>THE NEW DOOM IS SLOW!
https://youtu.be/5T_zaNqAqzY
>>336843884
>enemies literally stagger around, doing nothing
>every dead enemy drops HP items
>those fucking "cinematic" opening sequences every 5 seconds
>>336844468
>5 seconds
It's not that long
>>336844468
>enemies literally stagger around, doing nothing
Have you played the original Doom?
>>336844468
So... Like Doom.
Also, what the hell's up with every enemy exploding into HP when killed?
>>336844587
Since long before average /v/ goer was even born, it seems. Just played the vanilla last month.
>>336843884
>>336844468
>implying
You niggers never fucking played VANILLA doom have you?
>>336845101
neither have you clearly
>>336843884
If thats anything but slow for you for a game that is called "Doom" i have bad news for you. You have shit taste in vidya.
>>336845804
Compared to this?
https://youtu.be/m9HvAXZgGeQ
>>336843884
Jesus christ all those "AW YEAH, A CANNED EXECUTION ANIMATION, DUUUUUUDE SIIIIICK" reactions.
>>336843884
these fuckers are super awkward
>>336843884
enemies were slow in the original doom, too
it was YOU that was so fast
>it's a "lock the player in a small arena and have him fight enemies that explode into health and ammo drops" episode
>>336843884
>>336844976
>>336846159
can't wait
Oh shit did they hire someone that actually knows how to play?
On a KB+M?
How hard is it to do that in actual promotional videos?
>>336843884
>200 FPS
How can Sony compare with it's 30?
>AWWH YEAH LE EBIN GORE LMAOOOO OMG SO HARDCORE XDDD LOOK DEM GUTS LOL OHHHHHHHH YEAAAAAAAAHH :D
So this... is the... Doom fanbase... Woah........
Why is the fucking retard checking the map every 4 seconds?
>>336843884
>first thing we see is the player getting animation locked from a fall
What's the best way to play Doom 64?
>>336846574
With a N64
>>336846574
With da lights off!
Oooooooosnap nigga! That shit goes harr
>>336846574
Doom64 EX
>>336846574
Doom 64 EX.
>>336846808
>>336846820
Will any rom do to in order to make the wad?
>>336846967
The one I got from emuparadise worked just fine
>>336844468
Literally everything you just greentexted is factually proven wrong by the video OP posted.
>>336843884
>People get excited over the scripted Chainsaw animations
>Dont get excited over the running gunning and jumping
Why?
>>336843884
>>336844468
Welcome to /v/, a board filled to the brim with underage so far attached from their peers that they spend most of their free time false flagging and baiting about console wars so they can get just a tiny taste of that attention they were so starved for as a child. The hottest "joke" right now is to pretend to be an obnoxious dick riding corporate dog (for sony, before anyone else), insult all other brands that directly compete with them, and discard all other posts just to get that point across. Enjoy your stay!
>>336844976
>every enemy
You faggots didn't even WATCH the video, did you?
>>336844468
>every dead enemy drops HP items
This bothered me so much for some reason
>>336846256
kek
>>336846808
>>336846820
I need to play this again. This was more doom 3 then the actual doom 3,
>>336847363
Why bother trying to be informed when I can just blindly hate things?
>early gameplay videos get released
>THIS GAME IS SHIT YOU NEED TO EXECUTE ENEMIES TO GET HEALTH AND AMMO
>new gameplay video gets released
>THIS GAME IS SHIT TOO MANY ENEMIES DROP HEALTH AND AMMO WHEN THEY DIE
>>336848575
Enemies shouldn't be dropping health and ammo at all
>>336848575
who are you quoting?
>>336848735
>Enemies shouldn't be dropping health and ammo at all
Why?
I really hope someone will make models for the classic armor and demons
The new armor especially looks retarded
>>336846256
could you get any more assblasted?
>>336848735
Ammo? Only the zombiemen. Health? None of them
>>336848924
Because that's fucking gay
>>336849021
Why?
>>336849021
Better than, running back and forth grabbing medkitz and ammo boxes
omg ran out of health brb
omg ran out of ammo brb
>>336849021
Still better than health regen
why does doom have BLUE FOR HEALTH
and GREEN FOR ARMOUR
>>336848735
Because leaving medkits and ammo sitting in the middle of the floor makes so much more sense, right?
>>336848775
Epic meme leddit. Congratulations on not knowing how greentext has been used for years. This isn't a forum. Fuck off.
>>336849110
why do you think? It's just regenerating health disguised as something else. It slows the game down, it makes it easy, it encourages lazy level design. It also flies in the face of doom.
It sucks. Whats the point of scavenging a level looking for secrets to get health and ammo when its just handed to you every kill?
I hate you little newfags that think we dislike this shit for no reason and its just something to go "why?" to. You have no clue what you're talking about.
>>336849284
Doomguy's armor is green
Dunno why health is blue
>>336849284
Probably because that's how it's been since 1993.
>>336849370
this m9
pic related, new doom beta phot-age
>>336849150
One makes you strategically save ammo/health for later encounters, adding depth to a very simple process. The other is braindead shit hardly any better than health regen. How the fuck is it better, convenience?
>>336849479
duuuuuuuurrr, right forgot about that stuff, been awhile since i played doom
>>336849370
>having enemies drop health/armor/ammo slows down the game
As compared to backtracking for health kits and armor you didn't pick up? Anon please, you're clearly full of shit. What YOU are proposing would slow the game down. If you think it's too easy then turn up the difficulty you big fucking baby.
>>336848924
Because it removes layers of the game. Instead of having to manage your aggression in a fight, manage both your positioning and your enemies' positioning in relation to item pickups, and exercise your skill in ducking and weaving through obstacles and enemies to get to pickups, you just kill what's in front of you and you'll be kept stocked. It's very monotonous and shallow.
>>336849479
>>336849713
I like how you ignored his strongest point
> it encourages lazy level design
probably because you don't understand why
18 to post here kiddo
>>336849713
>If you think it's too easy then turn up the difficulty you big fucking baby.
the funny thing is the hardest difficulty in classic doom made enemies respawn
if enemies in doom shitted out health and ammo when they died, nightmare would be easier than UV
>>336849713
Not him, but you are confirmed for an underage jackass. See >>336849648 for a good reason as it adds some strategy to a simple game design. Not only do you have to explore the levels instead of rushing from point a to point b, it also requires you to use some conservation techniques.
>you big fucking baby.
Nice job confirming your age.
>>336844468
Posts like these show why shooters as a whole pander to the brodude audience. No matter what they do youll never be happy. Im glad
>>336849648
On hard difficulty they will drop significantly less health.
>>336849617
bruh, that's commander farsight in eternal confrontation (which is still 1000x better than this shitty gaem)
MY biggest issue is the dumb camera stuff they do, like taking away control to show you a thing
>hey, look at this shotgun, PRETTY COOL, HUH
the game seemingly begs for your attention all the time, rather than just being fun and challenging
thats what it seems like, obviously havent played it.
>>336849883
So exactly what is non-lazy level design? What about DOOM's levels are designed lazily? I can't wait for you to tell me a whole lot of shit that you have no evidence or facts to back up.
>>336849984
Yeah you keep being convinced that everyone who disagrees with you must be underage. I was born in 1990, so you can blow it right out of your ass.
>>336850058
no no no
It is Farsight but he's in the new doom, didn't you see the newest gameplay footage?
Everyone here is just crying that the new Doom is too slow but it's really just gotten more tactical since you're in a battlesuit...
>>336850142
>Yeah you keep being convinced that everyone who disagrees with you must be underage.
It seems you can't read. Also nice how you were unable to refute any of my points.
>so you can blow it right out of your ass.
Unless you're a manchild, you're a liar. You act nothing like someone who is that old.
>>336848924
it promotes a lemming behavior of just following to where the next enemy is without thinking. It's definitely going balls to the wall with the explosions and stuff and they just want you to kill things without worrying about exploration or managing your health
>>336850142
non lazy level design makes you interact with the level to beat it and is non linear
lazy level design has enemies that drop health and so, you don't need to worry about anything but them, as long as you are where the enemies are, you will keep regenerating health.
You could literally fight 100 enemies in a small room and live due to constantly regenerating health no matter where you are in the level
Hell yeah!
New Doom looks sick, its going to save the FPS genre! Why the fuck aren't you preordering right the fuck now, /v/!?Fuck no. Literally only interesting FPS this year is Battlefield 1
>>336850302
>Also nice how you were unable to refute any of my points.
That's because you don't have any points. You've got baseless conjecture and a lot of hot opinions.
>You act nothing like someone who is that old.
More hot opinions. You're on 4chan you fucking idiot. Did you expect discussion on par with a congressional hearing? Get over yourself.
>>336850485
Battlefield 1 looks awful
>>336850485
>Literally only interesting FPS this year is Battlefield 1
Way to ruin you post.
>>336850485
>battlefront didn't make enough dosh
>time for a cheap reskin
>h-hey guys, it's like meme war 1 but like in like the future like
Are we sure there's no health packs hidden around?
>>336848924
wow point nicely raised you utter shiteating retard.
>>336850510
>Not only do you have to explore the levels instead of rushing from point a to point b, it also requires you to use some conservation techniques.
How is this not a point? Besides learning the level layout for harder difficulties, you have to do this in the older games for survival. If enemies give me all of the health and ammo then I have no reason to avoid fights or explore.
>>336850510
>More hot opinions
This is a truth. You sound exactly like a child trying to sound tough in front of his friends.
>>336850796
There are health packs
>>336843884
That Youtube comment is right
Why the FUCK haven't Bethesda showed THIS kind of game play? Why don't they want to sell their game?
I'm a big fan of the doom games and literally everything up until this video has been boring to me.
>>336850005
>easy difficulty
>every enemy explodes into items
>no other way to seek out significant supplies
>hard difficulty
>no enemy explodes into items
>no way at all to get supplies
That doesn't solve a fucking thing.
>in most of the firefights he just stands still and turns on the spot
>gets blasted to shit but it doesn't seem to matter
>if he's not standing still he's filling the screen with explosions and following up with the super shotgun without strafing side to side
>>336850485
>Dumb weeb poster
>Excited over pre rendered trailer for generic war shooter.
>Take barely any damage from attacks
>Guy in video just runs and jumps around every time he fights an enemy to make game seem less boring
>Those stupid brutal doom wannabe executions
go home Bethesda advertiser
>>336850142
Everything we've seen of Doom 4's levels suggest that the game's basically just a series of big open arenas with demons appearing out of thin air. Doom's level design was all about unique hand crafted encoubters rather than very generic arenas with monster spawning AI.
>>336850814
>Besides learning the level layout for harder difficulties, you have to do this in the older games for survival. If enemies give me all of the health and ammo then I have no reason to avoid fights or explore.
So what you're saying is having a player to press E on walls until they find a hidden door with a green armor pick-up behind it is "exploration."
You know, you're not the only person who ever played Doom. Whatever definition of "explore" you have it's only in the loosest sense of the term. A lot of the secret areas were very clearly hinted at via impassable grates or windows anyway.
>This is a truth. You sound exactly like a child trying to sound tough in front of his friends.
Here's a truth: You're not only arguing ad hominem but you're also doing so in a case where it is factually false.
>>336843884
>GTX 1080 is significantly faster than any single graphics card to exist today
>2 0 0 fps on 1 0 8 0 p for a linear ass game that looks like it came straight out of 2010
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>336851091
>dumb weeb poster
That's all of 4chan though, fuck off back to ledddit
>>336850123
/v/ will complain about anything.
This game only gets the flack that it gets because it has the name Doom on it.
The game by itself is okay, not Doomy enough though.
>>336843884
looks fine by me
It's kinda sad how hard they try to sell this as some kind of old school experience when it's clearly a console shooter.
>>336850964
You get what you want senpai, play with permadeath or be a pussy.
>>336851156
This.
This is so fucking crap
>>336851207
it hovers around 100 for any of the combat fights, too.
>>336851207
>came out of 2010
It doesn't
>>336850583
>>336850625
>>336850713
>>336851091
>he would much rather play a generic, snails pace, press X to win corridor shooter then a fucking WW1 team shooter
Yeah, stick to nuDoom please.
>>336851156
>Doom's level design was all about unique hand crafted encoubters rather than very generic arenas with monster spawning AI.
Boy I bet you really hated Doom 2 then.
>>336850924
It's cause they aren't gamers, they are just businessman who are out of touch with the customers.
>>336850964
Except, you know, the heal/armor/ammo pickups that can be found int he level like the original games.
>>336851276
>>336851106
Come on now guys, you know these new generations with console fingers can't handle shooters that require any sort of speed or precision aiming, that's a thing of the past
ITS 2 0 1 6 COME ONE
This is going to be another game gimped for ATI card owners, isn't it?
>>336851379
ah yeah, the level explicitly named Dead Simple
>>336851371
You're retarded
>>336851379
People criticize Doom 2's level design all the time in /v/ and /vr/ and consider it inferior to Doom 1
>>336851228
>That's all of 4chan though
Oh boy, someones new.
Maybe stick to /a/ there, weeb.
>>336851371
both are shit, and le FielD 1 has nothing to do with world war 1, it's a reskin of battlefront and will play like the same console piece of shit shooter it is
>>336851451
Yeah and it wasn't the only one, smartass.
>>336851508
This is an anime website, newfriend.
>>336843884
He had the Haste pickup for like 50% of the video
But yes, NuDoom is definitely faster then the average shooter nowadays. You could see it in the MP Beta
>>336851195
>So what you're saying is having a player to press E on walls until they find a hidden door with a green armor pick-up behind it is "exploration."
It is exploration. Not a requirement, but it is exploration. Instead you have to try looking in corners and not running to the end of the level.
I'm not, but I'm not the only person in this thread to tell you off either. If we're going by people who have played it and majority, then you're flat out wrong.
>>336851195
>Here's a truth: You're not only arguing ad hominem but you're also doing so in a case where it is factually false.
Neither of those are truths. I've got on you for your whole post, and have given an explanation of my position on the debate. You're clearly not aware of what claims you're making here.
>>336851551
yeah I would have never expected a map named Traps and Tricks to trigger hordes of enemies to spawn unexpectedly.
>>336851379
Yes, Doom 2 had a ton of shitty levels. Doom 4 is looking to be even more mindless in that regard.
>>336851508
>autistic zelda fan
>talks shit about weebs on 4chan
>>336851592
And he was a dumb weeb shit poster, what's your point.
>>336851508
>Oh boy, someones new.
haha what the fuck? You're the only newfag around here.
>>336851540
>its a reskin of Battlefront
>a Battlefield game will be a reskin of Battlefront
Oh boy, found /v/'s "I hate it because its popular" game of 2016
>>336851508
You're pathetic
>>336844468
>enemies literally stagger around, doing nothing
The dude literally almost died numerous times and he was spazzing all over the place without stopping even once.
>every dead enemy drops HP items
He'd be dead in the first few seconds if it weren't for those 5 HP items
>those fucking "cinematic" opening sequences every 5 seconds
Honestly, in contrast to how fast he was going, those are nigh unnoticeable. They're also not that long.
>>336843884
Just because you have a fast move speed doesn't mean the game is fast paced.
>Action constantly broken up by menus
>little animation that pauses the game for 5 seconds every 30 seconds
>enemies just fucking sit there
>health pick ups galore
>no tension
>everything just sits there waiting for you to kill it
ehh
>>336851551
managing hordes of enemies and your restricted resources is a big part of doom
cant do that in the new "max 6 guys at once all dropping shit" doom
>>336851852
here is news for your not informed brain
it's popular because casuals are the biggest buyers on the market
now go be a meme somewhere else
>>336851664
>If we're going by people who have played it and majority, then you're flat out wrong.
If we're going by logic and reasoning you're dropping fallacies left and right.
>I've got on you for your whole post, and have given an explanation of my position on the debate
Your position based on conjecture and no facts. Imaginary "lazy level design" and accusing other people of being underage for disagreeing with you.
>>336851304
I wanted good level design that forces strategic item management, not NEVER RESUPPLY EVER. I guess whoever designed the new doom convinced himself that making everything "DUDE BRUTAL LMAO" was enough to make it a good game.
The movement speed of the new UT is actually the same as the new doom. The hitboxes are just smaller.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7RPJj7djg8
>>336850142
>It's only 26 years old
>not underage
Faggot anything under 30 means you are a millennial mouth-breather who was complicit in the destruction of anything game or nerd related and you should kill yourself.
>>336843884
It's already looking better than Doom 3 to me (which for my money was a solid 7-8/10)
Classic Doom can't be replaced. These days it's less a game and more a platform. So many WADs and mods, you could (perhaps literally) play them until the end of your life
NuDoom is just another take on the formula and setting. See it as a AAA, paid WAD if you must. It's there if you want to see these familiar monsters and weapons inside a different overall experience. Which was basically what Doom 3 was, as well
>>336852190
honestly family, if you are literally unable to differentiate between classic doom's level design and new doom's "here's the first three enemies, make sure do vaccum up the twenty thousand health packs they drop. okay now here's the next five" level design, you just might be functionally retarded.
>>336852190
>If we're going by logic and reasoning you're dropping fallacies left and right.
If that's all you can say, regardless of truth, then we may as well stop. You just claim "conjecture" at every term and hurl insults instead of giving addressing anything.
>>336852190
>Imaginary "lazy level design"
You either can't read or don't attempt it. I wasn't the one who said that.
I called you underage because of you're habits, not your opinion.
>>336852141
>m-muh casls
No, casuals are buying this shit
Casuals are going to have a shitty time trying to use WWI weapons
>>336852650
>If that's all you can say, regardless of truth, then we may as well stop.
Okay.
>>336852650
>it's an intellectual discussion on /v/ episode
wew laddie
>>336852525
>See it as a AAA, paid WAD if you must
That makes it fucking worse idiot
>>336849840
>Instead of having to manage your aggression in a fight, manage both your positioning and your enemies' positioning in relation to item pickups
You mean holing up behind a wall near health pickups while picking off enemies one at a time so you won't die so fast and grab HP kits whenever you need? Gee how fun.
>>336843884
Faster than your standard FPS. Faster than I expected from all the shitposting.
>that FOV
>that movespeed
No bunnyhopping yet though, and
>minimaps
>pausing the game every 30 seconds to check the map/objectives
They had better fix this shit.
>>336852732
lmao that accidental comma
memed urself
and it's going to be casul central
>>336852803
>it's an intellectual discussion on /v/ episode
Not even the issue. All he's doing is saying "Nu uh!" over and over. It's just a waste of both of our time.
>>336852482
>d-do I fit in yet guys?
>>336852525
>See it as a paid WAD if you must
Well, it is bethesda after all.
>>336852815
People expecting to be even 5% as influential and industry-shattering as Classic Doom are the real idiots. The best it can hope is to be good while still hitting these important nostalgia keys
The "DUDE SPEED LMAO" faggots think this game could be as great as Classic Doom if only it was a bit faster than it is and had more maze-like level design. They are completely delusional
>>336852876
To be honest famicon, I prefer to actually press e like an idiot looking for secrets because I fucked up and now I'm low on health than having most enemies turned into resources piñatas. Also that kind of scenario you're describing won't happen in any decently designed level.
>>336852876
What kind of idiot would design an encounter with such terrible item and enemy placement as you describe?
>>336852732
>Casuals are going to have a shitty time trying to use WWI weapons
They will give everyone automatic weapons. Everyone with bolt action wont happen. Too hard for console babbies.
>>336845937
I feel better now.
I knew it wasn't that much slower than the originals, but I forgot just not-speedy they were.
Really it's just as much the feel in those as the actual speed-- you get to top speed immediately and IIRC you have a bit of momentum when you let off the run key.
What concerns me in the new one is how hard it is to read a scene, but then a lot of the time in the originals you'd have grey and brown blobs (zombies and imps) in a grey-brown environment. We'll see when we have non-potato footage.
>>336852876
>You mean holing up behind a wall near health pickups while picking off enemies one at a time so you won't die so fast and grab HP kits whenever you need?
>wasting resources like a retard
>you run out of health packs in your hole
>you're fucked
new doom:
>wasting resources like a retard
>lol just chainsaw a cyberdemon in one hit for twenty million items
>>336852987
Who the fuck wants it to be industry shattering? All I want is an old school shooter with modern graphics like they advertised, but they can't even get such a simple formula right. What we get instead is more hoard mode faggotry, as if we didn't have enough
I call this game Retard 4 instead of Doom 4.
>>336853064
new doom designers, of course.
>>336853184
Good luck getting near the Cyberdemon to melee him.
>>336853153
Nice stylized name you g⌀t there famzilla.
>>336853153
You feel better because you watched a video by a guy who apparently forgot that the sprint button exists?
>>336843884
Yeah I'm just not feeling it.
It looks sorta like Doom but it feels just so watered down and generic.
So. what happens when you die in D44M? You respawn at the start of the level or is there a checkpoint every 2 minutes?
>>336853325
>Good luck getting near the Cyberdemon to melee him.
it'll be very easy with the mandatory one or two powerups they put in the absolute center of the small ass locked arena.
>>336853457
Checkpoints. Ultra Nightmare mode has permadeath though
>>336851239
>stopping the game several times a minute isnt worth complaining about
>>336844468
>enemies literally stagger around, doing nothing
They are already dead.
>>336853457
It automatically saves right before you're forced into the 3-5 waves enemy encounter.
>>336853457
Do you even have to ask? Hell I wouldn't be surprised if pistol start was impossible.
>>336853542
>permadeath
You die and respawn at the start of the level without any weapons/armor?
>>336853107
>They will give everyone automatic weapons. Everyone with bolt action wont happen
Okay, so are you going to keep talking out of your ass and assuming?
>>336853660
No, you need to restart the game. Only on that mode, though
>>336853660
No you start a new campaign all over.
>>336853660
no, it just never saves and boots you to the main menu when you die. Because apparently that's what was missing from the classic doom formula.
>>336853660
>permadeath
>You die and respawn at the start of the level
>>336845937
>Using a nightmare run where he literally has to go at a snail's pace and cheese every enemy or camp til they spawn to insta kill for comparison
This isn't what 99.9% of people's experience with Doom was like
>>336852987
>The "DUDE SPEED LMAO" faggots think this game could be as great as Classic Doom if only it was a bit faster than it is and had more maze-like level design. They are completely delusional
They're not delusional but they may be autistic, because it would be much better that way *to them*. Have you seen the people that still play Doom? There's a reason /vr/ exists.
>>336852987
I just want a fast-paced FPS with good level design. I don't even consider Doom to be such an impossibly high standard to beat. The only reason it seems impossible is because no one in this day and age is willing to make the type of level designs that Doom had, except Romero I guess.
>>336844970
>Doom
>Cinematic sequences
No.
>>336843884
This looks fucking terrible holy shit.
I'm not going to say I'm hyped because I'm to cynical now a days to expect anything out of vidya but from what I've seen of the single-player it looks pretty good.
The only thing that put me off was the execution moves that slowed down the game and make the same 6 second animation over and over, but the devs said that you can remove that shit in the options so I find literally nothing wrong with the game for now apart from
>muh mazes
I like Doom 1 and 2 but I honestly hated the maze like nature of the maps. You can still make maps that focuses on exploration and secrets without making the map a confusing maze.
>>336854050
MB ur gu
>>336854159
bethesda twitch streamed show both "turn off glory kill hints" and "turn off glory kill" in options.
>>336853835
I didn't mean it that way. I meant that they completely ignore that what made Doom great was not properly its speed, but the fact it basically was a planets-line-up event that you can't expect to replicate
Despite coming after Wolf 3D, it was the introduction to the realistic world of FPS to many, including many nerds in IT
It was also violent and had heavy metal blaring in the background, which basically secured its popularity amongst teens and young adults back in the day. The 90s were the decade of grunge and MTV, and Doom was like a technology-pushing amalgamation of that aesthetic. Today being gory means nothing, it's do overdone - Classic Doom even looks tame compared to most new games
Doom is kinda like Mortal Kombat, it was a cultural event as much as it was a game. I happen to believe Doom has a lot more to it gameplay-wise than MK, but I'm not deluded enough to believe Doom's success wasn't due to it being "violent and realistic" and "you're killing monsters but it's like you're seeing what your guy is seeing!"
>>336854159
>Doom levels
>mazelike
Do you get lost in your own apartment? You seriously have to try to get lost, most of the levels are pretty small and consist of distinct-looking rooms. Your progress through them is fairly linear too. I swear to god you fags should cut this out, you're the reason developers don't even try anymore.
>>336854323
Reread my post nigga.
>>336854323
They only showed the option to turn off glory kill highlights, not disable the whole gameplay mechanic.
>>336853338
I forgot too. >_>
I haven't played it in like 5 years.
Here's some gameplay with it, for demonstration to anyone else who forgot or is a newfiend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhw2pbkypDI
There is the question though, how do we know there isn't a sprint function in single-player (just like how the "look I can hold every weapon in my teeth" thing is in single-player but not standard multiplayer)? How do we know they're not going to add that?
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>>336853751
That sounds like shit.
>>336854581
Too hardcore for you, huh?
>>336854581
the mode b4 it is the exact same minus the permadeath.
>>336853690
Have you watched the trailer?
Pure fantasy nonsense.
Bolt action is very bad for instant gratification. You have to aim and need skill to be good. Can just spray and hope to hit someone. It also makes the game much slower.
>>336854421
>I'm not deluded enough to believe Doom's success wasn't due to it being "violent and realistic" and "you're killing monsters but it's like you're seeing what your guy is seeing!"
This was 100% it tbqh
t. born in 1981and had "that kid" hand me a floppy with Doom shareware in HS
>>336854712
>Pure fantasy nonsense.
Oh yeah, because sitting in a trench with your friend's organs drenching you sounds like pure fun
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>>336854663
I'm not really sure what the point of that is. Don't get me wrong if you like it more power to you but this is the sort of thing better suited for an RPG or a survival game.
I'm worried about the existence of this is that it may imply that you can beat the single player in one sitting, meaning we might end up getting a six hour single player game or something. But maybe I'm just paranoid.
>>336854849
It's stream bait pham. You can obviously beat the game in one sitting if you've done it before. A fresh playthrough will take ~13h
>>336854849
it's 13 hour playing casually according to dev.
enemies spawns dont change across playthrough. and none of them are hitscan so beating it in 1 go is possible.
Just forget the new doom. If you want old school mp just play the new ut.
Its free and everything you niggers always want but no one is playing it.
>>336855141
Because nobody wants it.
>>336855140
Possible is one thing but are they really stupid enough to consider doing a no death run of a 10+ hour game a reasonable challenge? It's like they put 0 thought into that mode.
>>336855236
Its ironic.
All the time everyone is talking about how they dont make new old scholl stuff etc.
When they make it no one cares.
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>>336855140
>13 hours
Eh, the multiplayer doesn't look good enough to hold it up for me. If the single player turns out good I'd might buy when it's on sale.
>>336854841
My whole point was that it wont be realistic because casuals wont like it.
Im a Ro1&2 vet. (1>2)
>>336855398
It is "ultra nightmare" it isnt meant to be a reasonable challenge for everybody.
you still have the same mode without permadeath. Unless you want some stupid cheevos.
>>336855608
No, it won't be realistic because YOU CANNOT DO FUCKING ANYTHING WITH WW1 OTHER THAN SITTING IN A TRENCH FOR 50 MINUTES
>>336855815
>YOU CANNOT DO FUCKING ANYTHING WITH WW1 OTHER THAN SITTING IN A TRENCH FOR 50 MINUTES
Thats wrong.
Educate yourself about the stuff that wasnt western front (even there was movement).
>>336855815
>WWI was only the Western Front
>>336855815
Verdun did it alright without going nuts with automatics or unrealistic shit. All it takes is simulating an actual break/ fighting in the trenches and not two teams sitting miles away with only no man's land between them
>>336855815
even ubishit managed to make ww1 fun without disrespecting it. While using a cartoon artstyle and include humor here and there.
Even realistic multiplayer modern war dont sell as much as power fantasy multiplayer modern war. It's about the appeal of gameplay and presentation, not the subject matter.
>>336847150
But I genuinely hate some developers. Some non-vidya companies as well.
