor does: the post
>>336880152
>Zenyatta
>her
Is this a new meme?
>>336879883
Mei's ult has a travel time based on how far she's throwing it. What more could you possibly need? If you let her point blank it, you deserve what you get as she has no mobility options.
>>336879883
>nerfing pharah's ults even more
Holy shit just shoot her. She'll die in 2-3 shots.
>>336880132
Wanna try ERP without your girlfriend?
>>336880468
>crotch hair
Sweet Jesus Lord Almighty give me a sign.Towards that uncensored sauce.
>>336880452
The tiny bot is near invisible and as soon as it lands, you get slowed to 0%. It needs an indicator before it starts firing or the slow needs to not be as potent.
>>336880462
So will you, and if she uses it above you, you won't have time to react and shoot her those 2-3 times before you're already dead since her ult is already half over by the time she starts saying JUSTICE.
>no popular streamer wants to even play that shit
>lmao they think the drones will buy it then for 60$
>cosmetics are shit only the epic skins are somewhat good
not to mention that the gameplay is like in smite with a ranged god
>>336880563
>It needs an indicator before it starts firing or the slow needs to not be as potent.
Not when a large portion of the roster has mobility options to ignore the slow and avoid the freeze.
>>336880468
Than you but I barely write in english. Spanish is my first language so I don't want to destroy the moment with my lack of vocabulary
>>336880906
Thank you Jesus.
>>336880906
You're a good man
![mercy[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/wOd13cl.png "mercy[1].png")
MERCY AS PRIEST HERO POTRAIT WHEN
Pig man ultra attack kills never
Remove knock back
>>336880941
In his name we pray.
>>336876915
No thanks.
>>336880906
Youre a better man than I.
Genji deflect one second shorter
>>336881108
enjoy your entitled cunt community, well i guess its bad no matter if f2p or not
>>336881175
Enjoy being poor.
Or Brazilian
Whatever's worse.
>>336879970
gee golly it's as if to do the objectives you have to kill the other team
>>336881175
Go back to being broke and keep your filth out of a good game.
Lets build a wall, a fucking pay wall.
Give Pharah more health. 250 maybe?
Make Hanzo's basic attack, charge time slower because right now they do a fucking shit tonne of damage and it takes him like half a second to get a full charge. Hanzo is a spammer of arrows, not a precision shooter.
Road Hog needs to not have such fucking ridiculous damage, he can literally one shot anyone with 200 HP and it's really not hard to hit your chains. His heal is potent too. His overall cooldowns are low.
Lower the damage on Junkrat's Ultimate. Lower the AoE blast from them, or lower the general attack speed. It's just spam everything and ruin people.
>>336881170
Fuck you, it would make him useless against bastion.
>>336881252
fun fact if theres a p2w br in any game hes most likely drug releated
>>336881448
I meant the cooldown, my mistake.
>>336875018
>>336875018
at the moment, the only thing I would change is:
>D.va: Either buff damage range or reduce her crit box
>Mercy: Increase time before Ult takes effect
>Widow: Either increase charge time or increase time to zoom and unzoom
>>336880634
you're a complete shitter if you think pharah's ult needs any type of nerf, it's already well balanced
>>336881505
Yeah sure, that's fine.
He could do with a bit of fine-tuning
>Boost the ultimate damage a bit
>Adjust cooldowns
But honestly I'm pretty fine with him as he is.
Most balanced character along with Soldier.
>>336881373
Pharah's health is fine considering how crazy mobile she is. All your other ideas are good though
>>336881605
>boost ult damage
????????????????????????????
>>336878901
what? You can get DaS3 for pretty cheap (35 EUR or less if you're lucky)
You stop.
>>336881663
Like from 120 to 130 or increase the swing speed a bit.
Just really little itty bitty changes.
>>336881605
Yeah he's mostly fine, but countless times I've died with 1 second left on deflect.
I suppose that's my own fault.
Also is Mei isn't changed QUICK I don't think I'll buy the game.
>>336881912
the thing about Mei isn't that she's unbalanced, she's actually perfectly balanced. She's just anti-fun when placed against. Her entire tool kit is built around stopping or denying people
>>336881996
I never called her OP or anything, she's not. She's just fucking frustrating. I'm fucking 23 and have never gotten this mad at a game as I am when against Mei.
Let D. Va use the cannons while shielding, or let the shield convert damage into health.
Increase scatter slightly on Bastion's turret mode so that it's less effective at range.
>>336876970
>The pistol already melts health so long as you can keep the reticule on the opponent.
This works with D. Va's pistol, not with Mercy's. The travel rate on her shots are too slow, you have to lead them a bit.
Remove ultimates.
>>336882137
Mercys pistol is fantastic. Melts hp
Let Torb upgrade a level 1 turret to 3 with his ult. It'd make him not completely useless on Attack payload maps.
>>336882194
alright kid
>>336881583
She actually needs a slight buff in health maybe.
She always dies from trying to use her ult, unless there's already a shit ton of pressure, and therefore not as game changing. maybe a slight shield when she does it.
>>336876915
Fuck off mudslime. Free to play attracts the worst type of people.
Not sure but is there a moreb raindead ultimate to use than Hanzo's? Literally fire and get your 5 kill streak off it, way too easy
>>336882403
Move. He announces it. It has startup. There's even a period of time that when it first appears it does no damage. Move.
>>336882403
>>336881373
Junkrat isnt that great though, if anything buff tracers ult, that shit should kill a stuck roadhog
>>336879197
>character design(s) you really like
>stuck in a game you don't like
Life is pain
>>336882117
>>336882117
Yeah, I get that. Hence anti-fun. She's just so god damn annoying to play against
>>336882403
Hanzo should have the slowest ult charge rate in the game. I don't have a problem with his ult as is, but he ought to only be able to use it when he thinks it'll really change the match.
Also if it's true that Genji can deflect it, remove that shit. This isn't Metal Gear Rising, I don't care if you have the legendary dragon sword you shouldn't be able to redirect a fucking spirit dragon with your sword.
>>336875018
These are all terrible.
How I would make it objectively better:
>Bastion's minigun moves way slower than mouse movement and also does less damage OR is less accurate
>increase tickrate
>remove autoaimed skills (McCree, Soldier 76, Winston's lightning gun, Symmetra's laser)
>lower the damage output or make players have twice the health they have now
>lower Mercys healing rate
>>336882612
I know he cant redirect lasers of any kind so i dont know why he would be able to reflect it.
>>336882612
Why not that's hype as fuck and sounds like a good counter play
>>336875018
D.va's hitbox needs to be changed and she needs a way to shoot and move. She can't stand toe to toe with anyone in a 1v1 and so she relies completely on low damage hit n' run tactics and zoning. You can't even properly catch people out because your move speed is reduced by half when you start firing, most players will kite you around corners and god forbid the enemy team has a Hanzo or Mei.
>>336882614
Jesus Christ talk about awful changes
>>336882734
she can definitely 1v1 people it just requires you to shield and fly right into their faces first.
Was this a mistake?
>>336882614
Mercy's healing rate is fine. It's largely the only reason to pick her over Lucio, and if the past few threads are any indication there are plenty of people who don't even think that justifies it.
>>336879472
>buy some consolecuck game
>120NZD
yeah 60 for a game is still half price you monogloid faggot
>>336882797
getting the $60 meme version was
>>336882797
>game releases on my birthday
Where's my free copy Blizzard?
>>336882797
>Getting the Origins edition instead of the one that's $20 cheaper
Yeah
>>336882612
Genji can't deflect the dragon. Before the dragon appears Hanzo fires an arrow that slowly travels and then eventually blows up into the dragon, Genji can deflect that arrow, not the dragon itself. This does result in Genji creating a dragon of his own, but if Hanzo is ulting you point blank he's fucked up already because the dragon is just going to appear behind you anyway.
>>336882734
She's not supposed to 1v1 people she isn't a duelist. You use her mobility to get to an advantaged position then annoy the enemies to force them to focus you so your team can make plays. If you get mech killed you should have an escape plan. Otherwise shift boost out or ult
>>336882612
But he can't counter the spirits, only the initial arrow.
Just don't ult when Genji is up your fucking face.
>>336882862
>not buying the $60 version on g2a for $40
>>336882612
you don't reflect the dragon. But you can reflect the arrow that's shot before it turns into a Dragon. Same with Zarya and Mei's alt. All 3 shoot/throw a projectile which turns into the ultimate after a beat. If you reflect it before the ult proper activates, they'll get hit with the alt
D.va can also destroy them before they activate with her defense matrix
>>336882681
Someone in an earlier thread said he could, which sounded fucking stupid but I believe it.
Post objectively best comp for defense.
Reinhardt
Bastion
Torj
????
????
????
>>336882891
You can reflect the dragon now.
You have to deflect the arrow before its deployed
>>336880906
F
>>336882956
Fought a game againt winston, bastion, reihardt, hanzo, lucio and reaper and there was fuck all we could do.
>>336882956
>>336882956
Needs a Roadpiggy. When people are forced to come towards you its hook shoot melee central
also needs a Widow because she's broken and the only thing that's stopping her from being completely OP is the player base
>>336882797
yup. The skins weren't worth it
>>336882796
You can't fly directly into people unless you're willing to kited out. Everyone in this game has a way to dodge or run and for the most part, if you're not positioning yourself in a way to escape you're playing wrong.
D.va can turn on her shield and boost at you, but all you need to do is move away and start shooting, yes she's zoned you from your location but she failed to kill you and now has no way to escape or stop herself from taking damage. Her headshot hitbox is her ENTIRE body which means you're almost always getting headshots on her if she's facing you and she's unable to chase you and shoot you at the same time since her guns not only do piss poor damage at range but she can barely move whilst shooting.
>>336883061
this. The pre-order skins are some of the worst available
>>336883059
Is she a more skill based Hanzo?
>>336881373
>nerf every aspect of roadhog.
How about no. Just add some seconds to his cooldowns.
FUCK
Blizzard please change your mind about the reset.
>>336882956
McCree, a stun that can hit in an AOE and the ability to remove almost anyone from the game at close range. He's a counter to all back liners and has amazing interior game.
>>336883143
no, just most people that play her are shit
>>336883124
More importantly, it's $20 extra for a handful of skins. They could be god-tier skins, but it's $20.
>>336883124
Only tracer's is actually good, but everything else is garbage
>>336883143
No, it's much easier to land shots with Widow than Hanzo. She also has a way to defend herself at close range and the ability to flee most attackers. Close in on Hanzo and call he can do is jump and ricochet shot to save himself. If he has incredible aim he might be able to tag you with an arrow at close range but the whole point of being on top of Hanzo is that you're circling him and killing him quickly without giving him time to flick about arrows.
>>336882956
is 2 of either Reinhardt or Bastion too much for defending?
>>336883041
I think maybe the best anti team for this is probably Mei, Reaper, Reinhardt, Hanzo, Bastion and whatever the fuck the Buddhah ealer is called.
>>336875018
>D.V.a headshot damage reduced so she can actually go toe to toe with people
what the fuck, d.va is the one in dire need of a buff, her damage is fucking garbage
>>336883167
Please. I'm getting that native Pharah skin even if it costs me real money.
>>336883423
I think he's saying her recieving headshot damage mate. Not how much she deals
>Playing as Mei
>Putting up Ice Walls and shit
>Ice Wall shatters
>Reinhardt out of fucking NOWHERE fliesi nto me and sends me back about 20 feet and crushes me to death against a wall
I don't care if I died it was fucking rad.
>>336883167
Fuck you
>3 whites and 1 blue
>FOR 22 FUCKING LEVELS
>>336882614
>auto aim
>winston
It's a fucking cone you retard
>twice the health they have now
So the game can be EVEN FUCKING SLOWER?
Pharah main - wouldn't complain about a small buff in health or slight buff in rocket damage but desu she plays fine as it is.
>You can destroy Junkrat's Rip Tire easily if you're aware/quick enough.
>Yet can't take out Mei's freeze Ult even though it's a stationary hovering device that sits in one spot that probably screams "Shoot me now".
Fix the camera for melee it's so hard to hit people solely because of the camera
>>336883674
Yeah, RIPtire probably shouldn't be killable. It's kind of trash against anything that isn't Badstions, to be honest
>>336883557
>So the game can be EVEN FUCKING SLOWER?
What are you on about? The matches in this game go really goddamn fast. That's why everyone gets pissed when you don't sit your ass on the point, you don't have time to dilly dally.
>>336883674
I actually tried to do exactly that once, just instinctively. It was just floating there.
Naturally, I was disappointed and died like a bitch.
>>336883557
>even fucking slower
>game consists of rushing into a choke point, burn all your CDs and get one-shotted
>slow
Yeah, whatever, m8.
>>336883674
But that makes sense? Highly mobile fast object can be destroyed. Stationary object can't. Why does it being easy to shoot mean it should be destructable?
>>336883767
Holy shit no. Devs never listen to this kind of kid.
Indestructable riptires fucking Jesus
>>336883921
I want it to be both unkillable AND deal damage to people it rolls on
>>336883674
>Junkrat uses his ult
>It turns the corner
>Instantly dies to my turret
It feels so good every single time.
Reinhardts charge is the funnest ability in the game.
>>336884084
y-you're insane...
>>336879472
Even a new release PC game is between 80 and 100 NZD, so you're retarded
>>336883674
>see junkrat wheel rolling towards my squad
>hooking it out of the way and the chain destroys it
Always feels great to help the team
>>336875018
Bastion was more balanced when he could only turn 180 degrees in turret mode honestly. He's supposed to be hard countered by flanking but at the moment he can just rotate and kill you the instant he starts taking damage.
Increase Zenyatta's speed
Replace Symmetra's armor and make it a heal, she is fucking useless as she is.
Let you use your jump without a target as Mercy and make your power beam slightly increase MS of your target and you.
Reduce the effectiveness of Lucio's auras but make his gun apply the speed buff or heal when it hits an ally.
Increase Widowmaker's charge time
Only 1 of each hero per team, double Winston, double Tracer, and Lucio is all I see at my MMR
Let Reinhardt stop his charge
Make Dva an actual tank rather than a flanker that rips your entire team from behind.
Give Bastion a wind up time and allow his transform to be interrupted by stuns, currently if he is transforming and you stun him he will keep transforming.
Rework High Noon and Visor to not have auto aim
>>336882601
But on the flipside really fucking fun to play as
You can do tons of tactical shit with your wall alone, plus her weapon is really potent and eats any close range character except mccree I guess
>>336875018
>D.VA
>Nerfed
Why she is already one of the weaker characters
>>336882951
>>336882681
He can redirect the arrow that's shot before the actual dragon emerges, happened to me earlier
>>336883774
>>336883832
If you are bad at the game, please do not act like your opinion on the game matters.
Erase it and any trace of it ever existing
>>336884190
Man those turrets turn way too fucking quickly it's didiculous
You can't even peakshoot around a corner without eating like 5 shots
>>336884573
>give symmetra a burst heal on cd
yes.
>>336878737
>Sniper class can kill anything in SHORT range
this, why the fuck does the SNIPER have a really powerful SMG as her "main" weapon.
>>336884624
>>D.V.a headshot damage reduced so she can actually go toe to toe with people
>Nerf
Nerf the shit out of Mei. If she gets within shooting range of anyone they're toastor cubed whatever. I don't think there's anyone in the game short of maybe mccree that's going to drop her before she freezes and instagibs them with a headshot.
There's literally no way to make the game good without completely rebalancing almost every feature.
You could make the game half-way competitive if you completely removed ults from the game, I guess. But nobody would watch it, everyone just wants to see the sick killstreaks you get when you hit Q.
>>336884573
>Rework High Noon and Visor to not have auto aim
So you're just saying to remove their ults
>>336875018
I disagree with all of this except mei how could you get everything so wrong
>Turn Reinharts shield from 2000 to 1000 and lower its recharge rate when not broken
>redo every fucking map, far to much walking to points and most last points are right outside defenders spawn and considering defenders dont have a longer respawn time it goes into overtime way too often
>Mei's ult should build up a slow then freeze you not slow you like 100% out of the gate
>Mei's cryo-freeze shouldn't heal
>nerf hanzo
>nerf tracer
>nerf genjis deflect
>nerf widows sniper recharge rate
>reapers teleport should be a different color for ally reapers
>remove heals for characters that aren't supports
>>336877328
>pic related
WHAT THE FUCK?
>>336884851
>>336884624
OP worded it poorly. I assume he means D Va takes less damage from headshots, not that she deals less.
Remove Bastion, it's a shitty concept nobody likes
Give Soldier another ultimate, there's nothing worse than watching a POTG consisting of him ulting and pressing down lmb while aiming at the middle of his screen
Reduce turnspeed of Toblerone turrets, that shit's ridiculious, give them more damage for all I care
Increase damage of melee hits
DO something to unfuck how long it takes before/after every round. Like giving defenders a forward spawn point and cutting the preparation to 30 seconds or giving everyone more MS or a boost when leaving base or fucking something
>>336875018
>What would you do to fix Overwatch?
There is more wrong with the game than simple hero balance. A lot more.
>>336876915
>poorfags
>>336884896
Reaper can lmao run away
Roadhog can kill her with shoot->hook->shoot
>>336884942
>Remove 76's ult because his highlight reels are boring
You're going to have to come up with a better reason than that, anon.
>>336884941
Ohhh okay I'm with you now.
>>336876904
Yeah, pretty much this, honestly.
TF2 really put forth nine very well designed characters brimming with personality. Both in game and through additional media, they give each one a unique identity. Lines are delivered with this in mind, and each of the characters have beef with each other in some way.
In Overwatch, despite all that shit they write in the lore, none of that really emerges beyond their accent when they speak. It's lazy, and token as fuck. Everyone pretty much plays it straight, either as a stern battle-ready warrior, or a somewhat eccentric, energetic person.
>>336879856
>That feel when this game sell millions, but will be dead in two months, like all the other modern Blizzard games that is not Hearthstone
>>336885023
Its fucking awful in every way what more's there to say
It doesn't give him any interesting abilities, it doesn't require any skill whatsoever on his part, there's no counterplay beyond breaking los, there's no tactical applications beyond killing tracers, it's a fucking awful trash concept designed to make casuals feel happy after they press q
>>336884992
>Roadhog can kill her with shoot->hook->shoot
Roadhog is terrible vs Mei, you retard.
Lucio is fun. Lucio is very fun.
The other healers aren't.
They need to be buffed to match without nerfing Lucio.
Zenyatta needs a large buff.
You can't just give a low HP support character no mobility, no defense, no self healing when he has to be on the front lines because of line of sign Harmony orbs.
Mercy is TF2 Medic without anything that makes Medic fun to play.
Effective, but boring as hell.
>>336875018
>>336878119
>this retardation
holy fuck
some of them I agree with but
>Pharah + Soldier 76 health to 250
they are offense not tanks
>Mei health to 200
she is defense not squishy offense
>Mercy pistol fire rate doubled, reload while put away
nigger you what? her pistol already does loads of damage
>Widowmaker zip line countdown halved to 6
zipline is already OP enough as it is, negating most of the detriment of having someone close to you
>D.V.a headshot damage reduced so she can actually go toe to toe with people
NIGGER YOU WHAT. HER PARTICLE FIELD IS INCREDIBLE IN TOE TO TOE AS IS
even worse is
>Soldier 76's heal only is a stim for himself (waaay to much team synergy while being a monster himself)
would make him fucking useless to the team except for being DPS instead of being a well rounded hero
>Reduce McCree's flashbang radius to require near direct hits (the range on this makes me laugh hard when bad mccree's actually miss it)
already has a short as fuck range and a horrible cool down, if you can hit someone at that range accurately you might as well fanfire them
>Increase McCree's reload speed
he only has six shots, and they don't do nearly enough damage to warrant a longer reload
>Let Pharah cancel her ult by right-clicking (it doesn't need to last as long as it does half the time, and would make me use it more as currently I know I'm dead the moment I use it)
go ahead and take away the whole con of the attack which is that it will light you up like a christmas tree
>Hanzo ult moves faster & lasts 1-2s longer (it's such a mediocre ult except for getting peeps off a point for 3s)
this is probably the most retarded one. Already it is difficult to dodge due to its AoE, speed, and ability to go through SOLID COVER
good idea make a fucking lightning fast arrow that covers the entire map and kills everything in 2 seconds, great idea.
there are so many things wrong with these posts it's too long to post in a single reply. Kill yourselves
>>336879197
the point of mercy is her damage boost makes up for her lack of firepower
>>336885023
Not him, but I still think Bastion is a retarded hero.
You need to counter him with a specific hero, most of the time it has to be Pharah or Genji. Its just stupid to force someone in that role, just to kill one turret every 20 seconds.
>Bastion is no longer eligible for highlight reel at the end of game.
>>336882797
clean up your fucking inbox son
Give every female a farting ability
>no Symettra buff
Shit list
>>336884925
>reapers teleport should be a different color for ally reapers
Fucking this
>linjiang tower map
>come back into the fight as Reinhardt
>suddenly that red and black puff of smoke appears in front of me behind our bastion
>wait a second for its cast to finish and bullcharge it so I can pick the faggot as soon as he appears
>it was an allied reaper
>fall to my death into the pit around the cap point>all the team saw it
>>336875018
Let me see my own goddamn body.
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>>336884942
76 should have gotten an orbital strike like Oscar Mike does in Battleborn
>>336885136
That doesn't change anything about what I said
If she gets in freeze range he has to it his first attack and then hook which interrupts her freeze and lets him murderfuck her
If he misses hook he's toast
>>336884898
I feel that there are ways for them to change those ults without completely removing the feel.
High Noon for instance could make you have to mark each character instead of them all instantly being marked for death and Visor could make every landed shot be worth a headshot.
You know what I'd fix?
Let people make custom servers, let them host their own. Let them set up their own sprays, instead of handing out cookie cutter bullshit. And worse of fucking all, don't fucking charge for new characters.
>>336884573
>zenyatta walk speed is slower
There's that meme again
>>336883860
Because it one small fucking bot thing that's less than a third of the Rip Tire's size yet seems to be invincible for whatever arbitrary reasoning.
Why. Anyone with range should be able to avoid it/take it out but apparently not.
>>336875018
We need a buff to McCree. Remove the nerf he got. It's already hard enough to hit these slimy shits especially with 6 shots, we should be able to snipe again.
>>336885106
You see this comes from TF2s characterization being something that comes overtime. They grow on you as you play the game.
OVerwatches characters are upfront tons of characterization. It seems like they have tons because they are all overly unique characters and shit...but its just skin deep.
You hear ONE piece of dialogue during setup and it isn't always your character. Sometimes its an interaction between two...but not always.
There are only a few lines for killing certain heroes. Tracer joking says "death comes" to Reaper and I've heard reaper say something like 'stupid pig' to roadhog.
Its just skimming the surface
>>336884925
>nerf tracer
How? She's good at what she was made for, and quite simply nothing else. If you catch in a face to face confrontation she'll run away or die trying.
>>336885106
>TF2 really put forth nine very well designed characters brimming with personality
Even Evolve did this. Fuck even MOBAs do this better.
The heroes in Overwatch as so bland and forgettable it's crazy.
>>336885297
You're kidding right
He's the king of any close quarter combat, he murders everything there, if he can also snipe he's just dumb
Cancel it.
>>336885151
Its basically
"I play x character and am shit at the game so blizzard should buff them"
>>336885239
>instantly
Ah, so you don't know anything?
Give Reinhardt 3rd person camera all the time (He practically has it all the time anyway)
Give certain heroes damage falloff, i.e. bastion
Global health increase, the game is too instagib for the amount of fucking time you have to run to the god damn point
You can stop Mei's ult by shooting the bot
Make Symetra's ult a shield for 200 with global range, teleporter is a baseline ability, remove charge up on alt fire
Increase D.Va's mek's base damage, decrease ult range and fuse timer
Make Tolb's sentry level up to 3
Give Bastion an arc of fire of 180 degrees max, give his shield back, increase mode switch time
Increase Zayra's shield durations
>>336885297
>instantly wins any close range fight with 2/3rd of the game roster
LOL
Ya bro u gotta snipe xD
>>336885151
>take away the whole con of the attack
Name one other fucking hero who's ultimate has a con
>>336885239
>High Noon for instance could make you have to mark each character instead
That'd be much better, make it faster to compensate
>>336885023
Completely change 76's ult because it's fucking stupid and gives him a bad rep.
He has a solid weapon, burst damage on a fair cooldown, he can heal his team and he can sprint to get around OWs pointlessly large maps in an actually reasonable amount of time.
But no, he has the autoaim ult so he's the tard class.
>>336883674
Mei's ult is easy to avoid, and is not nearly as destructive. Riptire is. With Blizzard, just move out of the way or pop a heal before you freeze, if you can. With riptire you had just better hope it goes for someone else or that you have a shield/invincible or you are going to fucking die no matter what.
>>336885161
This. Mercy players live vicariously through the characters they boost.
>>336885239
I'd vastly prefer that for Visor because I would destroy everyone. That's a 340DPS weapon if thats the case.
>>336885418
That you can't use it all the time :')
>>336885391
>Global health increase, the game is too instagib for the amount of fucking time you have to run to the god damn point
I'd just reduce the running time instead, forward spawn points or more ms or speed boosts and shit
>>336885219
Yes it does.
At mid to long range she will just shoot shards at you, at close range she fucks you with her slow into freeze.
She can block you off with wall and can avoid your hook+shotgun combo by freezing herself.
If she has ult then you're beyond fucked while if you have your ult she has 2 ways to circumvent it.
Seriously, Roadhogs are some of the easiest targets for Mei, they're either free kills or you can just easily avoid them.
>>336875018
I have never seen someone be so completely wrong about something before
The only thing you said that's remotely arguable is lowering Mei's health but that doesn't really stop her from being an annoying piece of shit
>>336884685
>matches last 10 minutes tops
>says game is slow
>prove him wrong
>'please leave your subjective opinions to yourself'
And keep your shilling to yourself, thanks.
Thank god I refunded yesterday. Game is fun and shit, but it's a $20 game at most. It's a rip off a f2p for fuck's sake.
>>336885391
This is a pretty good post.
>>336885282
What about that is related to gameplay. You're talking about size and some sense of realism. Why? The ult that can move, blow up an entire team and is projected from a safe spot makes sense to be able to blow up. The ult that is stationary, predictable and used up close makes sense not to. It doesn't matter what the visual representation is.
>>336885308
Her jumps need a longer recharge rate and its almost impossible to trace her when she goes back in time
>>336885305
Maybe due to the fact that it's the beta we're not seeing some of the potential as far as character personalities go.
But it really feels like Blizzard went "let's have some robots, some people of different races, a pro gamer girl, and Pudge from Dota 2".
Fucking show, don't tell. I don't care about your gigantic blocks of backstory text if none of it manifests in-game.
>>336885514
We were talking about the specific situation of Mei already being in close range, not the general matchup, and which heroes having a chance to get out of it or kill her
>>336885418
Mei's is anemic and relies on teamwork
Death blossom is vulnerable and relatively still
Le High Noon broadcasts, has red aura, and requires a charge
DVA's self destruct kicks you out into a weak form
Riptire leaves the player vulnerable
I could go on
>>336885391
>Give certain heroes damage falloff, i.e. bastion
Almost everyone with a hitscan weapon has damage falloff over a distance
>>336885428
His ult isn't even that good, though. He still has to reload, he can't get headshots with it, and he doesn't magically have the extra bulk to handle all the aggro he'll be grabbing with it.
>>336885239
Nigger it's already hard enough to land a decent high noon unless you're flanking. The slow as shit movement speed, the 5 seconds to target, the loud as fuck noise it makes.
widowmaker with schoolgirl uniform (skirt) DLC
>>336885538
>>game consists of rushing into a choke point, burn all your CDs and get one-shotted
Do you think people will still take you seriously after a dumb fucking statement like that
>>336885391
Bastion already has damage falloff
Go test hit turret at different ranges in the firing range
At a decent range, his gun becomes a tickler.
>>336885319
>heroes in overwatch
>bland and forgettable
nigger you what
say what you will about the game, but the characters are recognizable and unique.
I see your pic demonstrates that well, where we have robot, burly old man, burly old man, and fat burly old man
>>336885575
>Its a beta
Anon this is the full game without ranked mode
There is no other content to add to the game. All 12 maps are in, all characters/skins are in, all weapons are in. The only thing missing is ranked.
>>336885281
Zenyatta is the "slowest" support currently and has the least HP mobility is very important in this game; Mercy has leap, Symmetra just moves fast, and Lucio has insane mobility with speed boosts and parkour.
>>336885383
Yes there is a small delay but overall there is very little skill involved with it currently other than don't die and have a large viewpoint. Requiring you to manually mark each player with a LMB would make it easy to use but hard to master, which is something Blizzard loves.
>>336885628
So it's bad and braindead. Doesn't sound like reason to leave it as is.
>Remove shitty 1 shot abilities
>Can't play the same character if already picked
>Payload maps are bigger + more time added
>change Soldier 76 aimbot ability to something else
>reduce reapers range
>>336885586
>Mei's is anemic and relies on teamwork
I would argue against that. It's definitely a lot better if you have teammates around but if you were to freeze the enemy team you could easily just headshot 2 or 3 of the squishier enemies on the team before it ends
>>336885628
It's not about it being good or bad power-wise, it's about it being an awful concept with no interesting applications whatsoever that shouldn't be in the game
>>336885106
I liked TF2 but they were basically national stereotypes sometimes with a twist
>>336885297
>MCCREEEE is already king of close fighting with the ability to 1 shot any non tank via stun->fan
>is a great medium duelists
>wanting to return him to being the best sniper in the game
yeah nah, nerf his range was a good decision
>>336885583
Yes and Roadhog doesn't have an advantage at close range at all.
Reaper and McCree are a far bigger issue.
>>336885661
>At a decent range, his gun becomes a tickler.
That's bullshit. Bastion can cover the entire corridor leading up to point B in the Temple of Anubis. You stick so much as a big toe inside of that gate and you're getting shredded.
>>336885282
>arbitrary
You mean gameplay and mechanical balance? How arbitrary.
Like, what the fuck, when roadhog jumps on someone why doesn't it kill them? How does someone the size of roadhog land on someone like tracer and not crush her? Some arbitrary bullshit reasoning I'm sure.
>>336875018
How to actually fix the game
>Nerf Tracer is some fuckin fashion, longer reload, less damage, longer CD on the abilites. Anything.
>Give Zenyatta slightly higher attack speed or bump up his health.
>Your Winston change
>D.Va can melee while her defense matrix is out.
>Buff Hanzo, Torj, Symmetra, and Zarya slightly
>Maybe slightly nerf Widowmakers charge time.
>Dont touch Badstion just because of shitters
>>336885651
That's exactly what the game is. Stop lying.
Game is pretty disappointing.
The game has too much fluff, having so many characters in this game is more of a flaw than a benefit since it just increases the chances of multiple people playing all snipers or all defense characters while you're trying to attack.
Tf2 was better since it had limited characters all with their own speciality.
Now we just have many who practically have the same uses which makes it easier for random to have shitty groupings.
