all of these god tier games came out in fall/winter of 2001 for PS2.
What games have come out for PS4 in the past 3 YEARS? Bloodborne?
what happened to video games? their used to be way more good games.
>>336699217
Most of the games on that list are multiplats
>>336699357
Yeah. What about it?
>>336699357
they were originally ps2 exclusives
but breaking news, most games from third parties usually go multiplatform
>they're not even exclusive
>b-b-b-but it didn't happen until later
Yeah nice defense autist
No exclusives
>God tier
There's a couple of turkeys there mate.
The answer to your question is that the standard of what the average consumer expects for the price of a game has greatly increased, adding to development time and the size of the budget putting smaller developers off making """real""" games and instead concentrating on the casual market, ie; phone games.
>>336699217
Video games take longer to make now due to grafix.
Its the same reason why the Wii was pumping out shovelware left and right.
>>336699217
>A GTA game, a Final Fantasy game, and Metal Gear Solid game. Also a Naughty Dog game.
Yeah, none of those came out on PS4 so far or are coming out in the near future.
>ITT: not exclusive so its shit
average age of posters ~17
>>336699217
>AC4
Legitimately great
>BG:DA
Mediocre at best
>DMC
Pretty decent, but not anywhere close to 'god tier'
>FFX
Quite literally the worst modern mainline FF game. A 4/10 if I'm feeling generous.
>GT3
A damn good game
>GTA3
I have literally never understood this game's popularity, it was boring then and it's boring (and ugly) now
>Ico
Pretty engrossing puzzle/adventure game, I'd hesitate to call it 'god tier' though
>Jak & Daxter
Great for its time, but I feel its age shows these days.
>MGS2
Awful writing aside, it had some fucking shockingly incredible attention to detail and was a very good stealth game mechanically. Boss fights were pretty decent too, mostly.
>Silent Hill 2
Great game, though the aged visuals kinda hurt the immersive factor these days.
I'd say the PS4 stacks up just fine against that list with Bloodborne, Alienation, Drive Club, Disgaea 5, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted 4. Tearaway and Gravity Rush put it well above it, too, so long as you ain't got a Vita.
>>336699217
it takes much longer to develop games now you dumb nigger. also daily reminder the ps2 wasnt even marketed as a gaming system at launch but a fucking dvd player
>>336701374
>>GTA3
>I have literally never understood this game's popularity, it was boring then and it's boring (and ugly) now
>>336701374
>I'd say the PS4 stacks up just fine against that list with Bloodborne, Alienation, Drive Club, Disgaea 5, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted 4.
I played Bloodborne on PS3, you shouldn't count it for PS4. Alienation is what, an indie game, Driveclub was fucking broken, Disgaea is Disgaea, Ratchet has less content than the original and Uncharted 4 is a movie game.
>tfw the days of great consoles like the ps2 are gone
>tfw vidya is ded
>>336701580
>I played Bloodborne on PS3
try harder next time
>>336699217
switch ffx with twisted metal black and then the list is perfect
>>336701478
I'm really not baiting.
I found it boring as fuck due to the awful controls and mechanics, I dropped it and went back to THPS3 and Halo really quickly.
Tried to get back into it a few years later and quit 2/3rds through because it is just genuinely trash.
>>336701631
>ps2
>great console
the delusion is real
>>336701806
the games made it great and thats all that matters
>>336701631
>vidya is ded
But we're in a new golden age, anon.
>>336701878
except the hardware was shit
>The PS2 will never be matched by another console
>>336701632
It was released as Demon's Souls first. Then Dark Souls. Then Dark Souls 2.
Compare the difference between MGS1 and MGS2 - now MGS2 was next-gen. Bloodborne looks and plays like Demon's Souls and runs at the same framerate or worse.
>>336699217
>Persona 5
>Overwatch
>FFXV
>No Man's Sky
>Mirror's Edge Catalyst
>Star Ocean
>Deus Ex
>Mafia III
>Dishonored 2
This is gonna be a great year.
>>336701913
But the games were great. Now we have shit hardware and shit games.
>>336701975
At least half of those games are going to be shit, and the ones that aren't will mostly be on PC where they'll run at a framerate above 25.
>>336702047
it doesnt matter if the games are good if the hardware was shit
>>336701975
Shit anon might as well go all out if you're gonna make a list
Overwatch
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
Dishonored 2
Uncharted 4
Horizon: Zero Dawn
No Man's Sky
WiLD
Tyranny
Divinity: Original Sin 2
Persona 5
NieR: Automata
Final Fantasy XV
Nioh
Gravity Rush 2
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
Trails in the Sky Third Chapter
Tekken 7
Ace Combat 7
Trails of Cold Steel 2
Ys VIII
Tokyo Xanadu
Steins;Gate 0
Zero Time Dilemma
Danganronpa V3
Shiren the Wanderer 5+
Stranger of Sword City
Project Diva X
Yooka Laylee
Va-11 Hall-a
Cuphead
And so far the year has already been great:
>Ratchet and Clank
>Hyper Light Drifter
>Trails of Cold Steel
>XCOM 2
>The Witness
>Atelier Escha and Logy Plus
>Alienation
>The Banner Saga 2
>Stardew Valley
>Street Fighter V
>>336702164
>b-but games were better when i was a kid!!!!11
>>336702223
They were. I play the "best games of the year" these days and they're all shit. I emulate the best games of the year that I missed in past years and they are great.
>>336702284
Okay kiddo.
>>336699357
even if you count the games which went multiplatform its still more than the PS4 has right now
>>336702284
and those games would be?
>>336702284
>WOW I WAS TOTALLY BORN IN THE WRONG GENERATION. Everything back then was sooooooooooo much better wow.
Fuck off retard.
>>336702107
>>336702362
Not really
>>336699217
Until Dawn
Infamous Second Son
Ratchet and Clank
Oneechanbara Z2
Killzone Shadow Fall
Bloodborne
There's some good ones coming up soon, too. I know you're not old enough to remember this, but there was a lot of time in the PS2's life cycle where there was fucking nothing to play but the games in that image and everything else was shovelware shit. The really good PS2 games didn't come out until, surprise, 3-4 years into it's life. The problem is that the actual next gen hasn't started yet, developers are still just making PS3 games and porting them to PS4. I'd say FFXV will be the first actual next gen game, just because it's been made from the ground up for PS4 after it was restarted.
>>336702436
yeah thats a funny may may image whats your point faggot?
>>336699217
Less than half of those games are good.
>>336699357
Not really
>Ace Combat 4 - Exclusive
>Dark Alliance - Who gives a shit?
>Devil May Cry - Exclusive
>Final Fantasy X - Exclusive
>Gran Turismo 3 - Exclusive
>GTA 3 - Originally an exclusive, got PC and Xbox ports a year later.
>Ico - Exclusive
>Jak and Daxter - Exclusive
>Metal Gear Solid 2 - Originally an exclusive, got (shitty) PC and Xbox ports a year later
>Silent Hill 2 - Originally an exclusive, got Xbox and PC ports later.
>>336701975
besides the JRPGs all of those games are multiplat
PS2 was shit
>>336702464
only 2 worthwhile exclusives on the PS4 right now though senpai
>>336702502
Are you really this autistic?
>MUH COMPONENTS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN IF THE GAME IS FUN OR NOT
Holy shit, PCkids are pathetic.
>>336702556
>That good year or so when the PS2 was dead in the water and the Dreamcast had all the games
Nostalgia, man.
>>336702556
I didn't have any of those problems.
>>336702223
Yes and no.
Some genres just aren't popular aymore, like old school shooters and RTS. But I can't really complain since theres lots of shit to play nowadays an old stuff is (mostly) still there.
>>336701478
The main draw was that it was open world
>>336702632
im not even into pc gaming faggot the ps2 had shit tier hardware and most games looked like shit on the ps2. the xbox and even the fucking gamecube ran games better. it didnt help that the fucking consoles had disc reading errors at launch
>>336702404
>MMMMMM I LOVE EATING SHIT GIVE ME MORE CALL OF DUTY AND SOFTBAN SOULS 3
will the ps4 become the new ps2?
>>336702625
>Disgaea 5
>Until Dawn
>Alienation
>Bloodborne
>Drive Club
Plus I don't have a Vita, so for me personally I've also got Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth, Gravity Rush, and Tearaway Unfolded.Drive Club was shit at launch but Evolution supported the fuck out of it and it's legitimately a solid 8/10 game right now.
>>336701896
I played a lot of SSX but I would still say it was ok at most. Not a complete fuck up, despite EA pressure. It was a fun Trackmania with snowboards for a while but now it's just totally barren since the online is dead
>>336702715
>tfw even then the ps2 sold like hot shit while the dreamcast sold like shit
>>336701580
>Ratchet has less content than the original
i mean i guess, but it's not a direct remake and it's not sold at full price.
its still a legitimate goty contender
>>336702950
>Disgaea 5
okay
>Until Dawn
was talking about games not movies
>Alienation
literally who?
>Bloodborne
okay
>Drive Club
lmao
>>336703024
To each their own, I played that thing obsessively for a good long while and had a great time with it.
I'd probably have played it for even longer, if they hadn't cut local multiplayer;_;
>>336703118
>"it's a movie, not a game" meme
Stopped reading there tbqh
>>336701962
Saying Bloodborne plays like Demon's Souls is like saying Street fighter plays like MvC.
>>336702896
softban souls 3. Are you trying to force a new meme? It doesn't even make sense.
>>336699217
>Final Fantasy X
I get that one may have nostalgic appeal for it or they want to have the original, but FFX/X-2 HD is on the PS4 as well and even lets you select the original soundtrack, unlike the PS3 version. Seems kind of like a cheap move to nostalgia cash.
>>336703294
prove me wrong anon
>>336699217
>ffx
>mgs2
>god tier
christ the delusion is real
I give my PS2 a hug every morning
>>336703535
>requires player input to progres
>has fail states and a win condition
>is not a video
Q.E.D it isn't a movie, it's a videogame
>>336699217
Development time increased. You can't just make a game in a year and a half anymore without a huge workforce.
=less games
=need more funds
=less firms that can handle development costs
=centralization
=casualization, because the games we do put out need to appeal to as many as possible to get as much money as we can back.
>>336701374
>BG:DA
>Mediocre at best
>>336703723
>Q.E.D
do not do that, nobody is impressed
>>336703535
Not him but
>can only be used with a games console
>story only progresses with interaction via control pad
>costs over 30 bux
Keep the meme alive though if you want bro, no one gives a shit what you think anyway.
>>336703532
Still, it has the fucked up faces
>>336699217
You have a few good games there.
FF X
Jak
MGS2
DMC
GTA
SH2
We immediately cross GTA out because we got one already. FF is releasing soon and will probably be better than 10 was. Ratchet and Clank just came out, which has always been superior to Jak. We got a MGS. We got a DMC. The only thing I see there is Silent Hill 2, which no surprise we aren't getting that since that company is self destructing. You know what isn't in that image? A fucking street fighter. Oh btw, BloodBorne.
>>336704148
Yeah, Tidus looks freaky, but the originals weren't exactly what i'd call beauty models either.
>>336703976
>can only be used with a games console
What the fuck does this even mean? "If you can only play a game on a console it's not a real game?"
Jesus, you le master race fucktards get dumber every day.
>>336704261
Re-read his post
>>336704261
nice reading comprehension you fucking idiot
>>336699217
Bloodborne is better than all of those games though 2bh.
>>336704261
>Being this retarded
You can't fully comprehend your own plight, can you?
>>336704261
Kek, my pc can barely run undertale m8
>>336701896
Stop defacing the original image with your garbo opinions.
>>336699907
So is that why games today are released criminally unfinished to the point of being unplayable, but companies still have the balls to slap a sixty dollar price Tag on the box, and charge you for day one dlc while you wait for a patch that let's you play the game?
>>336705147
Your image is worse.
>>336705147
Your image is far worse
>>336705147
It's you who needs to stop defacing that image.
>>336701896
that's actually much better than '05-'10 for sure
>>336702896
MMMMMM I LOVE EATING SHIT GIVE ME MORE GENERIC HALF HOUR LONG 2D PLATFORMER!
>>336705209
Franchise loyalty. I'm assuming you're referring to sfv?
>>336703087
>multiplats, ports, and literally who shit
Woah...so this...is the power...of Dreamcast...
>>336705997
try harder next time
>>336706076
Try posting some games next time. If only it actually had any
>>336702553
go back to your console war threads, this is supposed to be about vidya in general
>>336702556
You take that back, nigger
>using an outdated piggy cuckcade comic for your opinions
rough start sure but it quickly became one of the best consoles of all time, certainly the best of its generation
>OP posts games that are still being widely discussed 15 years later, barring one or two
>meanwhile kids ITT post lists of games that were/will be forgotten two months after release
smdh
>>336706192
Shoddy b8 tbqh, dc had some amazing games, only people who were born after 2000 think otherwise.
>>336706192
except it did have games and i already posted them
>yfw Ace Combat 7 soon
>>336706476
>what matters is that other people TALK about the games, not how much you ENJOY them
>>336705486
>>336705147
>Demon's Souls
>2010
>>336705486
oh god that image is cancer
>>336706582
>yfw its PS4 exclusive and Ace Combat threads will be ruined by platformwarriors like they were when AC6 came out
Nah but really it's fucking well worth it
>>336706534
Ports, multiplats, and literally who shit aren't games.
>>336706730
Europe m8. It was published by Atlus, after all.
>>336706732
Post yours then.
>>336706796
except they are games dumbass
>>336699217
dark alliance is god tier? I have a copy and have never played it for lack of a ps2.
>>336706930
its a good game but it definitely isnt "god tier"
>>336706897
Well then I guess the PS4 is the best console of all time.
>>336706853
Catherine came out in 2012 in Europe. 2011 in Japan and NA.
>>336702480
>Until Dawn
stopped there
>>336699217
Knowing the PS4 will never reach PS2 levels of sales makes me sleep at night.
>>336707352
you tried
>>336706582
It's gonna be good hopefully. I'd literally cum buckets if we have high atmosphere missions like in electrosphere.
>>336707380
I started importing Atlus games around then iirc
>>336707585
you do realize the only reason why the ps2 sold a retarded amount was because it was a dvd player, right?
>>336707585
It's still outpacing it, anon.
Never say never.
>>336707604
Yes, and you tried to show the Dreamcast has games, and failed.
>>336707871
i think you need to look up the definition of what a game is
>>336701374
shit taste. Didn't even read through your post, really makes me sick that people with taste like you exist in this world.
>>336707998
I do know what a game is, which is why I also know the Dreamcast has none. Literally the PS4 of its day, except it couldn't sell.
>>336708262
0/10
>what happened to video games? their used to be way more good games.
4 years is normal development time today. It was very common to for a game to be done in a year on PS2. GTA3/VC/SA are like a year or 2 apart, while GTAIV to GTAV took 5 years. FF9 to FF10 was 2 years while XV was announced back in 06.
Also midtier experimental games are gone like DMC which was a happy accident that cameout of Resident Evil. and Konami rather make Phone games.
>>336708262
blue stinger is a game
>>336708193
>I get so upset by other people having different taste in vidya to me that it makes me feel sick
Seek help
>>336701374
>FFX
>Worst Mainline FF
>When II exists
>>336708470
Literally who?
>>336708784
>modern
That's the keyword, anon.
>>336706632
Do you have autism? It isn't simply that people talk about the games. It's that they're still fondly remembered and have earned themselves near-legendary status. They're games that people will look back on for the rest of their lives and not just "fun game that quickly faded into obscurity."
>>336708825
google is your friend
>>336708850
XIII is worse too.
>>336707003
Thanks anon I was about to try and find a ps2 to play it.
>>336701896
you look like a guy with nice taste
>>336708998
It's not, actually. That's a common mistake though, so don't worry.
>>336708884
>what matters is that OTHER PEOPLE ENJOY THOSE GAMES, it is NOT how much YOU enjoyed them
>>336699217
Posting multi-plats is fine, OP.
But don't list multi-plats for one system and not the other.
>>336706582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G1ob5jnuSo
>>336709501
Okay, you do have autism. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Yup, always wondered why I had more ps1/ps2 games than ps3 and ps4 combined.
>>336709980
>still not getting it
>>336699217
>what happened to video games?
Just look at the Uncharted 4 reviews (what they say, not the scores). What are they all talking about?
>Emotion
>Story
>Story!
>Emotion
>Story
There is your answer OP.Fun is dead.
There is a small amont of great exclusives on PS4 because they know sonyggers that cant afoord a decent PC will eat it all up regardless and even shill for free on /v/
