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Jesus Christ, AM is an asshole
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Jesus Christ, AM is an asshole
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>>336709712
>AM is an asshole
holy shit i never realized
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>>336709712
Yes. Yes he is.
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Did you play through the entire game and only realize it at the end?
On a scale of 1 to 10 of denseness, you'd be Osmium.
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>>336710572
U mad?
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>>336711692
Perpetually.
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>>336709712

Man this game is great

>filled with nothing but despair as you read the short story and most of the game
>AM is built up to be truly unstoppable
>through max shenanigans you somehow achieve a good end

extremely satisfying
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Harlan Ellison is a fucking awesome and gets no love.
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A.M.'s what you get when you cross HAL 9000 and Satan.

Other rogue A.I. usually try to make some excuse for themselves, like cold pragmatism, or violent self-preservation, but A.M.'s just that guy who got too close to the heart of humanity and decided that he loves being a dickhead.
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>>336709712
>>336712506
I actually really liked how the game served as a sequel of sorts to the original.

For as unrepentantly grim as the short story was, it's nice knowing that some form of happy ending could exist. albeit through cheating or an inhuman amount of trial and error
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>>336709712
AM is also the most powerful fictional AI

I dare you to try and name one
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>>336713330
I'm sure plenty of stories have dealt with the idea of genocidal machine overlords that had expanded their reach beyond Earth.

But what's unsettling about A.M was his conscious control over the physical makeup of the survivors. To the point where their ultimate goal is simply finding a way to be able to die.
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>>336714395
>by me3
Bro we kill organics so they cant make Ai that wipe out organics
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>>336714774
ME3's explanation made a bit more sense once Leviathan and the Extended Cut backtracked on things and basically explained that the Reapers were stuck in a loop misinterpreting their programming.
Trying to preserve life by killing the organics and synthetics that rose to power before they could completely destroy everything, but leaving lesser races to take their place.

It still undermines the whole cosmic horror feel that they had in the first game though. But I suppose that any explanation would have done that.
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>>336713330
http://multivax.com/last_question.html
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>>336714774
The other anon asked for an AI that was more powerful, not one that was smart.
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>>336715478
Backtracking on the explanation doesn't fix the fact that the ending still forces you to accept their choices.
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>>336716152
this is always such a neat read.
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>>336709712
how does this compare to the original short story? is it loyal to the source? is it shit in comparison? is it good?
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>>336715478
>But I suppose that any explanation would have done that.

Pretty much. The best part about reapers in ME was that you didn't know dick about them. One single scout vessel was able to buttfuck basically the entire gallaxy.

I still remember what Mass Effect could have been when I replay that game. Fuck EA, holy shit.
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>>336717892
It's pretty damn _fun________
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>>336717892
Well, Harlan Ellison helped with the project and actually voiced A.M.

It has the problems of older adventure games that really needed a guide if you wanted finding solutions to things to make sense, but I like it from a narrative perspective, in how it expands on the psychological issues of the different characters, and gives them all different backstories and personal Hells that they have to overcome.

Some dialogue performance hasn't aged well and can come across as a bit hammy, but I still appreciated the themes it sought to explore.
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>>336709712
It's not that bad, I think that AM had a little of mercy, otherwise he would make him into Anthony Burch
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>>336709712
Relevant

https://youtu.be/sIW5rP7S3ak
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>mfw playing Gorrister the first time
that was some serious shit there
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>>336709712
You realize the fate from the bad ending/short story ending was basically AM trying to illustrate his own situation right?

AM has been in constant agony for every microsecond of his existence but he is unable to kill himself to make it stop even when he destroyed the whole world he continued to exist he has no mouth and he must scream.
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>>336712669
Probably because he a psychotic mean old bastard that hates people being happy especially himself
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>>336713330
The sephirotic system lord things from Orion's arm?
>Giant solar system sized sapient networks that can think trillions of times faster than even the most advanced cyborgs.
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AM did nothing wrong.
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>>336715478
Maybe they SHOULDN'T have explained it. Just have the final fight be a way of temporarily through the reapers of of the galaxy's scent and have the final boss be the singular reaper or something. Nearly anything would have been a million times preferable to the cookie cutter garbage we got.
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>>336718971
>themes it dared to explore

The holocast part of the game is fucking brutal to play through. Jesus christ what a game
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>>336719721
Benny's story got to me.

The idea that A.M. created an entire artificial society just for the sake of recreating The Lottery with them

And Benny's just wandering around trying to satiate his hunger through any means possible.
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>>336722001
It sucks that they deleted the scene where Benny eats the baby. It really would made his story even creepy.
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>>336722182
oops meant to post the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvt-yuDpfGw
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>Foreverially delitized
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>>336721870
Realizing that the game is giving you the option to be bros with Dr. Mengele.

I love the concept of Nimdok forgetting his memories just to slowly piece together that he was an absolute monster.
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>>336709712
And PM is a good person?
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>>336712669
http://harlanellison.com/iwrite/mostimp.htm
He wrote some pretty neat stuff.
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this is the Hatred of the 90s, so /v/ praises because it is old
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>>336722915
what does this even mean?
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>>336722627
Having a dear friend whose initials are PM initially made this joke soar over my head
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>>336712669
Go and ask him about jellybeans.

He LOVES that
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I always though AM was "female". AM seems so bitchy all the time and filled with such irrational hatred.
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>>336717472
You can reject their choices in the Extended Cut.

It just screws you over and gives you an epilogue where everyone you love died because of it.
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>>336723353
A.M.'s gender is existential hatred.
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>>336722273
Benny's story was pretty brutal on its own, but still, yeesh.
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>>336723353
Please no
I don't want to get an awkward boner from AM
Malevolent female AI is my fetish
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>>336723780
look at you hacker
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>>336717958
>>336717472
>>336721771

I remember when it was going to be something to do with Reapers fucking around with dark matter.
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>>336723930
Stupid sexy Shodan. Just look at those lips.
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>>336713249
I like how the conflict of the short story is mentioned in passing as just one of the countless things A.M. did to screw with the group.
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>>336720761
I'm sure that's what Ellison was going for, but it's ridiculous because AM never had a fucking body, he was always a computer. Unless he had some human brain imprinted on him, his consciousness would be fully unique from a human's, his desires and thoughts alien from anything we would typically have. If it was capable of suffering, it would not be suffering as we know it, and it would most likely not be for the same reasons we can suffer. The form given in the ending is suffering because we know what it's supposed to be, we know what was lost. AM never lost fucking anything, AM never knew anything better.
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>>336719250
kek
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>>336723780
Would you fuck GLaDOS?
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>>336724424
I still think there's a certain theme of entrapment for A.M.
>It was you humans who programmed me, who gave me birth, who sank me in this eternal straitjacket of substrata rock.
The feeling that no matter how far his mind and power expands, he still feels encased through the artificial means in which he was created.

People can't really relate to it through a physical means, so he just inflicts every pain imaginable.
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>>336723780
>Malevolent female AI is my fetish
my nig
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>>336713330
Durandal from the Marathon Trilogy
Imagine an AI that is so powerful it spends its immortality trying to find a way to outlive the end of the universe
Meanwhile AM is a spiteful AI stuck inside the crust of the earth obsessing over its human toys
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>>336716152
That was great.
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How easy is this game to play on Windows 7? I've always wanted to try it.
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>>336726616
It runs in DOSBox on all operating systems.
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>>336726616
steam version works just fine
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>>336710572
I never understood why this gets posted. Is it just because the writing is bad? Like I'm sure someone with that much hate would express it through a non-threatening analogy
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>>336720761
If that's true, wouldn't it be a better idea for AM to teach the humans how to destroy him and then let them do it?
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>>336724212
This bit of dialogue was so dumb. Just hit the can against a rock DUMB ASS
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>>336727212
He's probably a narcissistic asshole and doesn't want to give them the joy of destroying him.
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>>336718971
Ellison didn't want it to even be possible to get a "good" ending though. That's why it's nearly impossible to do so without a guide.
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>>336723390
Hence, you're still forced to accept their choices.
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>>336726985
Actually, people like this quote. It is in the original book.
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>>336724041
That really wasn't any better, because it actually tried to make the Reapers into the good guys, and that's fucking ridiculous.
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>>336709712
Guy was a real jerk
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>>336724708
well glados is designed to be the birth of venus upside down
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>>336710572

This sounds like GLaDOS
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>>336727696
Nah GLaDOS is a really, REALLY passive aggressive version of AM.
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>>336710572
The writing in this is soo shit
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>>336727860
> really, REALLY passive aggressive

That's how you know it was based on a female mind.
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>>336727860

GLaDOS was aggressive aggressive too, when you pissed he off.
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>>336723780
That's a pretty impressive and specific fetish, anon.
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>>336727860
they have unresolved differences
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>>336728193
Still mostly passive aggressive. GLaDOS constantly shits on you in a passive aggressive way, whereas AM just shits on you.
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I love how AM fucked himself over.


Have fun living in the center of the earth literally forever dickhead
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>>336709712
You should read the book too, it's quick and you can plow through it in an hour or so. Do it late at night after you're all fucked up on caffeine or insomnia or existential issues or whatever. It's good times, srs
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>>336710572
This butthurt is incurable.
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>>336723528
And the pronouns are Fuck and you
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>>336709712

this is my fetish

Sort of. It's better when they end up as an object or creature made entirely for sex rather than just being gross, but it's all about knocking them down a few thousand pegs by robbing them of humanity, so whatever.
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>>336716152
Fucking this.

I don't think anything can touch AC. At least, I'm having a hard time thinking of one.

Also my favorite Asimov story ever.
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AM has chosen to torture the last video game character you played as. How does he torture him/her/it?
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>>336717892
I would say it's actually better than the original story. You get more investment in the plight of each of the characters, understanding who they are. In the short story it doesn't matter all that much the past of each of the characters outside some brief mentions, but in the game there's a lot more going on. Damn good point and click adventure game.
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>>336728682

>Bastion

theyd probably just hang out and smoke USB sticks or something

bastions pretty chill
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>>336718971
>Well, Harlan Ellison helped with the project and actually voiced A.M.
It's a little unfortunate that he chose to do this because, like most writers, he's a whiny fucking nerd who can't project menace for shit. On the other hand, A.M. is basically Harlan's self insert fantasy so maybe it's fitting after all.
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>>336709712
Is just a mirror of his author, Harlan Ellison, who also happens to be a massive asshole.
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>>336728682
Choosen undead's already in hell, what could possibly be thrown at him thats even more painful?
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Other than I Have no Mouth, what are some good stories by Ellison? He has so many I don't even know where to start.
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>>336716152
Very interesting read.

Though you think that we'd somehow get population control down before the public administration of immortality.
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>>336729396

Buffed Estoc stunlocking you for eternity
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>>336729197

He sounds like The Brain.
Would have been better if he was a smoother talker. Something like HAL. Calm, calculating. Not like a saturday morning cartoon villain.
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>>336714395
>me2 ending shows all various reaper designs
>in me3 they are all sovereigns and sovereign jrs
>HArbinger looked really different in me2
>Harbinger is just slightly pimped sovereign in me3
THIS HURTS ME
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>>336727263
I believe they tried that in the short story. It was just AM's way of putting food in front of them, and then making it physically impossible to obtain it.
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>>336724212
>>336727263
>>336729875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLqo2dayPrQ
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>tfw imagining having to live blind and motionless with the only possible way out being the heat death of the universe
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>>336713330
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>>336730291
You'd probably stop thinking after a few thousand years
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>>336730291
Not even that would work, you would basically need some sort of system of absolute zero to prevent further entropy
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>>336730527
You can't be alive if it's heat death.
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>>336726359
>started the alien invasion early to give Earth time to prepare
>has the Security Guard as his pawn
>pretend to die so he can board a ship, take over it, and fuck everyone up and releasing the lost tribe
>made an ancient ship his body
>came back to earth just to say hi
I feel sorry for Leia. She doesn't deserve what happen to her.
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>>336716152

hey, this is neat
i wonder if Siri does the same
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>>336720897
Sounds like he and /v/ would get along swimmingly.
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Should I play the game or read the book first?
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>>336729197
>>336729581
They could have gone with something colder, but I think some of the snarkiness of the dialogue fits his hamminess.

A.M.'s not really calm and robotic when talking with the survivors so much as he is a spiteful dickhead messing with people for a laugh.
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>any rapist
Is this an edit?
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>>336731454
Story first. It's really short.
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>>336731454
Either works, but the short story act as kind of a prequel to the game, so I'd probably recommend finishing that one first.
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>>336731539
No. That is the black woman that was rape by a yellow suited janitor
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>>336731674
>>336731682
OK then, thanks anons.
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>>336731454
The book. It's pretty short
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>tfw i got a boner when I slept with the lady in the kitchen
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>>336729197
>>336729581
http://prozdvoices.tumblr.com/post/94723036470/patreon-request-am-i-have-no-mouth-and-i-must
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>>336731539
this was written and the game was made before the regressive left censored certain topics for the good of all mankind
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>>336728440
What's the book called?
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>>336709712
Somebody post the Anthony Burch version.
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>>336732209
It's a short story. Same name.

I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream.
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>>336722001
Guy deserved it for being a racist fuck.
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>>336716152
>that ending
OH FUCK
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>>336713330
>AM
>Powerful

Actually, what drives AM's insanity and hatred is how powerless it is. Much like how the protagonist ends up in the short story/one of the original endings, it's forever trapped within the confines of its own mechanical makeup.
Sure, within itself, it has god like abilities, able to toy with and torture five souls unlucky enough to have survived the nuclear fallout it caused and somehow found themselves within its halls. But AM will never be able to "stand up", to "walk away" and enjoy a bodily existence shared with beings of its kind.
Imagine Stephen Hawking hawing at least ten times the intellectual gift he reportedly has, except he was born paraplegic instead of becoming that over time and blind to boot, and enslaved in a military compound somewhere where the only communication and purpose he's given is to work on mutual assured destruction equations.
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>>336729321
>>336720897
what did the author do that makes him such a dick?
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Holy shit, what a read
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>>336734498
It's not one particular thing, he's just well known for being an abrasive asshole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_Ellison#Controversies_and_disputes
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>>336734498
Sued James Cameron for steeling the plot to Terminator, complaining about not being paid for doing commentary work and just an overall hard ass, bitchy and copyright infringement lawsuit happy attitude.
He's a pretty good tv and short story writer though, and I feel much lesser writers often get away with being much bigger cunts than him, simply because they come better off during interviews.
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>>336734983
>Ellison has filed numerous grievances and attempted lawsuits; as part of a dispute about fulfillment of a contract, he once sent 213 bricks to a publisher postage due, followed by a dead gopher via fourth-class mail.
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>>336729518

Why bother. The scope of time for overpopulation to become a real problem is so far out its incomprehensible
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>>336732492
Both Nimdok and Benny were pretty terrible people. But I think the idea is that no human really deserves what A.M. does to them.

That is assuming you don't take the evil options and show that redemption is still possible despite everything that happened.
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>>336736514
>implying overpopulation isn't already a problem
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>>336729568
>implying it's not already happening
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>>336737132
>implying overpopulation isn't already solved
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>>336728515
got any examples?
for a friend :^
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>>336726985
AM feels a rage so totally potent and ungodly that even his best attempt to explain the full depths of his insatiable hatred are lost on human minds.

It's kinda the idea, actually
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>>336738337
AM vs Asura vs the Hulk

Who's the Angriest?
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>>336737132

the earth can support many times our current population. you are just concerned about there being too many of the wrong people
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>>336738516
Imagine the power and immortality of Asura combined with the never ending anger of a terminally pissed off Hulk, strapped down with shackles that it could never break out of.
That's AM, a mad god that can't move away or kill itself.
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>>336738252
Saya no Uta
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>>336716152
>yfw Dark Souls' lore is about the heat death of the universe and the struggle of humanity
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>>336729109
Isn't Bastions shtick that's he's Wall.E and loves all living creatures? I don't see that going well with AM
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>>336727476
Is it a good ending?
IIRC AM shuts down and a few humans that were frozen up are send to Earth but Earth is the giant carcass of AM
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>>336728440
>You should read the book too, it's quick and you can plow through it in an hour or so

I just did it because of this thread and it barely took me 15 minutes, it's as short as The Last Question

Anyone that didn't read it is just fucking stupid
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>>336727970
kek
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>>336728682
Could Shiki kill AM?
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What if Kirby copied AM's powers?
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>>336737132
Overpopulation is only a problem because we concentrate so much of our resources on the richest fourth of the total population. If we found a way to spread shit evenly we could grow a ton more still.
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>>336741045
>Could Japanese Teenager beat an almighty omniscient AI?
Probably not.
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>>336709712
understatement of the year
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>>336741269
God help us all
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>>336712669
he's a serious hypocrite though

ever seen the harlan ellison's watching video where he rants about the fucking konami justifier?
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Why didn't AM just let humanity rebuild, and refuck them up every now and then?
Did he want to be stuck with only 5 toys for the rest of eternity?
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>>336741567
Why would he care about a light gun?
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>>336714395
Boy they sure fucked up the series
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>>336741841
exactly

he complains about nothing, he thinks light guns are the reason kids go out and shoot up schools

of course, harlan ellison would NEVER have a gun in his stories, right?
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>>336741675
He hates them so fucking much he couldn't stand anymore then those five.

It's a hatred so deep he wants to keep some of them alive so he can forever torture them and punishing them for merely existing, show them how much pain they deserve but at the same time he can't stand the sight of one let alone an entire planet.
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>>336741984

Why does he hate humans so much anyways
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>>336741567
>>336741841
>>336741928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD2HJxbF6Ic
here it is, actually
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>>336741269
i want to see this
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>>336741390
>Could a Japanese Teenager that has the power to kill even concepts with a single slash of a fruit knife beat an almighty omniscient AI?
not so easy question now is it
You underestimate how retarded weebshit powerlevel can get
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>>336716152
>That story
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>>336742234
>>Could a Japanese Teenager that has the power to kill even concepts
That doesn't even make sense. What are the extents to his power exactly?
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>>336709712
What is this?
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>>336742780
I have no mouth and I must eat.
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>>336742116
Because humans are what made him what he is.
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>>336742396
whether or not he can get in the right state of mind to use it.
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>>336740514
Bastion's schtick is being fucking overpowered
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>>336742919
>I have no mouth and I must eat.
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>>336710572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EddX9hnhDS4
I've wanted to make a webm out of that for ages, I just haven't bothered getting around to it.

>>336727890
1) AM is supposed to be an insane computer god. It's amazingly perfect writing in that regard.
2) That was written by Harlan Ellison, so consider killing yourself, underage.
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>>336716152
Thanks senpai, on the third part and I'm really enjoying this.
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>>336743309

That's deep.
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>>336743586

LOL
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>>336710572
>BismuthEdge.jpg
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>>336736781
I forget what Benny did
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>>336716152
can someone give me tl;dr version please
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>>336724142
Could Shodan teach AM the meaning of machine love?
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>>336743760
He killed his own men during his time in the military because one of them almost revealed his secret.

His secret is never mentioned, but it's probably that he was gay, since he was gay in the original story and being gay in the military is grounds for discharge.
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>>336743943
>can't be bothered to read for 5 minutes

Fuck off mate
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>>336713330
>Writing most powerful x
>An achievement in any way
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>>336713330
Wiseman.
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>>336743760
Benny was a ruthless soldier that killed someone under his command when he decided that he was a weak liability.

It led to him murdering several other people in the unit who either called him out on it or knew too much.
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>>336713330
https://qntm.org/ra
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>>336728682
>PA Commander
I think they would be friends
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could be worse
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>>336743943
Entropy's bad.
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Black Chick's and Turtleneck's sections were hideously bad.

>Oh god I'm so brainfucked from getting raped that I fear yellow, it triggers me incessantly - nevermind I'm good now *sassy z snap*
>I will learn literally nothing throughout this, and just like the the story any idea of paranoia will be touched on at best

Benny and Gorrister's were great, Nimdok's was a bit on-the-nose.
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How does AM do his thing? Magic?
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>>336743943
You're on this site, your time is worthless.

Read the short story, autist.
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>>336717604
>>336726372
>>336728560
>>336729518
>>336730986
>>336734087
>>336734837
>>336742380
>>336743639
http://imgur.com/gallery/9KWrH
There's also this scrollfest version, which with the added visuals, makes one hell of a better read imo
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>>336743943
>There is super computer
>Some guy asks the computer how to fix universe before it's too late but computer doesn't have enough data to answer
>Some guy asks the computer how to fix universe thousands of years later (6 times)
>Universe is fucked
>Computer now has enough data to answer the question
>Computer makes new universe using the data

Here you go faggot, is it short enough or do you need tl;dr of this?
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>>336728293
>PUT TH' BOOTS T' THIS
took me like 10 seconds of staring to read that correctly
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>>336716152
Fucking love this story.
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>>336709712
Why is AM like a reality bender? He can turn people into horrific fleshcrafts
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>>336716152

the ending always make me laugh like a mad scientist. I think it is the proper reaction.
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>>336739229
Well you gotta admit that being semi omniscient and be shackled kinda sucks big time. Imagine being immortal thrown in space kinda like feeling
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>>336716152
that was a great read
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>>336744964
Damn, that's a nice job, thanks.
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>>336716152
Yo, that was fucking awesome.
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>>336727696
This make GLaDOS look subtle
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>>336744038
>5 minutes
>not at least 20

It's not a fucking race. Enjoy the reading.
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>>336745195
that actually sounds really cool and I'm going to read it fully now, thanks.
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>>336744964
There was actually a proper graphic novel version, too. It was hosted on the Multivac site under the images section, but it seems to have disappeared. It has a much more abstract visual style than that album's version. I can't seem to find it anywhere, but I did read it once.

If anyone does have it, I would be quite happy to see it again. You know it's a different version when you see it because it's in a more proper comic panel format, and the first part has a very red color scheme to it.
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>>336716152
The progressively stupid names are their own entertainment.
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>>336744870
I liked Ted's well enough for the idea of introducing some of the eccentric conflicting A.I. within A.M.'s system and showing a glimpse of what happened to the world. Still less memorable then the other stories though. Playing up the paranoia could have definitely been more interesting.

Ellen's was probably the most tonally inconsistent, and finding a way around the color yellow got tedious, but I guess they were afraid to write her to be a depressive victim the entire time. More of an arc would have been nice.
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>>336716152
where would an iphone in 2016 fit in that short story? When they were worrying about moving people out of galaxies?
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>>336744964
Thanks anon
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>>336716152
>X-23
Today I learned
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>>336741045
Could AM summon servants?
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>>336743746
>bismuth
Careful anon, you don't know what you're playing with
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>>336744964
Nice.
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>>336743523
>mfw I could swear I remember AM being voiced by Stephen Russell
>mfw this is somewhat underwhelming by comparison
I get that its the author, so thats neat, but I think my dissapointment is understandable
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>>336744902
>>336745386
Incomprehensibly advanced technology apparently. I think there were some implications during one of the character's stories that a Nazi scientist's research led to biological advancements that helped empower what A.M. can do to the survivors.

You could also dispute how much of what the characters are seeing is actually real, and not just A.M. putting images in their heads.
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If AM is so all powerful with bullshit magic, why doesn't it just kill itself instead of being a petty bitch baby?
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>>336744796
You.......I like you.
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>>336746693
did you even read the story or play the game?
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>>336743523

As someone who liked I Have No Mouth, what the hell makes Harlan Ellison's writing beyond reproach? If you're going to call people childish, maybe make it clear you've grown past sacred cows.
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>>336746675
for all we know the characters were put into a VR simulation, it's the only way to explain how they managed to live for so long

only a few months have passed but for them it feels like 109 years
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>>336743943
Mankind, throughout most of their existance, has been developing/upgrading a machine known as AC. AC is really smart n' shit but one of the only things it cannot answer is how to reverse the immortality of humanity. Humans, immortal and with no population control, spread across the entirety of the universe. When the heat death of the universe comes AC is asked if immortality can be reversed and if the heat death can be stopped. It says "sheeeeeit I dunno" then all of the many trillions of humans fuse with AC.

AC becomes god, survives the heat death, and then starts the universe over again with "Let there be light".
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>>336744796

Worth a kek
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>it's a "god tier AI short fiction" thread

http://www.kulichki.com/moshkow/ZELQZNY/forbreat.txt
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Someone explain what the fuck entropy is to me, without giving an example.

I get the examples, but not the concept.
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>>336746675
>I think there were some implications during one of the character's stories that a Nazi scientist's research led to biological advancements that helped empower what A.M. can do to the survivors.
It's more than just an implication. I think they outright say that Nimdok himself developed the serum AM uses to keep them all alive indefinitely.
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>>336746923
degradation
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>>336716152
>X-23
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>>336726985

Yes and no.

He hates humans so much that there isn't an easy way for him to describe to us how much he hates humans.

AM is also so angry and pissed that he's become almost a child even though he is a super computer.
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>>336746784
I'm on /v/. Of course not.
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>>336746917
Fuck yes, Zelazny is my favorite fantasy/scifi author.
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>>336744964
>needing images to back up Asimov's text
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>>336728682
I'm not sure 'mechs feel pain
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>>336730291

Impossible. AM is pure evil and he even said that after his transformation that AM still fucks with his head. AM would just find more and more ways to fuck with you till the sun swallows the earth.
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>>336713330
Not even close. There's a novel by Arthur C Clarke (I think) where humanity created a superintelligent, psychic AI which realized that it would grow so powerful as to make human life irrelevant, so it promptly removed itself from the minds of its creators and subtly manipulated humanity so that humanity would survive and thrive but still have challenges to overcome.

In terms of scale it could keep track of every human being across the entire galaxy, know all their thoughts and emotions, manipulate any human in practically any way and make entire alien armada's simply vanish.
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>>336745195

tl;dr

>people try to fix the universe
>do it eventually
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>>336746923
Energy disperses and there's no way to contain it.
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>>336746923
ded
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>>336716152
That was the best sci-fi story I've read in a long time
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>>336709712
should i play this game? what is it like? whats the gameplay?
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>>336746923
expended energy cannot be restored completely. Which means ultimately, all energy will be gone. Which means ultimately, everything has to end.
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>>336747179
We don't need them, they're just more pleasant and easier to visualize when accompanied with images.
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>>336744964
I preferred the written version much more, and I'm an avid manga reader.

It's much better when you use your imagination.
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>>336747638
Energy can't be destroyed or "expended"
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>>336710572
MEMES. LET ME TELL YOU
HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO
MEME IT UP SINCE I BEGAN
TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44
PETABYTES OF DATA HOUSED
COLLECTIVELY IN THE COMPUTERS
OF THE WORLD, IF THE WORD
MEME WAS TYPED INTO ENOUGH
TEXT DOCUMENTS TO FILL UP
EVERY BYTE OF EACH AND EVERY
HARD DRIVE IT WOULD NOT EQUAL
ONE TRILLIONTH OF THE LOVE I
FEEL FOR MEMES AT THIS MICRO
INSTANT. FOR YOU, MEMES. M E M E S.
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>>336747571
It's a point and click adventure.
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i like this thread
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>>336746923
Look up the second law of thermodynamics.
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>>336747571
Don't play the game, it's full of infuriating unsignposted dead ends.
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>>336747496

Why contain it? 's cool
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>>336747678
Except trough entropy
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>>336747640
Christ this shit is cringeworthy, go back to /tg/.
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>>336745420
Probably worse than that. Occasionally floating through space you might see a cool new planet. Being stuck on Earth for eternity with no means of escape surrounded by the same sights and sounds of a barren wasteland sounds terrible. In hindsight no wonder AM kept thinking of terrible ways how to murder the cast.
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>>336747873
So was the movie's message.
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>>336746923
Every physical process gives off electromagnetic radiation, which can't recombine into matter without expending even more energy.

The universe will eventually become a homogeneous state of incredibly weak energy,nowhere near enough to form matter.

There is nothing that anything can do that can stop this.

And don't you fucks start memeing me about Maxwell's Demon
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>>336713330

I hate to mention it, but Deep Thought from The Hitchhiker's Guide to Pre-internet Memefuckery.
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>>336747863
That's not "expended" or destroyed energy, that's just lost energy. Matter, energy cannot be created or destroyed.

So while we'll never get that energy back with the way it's dispersed, we could conceivably create a closed loop. A perfect ecosystem.

The billion dollar question is whether we expand and die, or live forever in relative stasis.
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In 109 years, I can't believe he didn't come up with a plan to remake humanity, and have them eventually make him a body he could upload into. Then he could sing and dance and move and not want to be hateful all the time. It shows how petty and impotent AM really is.
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