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>a f2p shooter being sold as a full price title how do people
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>a f2p shooter being sold as a full price title
how do people defend this?
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Don't be silly. The singleplayer, customizable maps, custom game modes, private servers, 128 tickrate, and moddability give the game so much replayability.
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>its ok when Valve charged $60 for TF2 before it went F2P
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You forget they are selling an open beta.
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>>336747938
None of those things exist in the game.
I get that it was sarcasm, but why bother with that?
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>>336747795
It keeps out BRs and Eastern Europeans.

Worth the price of admission for that alone tbqh family
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>>336748004

>TF2
>ever being 60 dollars

Gonna need a source famalam.
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>>336748004
I got it as bonus with EP2.
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>>336748004

you mean $50 for tf2, portal, and the half life 2 series right?
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>>336748004
>Valve charged $60 for TF2
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>>336748004
I bought tf2 standalone. I think it was $20 at the time?
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>>336748735
I bought the TF2+Garry's Mod package for $20.
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Wasn't the orange box 60?
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>>336747795
I would pay $20 for the game, but the game strikes me as eventually going f2p anyway, so I will just wait for that to happen.
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>>336747795
Capcom sold a F2P fighting game for $60, so why not?
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>>336749289
Blizzard wouldn't do that. If it was going to go f2p it would've started like that, like HotS and Hearthstone.
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>>336749439
>HotS
Blizzard is still retarded for releasing two games with the same initialism.
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>>336749340

Because it wasn't okay when they did it?

>>336749439

Blizzard is notorious for going back on their promises.

>2010, they promise that SC2 will only be 3 installments
>2016, 4 installments and counting (the Nova mission pack is now being broken into multiple pricey DLCs)
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>>336747938
DELETE THIS
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>>336747795

Keep crying Ivan, glad to know you and Eduardo will not be an issue in this game.
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>>336747795
>full price
>the game is 40
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>i would rather have a game where i have to grind/pay for heroes and be constantly nagged about buying hats because my birthday isn't until late this fall

Nobody cares what poorfags think. Overwatch is great and the fact that you people won't play it just makes it better.
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>>336749185
>>336749185

and it came with 4 other games, the other two not even being released beforehand.
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>>336750186
every time without fail
blizzcucks literally praising the fact that they have to pay get access to this garbage.
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>>336750186

>anime pic
>condescending strawman
>no mention of game quality
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>>336750186

It's not that. It's just that in this day and age, people expect a bit more for their money. $40 for such a small game just doesn't feel worth it. It's the sort of game most people will probably play for a few hours and just never bother playing again.

No one wants to pay $40 for something that wont last them more than a few hours, especially when FPS games are common as fuck and most offer more than this one for a similar price point.
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>>336747938
So everything TF2 has but with a price tag?

Also, it's 20 tick servers. I believe 64 is the highest for custom servers.
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>>336748279


Never tought about that. Holy shit this game will be amazing.
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>>336747795
>2016
>that kid who still wants to work for Blizzard
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>>336750186
>$40 to play 5 fun heroes in two game modes across irrelevant maps
With an extra serving of joining a payload server with 40 seconds left and you're getting shit on.
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>people keep saying how deep the gameplay in Overwatch is
>saying things like there's counterpicking as if it's a MOBA
>the hitboxes are fucking huge, aiming takes no skill and all of the heroes are braindead easy to use

Lmao.

Not saying it isn't fun, but this game is really relying on its art style and waifus for its appeal.
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>>336750687
I would work for Blizzard. It probably beats working in my shitty corp.
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>>336748004
Holy fuck summer 16 Year olds here.
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>>336748004
Man you made yourself look ridiculous.
You must be embarrassed.
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>>336751060
Working for EA or Zynga is more dignifying at this point.
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>>336751040
If the limiting factor of your vidya is your pocketbook and not the amount of quality games available then I'm glad you're not getting it.

>>336750451
Pay to get access? That's how games used to work before F2P ruined it. I guess you're too young to remember.
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>>336751449
The limiting factor is that I won't buy games that aren't worth the amount they are being sold for.
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>>336751449
>Pay to get access? That's how games used to work before F2P ruined it. I guess you're too young to remember.
Blizzdrones in charge of reading comprehension.
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>on /v/
>fun MP game comes out
>can't pirate it because MP only
>GUYYYYS WHY ISN'T IT F2P?

Lmao, it's like a window into the future when everyone uses Denuvo and games become uncrackable.

I can't wait to be honest, the buttblasting here will be incredible.

>t-the game is shit! I-I didn't even want to play it anyway
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>>336751835
I really don't understand what I'm supposedly not getting. The fact that kids who think $40 for a fleshed out multiplayer is a dealbreaker shouldn't be playing. Enjoy that F2P games you poorfags pretend to love whatever it's called? Dirty Boys or something?

>>336751727
To you. To most people, people who matter that is, $40 isn't enough to stop someone from buying a game they like.
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>>336751386
But it's probably also less stable. Blizzard might have lost their reputation but they still take things slowly and you are less prone to getting laid off after project.
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>>336752075


>Uuuur duuur huw it's called ? "Dirty Boy" eh ? let me tell ya sumthing' captn' it aint no game for me oooooh no"
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I'm alright with the $40 price but won't buying because locked $10~$20 dlc characters.
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>>336752075
>people that matter that is
Here comes the superiority complex in the same vein as apple supporters.
>$40 isn't enough to stop someone from buying a game they like
You can like bad games. Just look at HotS and Hearthstone. Plenty of people that support it despite better games in the same genre being just as easily accessible.
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>>336752002
>it's good because it costs money
cant make that shit up. people are actually this retarded
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>60$
>mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCu_wd_bulw
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>>336752116
>stable
>SC is dead
>WoW is dying
>HoTS DoA
>D3 on life support
>Ow likely DoA

Trust me, they lay off all the time and hush it just as fast.

You can live off Sim properties alone for years and make shit tons more money than "we can pay you less because we're a big deal" companies living off hype from a decade ago.

Blizzard is a dying relic being eaten alive by Activision and the last thing they want is their employees knowing it. Too late for the top talent anyway. They all left like Pardo did.
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>>336752286
All of the DLC is free
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>>336748004
It's okay, you didn't know, game's almost ten years old now after all.

You were way too young back then, underage scum.
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>>336747795
it's fun, just not $70 fun
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>>336752357
It's good because the money it costs excludes poorfags and most third worlders.

>>336752323
I don't see how this compares to HS or HotS? Both those games are F2P and suffer the problems that come with it. Guess that's what you'll be playing, huh?

>>336752263
Lighten up, poorfag.
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>>336747938
>>336748004
Of course the first two posters are baiting.

Is all the shit >>336747938 mentioned even on Overwatch? I'm doubting that custom modes and mod support were planned.
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>>336752002
FOTMs can't happen anymore because everything is shilling. I can accept that it's casual as fuck but it doesn't have enough content to justify $40. I'm too much of a jew for value.
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>>336752357
>it's good because it costs money

Much better model than F2P, as if I want any poorfag or BR shitting up my games.

I mean just look at the state of TF2 or Dota 2.
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>best FPS to come out in years
>costs nearly fifty quid
shit
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>>336752605
>I don't see how this compares to HS or HotS?
The sentence right before that one tells you how they are related. They're both examples of bad games that people like.
>Guess that's what you'll be playing, huh?
Certainly not that garbage.
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>>336752486
>underage scum
he's going to outlive your ass and possibly by a shit ton if technology keeps progressing

you're fucking ignorant
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>>336747795
Blizzard drones eats anything blizzard shits on their plate, that legend is indeed true.
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>>336752775
>Much better model than F2P
But it has a F2P model anyway. Either remove skins entirely or make them all available from the start.
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>>336747795
It's really just not that good

I doubt 50% of the people saying they're going to buy it actually follow through
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>>336752542
$70

Like one google search and you could have improved your bait so much.
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>>336752542
Good thing its 40 then
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>>336752775
of course it's a better price model. but contradicting any critism towards the price itself by saying "lmao poorfag" is beyond retarded. guess that guy pays for other peoples poop if the price is high enough since that will be the reason why poorfags wont pay for the turd.
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>>336753045
Overwatch isn't a turd though, it's great and no not just because of the 'hurr muh waifu xddd'

It's free to play until the 9th.
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>>336747795
>20 tick rate
People actually defend this
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>>336752945
I'll probably buy if my friends do. They fell into the ASSFAGs trap so I haven't played any vidya with them in a few years. I can put up with Overwatch being casual as fuck and overpriced if it means reconnecting. But given their track record they'll probably play it for a week and go back to League.
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>>336747795
>grandpas mad that tf2 is being pushed further into irrelevancy
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>>336753364
TF2 is also shit. At least it's free without a shitty tick rate and much better community servers.
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>>336753364
http://steamcharts.com/app/440
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>It's another why i can't have stuff for free thread
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>>336753364
just like HOTS did with league/dota amirite? xD

nobody will actually pay money for this game
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>>336753349
That is literally the exact phenomena I'm talking about.

The only people who like this game are people who like League of Legends.

It's a bad joke. Just sit and watch the tide of opinion turn in the next couple of months. It's going to be fascinating.
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>>336753498
overwatch is worth -10 dollars
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>>336748004
nah it cost 20 bucks. i remember. i bought it in 2009. first steam game i ever had
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>>336753045
Oh so overwatch is a turd now? Used to be your criticism was that it was fun but not fun enough for your empty wallet.

Don't worry though I'm sure you can get it for christmas.
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>>336753471
>eat shit! Tens of thousands of flies can't be wrong!
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>>336747795
Game play is pretty shallow. If it were 10-20 dollars I'd pay for it I guess. I don't want to shell $40 because I can't see myself playing it for long, it's pretty boring.
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>>336752874
Jesus this damage control
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>>336753594
It's a smart business move. Make it so even people who are terrible at vidya can do "cool ults" every 30 seconds and feel like they actually did something.
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>>336753796
overwatch may have problems but it is in no way shit
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>>336753680
who do you think you are replying to idiot.
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>>336753596
Who the fuck is forcing you to buy it?
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>>336753949
You, buddy.
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$0 bucks minimum is fucking unacceptable. 20 bucks maybe, but it's terribly empty feeling and the lack of custom user content is going to hurt it a lot in the long run. The skin/emote/spray system also reeks of weird F2P stuff, so why it's in a P2P game is beyond me. It feels very janky to play, but maybe because it's twice as much moba as it is FPS and I don't like mobas at all.
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>>336754024
>Used to be your criticism was that it was fun but not fun enough for your empty wallet
show me where i said that, moron
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>>336754141
Well it's the argument we're discussing. So if you're jumping in on my posts I'll assume you're one of them as long as you're not saying otherwise.

Welcome to 4chan though.
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>>336747795
I defend it by saying I won't have to play with close to as many F2P Brazilians and furfag autists
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>>336754117
>because it's twice as much moba as it is FPS

It's barely a MOBA at all just because you have some abilities and ultimate doesn't mean shit.

TF2 literally has more depth than Overwatch does right now.
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People trying to convince themselves a game is bad purely because they can't afford it and can't pirate it will always be funny to me.
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>>336751046
>relying on its art style and waifus for its appeal
Well, it's working for me. I'll keep playing the beta but I probably won't pick it up until it goes on sale.
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>>336754219
if you cant look beyond that you should maybe fuck off back to plebbit
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>>336754342
People trying to convince others a game is good purely because they imply others can't afford it and can't pirate it will always be funny to non autists.
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I'm not worried about price, I'm getting it for free for my birthday, plus the one who's buying it for me is getting it AND his copy for $10. Knowing people at Blizzard has its perks.
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>>336754232
Your FPS skill doesn't matter nearly as much in this as does your team comp. I'm no FPS god, but I'm pretty decent and played around with everyone for a bit, but the stupid amount of movement techs, the way that everyone either dies to a sneeze or is a tank getting healed and sucks up damage like a champ is a bit too wide of a gap for me to handle properly, and the overall speed of the game means that hitscan weapons are just better than the projectile classes for most engagements. It tries to mix MOBA and FPS but doesn't quite get the idea that, in an FPS, someone with enough skill can basically roll over a team on his own, but even if you're super fed in a MOBA, you'll still lose if your numbers aren't all there, and Overwatch feels a lot more like the latter.
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>>336754342
People trying to convince themselves that a game can only be disliked if someone can't afford it will always be funny to me.
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>336752948
>336753016

t. non-australian citizens
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>>336754342
Activision please, maybe it's because they tried the beta and simply didn't like it.
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>>336753216
Same as Quake 3.
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>>336754647
no its because they cant afford it .. doesnt even matter that it's shit xD
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>>336754631
Just don't buy it on the Bnet store it's a ripoff no matter what country you live in.
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>>336747795
It's fun and I like that it actually is complete without microtransactions
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>>336754117
>The skin/emote/spray system also reeks of weird F2P stuff, so why it's in a P2P game is beyond me

it's called unlocks. they are what games used back before publishers realized you could just put a price tag on every single thing in the game and suckers would buy it

>it's twice as much moba as it is FPS

the only vaguely moba thing it has is ultimates, which function identically to medic's uber in TF2. there are no levels, no creeps, no items, no towers, no jungling
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>>336754607
>>336754647
>literally no one in the thread saying how Overwatch is bad
>just people crying how it's not F2P

Lol yeah okay buddies, this denial is even funnier.

Keep pretending how you don't want it and I'll just keep drinking up the tears.
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Can anyone give me a reason to buy this game?
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>>336754117
>The skin/emote/spray system also reeks of weird F2P stuff

But these things don't effect game balance whatsoever, why would ANYONE be upset about this?
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>>336755205
why would we do that? it's in open beta. go fucking try it and decide for yourself
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>>336755176
>>literally no one in the thread saying how Overwatch is bad
>literally outing yourself that you don't know how to read
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Did F2P games suddenly become better than paid games or did I miss something?
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>>336754661
It's not 1999 anymore with 28 Kbps modems. If the game had a server browser and let people host their own then people could set the tickrate to whatever they wanted.
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>>336755205
It's literally F2P until the 9th you nigger just go play it yourself.
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>>336755176
>I can't read
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>>336747795
Poor fag thread/

Get a job.
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>>336755371
Are there really no additional modes in the full release? There are only two game modes for $40?
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>>336755176
That's cute, you're in such delusion you're unable to read.
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>>336755457
You say this as if TF2 had more than Capture the flag and point capture at release. Payload didn't come until later, people seem to forget that.
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>>336755314
no. F2P games, even well designed, are still miserable because of the player base. Moba fans are used to getting their games for free, though, and they are so out of touch that they think any competitive game should be free.
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JESUS CHRIST YOU FAGS WILL MOAN ABOUT ANYTHING!

Come on guys if you think ti is overpriced then fucking wait and if you really like it and can afford it then buy it. This thread is dumb.
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>>336755521
TF2 was sold with Portal and HL2 though.
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>>336755158
But unlocks are usually gated on achievements/levels so that you know exactly what you need to accomplish to get the cosmetic you want. Having it be pseudo-random where you just have to brute force it to get the one you want seems very counter-intuitive.

The abilities each hero has are all pretty simple in and of themselves, and there's a decent amount of overlap, but spreading it out among (at the time) classes along with the variety of different weapons, movespeeds, inability to determine if someone has their ultimate or not, and healthpools means that you aren't following the fairly homogenized system that TF2 set up, nor are you following the identical minus weapons system that Quake set up. It might be that it's just not my kind of game, but it feels like it's trying to juggle too many feathers at once, if that makes sense. Juggling feathers itself is fairly easy, but when you've got 20 of them in the air, it's not going to look very coordinated or impressive.

>>336755271
I'm not bothered as much as I am confused by it. If I had to guess, it's only there because A. Blizzard intended the game to be F2P at the start or B. is going to make it F2P once the profits get to a low enough level.
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>>336748004
>He doesn't know about the Orange Box.
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>>336755521
Point capture was a bit more dynamic though, you had 5cp, A/D and Hydro. Though yes, they are all point capture. I hope overwatch adds a similar mode to 5cp.
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>>336755574

>Company sells apples for a hundred dollars when they're subpar at best
>"Wow this is really not worth the price tag"
>OMG YOU GUYS WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING FUCKING /V/ HATES EVERYTHING REEEEEE

How much do you get per post, bro?
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>>336755176
kid you're a fuck up
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>>336748004

Times have changed, anon. OW being 60$ is a joke.
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>>336755271
If you want shitty skins download them from sites like gamebanana. Don't turn them into a business model.
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>>336755596
Nobody has ever released anything like the Orange Box since. That was a special thing Valve did, and even then you could still buy all three games individually off Steam.
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>>336748004

TF2 standalone was 20 dollars, what the fuck are you talking about.

They even had multiple sales on it. Shit I remember once they fucked up and made it like 3 dollars for a whole weekend or something and bought like 5 copies.
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>>336755382
>>336755463
There are literally only two posts in the entire thread that actually comment on the gameplay in a negative light. There's barely any posts about the gameplay at all.

A majority of the thread is bitching about payment models.

Stay retarded though, not like I'll ever have to play with you losers who can't even afford this game lmao.

Hope you still find TF2 fun :^)
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>>336755158
I'm against unlocks too. Everything should be available from the start. No experience/level progression to unlock shit.
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>>336755868
Unrelated to the thread, but I really fucking miss that Valve. Doing crazy shit like the OB is so much cooler and better for the consumer than the workshop and fucking paid mods shit that we have today.
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>>336755892
If you can respond to multiple people at the same time, and STILL believe you're not a complete fucking twit, you have my sympathy.

>posts ":^)" ironically

You're a fag.
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>>336755574
>Come on guys if you think ti is overpriced then fucking wait and if you really like it and can afford it then buy it. This thread is dumb.

It's called having a discussion you tard
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I will never understand why people want Blizzard to be Valve. They're two separate entities and both do their own shit their own way. Putting expectations for Blizzard games with Valve games is asinine.

Blizzard has public shareholders, Valve doesn't. Blizzard doesn't have the ability to do the shit Valve does because the only person with the final say for Valve is Gabe, and not the hundereds of suits and shareholders who want to make money.
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>>336755892
Sorry that I don't enjoy MOBAs anon, I hope you can.
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>>336755574
fuck off jew
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>>336755748
>AAA fps for $40 when most AAA games are $60
>apple for $100 when most apples are $0.50
great food analogy m8
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>>336755892
Are people seriously not allowed to disagree?

Are you fucking 10 years old?
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>>336755528
What do you think about CS:GO? Is it miserable?
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>>336755951
the only things locked are cosmetics. are you going to throw a hissyfit because you can't dress your waifu in pink without playing for 2 hours first?
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>>336755892
You can be condescending all you want shill but I'm still not going to buy your shallow game.
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>>336756041
Money talks, and Valve makes mountains of money thanks to locked crates in TF2. More than they ever did actually making games.

People here defend it, so whatever.
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>>336748004
>$60
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>>336756050
>can't refute my posts at all

Just delicious.

>>336756116
>Sorry that I don't enjoy MOBAs anon, I hope you can.

Overwatch isn't even close to a MOBA other than having abilities and an ultimate, thanks for commenting about a game you haven't even played, really bolsters your credibility champ.

>>336756236
See all you're doing is disagreeing, but you're not actually presenting any counter-arguments.
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>>336756335
I don't think cosmetics should be a thing at all but if customization is included then yes they need to be available from the start.
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>>336755521
>You say this as if TF2 had more than Capture the flag and point capture at release. Payload didn't come until later, people seem to forget that.
TF2 was only $20 though so it made sense.
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>>336748279
I hope it always stays full price
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>>336756483
Hello friend perhaps you can take a look at my post, thanks. It addresses some of the things that make it more MOBA-like than any game before.
>>336755601
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>>336756501
>I don't think cosmetics should be a thing at all
i'm guessing you don't play any multiplayer game made within the past decade?
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>>336747795
>f2p
>letting hacking pieces of shit bombard your game
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>>336752775
>He plays on plebby public Valve servers and still talks shit about TF2
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>>336756602
But it was a full game based off a mod. Any higher price would have been retarded. Overwatch is at least an "original" game and not an adaptation of a player made mod.
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>all of these shitposting morons who can't play FPS to save their lives will be weeded out at launch
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>>336756758
That's a terrible argument since TF2 is nothing like TFC. Same idea for gameplay but that's it.
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>>336756781
The game is incredibly retard friendly.

The hitboxes are fucking huge and most of the ultimates are just 'press Q to kill a bunch of people with no skill required'.
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They've said that you get all new characters and maps for free, but you can pay to get fancy costumes.
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>get potg as mei
>team says gj mei
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>>336756984
Dota 2 is nothing like Dota 1. It doesn't really matter.
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>>336757110
Right, thanks for supporting my argument.
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>>336747795
it will be free when they have enough cahs shop items to sell a couple of years down the road
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>>336757065
and you won't be playing it
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>>336748735
>>336749080
>dat orange box
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>>336757253
Blizz promised we would get all DLC free for paying the $40. I won't bat a fucking eye though if they go back on their word.
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>>336755876
>Shit I remember once they fucked up and made it like 3 dollars for a whole weekend or something and bought like 5 copies.
Valve did several super cheap sales with TF2 before it went f2p for shits and giggles. I recall it being on sale for like 10c for about an hour. They did it to collect data on how special super cheap sales influence sales numbers.
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>>336752002
"""""""""""""fun""""""""""""""
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>>336757089
>get a triple kill all headshots with hanzo
>potg is some fag standing still and getting a triple with his minigun
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>>336757371
If I had to guess, they'll keep the characters/maps free, but the cosmetics won't be. That's optimistic. The brutal, not technically a lie idea is that they don't charge you for the characters, but they can only be bought with the weird in-game currency that you can unbox OR MAYBE JUST BUY AT A LOW PRICE FROM US HUH HOW ABOUT THAT. Basically just turning it into Pay2NotGrind.
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>>336756483
>being an actual faggot

oh okay that explains everything enjoy being a fag
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>>336748004
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>>336757512
>quad kill with widowmaker, headshots left and right
>POTG is our torbjorn whacking his turret during ult
every time
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Does anyone else get terrible stuttering? Like, things seem fine and the in-game thing shows my fps hovering around 150-200, but when I start like doing anything, I get horrible stuttery drops to 0 every 3/4 seconds and it makes it basically unplayable. I'm not playing on a toaster and I've notched the settings down to minimum anyway, is it just a weird thing the game does or is it a sign of the times to upgrade?
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>>336747795

eheheheh 80085 :D
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Ice chink has to be the most infuriating and OP character in the game.

Netcode needs alot of work too, having people escape (especially spread weapons) is fucking gay.
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>>336758054
OP? No, but she's pretty fucking annoying. That's why I go Pharah or Tracer and just fucking kite that chink bitch.
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>>336747795
>Cant afford $60

whew
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>overtime in payload
>enemy is LITERALLY meters from victory with 3 on the objective
>use mei's ult
>kill all three of them
>win the game and get potg
>they're all salty af
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>Thats so: Turret who should be shooting but is busy admiring dat ass
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>>336756234
this is not a AAA game though.
It is just a failed mmo which used those assets and cobbled a quick cash grab fps
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Am I going to need PS plus to play it when it comes out?
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>>336758394

Mei is THICK and CUTE. I would impregnate her.
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>>336748004
The Neo Blizzard community everyone.
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>>336758394
Overbutts is a good game man
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>>336758239
not an argument
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>>336758394
This game is literally going to get half its players from waifu faggots.

Blizzard are geniuses.
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>>336758781
I will admit to having zero interest if Mercy wasn't a character.
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>>336758919
Yeah, fair enough, but how long is that going to hold you?
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>tfw have GTX 760
>everything set to low, no AA, full screen 1080p
>card goes anywhere from 80-86 degrees celsius
Kill me
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>>336759006
>tfw when have the cash to buy a 970 but don't want to fall for the meme.
>forced to wait for new cards to come out and keep using a 560
Kill me first.
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>>336758981
As long as people treat me like a healslut.
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It's not worth 60$ but blizzdrones will buy anything that is fed to them.

Also, anyone trying to justify the game being worth 60$ should kill themselves
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>>336759286
Anon, there are much better games/ways to be a healslut.
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>>336759286
that's lewd
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>>336758170
She's pretty OP. If you're even remotely close to her, you might as well put your mouse down, because there's nothing that'll stop her.

It's worse because the netcode is fucking dogshit, and it's easy for her to escape or go iceblock just before she runs out of health. Anytime she gets grabbed, she can just cancel it with iceblock as well.

All these problems are multiplied when there is more than 1 on the field.
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>>336756328
>CS:GO

It's the most popular PC shooter, and the players are mostly annoying. But I don't like it regardless of them. Its aesthetics are horribly bland and the core mechanics bore me. Even more than the weapons, movement is basic as fuck. There is no dodging, so if you meet an opponent around a corner, there is fuck all you can do except aim at him or maybe crouch. Run speed is also too slow for my taste and there are no vehicles or options for vertical movement. I won't deny the skill of its top players, or that it's well-balanced overall, but the base design is no fun compared to the all out detail of a military game like Verdun or a balls to the wall arena shooter like Rise of the Triad.
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>>336759516
It's all new to me since I haven't played an MMO since Ragnarok. What should I try?
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>>336759693
FFXIV is the hot place for healsluts, from what I know.
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>>336758709
$60 games have been baseline since over a decade ago, quit complaining and get a job
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>>336759778
Is it a WoW clone though? I don't like that style gameplay which is why I haven't played anything since RO.
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>>336759006
I had a GTX 760 before I got a 970, it's a good card and I thought it would be enough for this game.

Try setting a frame limit if you haven't, and don't set render scale to 'auto' or the game will use higher resolutions on less complex scenes. That does look good, but I think your average heat will go down if you keep your render scale constant.
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>>336759846
Never pay more than $20 for a computer game.
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>>336759936
More or less, yes.
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>>336760041
k
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>>336760041
You must be some kind of expert at Minesweeper.
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>>336747795
But...it's not f2p though.
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>>336759547
I feel she's pretty OP in the koth modes because that wall is fucking ridiculous. I guess she is kind of OP in the regard that she can contest a point in her ice block and just regen health. I really hate her interaction with the freeze, how you can't do anything and you're helpless to die. Not a fun mechanic, it's hard to avoid if you're not a mobile character and she catches you off guard. What an annoying fucking character god damn.
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>40$
>Full Price

Y-Yeah Man
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>>336756483
PEE PEE PANTS CITY
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>>336759950
I can play the game fine on high with a GTX 750ti though, 40+fps it shouldn't be that much of a difference
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>>336747795
>>336748405
>>336750687
>stupid frog posters

Go back to assfaggots cucks
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>>336761287
760 is a better card, but it is gimped to hell with the current drivers because old Kepler design. 750ti was the first to use the current Maxwell design.
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>>336753216
That's such a cop-out argument, though.

Especially since people have been playing competitive level games on 20 tickrate servers for DECADES with no problem.
It's just one more thing to blame your loss on. It's the "I was lagging!" of the new generation.
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>>336761965
It's not 1999 anymore. Even by UT2k4 the default was still 20 but most servers ran at 35 or 40 because it was configurable.
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i gave this game a chance

its just so casual it hurts, really really hurts
absolutely no depth, most heroes' shooting mechanics are so trivial that tf2 makes it seem like its arma to it

the ults is fucking a horrendous design, no cost and no skill for free frags

besides the awful framerate, the servers feel so fucking awful, you know BF 2142 when you were on top of a titan? thats exactly how this game feels

how this game could be worth more than $15 is beyond me
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>>336762192
It's the framerate argument all over again, except in this case, if nobody told you the number, you would actually never notice
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>>336762392
Mate, if you can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 FPS or a 60 and 120hz monitor, you might just have some stuff wrong.
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>>336748004
it wasl ike $20 on its own cockhead
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>>336762651
No no you got it backwards.

You CAN tell what the FPS is.

It's a LOT harder to tell what the tickrate is.

Anyone who says they can't play a game that's 30fps, yeah, alright, I think you're a jackass, but I can see your point.

Anyone who says they can't play a game that's 20tickrate is a liar, and is just looking for things to complain about for complaining's sake.
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>>336754584
>but even if you're super fed in a MOBA, you'll still lose if your numbers aren't all there

Look at 2012 motherfucking Sion lifesteal/dmg builds. My god the penta kills...
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You know, people forget, Vanilla TF2 only had, like, five maps and three game modes.

And nine characters with zero loadout variations.
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>>336762901
You can very easily tell on a demo review and when they pull up the hitboxes for the stuff. It's a lot less noticeable to your eye, but it also means that sometimes you'll just whiff shots that you should've otherwise hit. CS:GO is a pretty clear demonstration of this with the divide between casual and comp server tickrates.
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>>336763058
You'll never miss anything nigger because most of the weapons in this game are clientside hitscan garbage and the ones that are projectile based have very forgiving hitboxes.
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>>336762968
And came packed in with three other games.
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F2p is absolute cancer and the only game to do it correctly was Smite because it gave you an option to not be a fucking Brazilian and pay for the game to get everything.

Dota and TF2 need not apply because blizzard would never do the cosmetic only f2p. It would be LoL style buy every hero for 15$ each.
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>>336763150
It feels extremely sloppy compared to TF2, which handles hitscan and projectiles fairly well for being as old and as clustered as it is.
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>BAWWWWWWW WHY DO LUXURY ITEMS COST MONEY? BAWWWWWWWW

If you're complaining about having to pay for a video game, fucking kill yourself.
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>>336752824
If a lot of people like it, it's not a bad game. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it sucks.
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>>336748279
>He doesn't know BRs get a discount of the game
HueHue here, this game is actually pretty popular here, I can see a scene growing. Prepare yourself.
Real talk why can't we get custom servers? Brazilians prefer playing on low ping when it comes to shooters, I'd host one myself if I could.
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>>336752075
It's not fleshed out multiplayer
It's actually pretty damn shallow
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>>336752286
>people still don't know all future DLC will be free
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>mfw poorfags will continue to complain and argue for things that'll never happen while I'm gonna have fun with the game on launch
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>>336763536
>BRs
>Buying games

Topests of keks
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>>336763608
I don't trust that from blizzard
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>>336763824
? they announced this back in like December, why would they go back on it?
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>>336750186
when the game finally does go f2p, i'll make sure to bully the fuck out you, you cancerous weeb shitposting scum
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>>336749578
>wings of liberty
>heart of the swarm
>legacy of the void
There's going to be more?
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>there are pro-blizzard posters on /v/ now
>there are pro pay2play posters on /v/ now

what has this board become
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>>336754342
epic strawman

people are saying the game is bad, AND that it's not worth the price, not that's it's one because the other
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>>336758781
it worked for Riot
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>>336763665
>giving money to blizzard

good goy
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>>336758394
>the doubletake when he sees the enemy coming out of the spawn

kek
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>>336764294
They're doing single-player DLC no-one really cares about. Though hopefully enough people do, since it'll keep SC2 afloat.
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>>336764310
it was always like this, people just stopped pretending to hate them while some never caught on that the "blizzard is evil" meme stopped being funny years ago
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>>336765671
>pretending
>"blizzard is evil" meme
>>>>>>meme

go die pls
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>>336765756
>he actually thinks blizzard is evil
you need to lighten up, dude, it's just a game
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>>336765875
BUT THEY RUINED VIDEOGAMES ANON, FOR ALL OF US
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>>336765283
Not him but at least I have money to spend. :3
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>>336757606
ASSBLASTED!!!!!!!!
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>>336760697
>TF2
>"Free."
lol
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>>336754801
But there are
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>>336759006
>>336759950
>have 7850 + i3 3.2ghz
>having 30fps even on low settings
>the fuck is this shit?
>notice FPS lock on by default
>turn it off
>constant 100
>turn up graphics to high + custom high effects even more
>still 100
pretty good optimized game for me at least
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>>336748004
lel
dumbass, i payed $30 for TF2 when it was BRAND NEW in 2007 and this was JUST TF2, not Orange Box.
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>>336747795
>60 kangaroo pouches for the standard over here
Wew actually enjoyed playing too but no
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>>336755761
>OW being 60$

yeah if you want some retarded skins, just buy it pc retail for like $30
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>>336766564
but they unironically did
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>sell the game for full price
>still have to use real money to get skins
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>>336748004
spot the underage
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FUNKY FUNKY TURNIPSFUNKY FUNKY TURNIPSFUNKY FUNKY TURNIPS
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