>zero (null) (0) summon signs
the game is already dead
I literally had to solo every boss today because there are no summons anymore
>>336775731
But that makes this memegame better
>>336775731
What level are you at?
>>336776352
I started a new character a couple of hours ago and that's not at all what I saw.
By the way, if you have to summon for any boss, you might as well stop playing video games period cause you might have some form of horrible retardation.
>>336775731
Null isn't the same as zero you mongoloid.
>>336776518
If you're level 15 at dancer fucking of course you're not going to see summon signs.
Also if you're going to twink then get fucking good and don't summon anyway.
>>336776518
>expecting to get summoned for Dancer of the Boreal Booty at level 15 post launch
Idiot
>>336776518
Could be why, im level 40 in irythyll and I found alot of summons signs , hell I invaded and walked into a little fightclub for red phantoms someone was having.
Pretty sure it's impossible to properly summon for Dancer because the game is broken.
too high level. meta is at level 12
zero and null aren't the same thing get it right homolord
>>336776595
I don't think null is even ever used for any kind of numeric values.
>>336776818
>it's impossible to properly summon for Dancer
But it's not. I farmed Sunlight Medals at the Dancer.
>>336776818
Naw it's possible.
Like if you beat Bordt and then trigger Dancer even right after that, summon signs pop back up and invasions start working again.
It may be dead anon but at fucking level 15 you better get yourself a Bandit Knife and do the fucking Swordsman Glitch already for Dancer
and have fun with Oceiros, like I did
So uhh... What boss fog should I go though here?
>>336775731
EU?
I am 23 and also at the dancer.
>put my sign down at Dragonslayer armor
>summoned immediately
>the host already has 2 other phantoms
Every fucking time.
>>336777086
The one at the top is the only actual boss fog, the other one is "you have phantoms so fuck off until you don't" fog.
>>336777001
Not op but clarify?
>>336776907
it can represent undefined numerical types, but it's not equal to any numerical value if that's what you were saying
>>336777125
People play this game not for challenge but for bragging rights and achievements points.
The fun isn't in playing through the game, but on mashing R1 effortlessly and being told "U DONE IT". That's why co-op exists.
>>336777001
OP here, enlighten me please
i got every boss so far but Dancer is just a bitch
>>336777163
It's implementation defined. Could be 0, -1, or whatever the fuck the compiler writer wants it to be.
People summon even for Vordt/Tree/...
>>336777435
yes, that's literally what is called undefined behavior
>>336777125
Eh on my 4th character. I just summon for entertainment. Also helps those people farming medals.
>>336777145
>>336777402
>summon sword master
>walk into dancer room
>get the npc to die
>hard reset game
>go back and summon sword master
>he is now fucking invincible, run away and let him to everything
I killed Dancer at SL17, I also beat Oceiros at SL30 (For Twinking purposes). For Oceiris, use the Bandit Knife, then use the Root cheesing-method with a Lothric Crossbow for his second phase.
>>336777402
Go for bleed or dark if you want the dancer dead.
>>336777649
One final note, the Swordmaster glitch will not work if Vordt is dead, he must still be alive. Therefore, fight Dancer with Sword Master before defeating Vordt.
>>336775731
>needing help ever
just learn to fucking roll
>>336777649
pretty sure they fixed that bug
>>336777590
Should've gotten hit on the second one because of that shit roll.
>>336777903
I did this two days ago on the Xbox One, I cannot speak for the other platforms.
>>336777649
>>336777734
Vordt is dead so I can't summon him
>>336777125
>offer to help people
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW LOOK AT THESE FAGS GETTING HELPED
>>336778017
i guess i did it wrong
>>336777903
It's not a bug, it's a feature. Sword master is not meant to be able to lose to any bosses that use a sword, because he is the master.
>>336777943
>should've gotten hit before the attack is actually out
yeah nah
>>336778054
>>336778032
I pressed the Xbox button, pressed start and quit the game. And it's fine OP, if you're stressing like I was, then just make a new account. I myself had to cut my losses after discovering this glitch and just re-rolled. Best of luck, babysitting is immensely rewarding with a +3 Dark Knight Glaive and Hornet Ring when defending the host against SL10-20 Watchdogs of Farron.
>>336775731
You might wanna use Way of White Circlet then
>>336778213
Just on principle. That roll was gutter trash, m8.
>>336777590
>panic rolling 20 times just to dodge 2 attacks
>>336775731
ZERO IS NOT THE SAME AS NULL HOLY FUCK YOURE SO FUCKING RETARDED OFF DID YOU JUST GET OUT OF A HIGHSCHOOL CS CLASS AND THINK YOU KNOW SOMETHING KILL YOUR SELF
>>336778305
>being this triggered
>>336776707
dancer is right next to Bordt, he should see some summon signs regardless.
null fags BTFO
>>336778206
The fucking master
>>336778305
maybe he's german
>>336775731
Remove the password
>>336775731
>zero (null)
zero and null are not the same thing you mongoloid
>>336778221
guess I will make a new one without killing Vordt
Dancer is starting to get annoying
>>336775731
Only on PC™ ;^)
>>336777718
Dancer's second form completely dumpsters my frame rate, I don't know if it's because the entire place is on fire or what, but the fight goes from being 60 fps in the first phase, to 10-15 fps in the second, so it's almost impossible to react and dodge properly. It's not a problem when fighting her late game since you usually have enough health and damage to get the fight over quickly, since she doesn't have that much health, but it's almost impossible to fight her properly at the beginning of the game.
>>336778575
??
>>336778472
Wow someone actually put this up on the wiki
>(This bug is still not patched, it may be intentional, as the Master's Attire reveals that he danced through a flurry of spinning blades, with only his clothes being hit.)
>>336778606
And pretty much the entire rest of Lothric Castle is a pain in the dick as well.
Dancer onwards is a huge butt-frustration at low-level.
>>336778606
" Strategy 5 (Sword Master Glitch)
There's a glitch for this fight (I've done it May 1st, app1.04 reg1.05) that you can do only in early game but allows you to kill the Dancer very easily.
Summon the Sword Master (You need to kill him at Firelink before and Vordt must be alive or the mark won't appear), kill Emma to spawn the Dancer. As soon as the NPC dies, save & quit via the Start Menu. Reload your game and summon the NPC again and go in the boss room.
Sword Master will now take very minor damage and will dodge due to a hitbox bug. Just let him take the aggro and wait for the boss being bled to death."
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Dancer+of+the+Boreal+Valley
Best of luck anon, and good luck babysitting. It's real fun I promise.
>>336775731
It's like 5 in the morning you faggot
Unlike you or me some people actually have lives to attend to
>found Smouldering Lake
>can't beat Old Demon King
>can't progress in caves below
>start putting my sign down to get a better grasp of the area
>no one makes it past the Ghru's
>If they challenge the boss the host just charges and gets killed
This area is a fucking nightmare, and on top of that it's just the swamp again and all it's enemies are reused, even the fucking crabs.
>>336778783
But it's 11:15 anon.
Not everyone in the world is an Amerifat you know.
>>336778813
It's easily the weakest part of the game.
At least it isn't as bad as the real Izalith.
>>336778717
Turn cross-regional matchmaking on you dip.
>>336778279
>panic rolling
>one misjudged roll constitutes panic rolling
Where can I get such a towering stallion?
>>336778768
You don't need to kill anything. You can just rush around collecting chunks, scales or whatever else you need. Oceiros is incredibly easy once you realize his gimmick, so is Champion Gundyr if you learn to parry (and if you don't, he's the best enemy/boss in the game to learn it from). Haven't fought Dragonslayer Armor in the early game so don't know if that fight is hard early on.
>>336778427
>null meaning zero
>>336778825
How about you live in a timezone that actually matters before you start complaining then, Pajeet
>>336776520
Holy shit. So many. I usually see 2 or 3 at time. They tend to disappear once you use one.
You're probably banned
I seen summons everywhere, no matter the level I've been
>>336778813
I cleared the whole area right after killing Wolnir, it wasn't that bad since most of the enemies were reused and you should know how to fight them.
Only those two assassins at the end were a pain because I ran out of flasks.
>>336778909
>>336778813
>want to get that special whip
>have to not only summon Great Swamp Cuculus for Old Demon King, but have him survive a boss fight against a boss that constantly spams AOE shit that AI can't dodge
more like Great Swamp Cuckulus
>>336777001
you realize you can just do basically the flamelurker strat from demon's souls and get oceiros stuck on a tree limb in the right hand corner of the room, right?
>>336779109
I'm fighting Dragonslayer armor at SL40 rite now, he's actually a lot tamer than I thought. About to go round 3, so far the pilgrim butterflies have given me more trouble than Dragonslayer
>>336778396
Yeah, in front of the Bordt door, not dancer.
>>336779392
no I'm not
>>336779361
The corridor right before Yhorm was literally covered in summon signs last time I was there, like 20+ signs showing at once.
>>336779458
You can't progress past him anyway until you beat the other 3 lords.
>>336779458
The butterfly juice is the hardest part of that fight.
1 on 1, Dragonslayer isn't a problem.
The next boss is a lot harder.
>>336776520
agreed
>not soloing every boss
>especially ds2 dlc's
>motherfucking fume knight
>>336779538
Easy boss to farm Sun medals.
>>336778813
I actually forgot about smouldering lake until I had nearly beaten the game. That boss fight isn't fun at any level for me. The rest of the area was novel, but somewhat unremarkable later on.
>>336775731
Ps4 version is literally thriving m8
>>336779531
Is this your way of asking for help with the dancer at low level? I have a level 16 character with Dorhy's Gnaw if you'd like some help.
>>336779424
>>336777649
What I said here buddy. There's nothing fun about shooting 150 bolts at Oceiros while dodging his curse dragon breath. It takes too long when you're only SL17
>>336775731
>game has zero summons EXCEPT Mound Makers
Holy christ, it's just like playing Russian roulette at this point.
>>336779804
>>336779659
>1 on 1, Dragonslayer isn't a problem
Depends on your build. The dark sorcerer I'm running has run into a wall on him worse than Aldrich was.
>Spells do no damage
>Sword barely does 2%
HELP
>>336776518
>level 15 so you won't see higher level signs
>weapon is obviously past +2 so you won't see low level signs
If you're not baiting you're a goddamn fucking retard and should end your own life immediately.
>>336777590
>People summon even for Vordt/Tree/...
I put my summon sign down for every boss I just defeated. I do so at least three times, and then move on.
Faggot, do you even praise the fucking meme?
>>336778920
Cross region only applies to Japan.
Literally the rest of the world + Japan.
>>336779849
I'm not going to summon you, you fucking faggot.
Nice animoo image, keep rocking that virginity.
>>336775731
>75k first two weeks
>two weeks later only 40k @ prime hours
either half the community is no lifers who literally beat the game and had their fill of pvp in two weeks or half the community is complete casuals who got stuck on iedux, vordt, greattree, deacons, or watchers.
>>336778779
yeah not working
should I BC him first?
>>336779858
Just summon Eygon.
or did you piss him off by buying dark miracles from Irina?
>>336780252
Pretty sure you have to activate the fog wall for dancer before he follows you in, meaning he won't follow you on the first attempt. That is, assuming From didn't patch it.
>>336780428
nah he did follow me in but died in a few seconds
>>336776518
>>336775731
>Level 15
>Estus Flask+6
>>336780031
>put summon sign down for vordt after i beat him
>get summoned
>host already has another summon
>kek we're gonna fuck this boss up
>host runs right up to vordt
>rolls ways too soon
>gets hit
>rolls into the next attack
>tries to run away
>gets him by his dash attack and dies
>mfw
>>336780549
Fucking read.
>As soon as the NPC dies, save & quit via the Start Menu. Reload your game and summon the NPC again and go in the boss room.
Holy shit anon, pay attention.
>>336780312
When can I shove my firekeeper soul into Irina?
I gave it to the firekeeper my last playthrough so I want to do things differently now but the option won't appear.
>put summon sign down for Vordt
>get summoned
>they run to dancer instead
>>336780795
I had that issue with Dragonslayer Armour
I put down sign for that fight 4 times, and each time, the host died
>>336780813
except I did that, unless "NPC" refers to Master
>summon Master
>kill NPC in Dancer room
>NPC dies
>this is when I'm supposed to quit
>there's no Quit button unless I bc Master
>>336780873
-Buy all regular miracles from her without buying any dark miracles from her
-leave and come back
-find her near where the master was
-jam it in
>>336781002
Quit Game became instantly available for me as soon as Master died and vanished from the boss fight room
How useful is bleed against bosses, does it work against all of them or are some immune?
>>336775731
I'm posting from page 0
Let me guess, you triggered dancer straight away and are now claiming the game is dead despite being severely underleveled, thus too low to see all the summon signs.
PS4 version is active famalamajam
PC version everyone left already because of hacks, softban fears and shitty as fuck netcode with T poses everywhere
Sorry you wasted hours of your life making builds to play against nobody though
>>336781275
I triggered Dancer after killing every boss in the game
Read the thread
>>336781002
>Reload your game and summon the NPC again and go in the boss room.
>Reload your game and summon the NPC again and go in the boss room.
>Reload your game and summon the NPC again and go in the boss room.
>unless "NPC" refers to Master
I believe in you, anon. You're almost there.
>>336780894
>Now the real fight begins
>670 Appraisals
>>336781356
vague description/10
I will start again, see ya all in a moment
>>336781223
Not sure if any are immune, but some have such ridiculous defense against it that you might as well not bother. Even the Dancer, who is considered "weak" to bleed takes a cast of Dorhy's gnaw and three to five hits with a bleed weapon to trigger bleed.
>>336781223
Luck build + daggers or caestus with Raw (or later Hollow) infusion + Carthus Rouge= rekking machine
>>336781440
The description is a little vague, but "summon the NPC again" is all it takes to be able to use the process of elimination to understand which NPC they were referring to.
>get summoned for boss
>proceed to wait 15 minutes as the host scrambles to get 2 more summons
>eventually get tired of waiting and black crystal
>get angry messages for not putting up with this shit
Every time
>>336778039
The problem is that it makes the fights more tedious, gives the boss more HP, which gives the host more time to get rekt.
9/10 times I get summoned it's with 2 other phantoms, half that time at least 2 of them or the host dies before the fight is over.
>>336781440
>Summon Master.
>JAM IT IN the Dancer of Booty Valley's fog door.
>Have Master die.
>Quit Game.
>Load Game.
>Summon Master.
>JAM IT IN the Dancer of Booty Valley's fog door.
>Watch the Master of Swords conquer her booty while you sit in a corner furiously masturbating.
Congrats. You win game.
>people who use DEX weapons or any fast hitting weaponry
>summoning, ever
fucking pathetic
>>336775731
>the game is already dead
so that's like to be softbanned, cool
>>336781826
>using anything other than a typewriter to play
woooooow casusl
>>336778742
Keep in mind the wiki still lists centipede demon's location as undead asylum and calls the winged knights mini-smoughs
So how does summoning work in this game?
It's now dependant on weapon reinforcement?
>>336781881
I'm not softbanned, read the thread dumbfuck
>>336781738
How do you check what your summon's steam account is?
>>336781923
You tried saying something, but it didn't work. Try again.
>>336782061
By going to your recent player's list
>>336782029
SL and Weapon Upgrade you yourself have done. The weapon reinforcement is locked to the game after it is processed, so throwing away the weapon will not reset you back to a lower bracket. This also means that you can't be dropped weapons by your buddies if you have not reached the weapon reinforcement they drop, so you can't drop a +10 to someone on the +2 reinforcement bracket.
Any other good places to fuck with invaders like this? I figure the High Wall has a few spots, but people would just run past you and never engage Blues.
>>336782361
The run to Anor Londo.
>>336782342
>This also means that you can't be dropped weapons by your buddies if you have not reached the weapon reinforcement they drop, so you can't drop a +10 to someone on the +2 reinforcement bracket.
Can't you just drop the raw materials though?
>>336782439
As a Silver Knight?
>>336782361
I farmed the whole worker set + pitchfork in Undead Settlement then proceeded to hide among other NPCs near the tree with the witch. Its fun as fuck.
>>336782496
Or part of the scenery.
>>336777590
It's impressive how helpless some people are.
>>336782543
Gonna try that next, thanks. I'll probably have to find a good angle though, since the height-difference would be too obvious.
>>336782486
Nope. While materials can be dropped, the other player can't see them or interact with them.
>>336782614
Do steam achievements take into account people who have bought the game but haven't played it? There seem to be many of those.
OP here, I'm going for it now
Dancer shall die
>>336782764
Not sure, but I'd assume so. 90% of people have Enkindle, and it's hard to believe that 10% of people give up before that part of a $60 game.
I do like how you can see which bosses are harder than others by looking at the summon signs outside their fog gates, especially on NG+
Oceiros never really has any. The Champ and Dancer have a lot
>Tfw too poor to afford this shit right now.
>Panicked at the thought that it might die before I get a chance to experience it.
>Already regret missing the opening week.
>Overwatch coming out soon, right around the time I'll have a bit of cash free, might actually cuck me out of this game if I want to keep current with the shit my friends want me to play with them.
>/v/ memesters are actually getting to me with posts like OPs here.
Feels bad man.
>>336782767
If you're going for extreme twink, be sure to keep that Weapon Reinforcement level at 3 and under, anon.
>>336783001
bought it for 30€ instead of 60 on some cd key website
you're really poor anon
>>336782767
Get the BK Halberd from Champion Gundyr. That shit is whack at low levels since you can hit + spin combo people to death. Your stagger only wears off during the spin.
>>336783001
It's not that amazing, it's definitely not a huge grand experience like so many people's first run of Dark Souls 1 is. It's just another souls game.
What up with all the people with their huge e-penises talking shit on people who wanna coop?
Probably everyone here did their first playthrough solo, why does it matter after that point, who are you trying to prove?
It's fun to play through the game with friends
>>336783001
pirate it you fucking retard.
>>336783337
The game has been heavily marketed to the clueless shitter crowd who suck at the game and need 2+ phantoms to carry them through the level, just so they can say they "beat le super difficult dark souls xD".
>>336775731
Either too high a level or you got banned, kek.
>>336783421
But the online won't work and my friends on Steam won't be able to chat with me and see my achievements!
>>336781275
Nope, he's a retard who doesn't understand the games summon mechanics.
>>336775731
You can't summon people +-2 weapon levels of you retard, so you can now only summon/invade low level twinks with retarded as fuck weapon levels.
>>336783740
>online fix
>online won't work
No surprise you're poor if you're that retarded.
>>336783676
Read the thread, you fuck. It's posted like 3 posts down from the OP.
>>336783456
Over 40% of people who bought this game on Steam haven't ever beaten Deacons or Wolnir, let alone anything else
Hell 30% of people who own the game NEVER beat the Tree, a boss you can get to and beat in less then an hour from making a new character (and that's with normal playing pace, not rushing)
>>336778813
killed the old demon with the ceastus alone . i had fun punching him in the balls
>>336782767
Everything's going according to plan
>>336783967
Those stats are pretty par for the course though. 46% for Yhorm which is pretty far into the game is actually a lot.
>>336782061
you can't even send messages unless you add them to friends and they accept so it doesn't matter anyways.
>>336783967
yeah, no. If you're playing for the first time and make it to the tree in less then an hour, then you ARE rushing
>>336775731
Put it by a bonfire. That's the best luck I've had everytime.
>>336778813
I forgot the area existed then came back to after finishing the game
>>336777590
>First playthrough
>Heavy armor + Raw Estoc + with dark magic / miracles
>69.9% load with havel's ring and Havel's armor
>summoned for every single boss before I even tried it
>summoned 2 phantoms for every single invasion I had
>Only died more than twice on Nameless King
>game is a fucking cakewalk
>this triggers /v/ somehow
My fucking 7 year old nephew could complete this game, if he could focus long enough.
>>336784329
Yeah you can, on their profile. Already had some ganker talk shit.
>never summoned anyone through the entire game
>not because of any sense of "giting gud" but because every time I sign in to play the game I get five minutes of "retrieving latest calibrations" only to have it fail and have to play offline.
What the fuck is wrong with the Xbone servers, it's been like this since a couple days after launch.
This kinda worries me
I'm buying this game as soon as i finished my finals, which is 2 months from now
Will the online still be active by then?
>>336776518
Just summon sword master?
>>336778221
>Bodyguarding people in the crab swamp in full Ornstein cosplay
>mfw using the weapon art and skewering doggos for 70% of their hp
>>336784612
>deliberately cheating yourself out of any fun or challenge
What's the point? Might as well load up CE and teleport yourself to the end-credits.
>>336784372
This, honestly.
I spent a shit ton of time in each area, not because it was hard or I was stuck, I was just searching for secrets and learning the places, looking for other paths and missed items.
I spent about a half hour in firelink itself just talking to everyone and looking through the place (its like a fucking maze the first time you see it)
>>336778813
Old Demon isn't that difficult at all. The worst things about his is the odd startup of his close-range club slam and getting stuck in between his feet. Maybe I was just overlevelled.
I DID IT! (Master did it but whatever)
Thanks for the help anons
Now I have to kill every boss again because I restarted but thankfully only Aldrich was even remotely difficult at SL 15
Also to anyone wondering: I put 100+ hours into DaS3 already and finished it 5 times, now I wanna twink and shit, the game is only challenging if you limit yourself
>>336784741
truly depends on if From will balance the weapons, turn on Poise and fix magic.
if they don't do any of this, expect the online to be slower and everyone will still be using Estoc's and Darkswords.
all From has to do is fix these small crucial things but lets be honest, that won't happen.
>>336784869
If you're not autistic it's way more fun to find easy ways to beat and cheese bosses than MUH HARDCORE CHALLENGE 0 DEATHS SL1 runs
>>336784741
You're being fooled. Stop being fooled.
So is this game any good? Had a boner for soulsborne for years, enjoyed every game and suddenly, when ds3 came out, I lost interest in it (shitty laptop contributed in it too I think). So is DS3 better in comparison with ds1 and ds2?
>>336784372
Even if it's 10 hours, the point is over 1/3rds of players basically didn't even play the game. It might make sense if it was a cheap game or game that was recently on a massive sale or in a bundle so they bought it just to fill up their libraries, but it's strange to dump 50$+ on a game and then not play it.
>>336784741
No it won't be dead, I was just baiting to start a Dark Souls 3 discussion
There are still 10s of summon signs in front of bosses so worry not
How many stats do you focus on? Right now I'm trying to make a STR/Miracle build but it's been hard so far since it fucking sucks early on and I'm not sure what other stats to focus on
>>336785632
I'd consider all three games roughly on the same level, although in different parts (and with DLC included). Base game DS2 was the worst, but its DLC was the best in the series.
To be honest, DS3 has very little replayability and the PvP covenants are shit except for purple and red invasions. And once you've maxed out those two, there's nothing left to go for. Meanwhile NG+ adds absolutely nothing new to the game and the bosses are made even easier since they have so little HP.
Bosses in general are very inconsistent. Some fights are pointless gimmicks that are over in 30 seconds with no threat to you at all (Wolnir, Yhorm etc.).
The first two areas are pretty layered, with actual shortcuts that aren't just 'empty hallway leading with an elevator leading straight back to a does-not-open-from-this-side door next to the bonfire'. After that the game phones it and becomes extremely linear.
>level to 120 like in DaS
>now the only signs I get are fightclub memers and invasions don't exist outside the Red Eye Orb
I really wish I finished doing Aldrich Faithful before going to NG+. now every time it tries to connect me to someone it fucking times out
gotta farm stupid fucking Dregs AND Concords now
>>336785141
thanks for confirming that twinks are bottom bitches who need summons to progress
>>336786105
here is how im doing my current run.
33 Vit
14 End
10 Vig
14 Str
20 Dex
8 or so Int
16 Fth (will raise this once i gather some fucking Miracles)
basically focused on Vit, stopped that and now im thinking of going maybe 30 in FTH and the rest in Dex until 40. but im already lvl 50 or so, so its probably detrimental.
i went in thinking i would start a Dex/Fth build but all the miracles are shit and took waaay to fucking long to get, so i just stuck with Med Heal and Caressing Tears (removes toxins and shit)
>>336785632
if you have a shit laptop don't bother.
i met someone during the release week who i tricked into letting me kill them a few times as a moundmakerit was great, /v/ called me a hero, /vg/ called me autistic
anyway, his PC is fucking shit sometimes and when he summons me for bosses its like a 20% chance we DC because his Framerate gets too low for online play. its fucking lols
