Let's just take a minute to realize, Persona 5 and Final Fantasy XV are releasing in the same month. Like my weeb side is fucking going insane right now. Both of these games have been delayed so much but now it's really happening
What a glorious time to be alive. How are you avoiding death until September?
>SMT IV Apocalypse
>Persona 5
>Final Fantasy XV
>all in September
Holy fucking shit, if NIER 2 drops in September that would make things even more crazier
Ive never been able to play any SMT games because they look to weeby, the older ones have a generic nes look to them with penis demons right?
>>336809824
>Weeb side
kill yourself
>>336810190
>>336810356
How can Lightning even compete?
Only gays and fuyos are hyped for XV.
Straight males will get Persona 5.
Not hard at all.
>>336810016
Don't think Square will drop another game in September that would take away any attention from XV but it would be nice
Probably why we haven't heard jack shit about Kingdom Hearts 3 or Final Fantasy VII Remake all year. They don't want no spotlight off FF XV
>>336810473
is this the flattest ass in gaming ?
Not particularly interested in FFXV and P5 is only releasing in September for Japan, so I'll hold up just fine.
>>336809824
>implying you wont die before they get released
>>336810190
SMT isn't all that weeb, just Persona.
Is 2016 the year of Sony and Japan? Both are absolutely killing it this year
It's the PS2 days all over again
>>336810495
What about people who don't play games for waifus?
>>336810473
>implying
why does it matter FFXV will just outsell everything in the month of september i feel bad for anyone releasing a game in the same month and they got deus ex at the end of august making a chokehold for anything in between
>>336810779
I'm playing Nocturne and it's pretty weeb. Great game though
>>336809824
>How are you avoiding death until September?
By playing the leaked version of 7th Dragon III CODE: VFD
>>336810880
They play for sausage parties which XV is aimed at and thus the hype.
>>336810890
>>336810473
Why do Japs hate ass?
>>336811064
because otaku are pedophiles
>>336811064
The same reason why japanese largely prefer imoutos over superior teasing onee-sans.
>Those fucking menus and flashy styles in Persona 5
>That fucking balls to the walls crazy ass combat in Final Fantasy XV
If you aren't hyped for both games then you are a jaded piece of shit and the cancer that killed /v/ both look to be fantastic games
>>336811792
>That fucking balls to the walls crazy ass combat in Final Fantasy XV
It looks flashy, but have you actually played it? The original Kingdom Hearts is more fun.
>>336811064
because japanese women have ugly asses so the nips can't appreciate them properly
>>336811915
Yeah I played the Platinum Demo and the Episode Duscae demo as well. I really enjoyed it. Better than original KH combat but not better than KH 2 Final Mix
KH 2 Final Mix > XV > KH 1
>>336811792
>>That fucking balls to the walls crazy ass combat in Final Fantasy XV
Not an RPG combat therefore trash.
Now accept that you are gay and just want to play for the sausage fest.
>>336811792
I agree. Both games are my top anticipated this year. This year is so fucking good for games. Fuck. Blood and Wine soon, No Mans Sky soon, Uncharted 4 next week, Monster Hunter Generations in July, Persona 5 and FFXV in September, Nier Automata sometime this year as well. Also I am Setsuna is launching in July as well.
Like fuck, so many good games. Dont forget Dark Souls 3 just came out and its going to get its DLC before the year ends too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKZtJmt85ns
>Trailer been up for two days
>Already over a million views
How does it feel knowing Persona is now mainstream /v/? Will Atlus turn it into shit to appeal to casual and normalfags?
>>336812157
>implying
stay mad
>>336812270
It's already casual.
>>336812270
>Will Atlus turn it into shit to appeal to casual and normalfags?
They already did it though.
>>336812270
Atlus exists in a bubble. It's the same reason they don't know PC exists, the same reason they don't know Europe exists, the same reason they don't do dual audio despite literally everyone else doing it. On the good side, this means they're cut off from negative influences. Everything going to shit is entirely their fault.
>>336810190
smt is probably the least "weeby" looking jrpg series of them all, you're insane.
>>336812072
>KH 2 Final Mix > XV > KH 1
100% correct opinion
>>336809824
I hope we get a confirmed NA release date for P5 soon.
>>336812646
That guy is one of the "its japanese therfore weeb" camp i believe.
>>336809824
>weeb side
But which game has the better waifus?
>>336812270
at least 400 of those views is me.
>>336812771
At e3 we will get a late october release date.
>>336813454
No contest.
>>336813454
FFXV by a landslide
>>336813454
At least P5 is open to the chance of straight romance, all XV opens up is the playable characters assholes.
>>336810190
Persona is the one that went full generic weeb trash filled with fanservice to the ass with persona 3. SMT IV Final/Apocalypse is also trash in this regard because persona is leaking onto it, but the others are fine. SMT IV is kinda shitty as well but tolerable. They are the least weeb jrpgs out there as well.
>>336811915
I lost every single bit of my hype for this game the minute I played the demo. It looks terrific but it plays like fucking ass. Everything is fucking automated. What a massive fucking letdown.
>>336813927
>Taro will be releasing the superior Square Enix action RPG
Just sad.
>>336812270
>now
It was mainstream the minute persona 3 came out and you waifu shitters ruined a franchise that had a completely different and higher quality tone.
>>336813764
>Short hair dyke
>Another short hair dyke
>A white slut with stupid pigtails
>Disgusting neet with meme glasses
>>336814063
I wanted to play nier just for the story alone. The fact it has outstanding combat is just icing on the cake. This shit is going to be fucking perfect.
>>336814095
>>336814095
>Short hair makes you a dyke
If I'm new to the SMT series (I've only beaten P3FES) should I start with Nocturne, DDS, DeS or SMTIV?
>>336814362
All all great games, start with nocturne
>>336814362
Nocturne
>>336814362
Soul Hackers is currently on sale on the eshop.
>>336814362
I'm currently playing Nocturne and it is fun as fuck and strangely addicting. I've heard people say it's hard as fuck but I haven't encountered that much difficulty so far. Currently at Great Underpass of Ginza
>>336814234
Damm did the creators realize they made the top fap material in Velma?
>>336811792
>>That fucking balls to the walls crazy ass combat in Final Fantasy XV
Yeah, auto attack and auto dodge. Balls to the wall.
>dungeon crawler with cute anime girls
>KH clone with host club party
Take your pick, cuck.
>>336814665
>KH clone
I wish. KH was fun.
>>336814598
>>336814597
>>336814493
>>336814479
Okay, thanks
Is DDS worth trying? I've heard that the last dungeons in DDS2 take place on the outer layers of the Sun and that intrigued me
>>336814095
That's how the weebs in Japan like 'em right now, brother. Straight weeb pandering, 'cause that's their primary audience.
Remember: Japanese games made in Japan by Japanese developers aimed at Japanese fans and Japanese gamers aren't made with American fans/gamers in mind. You'll be lucky if they change sushi to hamburgers in the translation.
>>336814665
>/v/ ALWAYS find a way to try and shit on promising good games
I hate this place so much but yet I'm still always here
>>336814638
wownice meme!!
hey everyone he posted it again! what aa madman!!! :D
>>336814362
DDS has a mostly human party like P3 but they can turn into demons and you learn skills to equip the characters.
DeS if you mean Devil Survivor its an srpg so if you like say FFT or Fire Emblem you can play it.
In Nocturne your party is entirely made of demons (The Personas you use) and fusion plays a great role into part strenghtening.
Any is face as those still follows the basic rules of P3 which is exploit weakness.
>>336814753
DDS 1&2 is a dualogy so you should play 1 and 2 in that order.
And every SMT games is worth it. Should consider the Raidou games which are action RPGs.
>>336814753
DDS is great, but the PSN versions a shit, be warned.
>>336812270
>a Japanese trailer titled in Japanese for a Japanese game from a Japanese develepor with a strong following in Japan since 1995 is popular
the end of days indeed
this is why nearly every country on the globe hates North America. you asshats are obnoxiously self-centered.
>>336814934
>promising good games
FFXV is not that after the demos.
>>336814665
I think I'll go with the dungeon crawler with cute anime girls senpai, I don't see any host club parties in Persona 5 though
>>336814934
You just have to wade through the shoulder deep cynicism to find the diamonds you're looking for. Most people who say that kind of shit are just sad, cynical sacks of shit who have long since alienated their friends in real life and are thus forced here to /v/ to spout stupid bullshit all day 'cause this is the only social interaction they'll get in the course of their day, and is the only thing between them and a bag of helium tied around their neck for a few minutes.
Atlus and Square should work together to make a new raidou game tbhoniifam
>>336815129
>People in every country have an opinion on the US
>People in the US don't even need to know the names of other countries
Looks like we're self-centered for a reason.
>>336815042
>Devil Survivor its an srpg so if you like say FFT or Fire Emblem
Oh shit, I've been looking for a good srpg for a long time. Thanks.
>they can turn into demons and you learn skills to equip the characters.
So it's less complicated, right?
>Raidou games
I'll play them after Nocturne, DDS and DeS.
Thank you.
>>336815083I'll emulate them
>>336815368
>So it's less complicated, right?
You just select an skill to learn from a savepoint and then you fight until you learn it.
If i were to compare it would be FF9 ability learning system.
>>336815368
Do note though that despite being an SRPG... there's not a lot of strategy. Or rather, almost all of it is in your party and skill composition rather than in moving your units in a way that makes sense.
>>336815556
It's more like FFXII's license grid but not shit. Especially DDS2s.
>>336815294
America's the best country. If we're self-centered, it's because no other country can compete, and thus, they're not at all important. All that's left in competition is 'You guys used to be scared of us, now we drink vodka all day.', 'Today a Muslim mayor, tomorrow sharia law.' and 'We used to run shit, but since our government is corrupt and completely incapable, we're one wrong move from crashing the entire world economy.'.
So to distract themselves from the fact that their countries are shit holes, they busy themselves by having opinions on the US and, for some reason, love to stick their nose into our politics, as if anyone gave a shit about their opinion.
But I digress.
Persona 5 looks fun, and so does FFXV. I may get both eventually.
>>336815605
Thats one good too.
>>336809824
>FFXV
>Nier:A
>Persona 5
>KHII.8
>TLG
>NiOh
Literally god-tier year in japanese vidya
>>336815587
Well, that's not a problem - I really enjoyed FFTA, and I spent most of my time planning devastating skill combinations and learning spells. I love that kind of stuff.
>>336815556
Okay, so it's standard RPG learning system.
>>336814095
>yuri in a p5 game
only yaoi anon
only yaoi
>>336815806
Yes, also forgot that the game also has a fusion system like P3 but with more depth.
>>336809824
I don't even know why people are excited about FF XV when it's been 16 years since the last good one.
>>336810016
Not unless you speak Nip. But SE also has DE:MD for August 23, so the early autumn is still amazing. As for Nier, the producer said last year that it should be coming fairly soon after FFXV.
>>336816115
*10
>>336816189
FFXII was such shit the re-release completely overhauled the skill learning system and the rest of the gameplay.
>>336816189
FF XII wasn't that great either. The only reason why it's even increased in popularity is because the people who played it as kids grew up.
>>336815936
I would be fine with it because the only character with good designs are male.
Atlus dropped the ball so hard. I didn't wait all these years for this
>>336816014
Meant spell fusion system since there is no demon fusion in DDS.
>>336816403
>Doesn't like the game because the female designs aren't good enough
Persona 3/4 fans are the worst.
>>336816123
>DE:MD
?? ??
Spoonfeed me.
>>336812646
You don't know what weeb is, even then going by what you mean since you're retarded i'll tell you:
SMT is literally filled with anime characters and stereotypes, not to mention the plot of every game.
>>336816638
Where the shit did I imply I don't like the whole game simply because I don't like half of the characters you ultimate dumbfuck.
>>336816687
Deus Ex, mate. Not a Jap game, but it should be great too.
>>336816687
The next Deus Ex.
>>336816771
SMT is a typical chunni fantasy, but don't tell him
>>336816771
The mainline SMT games prior to IV weren't that weeb, but neo-Persona is almost Neptunia-tier otaku-bait.
>>336814597
anon...youre about to find out what makes it so hard
>>336817014
>The mainline SMT games prior to IV weren't that weeb
They were ultimate chuunishit, the type of weebs normalfags hates the most since they're the most vocal
>>336816771
Thats not weeb though, you dont know what that is.
>>336816896
It isnt, the MCs are the less chuuni protagonist in any media.
>>336817217
The MC are plenty chuuni, and then there's the rest of the game.
>>336817146
It was chuuni, but it wasn't cheap waifu-bait. There is a difference.
>>336811064
I live in Japan. Asses don't really exist so they don't know what's good.
>>336817318
They arent, the MCs are the most normal you can find.
They rely heavily on demons.
>>336812270
Persona has been mainstream and casualized since 3. Arguably 4.
>>336817417
Ironically, they make the best facesitting porn if you into the heavy suffocation stuff. Or they used to, I don't know if Yapoo's Market is still in business.
>>336814095
>not liking short hair that isn't a pixiecut
Disgusting faggot
>>336817337
Kek sure it wasn't, sure.
>>336815368
It's easier than Nocturne since you don't have to forget skills.
>>336817636
You dont get to fuck her though.
People thinks that just having a girl in a game is waifubait but it isnt.
>>336817541
Yeah, it's crazy how every ffm threesome has facesitting.
>>336817217
The games are chuuni, not the MCs. The MCs have next to no personality on their own and are meant for self-inserting, which leads to chuuni when you go from normalfag to overthrowing and overpowering nigh-omnipotent gods.
P5 Day 1
FFXV wait until bargain bin
>>336817793
You don't fuck anyone in Neptunia too. I guess that means it's not waifubait.
Why are they putting Kingdom Hearts gameplay into Final Fantasy?
>>336817014
>The mainline SMT games prior to IV weren't that weeb
Kek,
>joining sides with Lucifer to fight god
>Not weeb
Nigger SMT is literally edge and chunni incarnated.
But how am I supposed to beat Persona 5 in two weeks? Probably won't buy until after FFXV now.
>>336817793
>People thinks that just having a girl in a game is waifubait
Welcome to neo-/v/ and reddit
>>336817919
No but they are filled with yuri fanservice which is a form of Otaku pandering (Which is why the Neptunia with a SI/pairing option gets so much bad rep).
>>336817861
But the very meat of chuuni is the MC. If the Mc isnt chuuni then the whole thing doesnt work.
>>336818010
Yeah, you can make everything waifubait if your only qualification is having a girl in it.
Since people are talking about mainline SMT, how is SMT II? I'm playing the first one and while I liked it for awhile, it started getting boring after the apocalypse (which is disappointing because the post-apocalyptic dystopia is what I was looking forward to the most). I'm in Shinagawa and I'm not sure I'll be able to finish it because I've just lost interest.
If I do duck out early, should I give the second one a shot or just move onto Nocturne?
>>336809824
Won't be buying FFXV.
Never finished a FF game, they bore me to death.
>>336816115
From a GAME standpoint, Lightning Returns is incredible. The gameplay is fantastically fun. There is plenty of sidequest and exploration
From a STORY standpoint, it's absolute horseshit. One of the worse stories in video game history.
So if you balance out the 10/10 gameplay with the 1/10 story, you get a good game
>>336817943
Because Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix is the greatest Action RPG of all time
>>336818295
Chuunishit is also otaku pandering, and the MC doesn't matter much in chuuni works.
>>336818682
They matter a lot actually.
>>336818295
>No but they are filled with yuri fanservice which is a form of Otaku pandering (Which is why the Neptunia with a SI/pairing option gets so much bad rep).
I remember a lot of Yuribait in DDS and other SMTs.
>But the very meat of chuuni is the MC. If the Mc isnt chuuni then the whole thing doesnt work.
>he was created to defeat YHVH
>Not chunni
>Yeah, you can make everything waifubait if your only qualification is having a girl in it.
You do know what a waifu is right fucktard? Because it seems that you don't. Waifu doesn't mean character that you romance.
And by the way, a lot of demons are made to be waifus and husbandos, literally otaku pandering.
>>336818295
>But the very meat of chuuni is the MC. If the Mc isnt chuuni then the whole thing doesnt work.
But that's exactly why having the player self-insert as the MC is the cuuni-est option possible. Sure, you can play them like any DRPG, but at their core they were always meant to have chuunis self-insert and feel like they're the ones slapping everyone's shit. It's why SMT1's protagonist is a generic-looking and generic-named nerd who only ever talks when the player makes a choice.
>>336809824
>How are you avoiding death until September?
Working and makin dosh. Can't wait for SMT IV Apocalypse either.
>>336818848
Personality is irrelevant because silent protagonists are literally self inserts.
The MC doesn't matter because the world is already CRAWLING IN MY SKIN with demons, angels, monsters, gods or whatever.
If you don't think this is the definition of chunnibyo fantasy then you're in denial, which you are.
>>336818303
Probably move one.
Personally i found SMT 2 less fun than SMT 1 and i played both at the same time.
That said the story is pretty good, the first game doesnt has that much in the way of the story besides the premise.
Give it a hot i guess, maybe the beggining will hook you more than 1.
>>336818909
>>336819118
The MC is a SI but he isnt awesome or even useful since he relies on others powers instead of his own.
>>336818892
There wasnt much, just Jinana and Argilla agreeing in the fate of the world, heck in DDS 2 is shown that Argilla is full hetero.
Waifu means wife. Which means getting into a relationship that will end with the female being a wife in the end is a form of waifubait which doesnt happen in SMT (You die in 1 and you get REKT in 2, so no waifu for them)
>>336818892
yuri bait is disgusting why do people like it? it never goes anywhere
>>336814362
SMT II you pussy
>>336814597
>Currently at Great Underpass of Ginza
PFFFFFFTTT, You are going to find out very shortly anon.
>>336819427
Everyone hate that it never goes anywhere. Even the devs and writers themselves
>>336814753
Gameplay is quite different compared to other SMT games. You play as humans who transform into demons and can switch between both forms. You have something called the mantra grid which you use to learn new abilities. Unlike in other SMT were you have a skill and stick with it until you decide to change it, in DDS you keep all of your skills but can switch them all out of battle whenever you feel like it. This isn't limited to Serph(MC) either, every character can have their abilities customized. They're pretty fucking good for newcomers, just don't expect to find another SMT game with a similar system.
>>336809824
Except it's not NA release for P5 in Sept;_;
>>336809824
>P5/FFXV
absolute shit taste, even for a weeb dude.
Why we can't have cools things like a new Strange Journey in this gen?
>>336821009
>Strange Journey
Kek, weeb.
>>336821078
Strange Journey is a game made for westaboos, anon.
>>336821404
>>336820204
>>336817076
w-what am I in for?
>>336822336
The filter that separates casuals and masochists
>>336822336
A really nice ass.
>>336821078
>Takes place in Antarctica rather than Tokyo
>Main character is a US Marine rather than some Japanese kid.
>Still calls it weeb.
>>336821009
>Why we can't have cools things like a new Strange Journey in this gen?>>
Because the japs didnt support it because muh Tokyo and muh teen protag.
>>336822336
A duel
>>336822707
He's only a US marine in the 'murrican version.
>>336810016
>SMT IV apocalypse
>September
That's just a placeholder date. The only thing official Atlus has said is "Summer"
>>336810940
I'd love to hear your definition of weeb
>>336823507
Huh. So he is. Not trying to brag or anything, but man I'm glad I can just play games in Japanese, pointless changes annoy me.
>>336822336
A Matador
>>336822336
a fiendish encounter
it might help if you know how to grab the pull by its horns
you might find yourself seeing red
>>336810473
Looks like she's winning though, somehow
>>336824034
>pointless changes annoy me.
It wasnt pointless, SJ was created to have international appeal and so the devs went as far as to ask to change the MC origin in the localization as it fits with the game setting of being a multinationl colaboration mission(Thats why MC is the less japanese looking protag in a while)
>>336824383
Oh is that so? Guess I should have researched a little more before I said anything then. I thought it was weird since, from what I hear, SMT games don't change things willy-nilly anymore (I don't know if they ever did, though I know the first Persona did).
>>336814638
It isn't, you have manual attack combos with directional inputs and manual dodge rolls, blocks and perfect guards.
>>336811915
It wasn't and KH also requires less input than XV does.
>>336813927
It's not though, did you even actually try playing it or did you just mash a single button and spam fire on IG then just went straight to the end? Actually try the battle system with the shield, the shuriken and make of of directional inputs and proper timed hits, it's not automated at all
>>336813454
XV.
>>336813809
XV literally starts with the MC going to marry his girlfriend and all the guys hit on girls along the way.
>>336813764
Man those are weak compared to XV girls, they just look like the same character with different hairstyles.
>>336824581
Main reason why it didnt took place in Tokyo and didnt got a numbered tittle.
>>336824702
>XV literally starts with the MC going to marry his girlfriend and all the guys hit on girls along the way.
Starts that way but then he goes in a road trip with his male harem.
>>336818303
I think SMT II's story is the most interesting in the series.
But if you seem to be finding I boring just because, you'll probably dislike II since the gameplay is largely the same.
I also like SMT I a lot personally, the only thing that got to me was the encounter rate on the water overworld, but that was about it.
>>336822336
You're just having a little talk with someone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7KSHyF_X2M&index=18&list=LLQlUMYjlRglKJHukD9N1U5Q
>>336809824
>try XV demo
>MC runs like a slug
>hitting with weapons is shit
>levels looked nice but had no content
It's gonna be shit
>>336824383
>SJ was created to have international appeal
>No euro release
Oh Atlus, you never cease to make me laugh/cry.
>>336814665
You mean walking simulator VN with 4 highschool slender pretty boys and 4 lightning tier background girls
Or massive open world Action RPG with tons of freedom and to scale and what you can do with two pretty boys, three men and girls who come and go at varying times.
All the guys in Persona look like hostclub pretty boys while only there is only two pretty boys in XV and every other male looks like an actual man.
>>336824581
SJ was the first SMT game that from the very beginning was meant to release in the West as well as Japan.
Nocturne only got localized after it's Maniax edition, SJ came out only a few months after it's initial Jap release. The few changes they made were just the make it less Japanese centric.
>>336815137
Yes it is, if not more so since the combat actually shows more depth than KH ever did. Like seriously did you even fucking play them? Weapon switching alone requires more input than anything in KH did.
>>336816115
I don't know why people people don't know that different FFs are made by different dev teams.
P5 wait until bargain bin.
XV day 1.
>>336825374
Don't they usually alternate, so one team worked on the even numbered ones and the other worked on the odds?
>>336824898
I'll try to push on through SMT I, take a break, maybe play Persona 4 in the meantime since I still need to play it, and then try SMT II. I'm getting bored with the first game I think because it just feels like I keep going through mazes, fighting demons, fusing demons, and repeating. But then I did basically the same thing in Persona 1 and I thought it was great.
>>336819440
Should play 1 before 2, and neither are a good place to start.
>>336825525
I am pretty amazed u could deal with p1 but not smt1
>>336824897
>Starts that way but then he goes in a road trip with his male harem.
No it starts with him going on his road trip with his royal guard, his royal strategist and his friend from their school days because he's going to he wedding to marry his girlfriend, they hit on women along their journey, then his kingdom is invaded and a war breaks out and things happen.
P5 has 4 homos in the party who try to pretend to not be gay by having girls hang around even though they are all dykes themselves.
>>336825374
I do know that, but it doesn't change the fact that that FF has been terrible for far more than a decade.
Personally don't have much interest in final fantasy but that Persona 5 trailer was fantastic looking so I'm pretty excited. I hope that the western release isn't too far behind the jap releasesorry yurobros
Don't know why some fags need to make this a competition though.
This entire summer is going to be pretty good though
>Zero Time Dilemma
>SMT IV Apocalypse
>Monster Hunter Generations
>Dragon Quest VII and VIII
>GGXrd Revelator
I'm sure I'm missing some right now
>>336825525
That's literally all you do in every SMT game.
How did P1's encounter rate not make you want to kill yourself though?
>>336825504
No it's always a different team, sometimes you have some people like art directors, character designers and stuff work on multiple entries but the entire teams are never the same, and in XVs case it's completely different team to FF13 and FF14, the only thing in common with 13 is that Nomura did the main character design, which he also did on 7, 8, 10 and on the Elvaan/Hume class in 11.
>>336825760
So what? What does that have to do with anything regarding XV when it's not even relevant to anything? You might as well say that because Metroid Other M was shit that the next Zelda is going to be shit.
I don't really care for Persona, but the XV footage we saw at Uncovered looks really good though, really feel like this will return FF to form.
>>336825776
>How did P1's encounter rate not make you want to kill yourself though?
It did at times. I think both Persona 2s were even worse.
>>336825592
Maybe it's because it had actual characters and some story in it. I don't normally require either, I like other 80s RPGs with no character and little to no story, but I don't know, I guess SMT I's gameplay probably isn't doing enough for me. Still, I'll try the other games in the series. II, and if that fails, Nocturne, and if that's a bust, Strange Journey.
>>336825961
The same company ultimately puts that team together from the same larger pool.
I'm not that guy and I don't necessarily agree with him but precedent isn't entirely irrelevant at this point. If someone was disappointed with the last 5-7 final fantasy games, there's definitely room for precedent there because by and large the same staff is still there within the company.
>>336825961
I'm just judging by a pattern that's been going on for 16 years and been getting increasingly worse. Your Other M/Zelda example isn't quite the same thing. Now, if you said that Nintendo's been producing generally shit game for years and the next Zelda or Metroid or whatever would likely be shit as well, that'd make sense.
>>336811064
I wish they do. Ass is disgusting and they can't stop using it for fanservice.
>>336809824
>The two most over-hyped feature-length anime are being released in the same month
Good, then people can get over them sooner.
>>336826154
>The same company ultimately puts that team together from the same larger pool.
That matters fuck all, Nintendo had Team Ninja make Other M and also put the team for Zelda U toghethehr, by your logic Zelda U is going to be shit because Metroid Other M was shit.
Every FF is completely different from the last and entirely separate, the teams are too and since 2013 SE has been split up into separate business divisions when they restructured the entire company.
XV team and Luminous Engine team is Business Division 2, the former FF13/FF10 team who are working on FF7R is Business Division 1, the KH3 team is Business Division 3 over at Osaka studio, the Dissidia/Theatrhythm team is Business Division 4, the FF14/ARR/DQ10 team is Business Division 5, Business Division 6 is various IPs like Nier, Star Ocean and so on, and Business Division 7 is the DQ main division along with the Bravely one, BD8 has no details now and was formerly the cloud gaming division, BD9 and 10 are mobile divisions, BD 11 and 12 and the browser divisions.
FF13 was the last mainline single player FF and it has nothing to do with FFXV, same with FF14 having nothing to do with it, same with FF12, 11, 10 and so on
In fact FFXV team which is Business Division 2 is has former FF7 devs on it and is mainly comprised on those FF7 devs who later went to become the KH1/KH2 team, people from handheld games like Type-0 and Crisis Core, and the Luminous Engine development team along with the advanced technology department who do R&D for new tech.
>>336826330
See above, the Other M Zelda thing is the same, they are different dev teams making Nintendo games
Haven't been following persona 5 hype train for a while. Does it come out in states in September or is that its japan release?
>>336827026
Japan release
>Pick a cancelled PS3 spin-off action game
>call it FFXV
Why Neo Square is so fucking lazy? It's worst than remake a turn based RPG into a generic Kingdom Hearts clone.
>>336817417
So they have blonde hair and huge boobs? Retard.
>>336827076
Thank you for a speedy response.
>>336809824
You keep saying that but you dont know how it feels when it happens to you, Ive just got diagnosed with a hodgkins lymphoma and they say it could kill me in 9 months or 3 years, I just wanted to play videogames and whenever I start them I just lack the will to go on
>>336827026
Japan release
No word on state release, but they're doing something at E3 so
>>336827026
Persona 5 is Japan only in September
Western release is not announced yet
>>336826890
And all that means nothing because most of what S-E puts out that isn't Dragon Quest is shit anyway.
>>336827156
Either:
- Accept that you're going to die and have as much fun with video games until that time comes
- Spend time with friends and family as much as you can
>>336827091
Versus was always being made as if it was a mainline FF in scale, it was Versus XIII because it was being made as a different direction for what the 13th mainline FF could have been, one specifically the opposite of FF13, hence Versus XIII, literally against XIII. It never got a proper development pipeline down because it was never given priority and put on hold for a number of years, then in 2012 they rebooted Versus into XV because it was always mainline FF in terms of scale and they wanted to distance itself from the FF13 name too so that they weren't hindered by it even by association.
FF has always been moving towards more real time based combat too ever since FF4 when they introduced the ATB system making FF time based, then over the number of years they tried different things with ATB, then by FF12 they introduced real time movement in single player FF and made the ADB system being the first real time combat single player FF though still with ATB menus, and now after years they are finally going the next step by going even more real time to the point that it's Action combat for Noctis, and the other party members have an ATB bar and menu based commands in real time with this system called AXB, a cross between two systems
It's not like KH as XV requires more button inputs than any KH to do things, and it's an open world RPG so it's bringing back the world map, towns, vehicles and different mods of transport than FF was always known for in the FF1-9 days.
Also FF9 was originally a spinoff called FF Gaiden before becoming FF9
FF10 was originally a new IP called Seventeen, it wasn't even originally an FF game
FF12 in it's early stages was originally going to be an Ivalice MMO after the success of FF11 before being rebranded as FF12.
>>336809824
By not having my life revolve around game hype release due to proximity of recent announcements, follow news as it comes out and do other things in the meantime like a normal rational person than get the game if I want to buy it when it comes out. Pretty damn easy
>>336827424
Oh fuck off.
>>336811001
No that's not how this works. Not everyone that buys this games is some form of weaboo
>>336811001
Are you retarded?
>>336814081
Fuck man just play SMT IV if it bothers you that much. Still not sure why everyone feels the need to whine constantly about everything
>>336809824
>Persona 5 and Final Fantasy XV are releasing in the same month.
Where?In the West?I don't think so.
>>336827424
But only DQ3, DQ5 and DQ8 is good, DQ9 is shit, DQ10 is shit, the spinoffs are shit.
>>336817014
Not....really...like at all
>>336810694
Let me help you.
>>336827938
>Where? In the west?
Why ask a question and then purposefully answer wrongfully to "make a point"? You know where, and you also know it's not the west, yet you limit the answer by not allowing the answer to be said to you so that you can act like an idiot to feel special. You are only achieving making yourself look retarded.
>>336827938
Yeah I really don't know what the point of this thread is.
One is releasing in the west in september while the other is releasing in japan in september.
>>336818010
It's just....like it's something is what I'm arriving at. Like the things that people will freak out over now. This has something perfectly expected in it therefore I am angry BRAAAAAH ragefacememe.jpg look at me I'm important on the internet cause I'm MAaaaaaaaaad!
>>336821009
Because if we got that you'd whine about how they're neglecting Persona. Also the thing you're looking for is called SMT IV: Final. Stop whining here and go play it.
>>336827948
DQ IV is pretty good too, at least if you can read Japanese and play a good version. VII 3DS is cool, but long as fuck. I agree about DQ IX though.
>>336809824
>>336828323
Why does this picture exist?
>>336828323
Kinda cool seeing both games have different art direction. The best thing is, I'm getting both.
>>336828521
Showing screenshots of both P5 and XV of comparable context?
>>336828582
But only maybe three of those make sense, the rest is so forced it's hilarious.
>a menu and driving
>battle cut-ins and a piece of promo art
>a stylized phone and a map & Cidney's tits
>two pictures which share... blue lights
>>336828521
because FF15 fanboys are worried that Persona 5 is going to be better
>>336828902
Or they just don't give a shit or might even give both. Funny thought I know and probably something nobody has considered because it's all about pitting x against y for the theater of it all like that old CNN show Crossfire.
>>336828896
The P5 shows the stylish menu UI while the XV side shows how it's minimalist style UI
That shows promo art of the party to promo art of the party
That shows again the menu of P5 to a the menu of XV
Blue visual effects in battle
>>336828902
No, no one is. I mean it's impossible that someone might be looking forward to two games at once, right?
is there a bigger version of that pic on the left?
>>336829049
>The P5 shows the stylish menu UI while the XV side shows how it's minimalist style UI
The XV screenshot does not convey this, considering the "UI" part is relegated to a corner.
>That shows promo art of the party to promo art of the party
Even taking P5's screenshot as "promo art", it doesn't even show half the party, making the comparison sort of pointless.
>That shows again the menu of P5 to a the menu of XV
This one I sort of get now, although it's still two very different menus to compare.
>Blue visual effects in battle
P5's screenshot is not battle.
I get the intent I suppose, but I believe there's not enough material for proper comparisons, especially on the Persona side (they gave us what, 10 minutes of footage total?).
>>336812270
>Will Atlus turn it into shit to appeal to casual and normalfags?
It's been this way since Persona 1 back in 1996.
>>336829539
>considering the "UI" part is relegated to a corner.
Exactly, that's how minimalist it is and it's contrasting the two.
>rt", it doesn't even show half the party,
That isn't the full XV party either.
> although it's still two very different menus to compare.
Well they have different menus.
>P5's screenshot is not battle.
It was, it's form when the persona comes out during a battle
>>336814063
it annoys me how the combat in FFXV doesn't even come close to platinum's.
Like, forget trying to be as good as platinum, they can't even make it feel good because they don't know how action games work.
Fucking GOD OF WAR feels better and more responsive to play.
I'm likely to purchase Persona 5 around release but I'm going to have to wait for a possible PC release for FFXV. I am not playing around with that unresponsive low framerate business on my PS4.
>>336829912
Except it does feel good, did you even play it? Did you even get the shield and shuriken? Did you even do aerial combat? Did you even do the directional inputs and timed hits? I doubt you did any of that and don't understand XVs system.
>>336830071
oh for heavens sake fuck off with the shield and shuriken. I'm talking about framerate and animation cancelling you asshat.
I took the bait a while back and got those weapons, then spent 4 tries against the level 15 golem figuring them out.
They are simple to use and ineffective. The only thing that feels even remotely awesome is when you parry perfectly with the shield, but that shuriken air combo shit can fuck right off, it's boring as hell.
>>336830071
>Did you even get the shield and shuriken?
are you being ironic?
I'm looking forward to both, but Persona 5 is what I've truly been waiting for. I bought a PS3 for that game... and later a PS4 so I could play it even better.
>>336809824
>There is a very real chance that some of us might die before September
Stay safe bros
>>336829734
>Exactly, that's how minimalist it is and it's contrasting the two.
Then once again I have to pull out the "different menus" complaint. It's the main menu on one side, and a minor menu for driving on the other. Persona doesn't even have an equivalent.
>That isn't the full XV party either.
It's the full permanent party.
>Well they have different menus.
Not what I meant. It's different menus because it's different contexts, making for a poor comparison.
>It was, it's form when the persona comes out during a battle
It's a cutscene, you can see it clearly in PV#03. They've also shown Personas being summoned mid-battle in PV#04, it's from a different angle and without that sort of animation.
>>336830507
Those of you who can't read Japanese have to dodge death for even longer.
>>336830341
>I'm talking about framerate and animation cancelling you asshat.
Shield gives you animation cancelling you turdnigger, you would know this if you actually got it.
>They are simple to use and ineffective.
Are you fucking shitting me? Shield gives you perfect time blocks, animation cancelling and lets you stun IG when blocking because it knocks back the enemy and opens them up to critical hits, using shuriken and airstep also alows you to perfect dodge his swing attacks mid air with the directional input backflips and come in for hits between swings, if you were on ground you would not be able to be open up to him him when he does that since you'll either get hit or be guarding all four hits he does, also that is extremely effective not only for movement and combo in quick succession in the air but when you actually think about how it applies to the full game where you have multiple enemies and aerial enemies too then it becomes even more useful, the combat has more input than any KH game ever did and isn't boring at all. ANd I still doubt you played it because you sound like you are full of shit, just someone who watched some youtube vids so you can shitpost while at least pretending you know what you are talking about.
>>336830441
Are you retarded? It completely adds a whole other layer to combat
>>336830498
well now im going to pixiv... fuck you
>>336830672
>Persona doesn't even have an equivalent.
That doesn't matter, it's showing Persona UI style which is flashy and stylish compared to XVs UI style which is minimalist
>It's the full permanent party.
That's irrelevant since it's not hte full party, and you don't know if any of the other party members we saw in P5 are full members either, only that they join the party.
>It's different menus because it's different contexts,
It's context that it's a menu which pauses the background of the game, you can see the classroom background in P5 and you can see the area you are in in XV side.
>It's a cutscene, you can see it clearly in PV#03
Zorro being summoned still does that same thing, and that is still rendered in game and about it being blue visual effects.
>>336830498
>>336831028
Let's agree to disagree I guess. I can see it working as an overall comparison of each game's art direction, but I find the links between the individual screenshots to be rather weak.
>>336830498
my google search found nothing you fucker on a side not that better not be futa
>>336830906
Bottom right of picture ;)
>>336831364
SON OF A BITCH
>>336831491
I think he found it
>>336818646
It's really not though
>>336809824
>weeb side
lol
>>336814063
I have to go from playing a manly ass grizzled father fighting for muh daughter to some dumb broad. Sad day.
Same reason I avoided Drakengard 3. Don't you ever make me go from murderfuck Caim to some dumb eyeflower broad.
>>336818646
>circle mashing with the occasional square
>qte fest
>triangle for even more qte
Yeah, BEST combat EVER. KH1 is much better. The bad thing about KH1 is it’s fucking retarded camera.
>>336815239
Not even memeing here but
AtlusxPlatinum.
>>336817861
So any game where you grow more powerful and end up fighting powerful enemies is chuuni?
Shit, I guess every fucking rpg, action game, strategy game, and first person shooter is chuuni then.
>>336817217
Does it count as being chuuni if the character ACTUALLY has magical powers?
>>336832706
there's no point arguing with these people whose only conception of japanese games is through derogatory archetypes
>>336832706
If you're meant to selfinsert, then yeah, it is to some extent.