I always got the feel that there was always immense pain and suffering going on behind the scenes in these games and you as the hero kinda just stumbled through the aftermath just picking up the pieces
Pic related (the implications are terrifying)
You're just reading to much into a children's game.
low polygon graphics
>>336790264
You're just purposely shit posting so you can farm for (yous) because you don't get enough attention in real life
>>336790264
Or am I?
>>336790685
How am I shitposting? There is nothing sinister going on between the lines in old N64 games, they were made for kids dude.
Zelda was pretty grimdark at first which they later removed. ALttP had a few depressing elements to it (which are gone in Link Between Worlds), and the art for the first two games was dark.
I don't think it applies to N64 games in general but maybe other Nintendo games had traces of that.
>>336790140
Because
Nintendo > Neo-Nintendo.
It's because you were 12. If you were the age back then that you are now, you'd be complaining that Atari games have some air of mystery that N64 games don't have, and it's the same reason old dudes who didn't have video games when they were kids don't understand them and think kids should be playing outside.
When you're young your imagination runs wild and makes everything seem much bigger and more scary than it actually is.
>>336791010
Conkers bad fur day could still be considered the most ''mature'' game of all time. The target audience is people in their mid 20's and above.
>>336791184
No. This is simply not true. Many people didn't play the games back then, and if they compare OoT and or MM to the modern zelda games.. dude there is no denying that the n64 zelda games were darker and legit scarier than the modern ones. Are you shitposting?
> immense pain and suffering going on behind the scenes
rofl
this fucking thread
can't wait for nintendo to just go under already
>>336791642
But nintendo died a decade ago.
Neo-Nintendo is about to die as well.
>>336790140
If you killed one, the others would go squat by the corpse until it disappeared.
>>336790802
All video games are made for children.
What did nintendo do here in the remake? did they remove the zombies? Made them cute? How's the overall atmosphere of the game? I know for sure they censored the fuck out of the shadow temple, the blood and torture devices. And that fucking mini boss slime thing that was made of bones and, what seemed to be, rotten flesh and replaced it with a water blob.
>>336792051
What an original comment. Thank you mr voice of reason.
>>336790802
dead hand was pretty creepy for a zelda game, senpai
The N64 zelda games were unquestionably darker and more twisted than any of the newer zelda games.
>>336792051
It's true though. Despite Call of Duty being rated M, you'll find that the online demographic are largely children and early teenagers.
You're fooling yourself if you think an M rating means it wasn't developed and marketed toward kids.
>>336790140
Didn't the dogs survive?
Why did they kill all the people but not the dogs?
>>336792984
There were no dogs in hyrule market town as adult link.
>>336792352
>>336792359
Are those supposed to be skulls lining the floor and ceiling or just muddy textures?
>>336793219
Skulls
>>336793469
Neat.
>>336793219
yo check out ocarina of time shadow temple. The music, the textures, the enemies, the platforming etc.
i miss non-kiddie nintendo.
>this children's game/tv show/movie/book is actually very dark and more mature than you'd think!
I think you took a wrong turn on your way to tumblr, friend.
>>336794068
Oh I played it, I just never noticed the textures when I played on my shitty TV as a kid. I played the 3DS remake a while ago and I think they just replaced the skull texture with dirt. They made the boat edgier though.
>>336794419
there was no point in the boat to begin with. Like, you sail with it for 20 seconds, jump off, done.
But i find it cool they did.
can you answer this?>>336792125
>>336792125
>How's the overall atmosphere of the game?
a lot weaker. The improved faces alone change a lot of the vibe of the games. Adult link just becomes a pretty boy
>>336790140
Actual explanation:
Early 3D games strike an uncanny valley between something real and something unreal as a result of the low graphic fidelity. You can tell what it's supposed to look like, but it's so crude and primitive that it feels off.
As a kid, your mind fills in the missing details as well, and your mind might've added something that wasn't really there to make it worse. As an example, my first exposure to this game I thought the redead's screaming was coming from a woman trapped in the castle town. My memory had added in a lit window on a second story house that had her silhouette get attacked by a redead.
>>336794972
Epic comment bro
>>336794906
>As an example, my first exposure to this game I thought the redead's screaming was coming from a woman trapped in the castle town. My memory had added in a lit window on a second story house that had her silhouette get attacked by a redead.
You're fucking weird, I never did that shit as a kid and it was still scary.
>>336794779
You're an idiot
>>336795094
wut
do you actually think the faces were an improvement?
>>336790140
There was something faintly creepy about Mario64. I think it was partly because the levels were weird abstract islands floating in a void.
>>336795071
I was five years old and had a very active imagination.
I only ever saw the game once, when my brother's friend brought it over, so I never saw it again to realize the screams were supposed to be coming from the redeads. Was years before I played it myself.
Memories are weird. Over time you remember things that were never there.
Seven years after Ganondorf took control of Hyrule, ReDeads roamed the ruins of castle town, moaning. Link was shocked at the state of the town, and the apparent lack of survivors. He later learned that the townsfolks had evacuated to safety, and the ReDeads were magic animated into hideous humanoid shapes.
>>336790802
How is nothing sinister happening in OPs pic, everyone in that cheerful town DIED horribly and turned into creepy screamy zombies and it's all YOUR fault
>>336795375
trophy description of melee?
Let me try and make the description tr4sh style:
''These creatures may look like zombies, but unlike the walking dead, ReDeads have never been human. They just seem to be clay monsters fashioned in the shape of humans. They attack Link when he gets too close, making spine-chilling noises that are hard to describe with words alone. Best not to try - just get rid of them!''
Hey, this isnt bad.
>>336794593
Felt like the same game more or less honestly, I think the only censorship was the blood and torture devices being removed. All the other stuff was already censored when they reissued it on the N64 (Ganon's green blood, Fire Temple music, Mirror Shield, etc.). It feels a lot brighter and colorful though, Shadow Temple is more purple than shadowy.
>>336795375
I bet moms got mad at them so they made this descr. Redeads will always be deadpeople in my eyes
>>336795375
>ReDeads were magic animated into hideous humanoid shapes
Whoever wrote that trophy description for Melee completely forgot that there were ReDeads under that one tomb where you go to learn the Sun Song.
>>336790264
*too
You fucking retard.
>>336792125
>did they remove the zombies
No.
>Made them cute
No, but they look more like their artwork now.
>How's the overall atmosphere of the game?
About the same. Only nostalgiafags will tell you otherwise. There's much more detail and it's much nicer to look at. Only downsides are they made both the Ganon fight and the Puppet Ganon fights brighter, but this was probably to accommodate the 3DS's screen and prevent ghosting.
> I know for sure they censored the fuck out of the shadow temple, the blood and torture devices.
They got rid of most of the blood, but you can still see some of the blood patch, it just looks more faded like it's been there for a long time.
>And that fucking mini boss slime thing that was made of bones and, what seemed to be, rotten flesh and replaced it with a water blob.
I assume you mean Dead Hand since Morpha never had bones.
The only thing they changed about Dead Hand is remove the blood he had on him.
>>336794779
>Adult link just becomes a pretty boy
You're a retard. He always looked like that in official artwork and he was always supposed to be.
>Koizumi: My wife said, “All of Nintendo’s characters have funny noses. Don’t you have any handsome ones?” I was shocked.
>Iwata: (laughs)
>Koizumi: Then when we were making The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, I was in charge of Link’s character design, so I made him a little better-looking.
>Aonuma: Huh? So Link is your wife’s type?
>Koizumi: Yes. (firmly)
>Everyone: (laughs)
>>336790264
What does this post even mean? Were the people in the market not converted to still rotting husks in burial masks?
Are children not exposed at all to conceptually scary things ever because we shelter them from boobs and outright gore?
>>336796003
>The only thing they changed about Dead Hand is remove the blood he had on him.
dude, google 3ds oot dead hand. Its a water blob.
>>336796003
>Puppet Ganon
You're either retarded or you've never actually played Ocarina of Time.
>>336796003
>You're a retard. He always looked like that in official artwork and he was always supposed to be.
the official artwork is meaningless. Im talking about the actual game. Its a fairly major change to its aesthetics.
>>336796205
>tfw phantom ganon for the first time
ooT was at least 5 years ahead of its time.
>>336796140
I don't think you know what water looks like??
>>336796205
I meant Phantom Ganon. I've been up all night.
>>336796003
>Puppet Ganon
>OoT
What in the fuck are you on about
>>336796140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n_kasrPQGk
>It's a zelda thread
>it almost entirely consists of shitposting
>>336796381
>>336796318
yes, a water blob.
>>336796405
ZERUDA NO DEN
ZERUDA NO DENSETSU
ZERUDA NO DEN
ZERUDA NO DENSETSU
ATARASHI DENSETSU
>>336796583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAMi7mRorZg
>>336791184
I'm playing OoT for the first time and literally got to OP's pic last night and honestly I got a similar vibe. Not as much as I would when I was a kid but it's still distinctly there.
>>336793219
Good god
>>336796301
Nigger, I just quoted you the developer interview where they state he was designed to be handsome. He was always supposed to look like the artwork, everything did, the only reason they didn't is because of technological limitations.
Fucking look at his appearances in Melee and Soul Calibur, it's not exclusive to OoT3D. As soon as they had the resources they fixed it.
>>336796418
He's shinier but he's not amorphous. His skin and body are solid and still white, it doesn't move around like he's made of a liquid.
>>336790140
That was pretty spooky but every NPC was just in Kakariko. It's a bit disapointing desu.
>>336795375
I'm pretty sure this is a retcon since you find ReDeads in the Royal Family's tomb as a child, 7 years before Ganondorf would've obtained the power to make "clay monsters" in the first place.
>>336796003
C U C K E D
>>336790264
/Thread
>>336791184
I find both n64 and Atari's vagueness adds to elements of fear.
>>336796761
>Nigger, I just quoted you the developer interview where they state he was designed to be handsome
I know you did. Its as irrelevant as Lucas' opinion on Greedo. What matters was the game
>>336790140I GOT KING KONG IN THE TRUNK
>>336797181
Okay, you're just in denial then, gotcha.
That was exactly it
Nintendo got incredibly pussified within the next years.
Bottom of the Well is one of the most awesomely disturbing places in vidya, yet, in the remakes it was cleaned up and made a Nickelodeon's Hidden Temple course.
>tfw Zelda will never be for Everyone again, because Aonuma is obsessed with making games for Children.
Alright guys.
Console 3D zeruda:
MM = OoT > TP > WW > decent gap > SS
Best Dungeon:
stone tower
best ost:
Song of healing
best companion:
Midna
Best boss battle
Koloktos
best town/village
clock town, easily.
Cutest character:
Princess Ruto
>>336791192
You're fucking stupid as hell
>>336797443
Best weapon:
Fierce deity mask
Deku leaf
>>336797346
It's what killed Nintendo for me.
Zelda was a game for EVERYONE. It was a straight up dungeon crawler with charming characters and dark secrets below the ground. Now is another Mario.
Wait, no, even past Mario games were more contrasting sometimes. They weren't straight up Playskool entertainment.
>>336797443
Agreed.
>>336795728
>>336795808
>>336796908
There's also the dancing ReDeads in Majora's Mask, which I'm quite sure are explicitly stated to have been the court dancers/entertainers before everything went to shit in Ikana.
>>336797443
>best companion:
>listing anything at all
Shit taste, stopped reading there
>>336797346
nintendo only cares about making games for children because the lead devs are all grandparents that have no idea what young adults like but understand and enjoy the time spent with their grandchildren.
Once the 80's creators die off or retire then we may see games relating to slightly older audiences, but they may go full disney and turn it into little girl stuff.
Mario is now a musical
the legend of zelda only has link for a cameo when he marry's her.
Donkey kong makes dresses.
Fuck you nintendo
>>336790140
Low detail extremely pixelated and uncanny early 3D leads to a frightening feeling. Mario 64 even did it despite being a game that was supposed to be for kids
>>336791010
Dude the entire dark world in ALTTP was crazy if you think about it now. Everything was skulls and screaming demons and shit.
>>336797694
Glover was the fucking worst with this. The draw distance and desolate overworld spooked me good as a kid.
>>336797513
It is dude. I dont know anyone who's 18 years old that would understand even half the movie references.
It is the most mature game and for the right reasons. It does not take itself serious, at all, 4th wall jokes aren't anything special anymore, but at the time, in a fucking video game, it was unique. The use of alcohol. Simplified and in its truest form. With hangover, puking and all that. Simply everything in that game is as mature as it gets. feel free to correct me.
Well, Anon? Which pokemon do you choose?
Spoopy early 3D thread? Pic only tangentially related.
>>336797443
>MM = OoT > TP > WW > decent gap > SS
I can agree with this
Stone Tower's not the best dungeon though. Conceptually and lore-wise it's great, but repeatedly using the Ocarina is annoying. Personally I think the first two in MM are better. The Snow Mansion is also cool.
>Get a N64 and Mario 64 the day they come out
>Play Mario with my dad all day
>Get to the part where you run down the hallway, the Peach picture changes to Bowser, and you fall down the trap door
>Scream because that's a pretty fucking sinister picture of Bowser
>Become terrified and can only go to that level if I cover my eyes and my dad takes me there
>Get enough stars to continue through the game
>Get to the endless staircase
>Pictures of Bowser everywhere plus that chilling music
>Even my dad comments on how fucking dark and evil that is for a Nintendo game
>Get enough stars to get to the top and get greeted by a gigantic picture of Bowser
>Nearly pass out from how bad it spooked me
I was about six at the time, that shit was nuts to me. I can watch gory movies no problem, but old vidya terrifies me in a way I can't explain.
>>336790728
THIS NIGGA GETS IT HOLY SHIT I THINK I ACTUALLY STARTED TO CRY A LITTLE FROM HOW FUCKING BAD THIS BOSS SCARED ME AS A KID
Also, educational games were some shit back then. I remember my dad got a Packard Bell from his work, and he got me a human body game since I was really into medical stuff (still are). The heart always fascinated me, and this is what I was greeted with when I was poking around the circulatory system stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmRHk74JzaI
>>336797830
Din is thehottest
>>336797272
do you endorse, say, Lucas' cgi alterations to the star wars films?
They were corrected to the original intention when technical restrains of the time prohibited it.
>>336797820
it had anthro squirrels immediately turning it into a childs game
>>336797830
Din all the way, and not just because I have the Choose Your Own Adventure book for Seasons and it includes artwork of her looking cheeky.
>>336797443
>MM at the top
No, kill yourself.
>>336797938
>>336797974
Excellent choices, my friends.
>>336797901
The only time you really need to use the Ocarina excessively is to gain entrance and like, one of the first puzzles. After that it's all about playing that shit upside down. As far as Majora's Mask is concerned, I actually fucking love the Great Bay Temple.
I thought Wario World had that kind of unsettling and bizarre N64 vibe to it. The bosses were weird as fuck, at least one or two legitimately creeped me out.
>>336797830
>Farore has been repeatedly ignored by Nintendo
Fuck man I just want her to appreciate OOT Link
The kid's story is a fucking greek tragedy
>>336798037
it is the best because there is no solid competition. What is the best 3d zelda game? ww? fucking ss?
And besides, MM = OoT.
>>336790140
That reminds me of this time I found an N64 game at a garage sale... it was weird because the house was weird and the garage sale was weird and the guy selling it was weird and the cartridge itself looked weird...
>>336798115
>That fucking angel baby doll thing
>That clown with the fake head
I swear, a lot of the levels were designed around common fears, especially those of children. Not to mention those fucking bizarre bonus levels that were just blocks and spike balls suspended in the sky with nothing else in view.
Still, I fucking love that game. Fun as fuck and among the best Wario games in my opinion. A shame we never got more, it was a real nice transition to 3D for Wario.
>>336798337
Le ben
is this 2012?
>>336798270
Meh, MM is just barely better than OOT, imo. Not him btw
>>336798238
>Relegated to "Oracle of Secrets"
>Not even considered remotely important by the big bads
How does it feelto be so flat
>>336798421
>MM is just barely better than OOT
Effectively making it the best 3D zelda game.
>>336798337
I don't understand the King Kong video. I know it's to spite people who take Ben seriously but was it made by the guy who did those videos? That'd be fucking hilarious.
>>336798367
Yup, those were the ones. I thought it was an amazing game for Wario, Charles Martinet never sounded so energetic and fun.
>>336796003
Which one is supposed to be the improved version?
>>336798542
Yeah, it was the same guy. I think there was even some big build up to it, or a really big "suspenseful" gap between uploads. His reasoning was something along the lines of "tired of it" and/or "ran out of places to go".
Take that with a grain of salt if you will, I never paid too much attention to it.
>>336798542
It was. It's why people got so upset and the guy got death threats.
>>336790620
This. Was the same on ps1. Leaves a lot to the imagination in these sections of games.
>>336790264
Your not reading enough into a children's game.
>>336798645
>>336798680
>>336798701
Oh man, that's great.
>>336798751
You're*
>>336794972
10/10 burn city
low poly and low draw distance made for spooky atmospheres
>>336798640
Just imagine if they kept making Wario World games instead of Wario Ware stuff. Even if it was just a sequel on the Wii and another on the Wii U, imagine the fucking moves and bosses they could put in now.
>>336798812
Yuri*
>>336797964
>comparing giving a character more than 15 polygons to George Lucas
I know nostalgia runs deep but holy fuck.
>>336798701
>death threats
Holy shit, I didn't know about that. That's some funny fuckin' salt.
>>336798887
It would've been waggling shit on the wii, and over casualized shallow shit on the wii u with no gameplay depth or moves whatsoever.
>>336795658
>Mirror Shield
No. The Gerudo Symbol wasn't changed until the GCN release, all of the N64 versions have the old design.
>>336795020
*triggered*
Fucking mamas boy.
>>336798887
We can only dream.
why nintendo fans always think their games has mariana lore and pioneer of everything?
>>336795447
Except they are all in Kakariko safe and sound.
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/l7lFJ65.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
>>336798998
Geez man, don't gotta be so pessimistic.
>>336799050
Weird, I was probably thinking of Majora's Mask and got that mixed up with the Islamic music being altered.
>>336799164
TR4SH sold 5 mil on the wii u? Good enough i guess.
>>336799453
>I was probably thinking of Majora's Mask
Oh, actually you're sorta right about that. The redesigned symbol existed by the time Majora's Mask came out, but it wasn't even in OoT 1.2.
That said this is apparently the only time the symbol appears in MM.
>>336799370
cliche statement but, i am not pessimistic, i am realistic and you know it.
>>336799846
>i am realistic
Because there's no good games on the Wii or Wii U, right?
>>336799770
? That's not a star and crescent moon.
>>336799942
There are.
>>336799965
That is my point entirely, the star and moon symbol doesn't appear in MM
>>336799965
Yeah, it's the Gerudo Symbol they changed when they placed it in OoT then retroactively replaced the original moon and star in subsequent releases of OoT.
>>336800091
Then why can't Wario be good too?
D-do you think we'll get an answer for what happens to TP Link in the next installation?
I really don't want him to get the same fate as MM Link did. One, because it'll cheapen MM Link's story, and two, I really want him to find Midna.
>>336800150
If you hoenstly trust modern nintendo with anythign, at all, then i dont have anything else to say to you.
>>336800560
You're contradicting yourself. You just said there are good games on Wii and Wii U.
Some of which modern Nintendo made.
They've made good games and they've made bad games. That's always how it's been. You can't generalize the bad games and pretend they can't make good games.
>>336799050
interesting that they only changed the music and not the symbol.
>>336800510
What happened to MM Link?
>>336790140
Is this you OP?
>>336801462
I think it's because they refer to Allah in the lyrics.
>>336801472
>>336801472
Sent back in time to before he saved the world so it's like none of it ever happened.
The only friend who knows what happened leaves him and he goes after her, saves a whole alternate world, but gets sent back again so it's like none of that ever happened either.
Becomes a ghost because he never put to rest his regret that he was never remembered as a hero, or able to share what he learned with anyone.
>>336797443
So close
Swap MM and WW
Best dungeon is the Forest Temple
Cutest character is Anju
>>336801521
No but he posted the same thing that's on the OP in that thread.
>>336801814
>Swap MM and WW
haha
>>336801521
Glover was really eerie, it struck me as a child and when i was in the level select area i felt so isolated. The levels are really weird as well, everythning looks so purposeless.
>>336801897
What? That didn't make any sense.
>>336801763
Plus
>Loses the Triforce of Courage when he leaves Hyrule
Fuuuuck
>>336801952
MM is pretty shit, hipsters on /v/ are its only fans for a reason.
>>336799276
Not all.
>>336801763
But he had a family, surely he could've shared his story with them and learned to move on.
>>336802068
Telling a story doesn't always mean they'll believe you.
Experiencing shit go down and seeing you do it is another thing.
Maybe Link was just egotistical, but that's the official explanation.
>>336790140
when you're coming of age you see things differently, your brain comprehends everything more vividly and even the simplest of things can have a big impact on you.
I still remember the 'feeling' of being a child and playing games, but every year the sensations get weaker and weaker
>>336802216
Huh. Adds another layer to a typical voiceless protagonist I guess.
>>336798946
I have no nostalgia for OoT. I had a playstation and only played it a couple years ago.
![scream-2008-18[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VK1vDnO.jpg "scream-2008-18[1].jpg")
>>336801763
>OOT/MM Link is never remembered, because he traveled through time and space to save two different worlds, and none of them were his own
>mfw realizing that this is a metaphor about the player himself, and how no one in real life gives a shit that he saved both Hyrule and Termina, since none of it was real
this may be a retarded post but what if/has anyone made a mod of OOT but with a stamina bar and RPG stats to upgrade like dark souls? would this be kinda cool? fuck i dont know
>>336797903
You pussy
>>336804295
>would this be kinda cool?
Nah.
The N64 Zeldas are completely fine as they are.
>>336796003
I'm not questioning the fact that adult Link is meant to be pretty, of course he is. However, the remake's 3D model differs from the oriignal artwork. It's a new style altogether, which is closer than the first game but still different.
>>336804295
It would add nothing but irrelevant upgrades to the game.
>>336797443
MM = OoT > WW > TP
Best Dungeons:
Stone Tower Temple > Earth Temple > Snowpeak Manor = Forest Temple
Best Song:
Oath to Order > Spirit Temple = Ook Battle >Molgera Battle
Best Companion:
Tatl = KoRL > Midna > Navi
Best Boss Fight:
Goht >Twin-Swords Ganondorf > Stallord > Wizard Ganondorf
Best Settlement:
Every settlement in WW > Clock Town > Death Mountain > Lakeside Laboratory
Cutest:
Malon/Cremia > Skull Kid = Saria > Medli > Arryl (TP gets nothing, its characters were abominable)
Best Exclusive Item to use in-game:
Ball and Chain > Fierce Deity Mask > Grappling Hook > Biggoron Sword
Best Exclusive Item to use IRL:
Spinner > Deku Leaf > Goron Mask > Bombchu
>>336798115
The creepyness was pretty intentional. I was pleased to find a game that was mildly unsettling without getting smarmy about it, and found beating the critters up pretty satisfying. The bull boss and that quacking Emcee thing that looks like a wallace and gromit zombie were the best.
>>336799453
The music was the thing that got complained about, at least initially. Co-opting a symbol is one thing but actually having disembodied voices howl "ALLAH IS GREAT!" in a place reminiscent of Hell is a direct affront.
>>336799942
The question isn't whether a WiiU Wario World sequel would be good. Nintendo know how to make fun games, even if they're losing a lot of their edge the products are still playable. The question is whether it would actually be a Wario World game, or a diluted paper thin vehicle for the latest wagglan/etc. gimmick.
It's not a question of quality, it's a question of accuracy.
>>336797830
Din the goddess of sex all the time every time
>>336804078
>>336797830
>>336801962
I think that's just an affect of the fog in the level select, and the really empty levels.
