Is it fair to say this game has failed? Will anything save it? Do we just go back to USF4 now or after EVO?
>>336703827
>capcom will never ditch SFV and do an update for USFIV that just removes Elena, Yun, and Evil Ryu
Feels bad. SFV is an incredibly stupid game that rewards people that make bad decisions with a gimmicky comeback mechanic that is usually just used as an extremely simple and powerful hitconfirm. Also why should I bother working on my neutral game when all of my pokes and anti-airs over time dont even match the damage of a single jump-in? The risk/reward of this game is completely skewed towards aggressive and ham play to the point where we might as well call it Ultimate Marvel vs Street Fighter V.
>>336705113
>SFV is an incredibly stupid game that rewards people that make bad decisions with a gimmicky comeback mechanic
But that's exactly what SF4 is and what SFV isn't.
>>336703827
Why? Both games only have 5 viable characters.
How about instead of bitching, someone makes a lobby and we play?
>>336705113
>with a gimmicky comeback mechanic
ebin
There's honestly nothing wrong with the game that couldn't be fixed in updates.
At this point it does seem a pretty big chunk of the community has lost interest, but it's by no means dead yet. Capcom still has a chance to get their shit together and finish releasing the game.
No? Vanilla installments of SF are always garbage, for the first time in the entire series they actually put out a decent vanilla version of SF.
>>336705515
>the community
The people who dropped out this quickly were never part of the community.
>>336705384
East coast lobby up
Pass is 4321. 3 rounds, 99 sec, FT2.
look for redblade
>>336705515
They should just save the SP content for a big re-release next year and add in some extra characters and touch up the graphics. That will pull the casuals back in. But miniscule patch updates month after month has limited impact on the bigger audience.
>>336705641
>tfw Yuropoor
>>336703827
>Is it fair to say this game has failed?
Nope.
>>336705536
Fucking this
>>336705617
The issue is now they may never be. The more players the better in terms of business which SHOULD equate to more cool shit for us. I mean even in terms of match making, more players means faster matches and more similarly skilled matches at that (give or take).
I really think they should have been totally honest about the development's situation and called this an early access until june.
>>336705536
But the genre doesn't tolerate that anymore. It worked 20 years ago. In this climate of ubiquitous amount of online games to play, it doesn't work.
>>336705483
Ultras were just a glorified super. V-trigger is a gimmicky character specific x-factor.
>>336706025
fucking kek, the sales are abyssmal, far lower than SFIV's in the same time period, the game is SO INCOMPLETE that it doesn't EVEN HAVE IT'S CASH SHOP BUILT IN YET, THEY ARE 2 PAID DLC CHARACTERS IN AT THIS POINT AND THEY HAVE NO WAY OF CHARGING FOR THEM SO THEY ARE FREE
>>336708270
Ultras are a free 40-50% combo given out at every round.
V Trigger is not guaranteed because it's tied directly to one of the only useful defensive mechanics in the game.
>>336703827
>less characters than the vanilla version of street fighter 4
>no arcade mode
>STILL no custom intros like street fighter 3
The feeling I get here is Capcom doesn't care & doesn't want to make video games anymore.
>>336709201
Vanilla SF4 had 16 characters.
>>336709042
unless you're playing a character with a meterless dp, in which case you almost never see v-reversals used.
>>336709531
My mistake. The entire game seems very rushed & devoid of love though. It's hard to put my fingers on.
>>336709550
>unless you're playing a character with a meterless dp, in which case you almost never see v-reversals used.This is very much NOT the case because one missed DP is a free 40-50% HP off your life bar without even needing to use Super thanks to Crush Counter. Unless we're talking about shit players then sure.V-Reversal also removes some stun gauge and the worst that happens if your V-Reversal was baited is you get thrown. It's absolutely a valid mechanic and is one of the actually useful defensive options. It also stops momentum and can be used while on offense by preventing the other person from getting something going
>>336709201
>no arcade mode
This is the dumbest fucking complaint you can point towards SFV when it comes with character story mode and survival mode. And stop playing against the CPU you fuck. It means nothing in fighting games.
>>336709201
>PICKLES
ruined. the whole thing is fucking RUINED.
It's a commercial failure. The dedicated players will keep a competitive scene for a few years. USF4 was already dead before V.
>Urien will probably be the last character
fug
>>336709531
The Japanese arcade release maybe. The home console version had 25.
>>336703827
Only Ingrid could save it.
>>336710119
The home console version also came out 7 months after the arcade version anon.
>>336705113
>SFV is an incredibly stupid game that rewards people that make bad decisions with a gimmicky comeback mechanic that is usually just used as an extremely simple and powerful hitconfirm.
The hilarious part is how people complained about THAT EXACT SAME THING when SF4 first came out.
Everything about the game is lazy.
I still can't believe the menu, health bars, voice overs, and logos are final. I always thought they were just placeholders.
not to mention they didn't even bother with a story mode
>>336703827
Balrog will get me playing again. I have 50 friends who are just dying to have a few goes at me but I won't play them because my main isn't released yet so they're putting the game off with me. Once Balrog comes out this weekend you can be sure that the community will be more active :)
>>336710867
That menu looks fine. The problem is the background stages. They look really bad in certain places.
>tourneyfags say the only thing that matters is vs
>complains when game is shit
>>336710750
You couldn't hit confirm into ultra in mose cases in SF4 without an FADC. V-Trigger can be used at any time to score free damage off of any hit. Even if you cancel into V-Trigger on block you can get a good amount of momentum.
This weekend?
>casual/ranked has the option to find players within your ping range
>battle lounge still doesn't have the option to find only players within your region
Holy fuck why are Capcom so retarded? I can't count how many fucking people I have to kick just to find a goddamn American.
>>336709845
Anon you make great points but you'll never change anyone's mind on a fighting game if they haven't even played it.
you know most of /v/ is shitters who jump on meme trains
I agree with you though. V is much more legit and honest than IV was. People who bitch about v-reversals just don't know how to use them.
>>336712159
Downright untrue.
Some characters are actually at neutral or negative if they activate their v-trigger on block.You can also catch many activations with your own v-reversal.
>>336714612
So many Dhalsim v-trigger nullified with v-reversals
>>336703827
>go back to USF4
Fuck no nigga. SFV is a step in the right direction away from that bullshit. Just because you causal fucks don't like it because you can't fiddle around with an extra mode for an extra week doesn't mean shit. Fuck off.
Ultras just sucked the fun out of SF4 for me. In 5 they at least need to be earned, in 4 every time I fight a Rufus or a Rose or Elena I know at some point I'm going to have to deal with that Ultra every single fucking round.
V-Triggers are much better desu
>>336715119
at least sf4 was fun to play and to watch
>>336715201
People have been saying that since super turbo.
>boobs of steel
capcom pls
>>336715315
After about 6 literations. People forget how despised Vanilla 4 was for the first year or so by a lot of the fgc
>>336715315
Yeah man elena was so fun to watch. Whoo! Go elena. Use healing again. It's not complete timer scam bullshit and it's totally cool and neat and exciting. WHOOOOO
Vortexes are so fun! What side will Akuma be on? Wheeeee!! Oh boy an option select that covers a grab a DP and acts as a trip guard. Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!
>>336715315
I find SFV more exciting to watch, actually. There's a lot of tension in the footsies game. In SFIV I admired the virtuosity of players' execution, but the mind game aspect seems richer in V.Except when Mika's involved.
>>336715841
And people have been saying THAT since parries were invented.
There are two separate audiences here, and capcom's failures are from trying to please both with one game.
>>336710867
>AlexLeder browses /v/
No surprise here. If you spent as much time browsing this shithole or the Steam forums, you wouldn't get clowned on by some casual faggot like myself.
>>336715841
OH BOY ITS SFV.
Blockstring into 50/50 oh boy.
what happens next!??
blockstring into 50/50 !!! woooow.
what now? blockstring into 50/50.
this is amazing!!!!!
safe v-trigger cancel!
holy shit its heating up now!!
blockstring into 50/50!!!!
they have no life left! what could possible close this round out now!!?
cr.lp takes the round!!!
>>336716540
Sad but true. Also i read this in James Chen's voice.
>>336716540
why do people who have no clue insist on posting
>>336716540
>50/50
It's like you don't know the terms you're using AND the game you're talking about, but feel free to continue to embarrass yourself further.
>>336716198
>parries
I'm not talking about 3s dude. We're talking IV and V. Don't bring in a game that isn't relevant to discussion. If anything at least 3s matches were generally fast much like SFV is.
Regardless, watching vortexes and stupid long combos with ultras at the end was fucking boring. Hard-to-blockables were fucking gay-ass bullshit they couldn't code out of the game and so they added delayed get-up.
Everything they did in that game felt like an ugly patch on an ugly wound that just made the game bulkier and uglier.
I recognize the contributions it made and how popular it was, but it was hell me to play/sit through from 2009-2015. Now it;'s dead. Dead and gone. And good riddance.
Now you can have your turn to go snivel in the corner for 6 years.
>>336716540
>ignoring everything that lead up to the blockstring->50/50
spot the casual
>>336709201
There hasn't been a single 3D fighting game with special intros other than different voice lines in MKX.
>>336716540
do you even know what a 50/50 is? You're like that dude from pricness bride that just blurts out "INCONTHEIVABLE".
>>336716540
>Bronze shitter: the post
I want to play, but the game just stopped working on my computer for some reason and wont even launch
Oh well
>>336717002
>not reading the post
>puts poster on the wrong side
samefag
>>336705641
is this still going on?
>>336715797
Thanks for reminding me of how everyone with a fireball had an unblockable.
>>336710867
but they did, it's already got more "story" than any other SF game?
>>336716912
>>336716982
>>336717025
>>336717135
>>336717143
the truth hurts doesn't it capcucks?
>>336717002
Complaining about hard to blockables and vortex while posting mika art get a fucking grip dude its so fucking fun sitting there for 5 seconds not doing shit after getting irish whipped so fun guessing after every hit at least in 4 you only guessed on a knockdown and even then if you guessed right you could actually play footsies.
>>336717025
>>ignoring everything that lead up to the blockstring->50/50
>spot the casual
You mean a crossup jump in that 70% of the cast cant deal with reliably shit nigga.
>>336717506
>people remind you that the post you carefully crafted is filled with nonsense
>"lol u mad bro?"
>>336717506
>Every games has shitters that will try to derail discussion with the tons of salt they have for being bad at the game.
>Cs:go has "RNG" posters
>SFV has "50/50 blockstrings" poster
>Overwatch is "Muh Bastion is OP" posters
Anyone who goes and talks out of their ass like this is just some butt blasted baddie pretending he has a right to speak, you don't.
>>336717691
>caring that much about the art I posted
>this is the power of autism
You are living proof propaganda works.
First of all, I just posted it to have a picture with my post and it was semi-related. Second, I saved that shit for R.Pika, not R. Mika. Don't get triggered so quick just because you choke and eat meaty standing HP's in the corner.
That's my not my fucking fault.
>>336717880
>>336717940
It's ok to be wrong capcucks, i know you have a lot invested in sleep fighter 5. shame its failing though. what are you going to do :'(((
The shitty netcode
Adding useless target combos
Lack of proximity normals
Every char has only two combos
8 frame buffer
Roster is bad, way too many people can't find a char they like or they are just picking the closest they can
Not being able to cancel of normals that you should be able to
Playing this game longer than an hour is a chore, a good example is poongko streaming nonstop practicing things like RSF, and grinding matches, now he gets bored way too easily
Vskill and crush counter are stupid and pointless mechanics, moving a special to that and there already is counter hits, no reason for it to exist
There is no reason for there not to be chip kills, I know casuals love it not being in the game but it creates fake hype with shitty comebacks and stupid situations. Being able to only chip kill with supers is racist against grapplers!
>>336718015
>Doesn't even address the posts.
Reported for trying to kill discussion.
>>336718015
>It's ok to be wrong
Glad you admit it then.
>>336718015
Woah dude ebin troll +1 4 u, have my reddit gold sir XDD
Other anon's told you off and you are probably still gonna go c-capcuks.
>>336717985
It doesn't matter why you saved it, Your obvious tone deafness complaining about things directly related to mika but go on keep lying to yourself.
>>336717834
>my shitty play put me in a bad situation this game sucks
here your reply
V system: Severely lacking in complexity and technicality. There's really no variation in what it can be used for. V-trigger is used as either a ghetto hit confirm to extend a combo (usually into some ridiculous 60-70% CA finisher that is extremely easy to execute) or to make a bad poke safe. V-skill is a glorified one button special... let's not fool ourselves it being any more than that. V-reversal is a neat idea but it's very limited in what you use it for.
Jab Fighter V: One argument against 4 was the usage of jabs into high damage combos. Now you have a game where wake-up jab is an extremely powerful option, jabs xx special/vtrigger xx CA pretty much occurs every match, and jabs are a more viable anti-air/prevents crossups better than antiair specials.
Characters: The characters are boring. They all play very similar. There's barely any variation in their gameplay. All of them are 'different', but the way Capcom has developed balance has simply resulted in a very homogenized cast who generally are aiming for the same thing: easy to land CA links.
Combo variation: There is none. Flat out. Every character plays the same way. Each character has 3-4 BnB combos and that's it. It's extremely repetitive, no player can make their character their own, and they all look the same. Whereas in 4, you could see massive differences between a player's character, ie. Poongko vs Dashio's Seth, Bonchan vs Ryan Hart's Sagat, Daigo vs Ghandi's Ryu.
>>336718129
Reported for declaring a report.
oh boy the copy pasta sperg is in the thread
>>336716912
>>336716982
>>336717025
>>336717135
>>336717143
>>336717880
>>336717940
>It's an 16ers think they know anything about fighting games episode.
Infiltration, the SFV god, has said that it relies too much on blockstring pressure into 50/50's.
Now go back to r/sf or kappa or whatever shithole you came from and let the grown ups discuss.
Gameplay: Overall, it's OK. I mean, it gets monumentally boring far quicker than 4 ever did. It has a decent base but it's not like creating a fighting game base is difficult. But come on, the highest level SF4 was leaps and bounds hyper than what we're currently seeing in SFV. Yea, yea, yea 4 had years to develop, blah blah blah. The truth is, regardless of whether you thought vanilla 4 was crap, the FADC system was already versatile - you could cancel into longer combos, you could cancel normals, you could use it to attack, you could use it to defend, you could use it to escape, and you could use it to build meter. But it also had a risk to it. Pros by the end were punishing unsafe DP FADC's (Ultra), great players were reading telegraphed focus backdashes and getting punished for it, etc. SFV is just... boring. It doesn't have enough mobility for professionals to truly spread their wings. It's limiting. To scrub tier bronze/silver players, it's the shit because it's easy to execute, simple to learn, and it rewards you for it. For highest level players and SPECTATORS, especially, the game doesn't bring any hype.
Graphics: This is personal but it looks like fucking Clay Fighter.
Look, I'll agree that 4 had an execution barrier but isn't that what made the game fun to watch at the highest level? Watching Daigo pull off E.Ryu combos was hype as fuck because he did it against Momochi. Or watching Gamerbee rip off Adon shit you've never seen before in your life. Or watching Bonchan beat characters that would usually steam roll Sagat with vortex setups.
Capcom needs to expand on the V-system. It has no versatility and every match is the same fucking thing. Doesn't anyone get bored of Karin hitting an easy to execute CA 60% health combo? How is that showing skill? At least the Ultra system had some decent scaling. Barely anyone used Supers because EX/Ultra was more effective but when people used Super, it was hype!
>>336718121
>cancel of normals
This isn't marvel
>>336718373
>Infiltration, the SFV god
>That feel when get less than 15 words into a post and already see an appeal to authority fallacy.
I'll bet you don't even play SFV and just saw a video of this somewhere so you act like you know anything.
>>336718373
>appeal to authority
It's okay to admit you can't get any wins in SFV.
>>336718535
>>336718605
I'm sure ya'll niggas know so much more, so when are we going to see anonymous shitposter win a major?
>>336718535
>>336718605
>>336718373
I didn't start in 16 nor do I go to those shit sites, try again semenguzzler.
>>336718737
>only a chef can judge food
Loving every laugh.
>>336718737
Viscant won a major
>>336717110
KoF14 has them
>>336718793
>pointing out another guy's fallacy is a fallacy
>let alone that fallacy specifically
You're getting kinda desperate now.
>>336718793
>Make claim
>Get called out for being retarded
>"STOP MOVING GOALPOSTS"
I didn't make any claim, so I can't move the goalposts, retard.
You not only made a claim, but relied on your retarded fallacy because you're a low IQ shitter.
>>336718242
>doesn't matter why, my impotent rage validates me
Okay whatever you derailing pig-fucker.
To all of those who loved SF4 and are disappointed with SFV:
What do you do? It hurts, doesn't it? I dumped 1000 hours into the Steam version alone, not counting when SF4 was on GFWL, and I knew immediately since Beta 2 that I was going to hate SFV.
The game is ridiculously shallow and missing a stupid amount of features. It's blatantly obvious that this game was released a solid two years before it was actually "done", but Capcom went full Jew and decided to say "Fuck it, we'll release an early access beta and call it the full game to fund the rest of the development."
As much as I love the Street Fighter series, this game is absolute trash and promotes the stupidest play.
A new Viscant vs LTG video was posted (all online, lame, don't bother) and it was just the same combos and jumping around like an idiot that everyone does online.
Where do I go? USF4's dead since SFV came out and everyone's too scared to go back, and SFV blows dick.
It just hurts, guys.
>>336718882
KoF isn't out yet, though it's nice to know.
>>336718960
>>336718983
Capdrones please this is embarrasing. Why i gotta school you every post.
>>336717110
Didn't TT2 and DOA5 have tag specific intros and winning animations?
>>336718983
Damn you mad. I hate to be wrong too.
SF6 when?
>>336719180
>Ad Hom.
>Didn't facilitate the discussion.
>Actively shitposting to derail the thread.
Enjoy that break, you need it.
>>336719332
7-8 years
>>336718849
Viscant is a real nigga who can actually argue with someone though. You don't review fleshlights under your real name unless you a REAL nigga.
>>336718837
Nigga if you got no taste(which is why you're playing sf 5) why would I trust you to judge shit?
SFV fucking sucks, the only fighting game I play these days is Xrd. I might get into Tekken 7 if it's good.
t. 09er
>>336719009
I hate USF4 with a passion but love SFV. I'm glad that shit game with shit characters and shit mechanics is dead and buried.
but what you're feeling is what I felt when 3S died. You'll find people who feel the same way as you do with USF4 but you're going to be in the minority. Find a small community for USF4 or organize one yourself. People will play, just not me.
>>336719360
ive reported you for being a mad bitch hahaha
Dead genre. The only thing keeping it alive are people willing to spend hundreds of hours and dollars.
>>336719450
Because it's you who has shit taste and anything actually good (like SFV) appears like shit to you.
You sound like you couldn't even break 1000PP in SFIV and got mad your big EVO breakthrough didn't happen with SFV. Accept that you're just shit, m8.
>>336716540
lmaoing at ur whole life sf4 is just do whatever you want cuz fadc is safe.
>>336719718
>>336705687
Didn't they already say they didn't want to do re-releases?
I mean, of course I don't trust them because it's fucking Capcom, but still.
>>336719969
Projecting has been debunked years ago. You're not just falling behind on vidya, you're also falling behind on basic psychology.
>Be silver
>Get ranked with super and ultra gold players nearly 100% of the time
>No fun at all but take my licks no point in getting salty
>Play casual match oh look another ultra gold
>Game crashes on the VS screen and it disconnects me from the server with a [10007] error
>Log back in
>"your last match did not finish properly you will be unable to play for another 120 min"
Fuck this shitty game, seriously.
This is the last fucking straw the game is a shitty fucking broken mess and im done. Uninstalled that pile of shit and never looking back.
>>336719938
Or maybe he's right because SFV is straight trash.
>>336717110
Tekken
Bloody Roar
DoA
SoulCalibur
>>336719009
I liked SF4 but SFV is much better.
But a fuckton of hours into both games already.
>>336719938
>fadc is safe
lol nope
The only things I miss from USF4 are Makoto and Hugo. Being able to do meaties without having to worry about a half-life damage super coming out every fucking round is enough t make SFV already better than USF4.
>>336720148
Happened to me as well, dude. They said they could differentiate between legit disconnects and rage quitters. Guess they can't.
I love this game when I can actually play it, but shit like this makes it really hard to not just shitpost it to hell and back.
>>336719009
I don't know man. With USFIV dead it looks like footsie based/traditional fighters are gone for good. USFIV was definitely the best fighting game I have ever played and I've sunken nearly 1500 hours in it since the vanilla launch. All the other fighters around that are alive are based around having really long combo systems and setplay. I kinda just stopped playing fighters now since the glory USFIV is over.
>>336709967
You've probably never had good pickles brah.
>>336720750
>complains about setplay while praising USF4
You have got to be fucking kidding me right now
>>336715201
You can literally see the plastic surgery scars, disgusting
>>336719983
They didn't want DLC characters to be new release. Basically if you buy SFV, you can get the whole game. A re-release wouldn't really change that.
>>336720532
So you can pretty much ultra on reaction whenever you block a srk?
Wouldn't not fadc'ing it make your ultra whiff since he'd be airborne?
>>336710475
And in 7 months capcom still won't even be close to the same number of characters in sf5.
>>336720532
>needs one of the fastest Ultras in the game to get punished
Sounds pretty safe to me.
What else, are you going to use Chun's U1 next? lol
>>336720875
>SFV is too setplay heavy, I'm going back to Guilty Gear
thats the type of shit you read on /v/
>>336720964
If you cant react to a blocked SRK you probably have brain damage
>>336720750
>being this casual
Is SF4 the only fighting game you've ever played
>>336720930
I fucking bet you they will sell a new season pass every fucking year theres no way they're going to actually pass on that ez money.
>>336721051
And? You can't even play a single one of them competently.
>>336721065
>Cody U1
>One of the fastest in the game
LOL
Evens play Overwatch
Odds play SFV
How do I fight Guile and Bison as Ryu?
>>336721186
Of course they will. It's really not that scummy compared to the shit they pulled with SF4.
>>336720532
That was only punishable in Ultra, like literally the last year of the game's life
>>336721261
Hit them once and link it into a large damage combo, you gorilla.
>>336721186
As long as they keep the current FM structure going I see no problem with this. By the time the second set of characters is announced it'll be easy as hell to have enough FM to buy them on release anyway.
>>336721291
Right its just the same shit in a different package so how is it not as scummy?
>>336721356
see >>336720080
You suck, my man.
>>336721407
what combos after the overhead
>>336721083
You can react to mixups in GG, there's very few true 50/50s
In SF5 you might as well flip a coin
>you don't know anything
>no, you don't know anything
>on the contrary, you don't know anything
>well played, but you are the one who knows nothing
Fuck you guys
>>336721497
No matter how much you wish projecting was actually debunked It ain't my man.
>>336721535
Nothing
>>336721535
Nothing, but overheads have never been combo starters so I don't know what you're expecting.
>>336721597
Nah niggah the only hard to block shit in the entire game is Mika's bullshit and the occasional Nash spaz out with V Trigger; stop being shit.
>>336718474
>less options is good!
>canceling is too hard so fuck that shit!
>>336721065
>one of the fastest Ultras in the game
Is /v/ really this bad at SF or is this bait?
Tell me its bait.....
>>336705617
Go fuck yourself shill.
>>336719505
>is what I felt when 3S died
I don't think I've ever met a person who loved 3S and also liked SF4. They all abhor it.
>>336720750
>>336720875
SF4 setplay was pretty easy to block, or most of the cast had some sort of reversal to get out. I've never really been 50/50 vortex'd both rounds like people say. Maybe once in every 50 games? 100?
>>336721672
That's okay, anon. Just plug your ears. Denial is a protection mechanism after all.
It doesn't protect you from being wrong, however.
>>336721180
Right? The moment I see someone say SFIV and good footsies in the same sentence I just start laughing uncontrollably.
>>336721850
The setplay in AE 2012 was so fucking strong they implemented an entire game mechanic to try and reduce it and it barely even worked.
>>336721751
Well to be fair Chun can combo off her instant overhead, but only on counterhit so that doesn't really count.
>>336720891
ayy lmao
>>336721850
Because 3s felt fluid as fuck and was super fast.
4 felt like slow clunky garbage.
Some people like slow clunky garbage.
>>336721597
Thats the type of retard who posts on /v/
>>336722048
I played SF4 then went to 3S, and 3S is fun but lacks something, I just don't know what it is. Maybe I don't know enough about the game to really make it my own yet, but somehow it gets boring really quickly. That and jesus christ the cast is so awful.
>>336721991
Yeah, I remember, I play Abel. Shit sucked without a no-meter SRK or something to deal with it. But I dealt with it.
USF4 was definitely the best iteration of the game, I think. Only thing I'd get annoyed by is Blanka and stupid easy red focus -> ultra combos.
>>336721920
>there was no footsies in sf4!
I bet all those evo and tourney winners were because of mindless rushdown and gimmicks.
But in SFV it's all mindless rushdown and gimmicks. Nobody should like SFV at all. Not even the dickriding casuals that play this shit. They also need to stop talking about sf4 and previous games the shit they say is just retarded
>>336722048
>Because 3s felt fluid as fuck
In what universe? The animation and movement in SFIV and beyond is so much smoother, it's not even a competition.
>>336721597
>What is reading your opponent
The only reason people defend SFV so hard is because there's so many newfags trying to get into the genre with the newest SF installment. They have no prior knowledge of fighting games so they can't recognize it's faults and also they're desperate to have their first fighting game purchase validated.
If you defend SFV from criticism and you haven't seriously played any other fighting games you need to stop.
>>336722381
>so many newfags trying to get into the genre with the newest SF installment.
how can this be true when the only people who bought SFV were people who already owned SF4? It did a horrible job at getting new people into the scene, because LOL NO MODE EXPLICITLY NAMED ARCADE MODE NO BUY
So what's the reaction to Guile?
Is he anti RTSD?
>>336722381
Real mother fucking talk
>>336722281
Even with the bullshit I still think 2012 was the best, most of the shit Ultra piled on felt janky as fuck, shit like Elena in general and Rolento's U2 doing half your goddamn life for no fucking reason.
>>336722601
He does do a decent job at keeping people out, but his normals are kinda slow.
>>336722281
Welcome to why most people didn't like SF3. The cast.
Luckily for me, I loved the cast. Makoto is fucking awesome. Alex is good. Oro is good. Dudley is amazing.
Then you get fucking weirdos like Q and 12 and Necro. (Though Q turned out to be really fun).
Also that "missing" feeling is just weightless. You're not burdened with thinking about 101 stupid techniques and potential option selects your opponent can do to you on wake up. It's very simple and thusly frees your mind to focus on the attack/block/parry/throw mindgame.
It's funny because people that go to 3s from newer games complain that it's too simple or lacks something. The problem is that they are incapable of producing interesting fights themselves so they rely on garbage like Ultras to get a flashy result with less effort. 3s is a game that is as hype as you make it because you're into it and you've got your flow. If you lack the ability to pick up on the rhythm of the game because you're used to something else, then of course it will feel empty.
>>336722293
>I bet all those evo and tourney winners were because of mindless rushdown and gimmicks.
Let's see:
>Louffy took EVO because of a significant buff for his character that caught most players by surprise.
>Infiltration's early Akuma that won him EVO relied heavily on vortex situations.
>Xian's mastery of a gimmick-laden character made him EVO champ.
>Momochi plays one of THE rushdown characters in the game and won EVO.
There goes your theory.
>>336722601
His anti-air and footsie game is mediocre outside of booms and his only major damage comes from vtrigger combo's but the nigga needs v-reversal to get people off him so you get one of those maybe 1 in 10 matches unless your playing absolute shitters.
>>336722381
Why are so many oldschool pros coming back for 5. Why are KoF players and shit coming over for 5. Why did so many people that quit when FADC fighter was popular come back?
No Decapre no buy
>>336722381
I've played fighting games since I was a kid (you weren't even born back then) and I love SFV.
>>336722990
Braindead character for casuals that get clowned on regardless.
Glad the cunt is gone.
>>336722381
>tfw this post is actually true in my case
I want another fucking Vampire game already. I know neo Capcom will fuck it up but they should at least try.
>>336722381
>They have no prior knowledge of fighting games
>nuki doesn't have any prior knowledge
You know what Nuki and Daigo thought about SF4 when they first played it? They literally said it was a boring fucking game and garbage. Most 3S players thought that and most ST players thought that. Now they have come back and actually enjoy SFV.
>>336722048
SF3 is not fast for a fighter. While 4 is a deeper more complex game.
>>336723151
>>336722603
>same one-liner post
>IP count doesn't go up
>>336722641
Elena and Rolento were annoying as hell to me for about a month, then I learned that Abel is one of Elena's only counters, and that every Rolento player is absolute trash.
Seriously, if you ever play against a Rolento as Abel, Tornado Throw -> forward dash -> lk Marsailles Roll -> lk Wheel kick. Then just keep spamming LK Wheel Kick until they block, then next time, keep going for command grabs.
I love it when people get pushed out of their comfort zone of mashing a seemingly-unbeatable reversal to escape. That's why I playMikain SFV.
>>336722828
The only thing hype about 3s for me is parrying and super confirms. Everything else is barebones and, because of it, pretty boring.
But 3S gave us Dudley so it gets a pass.
>>336722828
>attack/block/parry/throw
>mindgame
>>336723016
what year were you born?
>>336708802
>free DLC is bad
What?
>>336721850
3s fanboys like nothing but 3s.
Game fucked with their head really hard.
>>336722381
Dat true scotsman though!
I love V, and am a fan of UMvC3, MvC2, P4AU, Alpha 2, GG Accent Core, 3s, and I'll even throw Smash in there. I play all kinds of games.
You sound like a newbie trying to sound like an oldbie. It's almost like "Hello fellow kids!"
>>336722985
The only OG's doing well are people like valle who was guess what good at 4 too most of the others drown in pools or don't break top 16 except at weeklies and KoF players were playing 4 too dude must be nice having early onset Alzheimer's so you can talk out your ass.
>>336723294
>multiple people in the thread
>must be samefag!
still don't understand why people care if it's the same person or not, not like it's against the rules to reply more than once in a thread with the same view in the first place
>>336722985
SF4 was really fucking hard and really technical.
SFV literally will do your CA link for you.
>>336723139
500PP shitter detected
>>336723294
>55 posters
>these two must be the same person!
You are stupid. Pathetic and stupid.
>>336719450
Viscant did post here though
5 is ass now but will be good in 2-3 years
>>336723518
>>336723582
Now post the original. :^)
I just want offline single player modes: vs cpu, and a simple arcade mode with random character fights. I'm not even talking about story art or anything. I just want to have some nice casual fun with a game series I've basically grown up with.
Why is this so hard for Capcom? Would it have really taken that long? A vs cpu option is already in the game in the broken/busted little character stuff that is 6 fights. What was the point of that? Why not just do the most basic stuff first?
You know why most 50/50s in SFV. happen? Because you got AA'd/A2A'd and someone gets a dash under situation.
STOP FUCKING JUMPING. Play on the ground. But that's too hard for you crossup setplay SF4 chucklefucks to understand innit?
>>336723289
Look I know because you dickride Jwong's campy ass Chun that you think 3s is slow. But look at some fucking Jap matches and tell me how slow it is. Damage was super fucking high in that game compared to IV.
>>336723553
Yeah, and he's using Decapre lol
I fucked so many of you faggots. Each of you plays exactly the same.
>>336723609
>Viscant did post here though
Viscant isn't exactly anonymous shitposter in status though.
>>336705617
I decided to drop it for good today.
Game's not fun, going back to Ultra and dear god, I forgot that Street Fighter is meant to have an in depth neutral game.
After playing 3 months of V my footsies are so fucking bad, I keep jumping and getting in someones face and just pressing close medium buttons.
>>336722887
imma let you finish but solid play always win, those are all good players with great fundamentals.
>>336718814
what a newfag
>>336723814
He was at one point though.
If Viscant can do it, anyone can. I'll see you all at EVO. ;)
May the best anon win!
>>336703827
nothing but a relaunch will save this pile of shit game (relaunch with cinematic story mode and at keast 10 new characters for free)
>>336710419
Fuck off, waifufag.
>>336721597
>You can react to mixups in GG
It's always funny when you can tell which posters come from /v/ and which come from srk.Both sides have idiots.
>>336719198
Only one I remember is if you have Jin and DJ on a team sometimes his win animation has him transform into DJ and only Jin is in the intro.
>>336723907
Yeah not when 4chan was around dude's been playing fighting games pre 2003.
I loved SFIV when playing for casual fun. The second you step into mid/high ranked, you're fucked against vortex even with delayed wakeup. Forcing you to pick certain characters just to compete against a pool of overpowered characters was god damn frustrating.
SFV is probably the best base SF since SFII. Not saying it's better, but the character selection is pretty great, the mechanics are sound, and the potential for growth is certainly there. Complaining about Story mode is fine if you want that kind of content from a fighter, but if you just want to play against others, it's pretty ideal.
>>336723984
Once you get used to the blockstrings it's not that hard
>see this thread and go to start a lobby
>PSN is undergoing maintenence.
fuck
>>336703827
Nigga what? It doesn't have the bells and whistles necessary for more casual players but for people going to tournaments the game is perfectly fine. No, they aren't going back to SF4. Capcom is the one that lost out on SFV for not having anything for anyone besides tournament players.
Look at the trailer announcing this game. It was full of people at fighting game events losing their shit. How did people not see this coming? And if you answer "well I expected it to have basic single player shit", know that this is capcom, so again, fuck did you expect?
>>336724176
>people actually pay for this
>>336724176
>PSN is undergoing maintenence
There go my Overwatch plans
>>336724106
ah right fair enough
>>336723848
what a retard
Sorry that statement was wrong
>>336723984
You really can't react to a lot of mixups in gg. There was a huge discussion about reaction times and especially to millia's bullshit
http://www.teyah.net/milliablocker.html
There was even a srk article about reactions, peeps need to read dat shit
>fight a tripfag in battle lounge
>expect some silver shitter ken
>Ultra Gold
>Laura
>leave lobby
Fuck that
>>336724121
There were very few setups that covered both regular wakeup and delayed and you basically had to guess or make a read on which delayed wakeup actually did make a difference.
>>336724437
DING DING
HE TOOK THAT ROUND
>>336710750
They said the same thing about super turbo iirc when they added the super meter
>>336724437
Was it Internet? Played against him, and got raped. He was at EVO last year, too.
Fucking Nash man, yeah we get it Capcom, he has no wake up reversal, that doesn't mean you have to make him OP as hell every where else holy shit
Just make his ex Flash Kick invincible on the first frame and then nerf the shit out of him, please
Let's say we're playing ST. Blanka vs. Vega, both characters have charged meter. Blanka has a small lead, about 10%. There are about 30 seconds left in the match. Let's say in this situation, Blanka is walking forward and Vega reacts to that with jab roll. Blanka blocks and this pushes him about 3/4 screen from the corner. Vega does low jab xx KKK. If Blanka jumps forward or walks forward I do super and he's about 80/20 going to eat it and most of the 20 he's going to eat claw swipe. If he hops back, I do super to the far wall to break his charge and he's about 85/15 to eat the super and again most of the 15 he's going to eat claw swipe. If you do ball, I have a charge built up and will flip kick combo you. If he sits still, I can slide and push him back towards the corner in which case I'm going to corner guard him and he really has little shot at the match from this position since all my throw ticks are now in play and his reversal (blanka ball) becomes unsafe.
Now, I wrote this scenario carefully. There is a very critical mistake Blanka made in this scenario. Do you see what it was? What could he have done in this situation to avoid a very very bad position? Failing that and this played out the way it did anyways, what is your move?
>>336709042
They scale so hard that any time you actually land one it's only doing like 30 % damage.
>>336724437
You fucking quitter. You're no better than ragequit fags.
>>336724652
>finally work Nash to the corner as Gief
>teleports behind u
One of the few situations/matchups in this game I will call legitimate bullshit on, fuck.
>>336723804
Its back to block, you should try it sometime, you might get past 500pp :^)
>>336724760
Not even close. And playing against a better player that uses a char that mixups isn't a fun time. Also not going to learn much against those type of matchups either
>>336724691
Blanka walked forward instead of sitting on his lead.
>>336719009
Pray for KOF.
>>336724691
He played fighting games instead of any other genre.
>>336724282
>Playing FPS on console
>>336724920
You learn to counter it, stupid. That's like, the basis of ALL fighting games. If you kept on fighting people the same level or lower as you, you wouldn't be able to gauge your skills against a pro. Man up and get your shit kicked in for once...
>>336719009
Maybe try a different fighting game for once in your life
Fucking capcucks
>>336724815
Gief, has a hard time against everyone, anon.. Let's pray for greenhand.
>>336724691
Don't walk forward like an idiot in that scenario where you have a clear lead
>>336724635
Yup. Didn't even bother playing. I hate Laura players. Most Overpowered bitch in the game by FAR
>>336724691
>ST
The mistake was not playing a better game
So why does Ryu's parry give a literal grain of v-trigger while Nash's absorb shits out 3rd of a bar?
>>336724691
He played Blanka.
He should have picked another character.
>>336725378
Ryu's V-Skill is more powerful.
>>336719009
>USF4's dead since SFV came out
People still play depending on the time online. You wont get matches all the time like before though. The other day I started a lobby and got a few matches in so people are still looking.
>>336725535
Alright then, what about Bison's?
It's objectively stronger when it comes to projectiles.
>>336725378
Because lmao
Why does Alex's V skill build no trigger unless you land a CC, a monumentally hard task?
>>336725176
I have, but thanks for assuming. I've played almost every MK, MvC3, Dead or Alive, Tekken, Soul Calibur, and other smaller games at a competent level. Only problem is nobody plays those games and a ton of them aren't on PC.
>>336722381
I dont understand what these peoples beef with sfv is gameplay wise? Is it the crush counters? The roster? I keep reading this 50/50 from blockstring stuff, what does that even mean? All I know is theres no fadc, vortex, or crazy fireball game like in 4 so im happy.
>>336719009
I find matches faster in USF4 than i do in SFV
>>336724950
Oh shit, is this in Tokyo by any chance? I'm going this summer and I wanna fill my time up with everything I can find.
>>336725834
Everyone builds trigger from CC.
I thought Hard hit built trigger.
And his v skill doesn't build any for the same reason why Laura's doesn't, or Rashid's, they don't hit anything.
>>336725929
>I keep reading this 50/50 from blockstring stuff,
I don't even get why this is a complaint, these are things present in all fighting games to various degrees
>>336724720
>They scale so hard that any time you actually land one it's only doing like 30 % damage.
Optimize your combos and it's at least 35%-40%
Unless you're doing something like Fei Long's
