ITT: Characters who did everything wrong
real niggas killed April anyway
>>336858380
what a fucking retard. I loved that campaign
>>336858380
>>336858798
Both of them only did some mistakes, they're cool.
>>336858380
You're a piece of shit if you let Roman die.
>>336859836
You are, but that doesn't excuse Roman from being a complete fuck up.
>>336858380
>>336859836
my little cousin saved april and let roman die. we were never really close after that. not even kidding. who the fuck does that.
>>336858380
Just wanted to be happy....
>>336860073
I'm still salty over this, she didn't deserve that
does tv count?
>>336860180
that's the best way to do it if you plan to play post game because Kate (her real name btw) stops calling you and Roman's annoying ass isn't around anymore to call. that's two friends you can check off your list, more freedom.
>>336858380
You first.
>>336860491
So you don't really hold family in high regard I take it from this post?
>>336860491
that's cold anon, roman made you what you are. show some gratitude.
>Niko please, take the job. This could be a new life for us! We can use some of the money do the honeymoon, then a can use the rest to live the rest of our days in peace! Please Niko, do it for me. Do it for Mallory. Do it for the baby.
I'm so sorry Roman.
>>336860236
I COULDN'T SAVE HER
>>336860236
i thought that was the guy from hatred
>>336862035
It does look like him.
>>336859727
>>336860180
>>336860491
>april
wait, wait
I've played through this game multiple times... when the fuck is anyone referred to as April?...Isn't it Kate from the moment Packie introduces her?
>>336862035
Probably his half brother besides Jackie was a pretty decent guy and he just wanted to settle down with his childhood sweet heart. Only that wasn't meant to be.
>>336862337
you need to share what you're smoking senpai, packie calls her April from the first phone call
was doing things from the moment he joined and did nothing to make him likeable enough for me to not spare his life
>>336860393
>this idiot actor still hasnt learned how to hold a gun
>there are retards that actually saved Roman
Kill yourself.
>>336862802
>this silly anon can't differentiate real life from a shitty tv show
>>336862802
That retarded revolver does tend to sag just by virtue of its length and weight, but seriously, how has nobody told him that he'd shoot the guy in the stomach and break his wrist holding the gun that limp?
>>336862802
>you are now aware that any time a gun is being held really goofy, its because modern studios cant get insurance for pointing guns at actors faces or heads
>so whenever you see it, they goofy shit is them trying to MAKE it look like it, without actually doing it, is to minimize the time having guns pointed at heads as much as humanely possible
>>336860958
Fucker, I'm sitting on $250,000 worth of stolen bank money, plus god knows how much more because there's nothing in Liberty City to buy or customize or participate in. We could go on your stupid honeymoon and use hundred dollar bills as napkins and asswipes the whole time and still come out with enough dough to put your (Vlad's) baby through college. Get off my testisi about not working with the only antagonist the game's got.
HEY ALAN, LET'S GET WASTED IN THIS ISOLATED HOUSE SURROUNDED BY EVIL SHADOWS
>>336862492
nigga what the fuck? thats blatantly false. nobody is referred to as april anywhere in gta iv
>when Packie calls you sobbing about his sister
>>336863664
dude, did you even play the game? kate isn't packie's sister, kate is thatFBI agentthat cucks you after Snow Storm.
>>336861031
It'snot your fault Jackie
>>336860491
Why do people always bitch about Roman calling you all the time? He rarely ever called me about bowling, even after saving him and letting Kate die.
I like this game but man the ending fucking blows. If you choose Revenge, Kate's death has pretty much zero impact because she was such a minimal part of the story. And Pegorino being the final "boss" is a huge anti climax.
The Deal ending was better from a dramatic standpoint, but it's still a poor ending. Why did they have to end the game with "do the heroin deal or not?" It just came out of nowhere because most of the game wasn't about that, meeting Darko was the real climax. The ending was rushed as fuck, even the cutscenes where Roman/Kate dies are so poorly done.
Could be wrong but here's my theory: the Deal ending was more or less what they wanted to use as the only ending, but they were worried killing Roman would be too sad, so they create two endings.
>>336863860
But I thought that wasMichelle
>>336863860
That was Michelle/Karen. Still never referred to as April.
Seriously, did we play the game in an alternate reality or something
>>336864023
no, michelle is packie's great grandmother who throws the whiskey bottle at you in the "i need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle" cutscene
>>336864060
i literally have a copy of the script on my desktop, but keep calling me a liar buddy
>>336864109
>>336864060
>>336864023
APRILSTEIN UNIVERSE WHEN
>>336862802
Hes a britbong anon what else could you have expected?
>>336864189
wow, haven't seen the "oh shit I made myself look like an idiot, better pretend I was trolling them the entire time" technique in years
>>336864217
Sorry but Packie's sister is consistently known as April in the American release. Maybe you had a PAL version?
Anyone else think this was oddly, the funniest GTA of all?
I love Niko's dry sense of humor.
>driving around with an unconscious girl he kidnapped
>friend calls asking if he wants to go to Strip Club
>"Sorry, no can do, I'm already with a girl and I don't think it would be appropriate
>>336864337
wow, haven't seen the old "oh shit i realize my mistake but i better keep digging myself deeper and deeper" technique in decades
>>336864217
This is like the time I convinced my buddy that Kingdom of the Crystal Skull wasn't real and he was imagining the whole thing
>>336864406
>>336864406
This fucking guy
>>336860958
Why did Rockstar fucking do that? You want to help Roman and he dies because of it. What was Rockstar trying to achieve there? It's just a really asshole thing to do. It doesn't even make any kind of point as far as story or meaning goes.
>>336864632
It's meant to give the player a taste of the bullshit that turned Niko into the cynical asshole that he is. The Roman vs. April thing is basically a condensed example of what Niko has been going through his entire life.
>>336860073
Truly the best girl, great taste anon
>>336864590
RIP Lenny.
Im actually curious if this is trolling, delusion or actually true, and he's got some modern-day Pokemon Black on his hands.
>>336864632
There was literally no reason to take the deal, there is nothing in the game to even buy with money and only a beta faggot would go crawling back to the asshole that betrayed and kept trying to kill them.
>>336864781
I am now calling her april. This is now a meme kate=april
>>336864509I wish it wasn't real
>>336863537
don't you DARE insult barry. HE IS A GODSEND COMIC RELIEF CHARACTER
>>336864860
At that point in the story I was buying a new suit every time I got blood on the old one instead of just changing clothes. They really fucked up by not giving you anything to do with all that cash.
>>336864109
Nobody throws a bottle at you in that cutscene for that mission. In that cutscene, all that happens is you and Gerry talk and he shows you the dead guy in the freezer.
>>336864632
this. especially because in the mission prior where you have the option to kill the traitor you've been looking for the entire time, Rockstar clearly emphasizes that the whole point is to show that murdering all these people isn't making Niko happy. Even if you do murder him, Niko says he feels no different and Roman says he hopes you can begin to move on.
Then the next thing you know they're telling you to choose between killing someone for revenge or sucking up your pride to help your family...
yet which one gives you the worse ending? exactly like you said, rockstar completely contradicts themselves
>>336864997
If you kill Darko, the dialogue after is just heartbreaking.
"I feel empty....I thought it would fill me up with some substance....Instead I just feel empty"
>>336864632
It's to give the illusion of choice and make the player feel they made a meaningful decision that resulted in a good or bad effect. In reality, the choice had nothing to do with the effect.
>>336863502
You could've typed all of that like an adult instead of greentexting it.
>>336864991
I was speaking metaphorically. Gerry showing you the dead guy is a stunning reminder of human mortality, the game essentially "throws a bottle" at your emotional core.
>>336864997
the story of iv is just a clusterfuck.
i think making dimitri the main villain was a mistake, they should have made faustin the main villain. they didn't need to even have the whole "ray bulgarin is still mad and here now in LC".
HOY DUDE LET'S OPEN A DOOR TO THE EXPANSE LMAO
>bringing your kids along in your jrpg
I've never wanted anything more than to see these children die
>>336865127
I always shoot him the knees a couple times, hit him with the bat, bring right to the brink of death. Then I get into the car so the game thinks you let him live and Roman says the line that goes with letting Darko survive. But then as I leave I speed up and tag Darko. I always kind of imagine it as Niko's way of saying "fuck it, I understand the moral, but fuck it"
>>336865230
you mean, like how > means not important to the general conversation, ala coding, or do you think it means quotations or implications, considering its neither an implication, nor a quotation?
Where is Charles Lee?
>>336865452
The latter.
>>336863968
I actually think it's fitting if Pegorino is the last boss. After killing Dimitri, it's supposed to feel like everything is done and ok, and you and Roman and Kate and Mallorie can live happy lives. But instead, Pegorino, the guy trying to get on the Commission and make something of his organization, is now nothing, and he opens fire at Roman's wedding out of spite.
And at the end, Niko still ends up alone. Roman found his wife but Niko is forever the lonely drifter.
>>336865587
>Not even the leader of the templars
>templars are a very cruel and by the books organization
>completely okay with him burning a village without permission
>>336865658
fuck you Griffith
>>336858380
>roman has tens of thousands of dollars in debt that keep fucking me up
>have hundreds of thousands of dollars and only pay n sprays and hot dogs to buy
>can't pay his debts and solve a lot of problems
>>336865587
>"WHAT YOU CARRY IS MINE"
>>336863860
http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Kate_McReary
Kate is definitely Packies sister
>>336865591
how odd.
>>336865814
>making fake wiki articles to fuck with us
how low can you go anon? im gonna go take a shower. if you haven't posted a sincere apology letter to everyone in this thread by the time i get back, i'm reporting you to the moderators.
Why hello there, don't mind me, I'll justbetray the guild and get nearly all of your cool friends killed.
dumb bitch's mistakes are like half of halo 4's plot
>>336866067
Don't ever post in my thread again unless you're contributing to the topic.
>>336866074
That whole storyline was fucked anyway.
>>336865658
>>336866074
She was killed horribly for it, and you took her job to boot.
>>336866074
Sounds good to me.
>>336864406
I always felt bad for him, like hes trying not to fuck everything up, but he was a massive fuckup himself
>>336866656
So no matter what he does he never gets his redemption in the end?
>>336866074
ruined part of the game for me, to be honest
>>336866585
oblivion was so fucking rad
I'm gonna replay it with some mods someday
>>336860073
Only thing she did wrong was being too fun for the game ;_;
>>336862760
>Romance Sheena
>This fucker keeps hitting on her
He deserved death.
>>336863920
same reason people bitch about Preston Garvey for handing out endless side quests. compulsion to drop whatever they're doing and go check that new box off the list ... with a bit of adhd and autism, standard bullshit across other games as well.
had no problem with Roman, I found bowling in-game to be a sweet cathartic release in-between murder missions and fetch quests.
with Roman, and all the friends, you could pick a setting to where they're not calling you in the middle of a firefight or chase to express their infinite love for you and the burning desire to do something you can't at the moment.
with Preston, it's as simple as not talking to him to complete the side quests. and you'll get enemy raid notifications magically, to which if you've set up a base settlement properly, their failure won't cause a loss of the settlement.
both are easy to ignore when it's not convenient, something autists can't into when it's calling right in their faaaaaace
>>336866074
>tries to run assassin's guild like bunch of silly misfits
>is a fucking control freak
>goes against wishes of higher power
>betrays the most efficient assassin in guild
>gets herself killed
She's shit.
>>336866712
heres how it goes
>escaping through the top of a church near a bell
>the man who hung himself from the church bell attacks and you have to catch the fuckup
>he tells you to let him fall into the pit of crazy zombies while others tell you to do it because NOBODY likes him and he is constantly endangering people sometimes on purpose
>if you dont drop him there later while you are escaping with kenny he falls off the roof and gets pinned to the ground
>kenny rushes out to save him in a an alley full of zombies but ends up putting him down and escaping.
He flat out runs away and leaves clemintine to a zombie while he has a weapon. A hobo saves her but he just does shit like that all the time
>>336867105
This. I used to be so paranoid about keeping all the friends happy in GTA IV that I actually found myself getting annoyed with them as well. But in recent playthroughs, it's become obvious how little time you have to really spend with any of them and like you said, when you do finally it's not even that bad because you can pick something like pool which is always pretty chill lol. (Except that the pool physics fucking suck)
>>336867387
best option on pool my anonseph is to pwn dickhead X and take his crib, he's got a dope untarnished pool table that works with the npcs.
iirc that table doesn't have dead spots and other bullshit built into it, works like the GTASA tables.
also fuck R* for removing pool from GTA 5.
>>336867529
>I always take playboys crib
>mfw I didn't know you could use his table
>>336867387
I didnt even bother keeping the friends happy. The game is easy enough without their abilities.
Am I the only person here who literally makes the same choices every playthrough?Ditch Michelle to help Roman
Spare Ivan
Spare Cherise
Spare Clarence
Kill Playboy
Kill Francis
Spare Darko
Kill Dimitri
>>336868379
Good job anon you are not an asshole!
>Fuck that one guy you spare who ambushes you
>>336868379
>sparing anyone
survival of the finest my guy
>>336868379
nah, I do that too.
>>336865658
FUCK YOU GRIIIIIFFIIIITTHHHH
> snitch nigga got stitch'd
>>336865402
I want to fuck the one on the right.
>>336865587
Correct answer is his nigger trainer
>>336858380
I still can't believe she's allowed to roam free after all she did.
>>336863438
He's aiming at a zombie, what difference would it make?
>>336864189
I literally am in a skype chat with Dan Houser right now.
>>336873240
I am Dan Houser. No you're not. Michelle was the girlfriend and Kate was packie's sister, suck a bag of dicks.
>>336868379
Nice, these are literally all the correct choices
>>336866074
I kinda felt bad for her. Some mary sue stumbles in off of the street, gets everyone to like them, is the best at what they do and then happens to be the chosen one. I'd be fucking pissed too.
Can we agree that GTA4 and San-andreas have the best campaign? and arguably multiplayer too? i played endless hours of GTA race online
>>336867370
Fuck you for not spoiling that.
>>336873647
She lives in magic land where gods and demons are real and people fling spells around and you can get shanked by ghosts and vampires.
Why the *fuck* would she be skeptical about the whole nightmother thing and work against it? In the context of elder scrolls she just had a dogshit sense of self preservation, because when someone says that some big mystical force or entity exists and wants things its probably true and you either need to play along or duck the fuck out.
>>336868379
>there are people who actually killed dwayne
This fucking idiot
>>336873373
>>336873240
>>336864189
>>336863860
i love you guys
>>336860180
How old was your cousin?
>>336875003
>guys
>s
One person my friend
>>336867370
>censored blood
>>336875948
>not this useless pleb
>>336874680
Jesus. Once I met him again, I just wanted Nilfgaard to win
>muh gun keeps jamming
>>336876119
DON'T YOU FUCKING TALK SHIT ABOUT JACKIE
>>336876316
State of this family
>>336865824
How is it odd? That's the whole point of greentext
>>336873861
Deal Breaker all day every day for 3+ years.
>>336876382
He was a useless fuck up though
>>336863861
I don't get why the darkness didn't let him tear those two to pieces. Jackie had already killed so many people by that point that he was damned anyways. Was it just for the player's sake, so they have motivation to play the rest of the game?
>>336876306
And did they?
>>336875948
This guy's voice was amazing
>>336874680
Shit dude. I wanted that from the start. Northern Kingdoms are run by a bunch of greedy asshats. The only half decent one was Foltest but he can't keep it in his fucking pants, fucked his sister and sent men to die because he lost custody of the other two brats he sired. Sure. Nilfgaard is a bit harsh on the punishment and you can tell the author wants us to hate them because he is stroking his throbbing Polish Nazi-hate- boner but I just can't bring myself to hate them as much as the Northern kingdoms. They simply are the lesser of the two evils in that scenario.
>>336877010
Especially if Ciri takes over at the end
>>336863537
is that Lyin' Ted?
>>336865340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfXKue5eL_o
he just seems out of place and they made brucie a bitch boy in TBoGT
>>336874429
>Kill Dwayne
>Expect more jobs from PlayboyX
>He kicks you out
>>336863502
Why is this a thing? Surely they don't use actual guns. Like, Surely the "guns" they use as props literally cannot fire at any time. Surely.
>inb4 rused
>>336878040
>>336878040
It's because of Brandon Lee's death.
>>336878145
>>336878167
Oh this guy.
Then why don't they just use fake guns?
Did someone sneak a real one on set for some reason?
>>336877808
>you actually killed dwayne
Fuck you, cunt. Bet you picked Kate too
>>336874429
>Killed Dwayne
>Regretted it for the rest of my life
I want to replay it just to change that one decision.
>>336878303
No one knows for sure.
Well, only Steven Seagal truly knows.
https://youtu.be/3YDvGy0-p9M?t=20m19s
>>336878303
blanks are fired out of real non-modified guns. It's a real round with the bullet part removed and the hole crimped closed.
>>336878624
That sounds ridiculously unnecessary in the age of special effects.
>>336878624
>>336878145
Apparently the people on the set of The Crow were so cheap that they tried manually disarming each bullet so they wouldn't actually have to pay for real blanks
>>336878720
Cuts down on production when you have to cgi casings and propellant when using a compressed air prop gun.
>>336858380
rip
>>336879263
That sounds pretty far-fetched, real ammunition costs more than blanks.
>>336860592
oh fuck off it's not like he's your brother, he's your annoying cousin you only met a few times when you were kids.
>>336881920
>only met a few times when you were kids
But that's wrong you retard
>choosing some pussy over your family
Kill yourself
>>336878624
This only true for revolvers and bolt-actions
Anything else (where the bolt is moved by the gas of the fired round) requires modifications to the weapon.
>>336878720
Blanks are really nothing more that those cap guns kids play with on steroids.
CGI and Rendering can get quite expensive, so if you have a scene with 5-10 soldiers fire their weapons, CGI'ing their shots isn't going to be cheap.
>>336863502
Yeah because bullets magically materialize into guns and start killing people you fucking liberal shit I hope Trump puts you on the other side of the wall